How To Trigger Your Bass Drum!

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Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger

Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger

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This is a tutorial /learning video / drum lesson about how to trigger your bass drum. Enjoy!
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Chapter overview:
Introduction: What is a trigger? (1:50)
Chapter 1: What equipment do I need? (2:24)
Chapter 2: How to set up the equipment (4:10)
Chapter 3: Trigger module settings (6:14)
Chapter 4: Common mistakes / trouble shooting (12:24)
Chapter 5: Discussion! (16:53)
My trigger equipment:
My Bass Drum Trigger: www.amazon.com/Roland-RT-30K-...
My Trigger Module: www.amazon.com/Roland-TM-2-Dr...
Cable: www.amazon.com/Ugreen-Premium... (The other cable comes with the trigger.)
Power Strip: www.amazon.com/Outlet-Surge-P...
Mein Trigger Equipment:
Mein Bass Drum Trigger: www.amazon.de/dp/B00V5BO60S/?...
Mein Trigger Modul: www.amazon.de/dp/B016QDWKQQ/?...
Kabel: www.amazon.de/dp/B01DWA9NAC/?... (Das andere Kabel ist bei dem Trigger dabei.)
Steckdosenleiste: www.amazon.de/dp/B000SIVINW/?...
My drumming equipment:
My Drumsticks (US): www.amazon.com/dp/B00C7J42YC/?...
My Drumsticks (Europe): www.thomann.de/de/vic_firth_c...
My Double Bass Drum Pedal (US): www.amazon.com/dp/B001U7RQBS/?...
My Double Bass Drum Pedal (Europe): www.thomann.de/de/pearl_p3002...
"Tutorials" Playlist: • Strange Blast Beat Tec...
My Double Bass Pedal settings: • My Double Bass Pedal S...
Double Bass Technique Tutorial: • Strange Double Bass Fo...
Coordination Exercises Tutorial (Extreme Metal Drumming): • The BEST Coordination ...
Blast Beat Beginner Tutorial: • How To Start Playing B...
Blast Beat Technique Tutorial: • Strange Blast Beat Tec...
Double Stroke Fill In Tutorial: • Insane Double Stroke F...
If you want to see more drum videos and tutorials subscribe to my youtube channel!
If there are any questions feel free to leave a comment!
Also check out my bands!
/ aletrunmetal
/ officialnegator
hearoes.net/de/band.php
Filmed by Micha Béla Gröger ( / bela.fotografie )

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@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
This is a tutorial about how to trigger your bass drum. Enjoy! ► Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger - Drum School: www.wanjanechtangroeger.com/bundles/nds
@kairoberts9209
@kairoberts9209 6 жыл бұрын
Welche Kabel benutzt du ?
@laurdessvalentino5849
@laurdessvalentino5849 6 жыл бұрын
No... This is a long drawn out zzzzzzz
@sticksnfingers
@sticksnfingers 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Wanja for this userful information. I have one question, for you or any kind person willing to share: Is there ANY difference between this kind of triggering and electronic pads regarding input lag/latency (even in miliseconds)? My purpose is as first option use the drum module's MIDI out to my laptop PC running Superior Drummer 3 for triggering those kits. If anyone shows me some light and points that lag/latency is present, I would go to the second option: load custom samples to the module. (PD: I use the laptop PC for other instruments, etc so it's necessary) I'll be attentive to your response. THANK YOU!
@paulaeden5934
@paulaeden5934 3 жыл бұрын
Hi can I ask you a question about triggers please?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulaeden5934 Just ask!
@slayer8273
@slayer8273 7 жыл бұрын
Dude I learned your blast beat technique and now I can reach 210 bpm on a desk with my pen. My classmates think I'm crazy but I think it's just sick
@MATRIX1999ism
@MATRIX1999ism 7 жыл бұрын
Slayer the best comment
@anonymousbrowser4448
@anonymousbrowser4448 7 жыл бұрын
did you learn this from this video ?
@Pedro_ZKS
@Pedro_ZKS 5 жыл бұрын
I am on the same situation
@Luemm3l
@Luemm3l 7 жыл бұрын
19:30 mysterious duck appears in the background
@ericleighton7565
@ericleighton7565 7 жыл бұрын
WHAT THE DUCK??
