How to Upgrade the Extruder Drive Gear on Ender 5 Plus for Improved Extrusion & Print Reliability

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Callum Coles

Callum Coles

Күн бұрын

In this video, I show you how you can upgrade the extruder drive gear on your Ender 5 Plus to improve print performance. As mentioned previously in my review video, the stock extruder drive gear lets the printer down...
Let me know if you have any questions and I'll provide additional guidance.
Hopefully, you enjoy the video and decide to make the change, it really is an upgrade worth doing! Especially since there are some really good value extruder drive gears available.
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Here is a link to the dual drive gear extruder: www.amazon.co.uk/3Dman-Extrud...
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00:00 Let's go
00:52 Steps Overview
01:19 You'll Need
02:15 Remove Drive Gear
03:11 Remove Stepper Nut
03:54 Install New Nut
04:15 Prepare for New Drive Gear
04:56 Install New Drive Gear
05:43 Stepper Direction
06:44 E Steps
09:46 That's a wrap
#creality #3dprinting #upgrade

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@chrislatham8166
@chrislatham8166 9 ай бұрын
Hi Callum, useful video and relatively easy to follow for a 3D printing novice. I have one or two issue which require some support if possible. The printer was functioning at 100% before doing the mod and the Extruder Dirve Gear is the same as you recommended. Problem: I don't appear to have any power to the extruder drive motor after swapping pins 1 and 3 over. I also have no idea about the gcode mod and whether this has been successfully implemented, any additional info would be fantastic. If you have a chance to help that would be great as I cannot print at the moment. Cheers!
@doxielain2231
@doxielain2231 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of buying this printer, I want to make crawers to explore the abandoned iron mines around me. Just found you while looking for reviews. I do appreciate the cons first and the nitpicky, subscribed.
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that would be awesome! I hope you share some videos if you do go down that route. You're welcome, cons are the most important thing really, that's the bit no company is going to tell you...
@doxielain2231
@doxielain2231 2 жыл бұрын
@@CallumColes I went for a Rat Rig build, because that is going to be way more fun.
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
Fair play, enjoy! You'll learn a lot I'm sure:)
@homiethreshy5059
@homiethreshy5059 Жыл бұрын
Can i ask?, ur replacing the extruder drive And the stepper motor? Do i need to replace the motor, cant i keep stock one on? Miss the part about drilling) dont wanna ruin warranty) much apprecited if i get a reply.
@HowToSandAFloor
@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie bud, this has made it a bit daunting for me, I bought that dual drive extruder from your last video 😂 don’t want to do it now lol. However, I’m having extrusion problems 🤦🏽‍♂️
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the slow reply, been away! I see you've now had a go at it, so that's great:D
@edwardrobison3684
@edwardrobison3684 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I bought the parts and am planning to do this upgrade this week. Also got some Capricorn tube. How did you swap the stepper motor wires? Did you just pull them out of the male connector and reinsert them. Or did you cut and splice the wires, thanks!
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one, let me know how you get on. To swap the stepper I just pulled out the crimped ends from the connector block. The connector block has little plastic toggles that if carefully lifted allow the cables to slide right out. The toggles can then be pressed back down when the cables are pushed back in. Easy enough, just need to be careful
@AdifrancDesign
@AdifrancDesign 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Callum, thanks for this. Just a question about the Gcode. Do I need to create a text/Gcode with only the M92 command and running through the printer or do I need to copy&paste it in Gcode generated by my slicer (for any of my 3d model)? And if so, where exactly would I need to copy&paste it please?
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
08:40 if you run the as a separate gcode file, you should be all good to go. M92 E415.000 M500 The first command sets the ESteps and the second command saves it, so it should stay as that for future use.
@gazsteel
@gazsteel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great Video Callum. I got the same dual drive extruder you recommend and successfully installed it with the help of your tutorial. I found cutting a small amount of the corner plastic of the extruder with a standley knife allowed me to install it without needing to drill another hole and move the screw across which saved a bit of time. I just have a question about the E-steps. When I did my first test print it appears to be extruding really slowly so I'm not sure the E-steps got updated correctly. Is there a way to verify if the Esteps have successfully been updated on my printer? I used the exact same G-code as you and loaded in onto a SD card and ran it by selecting "print" on the touch screen of my ender 5 plus. It just finishes the print straight away so I assumed it had been updated correctly but how can I verify that it has? Also if I change my nozzle size from a 0.4mm to a 0.6mm do I need to change the E-steps again to a different rate?
