Seriously thank you for this. I was feeling down and you just made me chuckle.

ima dude born male and i have women sized breasts for my age its genetic i want to get one to feel normal

@@crusadertwo239 if your parents will let you, you should get one

@@aster9809 they will but not of 2b2b so I will look for a good Amazon one lol

Oh my god I literally did the exact same thing with my mom the other day! I’m nonbinary and I sidestepped my way out of some really awkward questions by saying, “Oh, yeah, it’s just a *really* good sports bra.” I don’t know if she actually bought it, but it seemed to work. 😅

@@col795 They won’t give them to us who don’t identify as trans. Those who identify as non-binary are excluded ):

@@adoreyou7449 they also allow people who are androgynous to get one. What do u identify if u don’t mind me asking? maybe I can help. :)

Aren’t they 16€ on Amazon or something

@@milomiles4005 never bye a binder from Amazon

@@ReaderAres13 oh ok. I’m actually looking for binders rn can you tell me where I can buy good binders?

love love love love this!!!! So happy for you

How's it going?

yooooo good for you! i wish i could bind my chest rn but im just too scared to come out of the closet

Where did you get yours from??

Like i just replied to another poster. If the seller provides good fitting instructions and has tons of positive feedback then hopefully you be alright. But any sign of discomfort take it off.

Well if you got an underworks binder on amazon then that’s safe, since it’s a trusted company, but if you order one with hooks on it, or some kind of band wrapping around it, then that’s unsafe (a few unsafe brands are jarazin and xuji)

MY FACE EXACTLY 😭

SAMEEEE Its the only place i could find one💀

same-

Just read that to Ray, although for the life of me could not pronounce comforting. Ray smiled and says that's nice.

@@col795 aww🥺🥺

Thank you so much I was going to bc I have homophobic conservative parents that raised me to hate trans ( im secretly trans) again tysm for saving me XD

one of my bfs friends nipplles were ripped off from unsafe binding/srs

That's unhealthy

Same

You poor babies...

*haha tatas go s q u i s h*

i’ve got a proper one now:)

Congrats. Just follow the safety rules.

I’m sadly currently using a amazon binder, but I do have a gc2b ordered so hopefully it’s comes soon :)

Yeah, hopefully it comes in soon because amazon binders hurt.

Caden Dobbs mine luckily isn’t that bad, it’s pretty comfortable but it doesn’t bind very well so I’m exited for the gc2b one

_Husk_ Yeah, my amazon also had clips and it dug into my skin.

How are things with your mum now?

I use two bras and a tank top. I put one bra on backwards. This is my second time ever wearing any type of binder. I love it,I'm nonbinary btw

me too :(

Same, I was killua and my twin, natsuhi was gon and I had 4 tank tops on to cover my chest, my sister is flat so whatever. I am not trans or non binary tho

@@luciafromwiisports37 same (Im also non-binary)

That there, that’s my dream college 😭

Um…why is a college having breast binder fitting sessions?

@@transwomenaremale our LGBTQ+ club hosted the event. They did not touch anyone, they just have you a range of sizes and styles to try on until you found one that fit right and felt good. They then gave them away for free to us

oh wow i remember watching this before i ever started binding now i’m 2 1/2 years binding solid (i am feeling the affects :( but also i’m so much happier now!!) saving for a GD diagnosis now so i’ve come a long way!!

No Zoe. THANK YOU for saying what you said. As you may of seen below Ray's family are having a really bad time today and seeing you post that has given me the first smile that i have had today. So thank you again. Col aka Ray's mum

What in the name of god is a demigirl?

@@transwomenaremale Literally look it up bruh.

IM SO RELIEVED I'VE FOUND SOMEONE TO RELATE TO THIS! [happy-crying emoji]

Congrats. Your post makes me so happy!!

From where you buy this??

@curious little raindrop happy for you!!

@@trishamarik8975 gc2b!

I'M SO HAPPY FOR YOU MY MUM WANTS TO CHECK IN WITH MY DOCTOR FIRST

I’m the same way 😭

Me too, sometimes I want a binder and sometimes I don’t but I think I’ll get a binder one day

Me too mate. Me too. It's good to find my people...

I have both a binder and a corset, and Im very happy when I use either of them on my fem and masc days. I will admit for me it's a little harder to bind because my chest size is kinda beyond that most trans people I see online have (J...) So it's not easy for me to get my chest situated.. However I use the corset because I have a bad back and it's ~amazing~

@@ladymycelia damn, that gives me hope. I'm still 14, gotta wait 4 more years but thanks for sharing!

Hugs. So happy for you. Just keep an eye on the pain. If possible take a day off now and then. But congrats, seriously!!