@MCDuckCZ
@MCDuckCZ 6 жыл бұрын
Did u call me?
@nic4obg
@nic4obg 7 жыл бұрын
I'll share my story. I don't play extreme metal, but rather boring stuff like hard/alternative rock and at most fast-pace heavy metal. I found myself in a situation where all my bandmates from all my bands upgrade their sound and make the music sound better and better and even though my drums are really good, I can't go much further. When I go out on stage it often turns out the sound engineer didn't really get the drum sound right more of then than they do. As a result I migrated to a full electronic drum set with just the bass drum being an acoustic one (doesn't move on stage and it's a 24" and it has to look good after all) and I have that triggered to the module too. It made a world of difference - no feedback issues on stage and we can balance the sound and hear everything exactly how we want it to be, I have perfect and consistent sounds every time and we sound great. On cheating - there's no cheating in music. After all we're all musicians and even if you press buttons on a drum machine once in a while and just sit there, as long as it's for the sake of music I'll never judge.
@jorge_u.
@jorge_u. 7 жыл бұрын
Nick Alexandrov what's your band name ?
@SOFRA799
@SOFRA799 7 жыл бұрын
Also waiting for the band name, wanna hear some alt rock stuff
@jorge_u.
@jorge_u. 7 жыл бұрын
Nick Alexandrov wut
@nic4obg
@nic4obg 7 жыл бұрын
The band's called Nash'te Hora. On youtube we got only 1 video up from April last year. It's a Bulgarian band - our songs are mostly in Bulgarian, but if you wanna hear 2 english songs - they start at the 25 min mark. If you were looking for an electronic drum set video demo, you're out of luck sorry. When you have to share a drumset with another band most drummers tend to insist they bring their own ac. set.
@nic4obg
@nic4obg 7 жыл бұрын
/ZFuxBa0WKl0 - let me make it easy
@PERRECTUMpl
@PERRECTUMpl 7 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial. Agreed on every aspect of what you said. I can add some more info from drummer / sound engineer perspective. Triggering kick drum @ live performance is almost standard this times in metal music. Lets face it - you don't need any dynamics on your kick drum in death or black metal (and many other genres) - its almost binary 0 or 1 in this matter. When you hit - it has to be consistent in volume and clearly audbile with nice SNAP attack. Try to get good snappy, clear, consitent kick drum sound with kick mic on small stage in club, where bass player has his 6x10 cab cranked up, which makes bass drum shell resonate. Of course you can use fast gate, compression and envelope filter, but believe me - this will work until you start to play fast double kick, when gate never closes, its one big muddy HUM of bass frequency, no attack, no snap, your kick drum simply disappear in whole mix. Side chaining kick with bass guitar doesn't help at all. If you use trigger - there is no problem at all (using it on bass drum). Not to mention you dont have to worry about bass drum tuning. In studio you have plenty of time, silent room, great audio gear etc. You can dial very good kick sound using mic and sub-mic mixed together. What about volume consistency in fast double kick parts? Well in such enviorment you can compress signal really hard without side effects (opposite to live performance) and it solves that problem. It is common to replace kick drum track with premade samples after recording anyway, just to get best sound that fits good in the mix. People (who have little knowledge) consider triggering is cheating because they're confusing it with MIDI output from drum module and quantizing hits to actual tempo map (in DAW after recording or in real time via drum module with tempo map and quantize option). You don't even need drum module to do that in those days in realtime. In such situation (quantizing hits to grid) it is cheating and everyone will agree on that.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the additional info! Actually I never thought about the problems of compression on stage before - good point!
@FrankPCarpi
@FrankPCarpi 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger for taking the time to thoroughly teach us with so great a detailed, and step by step set of instructions. You are very generous to do this. I would like to make a donation to you to assist you in delivering future episodes of drumming exercises. Please shoot me a link to a way to send a little something.
@gp19
@gp19 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always on point Wanja! In the sound comparison section, the difference is even more extreme when you add distorted guitars and bass lines. Untriggered bass drums practically disappear.
@VikasGotla
@VikasGotla 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. You're a great drummer and your tutorials are just as good.
@littlebear2477
@littlebear2477 5 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for making this video I’ve been researching everywhere and this is the first time someone has broken it all down and informs what you need!!
