Appreciate the comment. Thanks

Happy to help!

Any time :)

I should look into this to get motivated to make some new videos. Perhaps in a few months.

Glad it helped!!!

Awesome man. Happy t o help

Right on man. Happy to help

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks buddy. I'll try and make a video for that kindof stuff soon.

Sweet man. It's a good setup

Thanks for watching

That is awesome to hear!!. If these videos even help a few people with problems it makes it worth while. I spent a ton of time sorting that out years ago on my DM5 when there was no info online. I just kept reading the manual and trying to troubleshoot :P

What does genera of music have anything to do with why it would be better? Sure the SPDSX does more stuff, but I'm not paying 5X the price for a headphone knob. Sure it has a faster processor, but I have never had any lag issues with the TM-2. I can upload my own samples to the TM-2 as well. I only use one kick sample as well. If you needed more pads to do song intros and things like that the SPDSX might be a better choice as that is the only limiting factor on the TM-2 is the inputs/pads. Just turn the gain to plus 2 on the TM2 and that fixes the low output. also check my videos and I have one of the $60 mixer I bought. I run my inears in that and can adjust my kick volume without messing with the FOH volume.

Probably ripped it himself, maybe fom the beginning of Linchpin

I'd check the settings because a digital signal is a digital signal. What to trick recomened?

It's in the TM-2 manual. You have to change the head and rim samples separately. . You can change the sensitivity, threshold, sample, etc of each one individually.

No idea. I'd just use the same one and tweak the settings to where they work well. Choosing the "trigger type" is more just a template or starting point and you still need to tweak it. I'd just adjust the gain/sensitivity, threshold, and other settings to where it works well

hmm. I have never had that happen. Do you have the AA batteries installed in the unit? I have the double A's in mine and use the power cable while I play. I think that might make a difference for keeping the settings in it.

Happy to help!

You need to change the rim sample for the second input.. one is the main, the other is the rim when you are using a splitter.

Yes you can use the KD10

Its not the loudest interface. You ca pan or leave stereo. I didnt try a full pan.

You're welcome!

It depends i guess. For ease, Id use one trigger in each port, unless you have a way to split them into 1 plug. (TM-2 can support 2 stereo cables). So with one left and one right you should be good. do you want to trigger both sounds at the same time? or 2 different spots. If it's two spots it will be tricky and you will really have to play with sensitivity and threshold. It's the same rules. low sensitivity and high threshold to prevent false triggers.

Thanks for watching and commenting dude.

@@beyondbetrayal Your kick sample is crushing. Any way you would share it? thehumantragedyofficial@gmail.com

Thanks for watching

You bet. A guitar amps won't have as much volume or low end as a PA system but it would work. Judy be careful yo not blow the speaker. A trigger has to be pretty loud to compete with drums and guitar, but I have used an amp before. Thanks for watching.

@@beyondbetrayal Thank you brother, I have to save for a monitor, better, I guess. Thank you, and you are an amazing drummer!!

@@carloszepeda9132 Appreciate it. A monitor is your best bet but the amp will make due.

Just set the rim sound to nothing, or set the rim sound to the same sample as the snare. You could also adjust the individual settings or use a mono cable. lots of options.

It should be fine, If it is too loose add another pillow/blanket inside. Is the pedal bouncing back and tapping the drum? are you resting the beater? is it too sensitive? there are multiple things that can cause a double trigger

@@beyondbetrayal sorry meant to say axis pedals

@@beyondbetrayal I apologize for the bad grammar it is because I am using voice text. What I meant to say was that since I muffled up the drumhead and tightened it I haven't tried it out so I will be trying that out as soon as I come home from work. And then I will definitely let you know how everything worked out.

@@plumasoscuras687 Sounds good. Good luck. I used to get doubles if i rested my left pedal. There are 2 types. one where the beater actually hits the head twice, one would be a sensitivity, threshold, muffling issue.

I'm not even sure what I used here. If you look around online there are tons of kick sample packs. Give me a few days and i'll see if I can make a new video and post a link of where I have it if I can dig it up. Either that or I should start a patron account and start charging for my samples I make haha.