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gareth, thanks for the comment, glad you like the video and were able to perform the upgrade! Yes sounds like the 'slice method' might be a time saving improvement, another comment also suggested this. I'll add to the description. In order to verify the E-steps, you can use the menu on the printer to extrude say 100mm of filament and check that that is indeed the amount of filament that goes into the extruder. Alternatively, if you plug the cable in to your printer you can input the commands directly and check to make sure it is working. Some slicers enable you to do this directly, but if not, then you can download a program called Pronterface, it's free. The commands you'll need are: M92 E415.00 (this sets the E steps for the Extruder to 415.00) M503 (this reports the settings, so you'll be able to see that the change above has worked) M500 (this saves the settings, so you then shouldn't need to do it again) You won't need to change E-steps for different nozzle sizes, the e-steps basically tells the printer how many steps of the stepper motor are needed to extrude a set distance of filament, so once this is set, the only time you would need to change it is if you were to change drive gear to something different or if you decided to finely calibrate your e-steps, rather than relying on the manufacturer provided value.
@Happy3dprinting
@Happy3dprinting 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Callum, great video. Just bought my ender 5 plus and bought a dual drive extruder as the factory unit is already starting to cause problems when trying faster print speeds, plus I had to upgrade the Bowden tube to a Capricorn tube as the factory tube had a kink in it hidden in the plastic cable run, easy fix but annoying non the less. I will buy a new stepper motor for the extruder to keep the factory unit intact. The big thing I really didn’t realise was how noisy the stepper motor whine is compared to a silent print (like my ender 3 s1). Motherboard upgrade is my next step but looking for a major upgrade, such as a big tree tech Octopus as long term I want the option for idex or tool swap capabilities. Some real fun ahead :)
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, only just saw this one, been away and then now just catching up! I'll be back with a video this weekend. Yes the tubing on a lot of these printers is pretty awful, I've partnered with another UK manufacturer, so going to launch some PTFE tubing under 3DTomorrow too. I'm not sure whether the board on the Ender 5 has replaceable stepper drivers, if it does then changing those would sort out the stepper whine. I never really review noise, as have so many printers whirring away I cant compare them lol... IDEX would be great! Keep me posted:D
@Happy3dprinting
@Happy3dprinting 2 жыл бұрын
@@CallumColes unfortunately the stepper drivers are not replaceable as seems to be the norm with stock boards, so the choice is stick with Creality and upgrade to the “silent’ version of the 8 bit ender 5 plus mainboard or upgrade to a third party mainboard such as one from the bigtreetech stable of boards but due to compatibility issues you have to swap out the screen aswell. But this is something I will need to do for an IDEX conversion, so I am still considering going for the BTT octopus v1.1 which gives a lot of flexibility down the line for not only for IDEX or tool changers, or even something like the enraged rabbit carrot feeder. The ender 5 plus sounds like a drunk one man band crashing about compared to the ender 3 S1 which is so quiet. What made you decide on developing your own PTFE tube? Have you had issues with Capricorn or similar ? Would be interested in better ptfe tubing connectors, the Creality ones are terrible and so has every third party connector I have tried so far.
@sylvander4972
@sylvander4972 2 жыл бұрын
Finaly got my ender =) time to follow your steps and swap the extruder :D
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one! Let me know how you get on. Without a doubt the best change you can do, big printers need a decent extrusion force
@sylvander4972
@sylvander4972 2 жыл бұрын
@@CallumColes it is warping in one corner. Tried two times. I never had warping with my other printers. Do you have any good tip? :)
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
@@sylvander4972 if it’s just one corner, check there’s not any oil/dirt in that corner? The ultrabase benefits from slightly hotter temperatures I find. Around 60C for PLA. I actually have a full video on bed adhesion🙌🏼
@sylvander4972
@sylvander4972 2 жыл бұрын
@@CallumColes nice! I will check it out
@sylvander4972
@sylvander4972 2 жыл бұрын
@@CallumColes what do you clean the bed with?
@SR-gt350
@SR-gt350 Жыл бұрын
I was able to use a small screw and puller to take the press fit gear off the stepper motor shaft. It came off very easily without destroying it. What side is the 1st and the 3rd connector?
@CallumColes
@CallumColes Жыл бұрын