@littlebear2477
@littlebear2477 5 жыл бұрын
Hey wanja do you need an amp to run the cable out of the module??
@octavarium2457
@octavarium2457 7 жыл бұрын
could you do a tutorial how to tune the bass drum for metal? please
@Joaovictoracordi
@Joaovictoracordi 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, great musician! Congratulations for the job, Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger! Another fan from Brazil!
@morbidblast4469
@morbidblast4469 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you my bro !!! Your videos are awesome 😉
@trolltopro
@trolltopro Жыл бұрын
This is really helpful! I just started learning drum triggers and this video tells you everything about it
@VanAnon51
@VanAnon51 6 жыл бұрын
This has been such an awesome, instructional video. Thank you.
@Metalbirdrummer
@Metalbirdrummer 7 жыл бұрын
First, thank you so much, I also have the roland TM-2 module and since I am a really lazy person I didn't read the manual (so I tried to adjust the threeshold by changing the sensitivity) so thank you again, because now i know how to install and use the triggers properly! And second, I think triggers are useful, they can improve your sound a lot in a live situation (using them alone or even in a mix with the bass drum), and can be used in a studio to create a gate to control bleed during a recording (Glen Fricker's great idea!).
@MatijaBuhMetaliero
@MatijaBuhMetaliero 6 жыл бұрын
very good explanation. first I thought it is gonna be boring but than some really valuable informations came out. thanks! it helps setting up my e-drum
@TheFinalGamerRN
@TheFinalGamerRN 7 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video! Thanks!!
@JaBridgewater13
@JaBridgewater13 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and explaining how triggers work. I'm new to it and trying to figure out how to set it up on my kick. I have several piezos to attach but don't know how to get a good loud sound from it. I'm always learning about how things work and getting better as a drummer. Thank you. God bless you all
@codcade
@codcade 6 жыл бұрын
Saying a trigger is cheating is like saying an overdrive pedal on a guitar is cheating
@ConeTheBoss559
@ConeTheBoss559 5 жыл бұрын
Not even close. Drumming is much more physicall and the extent you can do with triggers to make you basically not need to drum is insane. You can set it so when you hit the drum once it doubles the sound so 1 hit makes 2 hits, or you can make the sound increase hard enough that you can just tickle the bass drum and it will produce a good sound, no need for technique, my little sister could play that.
@ConeTheBoss559
@ConeTheBoss559 4 жыл бұрын
@@jensloetzsch I meant more in terms of physical strength than technical ability
@ConeTheBoss559
@ConeTheBoss559 4 жыл бұрын
@@jensloetzsch I was a bit more ignorant when I made th comment, but sometimes people do use the triggers to that extent, otherwise I don't think they're a bad thing, especially if it's a good sound, you don't have to tune ypur bass drum pretty much
@ChristianSandviknes
@ChristianSandviknes 4 жыл бұрын
@@ConeTheBoss559 I currently have a trigger setup that I use on my bass drum, for the exact reasoning you just mentioned. I substitute strength with triggers since I have Multiple Sclerosis. Doesn't affect my arms nearly as much as my legs, so on my good days I don't need it, but when my strength fails me, and I'd still like to play the drums - I definitely use triggers to avoid the requirement of strength.
@ConeTheBoss559
@ConeTheBoss559 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianSandviknes wholly different when you physically can't do something, compared to just being too lazy to do it, you have an issue you can't affect, and I admire that you still drum in spite of it!!
@STgauss3268
@STgauss3268 6 жыл бұрын
good job man, you always clear my drumming doubts
@jeansimard6944
@jeansimard6944 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tips wanja. I get the "same/your" sound from trigger bass drum. keep videos coming please.
@stainpain77
@stainpain77 7 жыл бұрын
SOLID ANSWER! I be used the guitar comparison many times
@terrytk9398
@terrytk9398 2 жыл бұрын
Very thorough. Well done sir!
@Arczery
@Arczery 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks!
@joshmilligan8398
@joshmilligan8398 6 жыл бұрын
Ordered one for live performances with my band after seeing this, Thankyou!
@drumsmarcello
@drumsmarcello 7 жыл бұрын
Great tutorials man ! Cheers
@MrJoDrumz2011
@MrJoDrumz2011 7 жыл бұрын
thank you, Wanja, for your explanation..it is very enlightening...since the early '90s I use triggers ...and i don't think it is cheating..it actually a valuable aid for drummers.