Thank you for the reply. Ive been looking for a long time for a round kick sound that isnt too artificial sounding with a hint of high click for definition...been using round attack #37 on the dm5 forever ...came across yours,n said thats EXACTLY what im lookin for. but if its too much of a pain,dont worry about it. Ill figure something out eventually.....thanx again

the kick doesn't trigger when you hit the snare? that is odd. most of the time you get a double trigger. are you using a snare trigger? if so it could be the crosstalk setting too high.

I’m only triggering my kick. somehow the problem stopped by itself but thanks for replying

@@bleizkimbrough4180 Awesome news bro. have a good weekend

You have 2 different sounds setup for each input? each one is stereo so that allows for 4 triggers total. I bet the second set of the stereo input is set to a different sound. You may have a stereo cable too.... easiest thing, if you are just triggering the kick, is to change both sounds on input 1, or both on input 2 to the exact same settings and you should be good to go.. I used to have a cowbell sound happen while I played lol

@@beyondbetrayal Thanks. I have pd8 Roland pad that I use for rim/ head =2 sounds and my rt30k trigger for bass. The bass dr had some cowbell while I played. The cords are good from Roland.

@@saeedkobiakov8351 haha sounds like me when I had the cowbell going too. so you understand the 2 sounds then, basically on the kick trigger change both sounds to the same. somehow it's triggering both L/R channels at the same time.

You need to adjust the head and rim separately. It is in the TM-2 manual. You can set the sensitivity, threshold, sample, of each one individually.

@grantcoffman2698 tough to say it's been so long. There are plenty of kick samples to download all over online though

If you are not getting double triggers it could be the cable or the fact that you have a snare sample on the second channel (each trigger has a Right and Left channel.. set both to the same kick sample.. I used to have a cowbell when I played mine and when i set them both to kick it fixed it... option 2, lower sensitivity if you don't need it.

I'd imagine they are close. Jealous of your module haha.

Roland 1000%

@@beyondbetrayal Great video! I am going to buy a drum module to trigger basically my kick drum for double bass drumming . Can you describe why TM2 is better than alesis dm5 . Thank you!

@@0utsiderBG You can put your own GOOD SOUNDING samples on an SD card, any wave file, and 100's of em. It is more reliable, it triggers better and is more accurate, shal I go on? hahaha it's better in literally every way. I loved my DM5, but had I known how much better this was I would have bought it the day it came out to be honest. with an RT30K it is perfect.

@@beyondbetrayal Thank you brother! I just purchased the TM 2 ! Cheers!

@@0utsiderBG Right on dude! enjoy

Make sure the kick drum has blankets etc to stop extra vibrations. Make sure the snare isn't right over the trigger, even slightly offest, .like 1 or 2 oclock might help you. if you put it on the side one pedal will get picked up more..... Make sure you are hitting the kick drum hard enough you don't need to crank the sensitivity to a million. It is a bit of a balancing act, If the snare is setting it off you need to either stop those viberations from setting off the trigger, (moving trigger, stuffing drum with blankets, tighten head etc.) lower sensitivity, or increase threshold.... I find sometimes going to far on one (threshold/sensitivity) effects the other too... You should have to crank both or its counter intuitive. If the sensitivity is too high, things are going to register past the threshold level... so I set sensitivity first, then slowly increase threshold if needed.

@beyondbetrayal this is awesome, appreciate you taking the time to write this, super helpful! I'll give it all a try and see what we can make happen, thanks!

I can't heel toe at all in shoes, but I learnt it in socks. I can do slide doubles much better in shoes. Different shoes change the feel 100%. The nice thing about socks is it is consistent, I actualy ripped for a while bare foot and didn't mind it either. I do have more power wearing shoes though. Do what feels right for you. I find in socks I have to dial my spring tension back and tune the batter head tighter. I get the rebound from the head more that way and don't have to work as hard for it without the added weight of the shoes.

