How to Tie a slip BOBBER for Crappie! EASY!

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Slip Bobber Fishing for Crappie!
In this tutorial I show how to tie and easy slip bobber rig for fishing multiple species including crappie, bass, bluegill, catfish, and walleye. I walk you through the steps from choosing the tackle to tying on the slip, bobber, and jig. I then take you to the lake to show you how to fish this type of slip bobber setup.
Hope you enjoy the video!
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@johnvanyosr8896 6 жыл бұрын

I'm 52 yrs. old & my DAD taught me this knot, but he called it a BARRLE KNOT.

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

+John Vanyo Sr, I can see why he called it that,, it does look like a barrel. This knot is actually the single improved-clinch knot. There is a double improved-clinch knot where instead of taking the single tag end of the line through the hook, you double it over and tie the same knot. Not really sure if it is stronger. Thanks for watching!

@johnvanyosr8896 6 жыл бұрын

I'm Pa.,where r u @'

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

Wisconsin

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

Wisconsin

@rickrazz7136 5 жыл бұрын

The barrel (or Blood) knot is used to the two lines together. Real useful after a line break to get back fishing quick.

@gregnuttall3637 2 жыл бұрын

I'm 62 yrs old, and I learned how to do this just now. Had no earthly idea, thanks Bud.

@jameslow5536 Жыл бұрын

59 and just started using slip bobber for fishing the deeper water where I live... that plastic tube was a mystery to me so I never bought them just used some of the wife's yarn lol

@user-gd1wl8yd5j 2 ай бұрын

One of the most important video I 've ever seen. I'm 74 and I never seen anything like this. Going to town tomorrow and get rigged out. Thanks for the video !!!!!!

@rethinkingfatherhood4401 2 жыл бұрын

This young man just showed us how to tie a crappie rig, do it cheaply, - and to top it off - he catches fish. NICE JOB Davis.

@mp5kfisher241 2 жыл бұрын

My dad used rubber bands as a stop on slip corks, it worked but you needed to keep the rubber band and line wet when you slipped it up or down.

@plevahockey3465 2 жыл бұрын

That’s a cool bobber type.

@joshuajohnson7183 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for showing exactly what to do! I haven’t found a channel yet that is this educational. Thank you!!

@josephbara8651 4 жыл бұрын

Better to use a swivel to attach a leader with jig. Round swivel won't get stuck in bobber stem. The jig will. Also if you use a lighter test for the leader, when snagged and have to break off the leader line will break and you won't lose your bobber and have to rerig the whole setup.

@nicholashersey167 5 жыл бұрын

I've been tying that improved clench knot for years. Your technique for tying that knot was great! Makes the whole process much faster.

@FloppingCrappie 5 жыл бұрын

It's a solid knot. You could also try a loop knot as well. Thanks for watching!

@bigfish2eatamericanangler740 Жыл бұрын

5 years later, here I am watching your video, Davis. Thank you for the nice tutorial that actually shows it works. I don't have a boat; I can't afford one BUT I appreciate that you catch some good fish I am salivating right now. Scale, gut, make a few slits on both sides and smother them with turmeric powder and sugar and deep fry them. Oolala! Now I'm going to watch your latest video to see how you look and sound like fast forward 5 years. 😊 Happy fishing from Warren, Pennsylvania, Davis!

@accessableangling 5 жыл бұрын

I need to say this again as I prepare for the fishing season.... This is THE BEST video I have seen on tying slip bobbers!!!!! Thanks again Davis!!!!

@FloppingCrappie 5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@AsleepAtTheReel 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I have never used this type of float. I normally drop straight down now that I have Livescope, but I can see the advantage of this. thanks for sharing.

@wheinz574 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip! I'll be converting from clip on bobbers, to slipons.

@boliver1155 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you fou all my crappie fishing lessons! When i cant go fishing i watch your videos!!!!!

@FloppingCrappie 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@isee4126 5 жыл бұрын

Love how helpful you are. Im new to fishing so i find your video extremely helpful. Im always trying to get new information.

@FloppingCrappie 5 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching!

@RobertSilva-lc3yf 3 жыл бұрын

Just found your channel. This video is absolutely the best ive seen on correct way of tying on a slip boober. No music , very cleat voice , wonderfull. Im a new subscriber now.

@slipknot73745 4 жыл бұрын

I've tied thousands of improved clinches and your method blows my mind. No more fumbling, trying to thread the eyelet loop and getting my finger stuck on the improved loop. Thanks man!