@valevire9752
@valevire9752 7 жыл бұрын
such a good video! thanks!
@targaryenXoolf
@targaryenXoolf 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you Wanja. Subscribed.
@jefferydarnell9396
@jefferydarnell9396 6 жыл бұрын
Very well explained🤘🏻🤘🏻as soon as I can afford all that I'll use this video to set it up
@JulianaNovo
@JulianaNovo 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, about using triggers, I use Roland module and trigger on bass drums in order to play with my band. Thanks for the explanation! And what a cute accent!!
@rdfdrummer
@rdfdrummer 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Wanja! 🤜🤛
@guerreroluz5939
@guerreroluz5939 7 жыл бұрын
I have never used triggers, but watching your video I see that it can be useful for recording or in a live performance. Thanks for the video. Greetings from Mexico! \m/
@xyvxyethe5584
@xyvxyethe5584 Жыл бұрын
I don't consider drum triggering(especially for bass drums) cheating. it only makes drumming easier(that's what technologies are made for) plus, we ain't l living in the past(80's) anymore. keep up or fall behind. This is a good education video and thanks.
@ISparkRodoxI
@ISparkRodoxI 6 жыл бұрын
I really did not know how to use a trigger, but thanks to this video I came up with several ideas for Latin percussions. Thanks for the information, greetings from Chile. (I used google translator) like & sub.
@Loki_FPV666
@Loki_FPV666 3 жыл бұрын
From an engineers stand point it’s nice to use both a mic on the kick and a trigger. You can blend the two sounds together and get even cooler kick sound with the depth of the acoustic kick and the attack of the trigger.
@JaBridgewater13
@JaBridgewater13 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about trying to use both trigger and a microphone I bought. I'm new to this so I'm trying to get a good loud sound and figure out how to hookup the audio to whatever speaker, module, mixer I need to. I've been buying all of that here and there as money I can spare for it. Always in need of advice from anyone kind enough to share with me. Thankful always. Blessed.
@MrowaTube
@MrowaTube 5 жыл бұрын
I was totally lame in this subject but this video brings it closer to me. Definitely subscribing the channel. I would compare triggers to camera lens that sharpens the image (in this case the Hits), not cheating for sure.
@austinoperator3527
@austinoperator3527 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@slamovgod
@slamovgod 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought a TM-2 with the RT-30K. I need triggers because I have a light foot and always have had a light foot. I was born with cerebral palsy and whilst it doesn’t affect my whole body severely it affects my legs pretty bad. I have little to no ankle motion in them and I’m having to play flat footed at first but I’m getting the hang off letting my feet just kinda do their own thing. I can’t wait to try them out and use this video as a guide! Thanks brother it’s appreciated!
@vibrationalkeys3320
@vibrationalkeys3320 3 жыл бұрын
*how's things going?*
@slamovgod
@slamovgod 3 жыл бұрын
@@vibrationalkeys3320 it’s going well! After awhile with them I’ve become used to the feel and have been doing rather well! There’s a few videos of me playing but the kick is slightly inaudible.
@vibrationalkeys3320
@vibrationalkeys3320 3 жыл бұрын
@@slamovgod *nice!* *take care there :)*
@vibrationalkeys3320
@vibrationalkeys3320 3 жыл бұрын
*what all songs/albums you been listening to lately?* *feel free to recommend anything!* *cheers*
@theblackpacomurder
@theblackpacomurder 7 жыл бұрын
this tutorial is so good and i am not a drummer but i enjoy watching this
@Lucas_Williamson_Drums
@Lucas_Williamson_Drums 7 жыл бұрын
handy video! Thanks dude
@TENACER
@TENACER 7 жыл бұрын
Bravo.! detailed explanation, your playing superb also.. Question: the Roland RT-30HR & K(triggers)can be used with Ddrum modules as DD1 ?? thx.. metal 'til death \m/
@Januszz81
@Januszz81 7 жыл бұрын
very helpfull. thank you. cheers.:-)
@MaxLutsenko
@MaxLutsenko 7 жыл бұрын
Wanja, greetings from Russia! I use Roland TD-3 Mudule with Roland RT-10K Trigger and this is perfect for me :) I do not think the use of triggers is cheating - you has correctly told in this video. Good luck and stay loud \m/
@arkaos3744
@arkaos3744 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool video...i LOOOOOVE your playing style...i use trigger in my death metal style of playing...you Rock...greatings from Italy
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ronytomano
@ronytomano 2 жыл бұрын
Does loosening the bass drum Help double triggering?