Nice one, good to hear you were able to get it off in tact, machining tolerances vary significantly on cheaper builds so it is entirely possible for some of these press fits to be loose enough to prise apart. In terms of the 1st and 3rd connector, do you mean on the stepper wire? If you are struggling to get the polarity correct, you can use the trial and error method from this tutorial here: reprap.org/wiki/Stepper_wiring#.22pair.22_wires_on_4_wire_motors
@sylvander4972
@sylvander4972 2 жыл бұрын
How did you manage the sensor box to the extruder? It is so narrow so I think its kinda hard for the filament to flow nicely? Did you put some distancers for the small sensor box or what did you do? =)
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
I actually don’t use the sensor, I probably should have mentioned that in the video! I know some people really like them, but the trouble is, when they turn the bed heat off, the print ends up detaching from the bed which makes the pause pointless… So I just leave a piece of filament in the sensor and then go straight from roll to the extruder.
@SR-gt350
@SR-gt350 Жыл бұрын
You can drop the sensor down and hanging off the braket
@HowToSandAFloor
@HowToSandAFloor 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I started stripping off my extruder as a way to save my sanity. 🤬 so I’m installing the dual drive. It’s far easier to shave a few slices off the back of the new extruder than to drill a new hole. Took me 20 seconds even with a blunt blade 😂 cuts really easy
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Many ways to solve the same problem, thanks for sharing your way, hopefully others reading in the comments may consider this too. How are you finding the upgrade?
@coachkd3d
@coachkd3d 2 жыл бұрын
How do you keep the filament from being in a bind when leaving filament reader to drive gear?
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about filament tangles? You can normally spot these before you start a print and then make sure they are removed before starting a print. All3DP has an article on it, I'll add the topic to my video to do list.
@bogdy2p
@bogdy2p 11 ай бұрын
He actully bypassed the filament reader . If you can see closely , there's a piece of string (or filament) in the reader when he mounts the new extruder. You cannot mount this and use the filament reader without repositioning it also .. :)
@gazor_franek211
@gazor_franek211 8 ай бұрын
I'm not having fun trying to run the e-bite update the "usual way" because I don't have an idea what the "usual way" is at this point I'm thinking this is a downgrade more than an upgrade
@beefymiracle1512
@beefymiracle1512 2 жыл бұрын
So is this actually mounted upside down? They way you have it (and the way I did it) all the force of extruding is on the weak brass fitting that is just press fit in the plastic. Yeah it ripped that fitting out. On the other end is a large steel insert that has the tube fitting that is much beefier. Even better is if you mount it the other way up it will clear the mounting screws on the bracket and you won't have to reverse the stepper. The pictures of the bondtech show it directly on top of a hot end so it is pushing the filament out the bottom.
@CallumColes
@CallumColes 2 жыл бұрын
The one ordered in this video is mounted the correct way up, since the bottom does not have any sort of fitting it’s just an open hole. I agree though the push fit brass fitting at the top is a bit lightweight and not the best of designs, this is true of the original Bondtech they copied too. I ended up pulling out the clip and threading a spare PTFE tube connector I had to make it more robust. I had a quick google and have seen another style which has a PTFE tube connector both ends, is this the one you ordered? If so, I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t work the other way up, not a bad shout to avoid changing cables around. Would be interested to know how you get on with this.
@beefymiracle1512
@beefymiracle1512 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the one I got had a tube fitting in both ends. I couldn't seem to find any pictures with this style of drive using a Bowden tube. I'll let you know if it fails working this way but so far so good.
@cammacdonald4217
@cammacdonald4217 2 жыл бұрын
@@beefymiracle1512 wish I saw your comment before, I mounted it like the video and 3 hours into a print it pushed that fitting out, I followed it back and re wired the stepper back to stock and it works perfectly now
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes Жыл бұрын
The extruders are labeled left and right models, which one is for the 5 Plus?
@CallumColes
@CallumColes Жыл бұрын
It shouldn’t make any difference I wouldn’t have thought, left and right models normally just fit nicely back to back
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes Жыл бұрын
@@CallumColes I ordered the left one and it fits right on without any drilling into the plate.I placed the gear on the motor shaft into my vice and knocked the motor shaft throught the gear with a cut off nail and hammer which worked quite well, I also made a keyway on the shaft with a handheld electric belt file, it helps the grub screw on the new gear get a good grip on the flat surface, agter all that I realised I could have swapped extruder motors with one of my Ender 3's motor which already has a keyway and easily removable gear, Oh well! it still works.
@SR-gt350
@SR-gt350 Жыл бұрын
Completely useless tutorial
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