@slipknot73745 3 жыл бұрын

Azbycxdwevfugthsirjqkplomn McPinth Simplicity? Why?

@chriswenkel2432 4 жыл бұрын

I'm in Louisiana and we start catching em on the bank around February. Thx for video

@rodss1570 5 жыл бұрын

Wow...259 dislikes by idiots commenting on his vid telling him how to do 'better' what he just showed us how to do. All of these "experts" giving him advice and thumbs down probably couldn't catch fish if their lives depended on it. By the way, good video brother 👊 I enjoyed it and appreciate the time and effort you took to try and teach others a skill you have learned.

@FloppingCrappie 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support!

@angelasheppard7197 5 жыл бұрын

Goin back through and hitting my older videos. Got to view them for reminder for the season coming up. Thanks for sharing

@FloppingCrappie 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks,Much appreciated! Good luck this season. Let know how you do!

@williamsmardo1240 5 жыл бұрын

Nice video, plain and simple. I could actually see what you were doing. Good job!

@FloppingCrappie 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@veronicayoung1105 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining the rigging in great detail. You’re a great teacher. Thanks

@tbl8560 4 жыл бұрын

Recommendation - use a smaller pencil bobber to minimize the tension the fish feels when it get's on the jig and easier for you to see bobber movement.

@cocosli803 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video FC, I needed that info on the slip bobber setup nice job explaining the use of and how 2 work it very positive thank u very much James H.👍

@FloppingCrappie 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to help

@susanshafer9696 2 жыл бұрын

I used to bobber-fish for Northern with my Dad. We used the round bobbers held on by wire loops and turn the wire to the side so the bobber would slip but I could never figure out how to use those thru-the-bobber type. Back then, 1960's, we didn't have pre-tied knots we tied on tiny rubber bands. It worked. Now I know this way, thanks so much 60 yo Daddy's little girl,

@Dmon1972 4 жыл бұрын

I have finally found some sound and simple crappie tips. Everyone wants to do complicated tricks. This is so simple.

@rosalynanokye6879 4 жыл бұрын

Toni Braxton

@keithwilliams6305 4 жыл бұрын

Mv;ț

@sapreaper 3 жыл бұрын

I like the way this guy talks etc. Not like the other nitwits. I caught my first 2 crappie ever last night. At 44. No bobber etc as I was in a river, but I will watch you teach anything regarding fishing. Thanks!

@tyclark8162 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips guy. I'll be fishing at night ASAP, from a yak pa14. The jungles didn't kill me, so maybe the lakes will. Appreciate your time, I can only hope I catch some like you had so easily done so here. Later Ty

@joannanasset2375 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video - good info on the slip bobber technique

@chas4725 3 жыл бұрын

Good crappie rig. Everybody wants to add their own little variation. Good stuff !

@jrdefield7481 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video! I did not know how to use those slip bobbers mainly because I always cast and retreive or straight line jig over the side. That is just a really great effective way to get suspended fish. FYI: when I was a kid fishing back in the 60's they would have a knot diagram on all types of product packaging called the "fisherman's knot." It was the "clinch knot" which is now "improved." It always said to make 7 winds around the main line. I still do it. Putting the tag end thru that last loop is the "improvement." Appreciate the time you took sharing a great technique!

@FloppingCrappie 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching, i'm glad I could help explain the slip bobber. I still see the knot diagram on some hook packages, but not all companies do that anymore. I wish they would because it does help quite a few fisherman out.

@mulespur4806 5 жыл бұрын

Cut the tag ends of that stopper knot leave about 1/4" at each side and it will not get tangled "I'm just saying"

@dmund222 4 жыл бұрын

long tag ends will not wind correctly on the reel, and will not feed well through the eyes of the rod. Try trimming then after pulling the knot tight.

@mikekrause8263 3 жыл бұрын

@@dmund222 i always cut my to about a half inch and the most important part is to melt the tag ends quickly with a lighter to melt the nylon. They will frey apart in 5 casts otherwise...

@jarod5179 3 жыл бұрын

I leave a 1/4” just incase I need to tighten the stop

@christopherbennett4559 6 жыл бұрын

Great video thanks real easy to follow and very informative!!!!!

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

Train Bennett Thanks For watching!

@dolbanoutdoors156 6 жыл бұрын

I've been looking for a really clear and close-up video for this and you showed me exactly what I needed.Thank you! I can't wait to go crappie fishing in Ontario now!!