@alexlvn2691
@alexlvn2691 4 жыл бұрын
Hello I have a problem with my RT30K and my TM2 module ... despite the tightening of my kick drum its padding, I have no sound when I hit gently (a little but not when I hit really light ...) I have yet set 35 senses and 0 theshold ... it's normal ? otherwise what should i do? thank
@abisheks2418
@abisheks2418 7 жыл бұрын
completely agree with everything you said
@roc2x
@roc2x 7 жыл бұрын
Hi can you share bass drum sample i like your trigger sound. I am using Roland TM2? Great Tutorial here..
@sticksnfingers
@sticksnfingers 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Wanja for this userful information. I have one question, for you or any kind person willing to share: Is there ANY difference between this kind of triggering and electronic pads regarding input lag/latency (even in miliseconds)? My purpose is as first option use the drum module's MIDI out to my laptop PC running Superior Drummer 3 for triggering those kits. If anyone shows me some light and points that lag/latency is present, I would go to the second option: load custom samples to the module. (PD: I use the laptop PC for other instruments, etc so it's necessary) I'll be attentive to your response. THANK YOU!
@DamDrum
@DamDrum 7 жыл бұрын
C'est quel genre de jack des 6,3 ou 5,3 ?
@demonocusmetalocus3558
@demonocusmetalocus3558 7 жыл бұрын
I also use the rt30 trigger on my bass drum ,they are great triggers.
@arterock4909
@arterock4909 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!!
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@letterbase3492
@letterbase3492 5 жыл бұрын
Can i use roland trigger with the dtx module ? Answer please i need help.
@dougstewart2815
@dougstewart2815 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video
@TheAntinazi4444
@TheAntinazi4444 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, maybe someone can help me. I have the Roland td 25 Module and a Yamaha dtx 50 trigger for my bassdrum. I have the sensitivity all the way up and the curve set to loud, but there is still volume dynamics. This leads to normal hits sounding very loud and softer hits sounding standard loud. How can I achieve that it actually sounds the same? It's very important due to my heel toe technique, where the second hit always is a bit weaker than the first one
@ElijahMendiola
@ElijahMendiola 3 жыл бұрын
I have this setup but when I put my headphones on it’s very low and has crap sound? What’s the problem?
@federicoravaglia4991
@federicoravaglia4991 7 ай бұрын
great video man! only one question: how can i set up velocity to maximum for every hit? thanks man!!
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 ай бұрын
Usually it works by turning sensitivity up to maximum and if you can choose different volume urves you should go for the loudest.
@riverdragon_1
@riverdragon_1 3 жыл бұрын
thank you ❤️
@apocalosandjroz
@apocalosandjroz 28 күн бұрын
exelente video saludos desde mexico
@MrLevent79
@MrLevent79 7 жыл бұрын
Hey man. Another great video. Wanted to ask. How this compares to Steven Slate 2 Trigger and I am not sure if you are familiar with that but all I care is live setting and want to get a nice kick sound
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
I am not familiar with that but I am not a great fan of using software too much. PCs can cause many troubles live and I think a trigger + drum module is far more reliable. Also it looks like it is more an application for studio and I am not sure if it would work live.
@Mustis1524
@Mustis1524 7 жыл бұрын
You should check out the "Pedaltrigger" triggers that you attach directly onto the pedal, similar to the Axis e-kit system. They have a version for the Demon Drive double pedal. If it works as well as I hope, it could remove all triggering problems and should make for a very short setup time, seeing as it isn't at all dependent on the bass drum.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I will check them out!
@showeinsteiger
@showeinsteiger 7 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@ahandrums7503
@ahandrums7503 7 жыл бұрын
Do you use the focusrite 2gen Interface? :) I own the Roland TM-2 too, still trying to adjust the basedrumsound more into direction "real"...There are so many Settings to choose. Anyway, think this is a really good tool. Keep up with your great videos.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
I think it is not 2nd but first gen but I am not sure. If you want a "real" sound you can try recording your own bass drum and use it as a sample for the module.