It was the shoes hehe

@@barad-dur9236 Easy fix :)

beyondbetrayal ..PLEASE TELL ME SIR..."which drum module do you think is better..Roland or the Alesis dm5"??.cause I notice you have 2 separate videos on them..thanks for your time

@@unleash-hell6666 Roland TM-2 all day every day. DM5 is super old and can't use custom samples.

I have the rt-30 trigger option on mine and i cant spot the difference between the two

Firmware update via SDHC card.

yes you can. you can even select different samples for both if you wanted to get a splitter for different pads. You could attach 4 triggers this way.

Thanks for info

Yes. You can trigger an edrum set with a piano. You can trigger sounds on a computer with pads etc.

2 inputs as no two triggers are the same. you can also raise the retrig a bit with 2 separate triggers and eliminate double triggers better. rt-30 or pad. I forget. I don't think it made all that much difference to be honest. Threshold was the biggest difference maker on the ekits.

beyondbetrayal Thank you for replying. Your videos are eye openers!

Any time man. Thanks for watching :)

beyondbetrayal One more question if you don’t mind. What Fear Factory album kick sample is your sample modeled after?

To be honest I have no idea. One of my guitar players did it. They are the guys that record our CD's

You might need to update your firmware.

estoy en la misma, compa. voy a probar con esto www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/tm-2/updates_drivers/

I leave it on 100% of the time. I bring my drums to gigs in a case, and leave the trigger on. During a change over I don't have time to be dialing in my trigger settings.

@@beyondbetrayal hey thank you for replying to my question I really appreciate that I think I will probably be doing that from now on I usually take it off after every rehearsal because I know the triggers very sensitive. And also to I will try out a new trigger that I got I also tuned up a little tighter my bass drum head to about 78 hopefully that's okay cuz it feels kind of tight and I muffled it a little bit more so hopefully that helps fingers crossed thank you for all your help I hope I can ask you some more questions and that's okay. It is hard to find a lot of drummers who are willing to help you out with the settings for extreme metal

@@beyondbetrayal also a lot of the drum shops i go to don't know a lot about trigger settings especially for the genre of music. I had to basically learn everything from KZfaq tutorials

Never seen that. You should try and remove the memory card and see if it still does it.

I had that happening with mine. It was a RAM issue and needed replaced. It was under warranty and didn't cost anything.

Fully agree. A firmware update could fix that easy too. Even a basic one. Don't see it happening though

@@beyondbetrayal Should we cancel Roland? (just kidding!)

any time

Just a tiny little Behringer. Basically, II run the TM-2 in mono. So one of the outputs goes to the front of house. The other to the mixer. I run my headphones from the mixer. That way I can adjust my ear volume without messing up the sound at the front of house because the knob controls both. Also you can get a monitor mix into the mixer and have independent control over the kick and the IEM mix. With the XLR input I could run an overhead or something If I wanted also but it's mostly just to adjust the kick volume.

No problem man. Feel free to sub. I am going to try and make more vids soon

I have a Pearl MCX with all Sabian Cymbals.

There has been minimal releases from roland. They dont need it

Pearl MCX

Just a regular 1/4 inch cable

No i don't use that. retrig cancel for time between hits, sensitivity/gain and threshold are the main ones

I use 4 1/4 cables that splice into 2 cables, then the 2 go into both inputs on the tm-2 (one each for my toms, and 2 for my double bass,, u can program 4 drums into the 2 inputs, then the out goes into my behringer ucm, which has 8 inputs 3 of which are my snare mic and 2 overheads, then all that goes into my PC for full kit recording

@@dckaelin so your behringer is like your interface? since i have a roland spd, i dont really need another module...so wouldnt it be better to have an 8-track interface instead, and use that with a drum plugin?

@@yoyoz333 the behringer is just a pre amp, and I use the USB out from that into the PC using Cakewalk as the daw. I can't really give u an answer beyond describing what works for me. But what u suggest sounds like it would work

Good luck

@@beyondbetrayal it worked thank you

One of my guitar players made it :)

Any chance you could send to me please?🙏🏻 I would greatly appreciate it 😊

I'll check. i think i cranked it as output is low i've heard on a few gigs from sound guys

Did you also have all triggers set to 100?