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

Dolban Outdoors thanks! Hope you catch big slabs!

@MzAliH21 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! Have many of these bobbers, just didn't know how to use them. Gonna give it a try! 👍🏼👍🏼 ##new subbie##

@stevebrewer1720 Жыл бұрын

Excellent teaching on the slip bobber setup!

@phildlight 4 жыл бұрын

Super helpful. I'm new to crappie fishing so this helps! You can tie the improved clinch super fast with forceps. Make a loop with the line like normal, but insert the forceps through the loop. Turn the forceps 4-6 times to create the wraps and then grab the tag end with the forceps and pull it through. Then just insert tag through upper loop. Takes 2 seconds to tie it with forceps when you get the hang of it.

@FloppingCrappie 4 жыл бұрын

I'll have to try forceps way next time. Thanks for the tip!

@bryanhayes9728 Жыл бұрын

Will definitely try this - sounds like a time saver!

@JazzyJSlots 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for class. Very informative!👍

@TheMrRudemeister 4 жыл бұрын

New sub!!! Thanks for the advise and love the details!!!!

@csmith80 4 жыл бұрын

Good stuff man! Helpful

@agnescurrie697 6 жыл бұрын

Subscibed from Idaho, l love crappie fishing here there's no limit. The crappie you are catching are big, enjoy watching, thanks.

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@3poundCrappiefishing 6 жыл бұрын

Agnes Currie Check out 3 pound crappie fishing. Awesome crappie content with drone footage.

@subreniajohnson4509 5 жыл бұрын

i wish my state had no limit!

@stevengonzalez4957 Жыл бұрын

I have a tip that might be beneficial. One of the best lessons I had learned with crappie fishing (especially using jigs) is using jig heads that are made of light wire. The commercial jig heads (RR and such) use heavy wire. If one is fishing for crappie in brush, light wire jigs are absolutely the best. If the jig gets snagged, you can gently pull the jig loose, without disturbing the crappie gang hanging out down there. Light wire will bend and come unsnagged exponentially easier, resulting in fewer lost jigs, while minimizing the disturbance of the brush pile one is on. Look for some independent jig makers in Texas for those with light wire jigs. I hope this helps, because it worked for me!

@Dark30Outdoors 5 жыл бұрын

You caught some nice big crappie on that slip rig. Well done!!

@FloppingCrappie 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@GmanfromTexas 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the instruction on this bobber. Great video

@FloppingCrappie 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to help

@ldwithrow08 6 жыл бұрын

I have found the fused braided lines work every bit as well as monofilament in a spinning rig. And the knots hold better and are easier to tie. I haven't used mono in years. It doesn't tend to spin off the reel in a tangle either.

@donaldnaymon3270 3 жыл бұрын

Great info. Thank you for sharing.

@bryanhouse3644 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Im 51 years old, and I am just learning how to tie this awesome knot. Thank you.

@FloppingCrappie 4 жыл бұрын

you're welcome, thanks for watching!

@bryanhayes9728 Жыл бұрын

Hi Bryan - check out your name and mine! And now 2 yrs later, I am 51 and learning how to do this! Maybe it’s a glitch in the matrix or something. All the best to you!

@SoCalWatcher 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making this informational video

@jcstevensva 6 жыл бұрын

Really nice. To the point and well done.

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

Jim Stevens thanks and thanks for watching!

@richardharris5279 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this helpful info.

@maryg7585 4 жыл бұрын

New friend here, love that knot, surely did land some nice crappie!! We will definitely be watching your vids😄

@FloppingCrappie 4 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@MRUHY 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Been wondering how to rig this up.

@FloppingCrappie 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to help

@sirronbailey3109 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video appreciate all your expertise.

@FloppingCrappie 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@thecrappiehurtlocker2605 6 жыл бұрын

Excellent information as always

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, appreciate it!

@3poundCrappiefishing 6 жыл бұрын

The Crappie Hurt Locker Check out 3 pound crappie fishing. Awesome crappie content with drone footage.

@blocktube111 6 жыл бұрын

Nice video, I just started slip bobbing. Thanks for sharing

@3poundCrappiefishing 6 жыл бұрын

The Big Crappie Guy Check out 3 pound crappie fishing. Awesome crappie content with drone footage.

@kennethgarrison521 6 жыл бұрын

Good job. It was understandable, and I now know how to use a slip bobber. Was wondering why you had to redo the rig and why you emphasized using artificials and not having to go get bait when at 12:00 minute you clearly have a live minnow.