@mauricioespinozagonzalez3681
@mauricioespinozagonzalez3681 7 жыл бұрын
excelente!! saludos desde chile!!
@tylerstorer6240
@tylerstorer6240 7 жыл бұрын
you are a fantastic young man bud...love your channel!
@anumberninelarge1391
@anumberninelarge1391 7 жыл бұрын
this is so ASMRish. I love it.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe I should start an ASMR channel and get 100 times more clicks! :D
@anumberninelarge1391
@anumberninelarge1391 7 жыл бұрын
That would be great! I'd fall asleep to you videos every night.
@prakashsen6978
@prakashsen6978 7 жыл бұрын
tnx
@redlightclinicdrummer
@redlightclinicdrummer Жыл бұрын
You don’t need a module for the on trigger right? The guy I emailed said I didn’t so now I’m confused He said I could plug them into my interface throw on headphones and hear them
@TheLeviathan13
@TheLeviathan13 3 ай бұрын
Servus Wanja, tolles Video, danke für die ausführliche Beschreibung und deinen optimalen Einstellungen! Ich hätte da noch eine Frage. Meinst du es ist ratsam den RT-30K für Heel-Toe zu verwenden? Ich habe da einige Probleme mit cleanem Triggerting der hits....
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 3 ай бұрын
Ich würde in dem Fall empfehlen, zwei Bassdrums zu verwenden und immer genügend Spannung und Dämpfung. Dann sollte es ohne Probleme gehen. Auf einer Bassdrum sicher auch nicht unmöglich, aber schwieriger. Footblaster oder OnTrigger könnten da eine gute Alternative sein.
@TheLeviathan13
@TheLeviathan13 3 ай бұрын
Vielen Dank für die ausführliche Antwort!!! Meinst du es würde mit Laiser Trigger besser/ wahrscheinlicher mit einer basedrum funktionieren ?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLeviathan13 Mit Laser Triggern sollte es kein Problem sein, mit einer Bassdrum zu spielen. Je nachdem von welchen Laser Triggern genau du sprichst, kann es aber in sehr seltenen Fällen Probleme mit Licht auf der Bühne geben, wenn z.B. Sonnenlicht auf die Bühne scheint oder ein Strobo hintern den Drums steht.
@TENACER
@TENACER 7 жыл бұрын
Bravo.! detailed explanation, your playing superb also.. Please A Question: the Roland RT-30HR & K(triggers)can be used with Ddrum modules as DD1 ?? thx.. metal 'til death \m/
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
I haven't owned a Ddrum module yet so I don't know - ask the Ddrum or Roland customer support ;)
@TENACER
@TENACER 7 жыл бұрын
ok thx, i'll do it ;)
@deadforever8810
@deadforever8810 7 жыл бұрын
That beat you were playing in the beggining sounds really familiar to me...is it from a song or just something you came up with for the video?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
The clip where I am playing is taken from another video from my channel - I was just jamming and thought it would sound kick ass to play some sort of marching rhythm with the double bass while blasting. gene Hoglan also does this a lot!
@noblych9953
@noblych9953 7 жыл бұрын
Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger can you send the link to the video pls?
@auriculus3058
@auriculus3058 7 жыл бұрын
Nice ^^
@Seedthedrummer
@Seedthedrummer 8 ай бұрын
Playing with triggers is definitely not cheating, you still have to practice balance and playing accurately with precision.
@martinleithe8251
@martinleithe8251 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video !. Learning alot :) I want to setup Trigger on my own set. But I don't have any mix panel. It's a cheap simple drum kit, Mostly for playing casually.. The goal is to play Black/death metal on the kit :D
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
I think you could plug in the trigger module into an active speaker without needing a mix panel.
@mattvdh
@mattvdh 7 жыл бұрын
7:25, not sure if you're aware of this, but Roland has a firmware update for the module that allows it to recognize the rt-30k
@trufisp1
@trufisp1 6 жыл бұрын
good job .....