Did you check mate?

Check out my IEM video setup and I explain that.

The patch cable the came with my Roland trigger, then just any old patch cable to the P.A.

Did you watch the video? I explain this in there near the end.. I am, I just have to adjust a few things on the left pedal to get it perfect. Might have been my fault but I'm going to change the plastic washer that comes with it for a metal one.

No, I did not watch the entire video

Ahh, it's a bit longer than usual. haha

beyondbetrayal ...what drum module is better sir??.."Roland or Alexis dm5"?

I don't but I might make one soon. I have been practicing for the last few years like a mofo and have a bunch of good lesson ideas now.

I made this video long before I had them.

@@beyondbetrayal I suppose it begs the question if you use them now with your AL-2's or if you use the ddrums. I saw you also pulled the trigger on getting that ACD driveshaft, I have definitely considered this because there is a bit of play in the UDS I got secondhand with my axis pedals but the cost of getting from Austria is a deterrent. ALSO I happy your vids are available again, I had looked for the a couple weeks ago and your channel was empty.

@@1234LED Oh ya, it was very temporary. I need to make a few new videos soon. Right now I'm using my Roland trigger. I had to make some adjustments to the axis triggers but I haven't had time to fully set them up. I may do that this week. I changed the placement and added a metal washer to the sides to prevent any slipping. the ACD shaft is rock solid and amazing. The shipping/cost to come to Canada was crazy but I had my UDS mess up at a show and ruin my day so I was pretty bitter and went for it. I had to switch my master/slave pedals as the keyed rod that the shaft connects to didn't line up nice. That's probibly why axis went with a round shaft. I'm going to tune up my kit and re-setup my pedals this week an think of a good video concept.

Just a patch cable. Could to drs i guess

The trigger samples I use are not stock. You can look around for bass drum samples all over the internet, format them correctly (this is important) and put them on an SD card. You kick drum will sound like whatever you want. The type of drums or cymbals I play doesn't have anything to do with it.

@@beyondbetrayal OK friend. I will do this and thank you very much for having answered and helped me. Cheers

@@MutilatorOfficial You too have a good day. google bass drum sample pack, or trigger samples. there are tons out there.

Haha, i'll push for even MORE energy in the next one... lol

If you have the RT-30K, AND you have it set to Head and RIM, AND you are using a stereo cable, it will use the rim sensor to stop triggers from other drums. I have actually never used it, but it is a good way to maybe lower your threshold a touch and still avoid double triggers. Same as the other settings, too high and you will start to miss your quieter hits.

beyondbetrayal ah ok thanks, that's what I thought. My problem I've noticed is that when I play the snare really loud, it will miss one of my hits. So what I think is happening is the. Lose cancel activates because the snare hit is loud, and it then cuts out the trigger hit I did at the same time. I'm going to turn it off and raise my threshold. Thanks as always

Ya, that is weird. Is your snare triggered? That could be possible, or you may just not be hearing the trigger? I don't use that setting and have never experienced that. Let me know what you find out

beyondbetrayal ok that was the problem. With noise cancel and a nice amount of muffling, I was able to set the threshold super low, all the way to 1, and the snare wouldn't trip the trigger. However, when playing heel toe stuff, it would cancel a couple hits when I hit the snare. I think playing the noise "trips" the noise cancel, and tm-2 just cancels whatever is happening at the time, that's my guess. So I turned it off, and set a real threshold and everything is good now. Tl;dr don't use the noise cancel features when playing heel toe, I think it's finicky and can even cancel out some hits when you hit the snare.

Awesome... Each setting effects each other too but work slightly different. I could see maybe using a SLIGHT bit of noise cancel if your snare is actually setting it off, but sensitivity and threshold seem to curb that usually. Thanks for the update.

:) I can't steal that from Samus hahah.