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

Kenneth Garrison my bobber stop was slipping so i re-tied a new stop on the line. And the 12:00 minute mark was not a minnow, that a really small crappie that fell off the hook. I can see how you though it was a minnow though. I didn't have any live bait in the boat with me when I filmed this, but I have used minnows on this type of rig. It's just cheaper to use plastics since live bait is sometimes hard to keep for days.

@jamesleslie7007 6 жыл бұрын

One should also put a bead on behind the bobber to protect your knot.

@roy1m664 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!!

@robsimpson6537 6 жыл бұрын

I use that knot for sharks and tarpon down in the keys 👍👍🌴🍻 great tutorial btw! Scribed!

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

+Rob Simpson, Thanks for watching!

@badluk1 3 жыл бұрын

Great video!! Good job bro!!

@thegreatfishingadventure2594 6 жыл бұрын

Subscribed from Northern VA ! I'm looking for some Potomac River Monsters soon!

@3poundCrappiefishing 6 жыл бұрын

The Great Fishing Adventure Check out 3 pound crappie fishing. Awesome crappie content with drone footage.

@jasonballew1915 2 жыл бұрын

Man.i can remember when I was a kid.my dad use to take a piece of fishing line & tie it in knots above his bobber & slide it up & down.i never really payed much attention to it.bug I guess it was the old-school way of making a slip cork.i like this better.but he used to catch em

@scottnra 6 жыл бұрын

Nice job dude!

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

Scott Gregg thanks!

@boricuasoy411 6 жыл бұрын

Great job bro. Fantastic tip, I can definitely appreciate your efforts making this video. I'm looking forward to using this tip. :)

@3poundCrappiefishing 6 жыл бұрын

Carlos Barroso Bass Freak Check out 3 pound crappie fishing. Awesome crappie content with drone footage.

@randynordstrom8032 5 жыл бұрын

I like this video he's very helpful

@Gypsyboy932 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent tutorial. New subscriber.

@FloppingCrappie 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for subscribing!

@dogpaws9980 4 жыл бұрын

Well explained!!!

@BBBYpsi 6 жыл бұрын

In Australia they call it a blood knot. I have also been told by my father it is a fishermans knot. It is the knot I always use.

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

It's the first knot my dad taught me as well. Thanks for watching!

@QwkDraw 4 жыл бұрын

In Utah they call it the "What" knot!

@scottstafford3550 3 ай бұрын

Very informative thanks. What Crappie pole do you use and recommend? Thanks. Scott

@sumanrana3025 5 жыл бұрын

This clear tips thank you

@FloppingCrappie 5 жыл бұрын

you're welcome

@sowabunga 4 жыл бұрын

Do you need to trim the two tails of the slip bobber to go through the eyelets easier? Thanks for the details!

@edbatsalot23 3 жыл бұрын

sowabunga you should. So that it doesn’t get stuck in the eyelets..

@cktung100 4 жыл бұрын

thank you.good teacher.

@FloppingCrappie 4 жыл бұрын

you're welcome

@joshuacampbell1383 Жыл бұрын

I have been using this set up for 40 years.

@lestenson06 4 жыл бұрын

Should wet it with spit si it doesnt heat up when you tighten it and compromise the strength of the line.

@ARCSTREAMS 4 жыл бұрын

yup my pappy taught me that

@tonyhill3638 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tutorial. I always just drop the jig, and follow it down with my rod tip, but in deep water, this gets a bit tiresome. Having a slip bobber seems the way to go. I seem to remember there was a way to make your own stoppers with braid and a small coffee straw, but I've never tried it. Again, thanks for the video!

@JIMMYLCOLEMAN 4 жыл бұрын

Great Video! Subscribed!

@FloppingCrappie 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

@travisgrover492 2 жыл бұрын

That's some nice speckled perch.

@user-1kjl-22aj 5 жыл бұрын

Wow that was intense lol

@livinglife2535 Жыл бұрын

great tutorial

@dagobertojimenez298 Жыл бұрын

Thank you brother nice video like it

@gapskers2595 Жыл бұрын

Check out Gapen bobbers, they have a hook on device using a simple plastic stopper to create that hole for the line to slip thru. Someone is then able to attach and detach their bobber in certain situations. Works nice, tons of sizes, Gapen.