@robertsuitto3492
@robertsuitto3492 3 жыл бұрын
Can this TM-2 be sent into a Mackie Mixing board, for more tweaking of Low/Mid/High and then into Mackie Thump 15's ? Do i still need a DY box still ?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 3 жыл бұрын
Better ask Roland support about that :D But you can use custom samples with the module so there should be no need for additional EQ. Output is normal jack cable so you need a DI box when you want to have balanced xlr. For recording it is enough to just plug it into my interface without DI.
@hendoggystyle
@hendoggystyle 3 жыл бұрын
When playing live, how should I go about adjusting my output volume? I feel like I have a good mix in the rehearsal room, but when we played our last show, the SE told us to turn down the trigger volume. Thanks!!
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 3 жыл бұрын
WTF? :D Normally the SE can turn up or down the volume of the trigger as he/she sees fit. That's what a mixing desk is for. So as long as the signal from your drum module is not clipping, the rest is usually up to the SE.
@muuriciodegollada3870
@muuriciodegollada3870 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you .we'll explained
@jordiphen
@jordiphen 7 жыл бұрын
can we use snare and bass trigger with Roland TM2
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
Since it has two trigger inputs - yes!
@lilquentint2447
@lilquentint2447 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Wanja :) ich versuche mich gerade etwas mit dem TM-2 anzufreunden, das klappt auch schon recht gut, habe keine Probleme mit false triggering und dergleichen. Aber was ist nun, wenn ich mein 7 Piece drum komplett triggern möchte? Brauche ich ein neues Modul oder gibt es da die Möglichkeit für ein Upgrade per externem Gerät?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 4 жыл бұрын
Nicht dass ich wüsste - da brauchst du wahrscheinlich einfach ein größeres Modul.
@fabianmachado7413
@fabianmachado7413 5 жыл бұрын
what about the tension on the kick?? thanks
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 5 жыл бұрын
I think it doesn't matter too much as long as it is properly muffled.
@xisotopex
@xisotopex 7 жыл бұрын
what is the lag, or latency, from the time the trigger sends the signal to the trigger module, and from the module to the pa
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
There is a setting where I can delay the signal a bit but when I have it on zero I don't notice any delay. It also depends on the sample I use - it is important that the peak is right at the beginning of the bass drum sample.
@DonBoscodrummer
@DonBoscodrummer 7 жыл бұрын
brother wanja......can u tell me how to get the best drum sounds in drum which is been bought and used freshly.....is it by using mixer or by tuning???????
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
Definetly both! A good mix can save a lot but it doesn't replace a good tuning ;)
@stuartnulty7237
@stuartnulty7237 5 жыл бұрын
A good thing to note is that the TM2 is terrible for using DDRUM triggers on, they worked fine with my TD-4 module, but with the TM-2, even with the sensitivity maxed and threshold at 0, you cant get a reliable trigger sound. Unless you have really shallow bass drum hoops and can squash the foam completely onto the bass drum head.. you show up to a show with a clown who uses sound dampening rings on the front of the bass drum and you're cooked.
@allantoledo4426
@allantoledo4426 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Nechtan, I've bought the tm2 module from Roland and the ddrum drt trigger for Bass drum. Do you know If is It compatible ? And about the setup, which name of the trigger i must choose? Thanks a Lot. Tears from Brazil
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 4 жыл бұрын
It should work! Just try the name of any kick trigger and see how well it works or not.
@allantoledo4426
@allantoledo4426 4 жыл бұрын
@@wanjanechtangroeger thanks ! Im great fan of yours! Continuing doing this amazing job.
@legoset
@legoset 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome tutorial man! Great video! To bad some guy started playing drums in the background haha. I think you missed a reason why triggers are needed in death metal, and that is because guitar players and bass players need to hear the bass drum clearly during blast beats, otherwise they will get lost, especially in high tempos, where you can't really hear the bass drum.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
Good point! I think this is even more important for people using single foot blasts at high tempos.
@MetalReviewist
@MetalReviewist 7 жыл бұрын
So, with triggers though. Do you have to have them plugged into a speaker system so that others can hear?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
During band rehearsals or when playing live the drum module is plugged into the PA.
@maninderassi
@maninderassi 7 жыл бұрын
Are these Roland RT 30 triggers compatible with Roland TD 30 module?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
Yes - I think everything from Roland will work well with each other.
@rodrigog5654
@rodrigog5654 7 жыл бұрын
I don't even play drums but this is interesting
@JoKKats
@JoKKats 5 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend Wanja..i know that my respond is a bit old but now I'm dealing with this problem..can I use a bass drum trigger directly to my drum module or do I have definitely to use a trigger module as you do??thank you..keep going..
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 5 жыл бұрын
I think "drum module" and "trigger module" are the same thing.
@JoKKats
@JoKKats 5 жыл бұрын
@@wanjanechtangroeger maybe i got confused because you use the Roland tm2 and plugging it in the td3 module..i'll try to plug directly to the module..thanks for answering..greets from Greece..
@mattvdh
@mattvdh 6 жыл бұрын
the threshold seems a bit high for me, personally I put mine at about 18. If I was using a trick laser trigger, I'd have the threshold on as low of a setting as possible without sacrificing the feel for the slower parts.
@farizazmi1680
@farizazmi1680 7 жыл бұрын
hi wanja, just wanna ask u on how do i save my own preferred kick drum sound and also is there any websites that i could download it from?..need help on this as i hv difficulties on picking my own kick sound...and yeah, i play drums for a death metal band... :)
@farizazmi1680
@farizazmi1680 7 жыл бұрын
ohhh yaaa...by the way, i use exactly the same trigger head and drum module as yours + axis classic longboard pedals.
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
I don' know if there is a website for that - I used the stock sounds on my module for a while and later put the bass drum sound from the last Negator album on my module. You can also record one strong bass drum hit and then EQ it until it sounds good and then cut it in a way that the main attack is really at the beginning of the sample. I think the TM-2 needs the sample to have certain specifications (like sample rate etc) - check out the manual for that. So you export your selfmade sample with the required specs and then put it on a SD card wich you put into your module and it sould work.
@farizazmi1680
@farizazmi1680 7 жыл бұрын
hmmmm...i guess i have to give it a try 1st on what u hv just suggested!...anyway, thank u wanja!...u are such an inspiration for me to play drums!!!!! :)
@FerretPercussion
@FerretPercussion 6 жыл бұрын
I notice you add in a bit of a swivel to your bass drum moeller strokes, is it something you think about?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 6 жыл бұрын
I don't do it on purpose. And it only happens at the beginning of a double bass roll and when I do short groups of notes. When I play for several bars my feet don't swivel around - I think it is more my feet trying to get into the movement and finding the right position.
@FerretPercussion
@FerretPercussion 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty much what you're doing then is dropping the leg (relaxing) to get a note and rebound, and then pointing the ball of the foot (tensing) to get the in between notes? When you're working on speed with this technique, what things do you think about in your technique to keep rebound going? Where do you avoid putting pressure with muscles, and where do you intend to put it? Thanks for taking the time to reply, been trying to nail this technique all weekend.
@itz_vortex7341
@itz_vortex7341 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Wanja, can I put use a a midi cable coming from this into my interface and use ezdrummer sounds?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 2 жыл бұрын
That depends on the module you use. Just take a look at the manual ;)
@itz_vortex7341
@itz_vortex7341 2 жыл бұрын
@@wanjanechtangroeger oh I mean the roland tm2
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 2 жыл бұрын
@@itz_vortex7341 --> manual (I haven't used midi yet, so I would have to google it myself :D )
@itz_vortex7341
@itz_vortex7341 2 жыл бұрын
@@wanjanechtangroeger well thanks alot for replying man I love your content.
@kushking420
@kushking420 3 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend any triggers with mesh bass drum heads
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 3 жыл бұрын
I think there is not that big a difference to normal drumheads. Right now I am using OnTriggers and in that case the drumhead does not matter at all.
@kushking420
@kushking420 3 жыл бұрын
@@wanjanechtangroeger Thank you, and i really enjoyed your video
@chickenillness1319
@chickenillness1319 7 жыл бұрын
Is a trigger necessary for personnal rehearsal?
@wretched67
@wretched67 5 жыл бұрын
chicken illness no
@notforyoutube
@notforyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
Do you by chance have any cupcake recipes?
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 2 жыл бұрын
No, I pretty much hate cooking and baking :D
@joaquinperezperez2037
@joaquinperezperez2037 7 жыл бұрын
size your bass drum?Thanks!
@wanjanechtangroeger
@wanjanechtangroeger 7 жыл бұрын
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