@831Adventures 2 жыл бұрын

Nice tip bro

@richardvargas2485 6 жыл бұрын

Great video,A lot of information in such a short time

@randyleasure8763 Жыл бұрын

great video.

@jerkbait67 5 жыл бұрын

I thought you did a good job making this video. Those who never used slip bobbers before, can now. It's a cinch knot but I grew up calling it a noose knot. Thanks for the vid.

@FloppingCrappie 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@migcruzmc24 5 жыл бұрын

Had to try

@bossphonetv5702 4 жыл бұрын

that's great fishing time my friend new subscriber nice job

@FloppingCrappie 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@huanyang5295 4 жыл бұрын

Good vid!

@chuysaventuraypezca1301 4 жыл бұрын

Great video

@FloppingCrappie 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ARCSTREAMS 4 жыл бұрын

thank you for the informative detailed explanation,,i would think to avoid getting snagged you need to cut the tag ends of that slip knot shorter,,i would also use a swivel between the float and the jig to act as a stopper and less tangle say about a foot away from the jig but i suppose your method works fine so long at the bobber tube dont get inserted in the jig arbor,,but i prefer to use tooth floss to make my own slip knot,forgot how to do it properly though,,been a while but the fishing and crappie season craze is catching on me lol have not been out there in years

@bobcrappies 6 жыл бұрын

Great video!!!!!

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

Bobcrappies thanks

@tmcmillan45 2 жыл бұрын

Good video but might I add using a swivel between your main line and a leader. I like using small diameter braided line on my spool (hi vis) that's between 8-10 lb test. The line works its way through the slip bobber much quicker than mono, getting to depth faster. Then tie a swivel with a 6lb fluorocarbon leader. I also like to put a slightly larger bead above the swivel so it doesn't jam into the bottom of the slip bobber. Your jig head (or sinkers and Aberdeen hook) gets tied to the 6lb fluorocarbon. Then if you do get snagged and have to break, you only lose your leader. Your slip rig stays in tact. One last thing, I usually like to double or triple tie the yarn slip and cut the tag ends short to ensure it don't have a chance to jam into the bead.

@butchcoplin2316 6 жыл бұрын

I love that set up, but i wish i could use it on my cheapo spin cast reels. That's all i have.

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

ya, the slips (bobber stops) tend to get stuck in the spincast setups. Hopefully you can get a spinning reel setup in order to fish this rig. Thanks for watching!

@pearljameric Жыл бұрын

I feel like a loop knot would be great for this method. Thanks

@jbowman4269 4 жыл бұрын

I always double up my jigs about a foot apart and when the bit gets hot ya catchem 2 at a time

@smett49fl Жыл бұрын

I really liked this video and comments!! 👍

@ex8280 3 жыл бұрын

you don't need the bead, nor the thread stopper. Just tie on a piece of line to your main line with a uni-knot, the stopper should stop there. My only gripe with the slip bobber is when i fish from shore and drag/jig the jig to shore it gets stuck in the bobber hole. I'm sure the slip bobber technique isn't for shore fishermen, but I like that the bobber can be used as a weed guard when fishing in tullies/reeds.

@jpettymd 4 жыл бұрын

Nice man! Do you ever use minnows or crappie nibbles and can this same set up work for either of these scenarios?

@FloppingCrappie 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can use minnow or crappie nibbles with this setup as well. I would recommend an Aberdeen hook and sit shot if you're using minnows

@MichaelDavis-dj7xc 6 жыл бұрын

good job man

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

Michael Davis thanks!

@petunia2uall 4 жыл бұрын

nice job. thanks.

@waldemarreczydlo3830 6 жыл бұрын

My frend, let me suggest a better, more efficient set. When you put the first slip and bobber on the main line, put a larger bead on the line below. (bigger than the bottom hole of the bobber tube). Then install the next slip. You'll probably ask why? Well, when you lose the jig, the bobber will stay on the line. Later, a good quality swivel should be tied to the fishing line and at the very end you will have to tie the jig. This is a very important operation that will protect the main line from twisting.

@FloppingCrappie 6 жыл бұрын

Waldemar Reczydlo thanks for the tip. I'll try it next time.

@waldemarreczydlo3830 6 жыл бұрын

Ok, I highly recommend it

@3waver 5 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see a video of this rig.

@JohnnyRebKy 3 жыл бұрын

My Grandpa used to use a live minnow and tie a sinker about a foot above him. He'd throw it out and let it sink to the bottom and just tear them up. It worked in the 80s and 90s but today I can't get it to work for nothing lol.