Are side clamps bad??? I'm kinda worried I'm wearing a side clamp binder rn

Why can’t you just accept the fact that you’re a female?

dont hurt yourself tho!!!!

@curious little raindrop I only wear it for 1-6 hours

HA I DO THAT-

I do that

Spectrum outfitters if your in the UK are having a free giveaway at the moment. Also if you have got a good friend or neigbour that can buy it for you and you give them the money. So it gets sent to their house.

if you still need help i think I can help:)

I hope you and your mum is doing better. Fights are the worst and remember to drink water. ☺️

I’m sorry to hear that, hun. Try to give her some time, but stay true to yourself. You are who you are and that’s great.

Reminder: you’re not a disappointment and you deserve to be happy.

Thank you 🥰

Amazon binders aren't safe

How do you define “queer phobic”?

@miles ღ same-gender relationships? You mean same-sex relationships?

Take it easy at first and stick to the guidelines. Good luck!!

Has it arrived yet and how are you doing wearing it?

Personally I can't afford one but I got my friends old Amazon one it like a lage tho I'm a xs im using sewing pins so it fits me lol

Who you are doesn't matter in regards to wearing a binder. There have been cis people on here wanting advice about binders. Just look after your health as big breast can cause a lot of issues

X2

same, flat chest felt comfortable for some reason

I thought i posted a reply to this? Not showing up. So don't do what Ray did and that is leave it in the bathroom. At the time i didn't know Ray was trans, I thought it was because he was self conscious as he is big chested.

How are things?

@@col795 Well in general things are going alright but imma wait until i know for sure that my mother is supportive

Loving the fact that it sounds like you have got an amazing friend. Feeling sad that your parents are like that. Sending you a virtual mum hug.

Col i met them for the first time a few days ago, I rly never expected them to buy it for me but yesss they’re very loving they’re the best ever

i was extremely nervous too when my friend offered to get me one. at the time i was binding with ace bandages and when i went into a bathroom stall to put that binder on for the first time it felt illegal to breathe but i was so relieved with it :]

Point of pride charity and trans Santa on Instagram may be helpful. Sending you hugs as it hurts that your crying.

It might help to check on second-hand or thrift sites to find one! I got a gc2b binder in my size for less than $10, but it can be difficult finding correct sizes since in my experience binders can get sold VERY quickly. I felt sad about not being able to afford one for a long time, so if you’re lucky with what’s being listed/up for sale right now, it might help! 💖

did you measure tho..

underworks is a good make as well

​@curious little raindrop ​ Why do you feel that you made the wrong choice? There is no set time limit on who you want to be inside. You can take all the time in the world to decide. You can be gender fluid. Clothes and make up have no gender. I have changed my profile picture. So that you can see Ray wearing make up and some fluffy thing round his neck. He's wearing a jacket as i think he may of gotten bollocked by the vice president of his uni's LGBTQIA+ society as he's covering up a 'homemade' t-shirt that says "you're not gender critical your a cunt!" on it!!!!!This is at trans pride event. Have you read about this guy? www.boredpanda.com/confident-man-wears-heels-skirt-markbryan911/?

I thought i posted a reply yesterday but was so sleep deprived forgot to press reply. Anyway really glad that you have found a solution that your happy with. Anyway Ray is coming home later so fingers crossed that's he's able to do so. As he's got to travel 70 miles via public transport. He's had his first covid jab the other week. So i hope he remembers to bring his card incase he gets stopped by the cops. The dogs are going to go ape shite.

ooohohhhhh good luck and let us know how you do with it.

Ahaha

hugs first. www.uber.com/en-GB/blog/the-many-voices-of-pride/ scroll down to Ray's story. What hurts is that Ray felt that he couldn't come out to us. And oh boy did he fuck up his eyebrows!! And they were so nice.

Yea.

It’s a social contagion right now

@@transwomenaremale what?

@@itzmadi0626 Exactly what I wrote.

There's no safe way to sleep in a binder I'm afraid dude. It's the only time your body gets a rest from the binder if your wareing it daily

Love reading posts like this. Just carefully work up to the 8 hr max. And congrats

yayy me too!!!!

@@myjigjawdropped Yay!!

You can use a binder that is a size up for swimming.

@@col795 really? Just like that? I thought it should be a specific fabric so it doesn't get damaged with the salt or the chlorine (depending if you swim in the sea or in a swimming pool).

@@LluviaSelenita I double checked and both gc2b and spectrum outfitters are both suitable for swimming. Just use a size up and only use that binder for swimming. Any concerns check their FAQ first and it you still have concerns just email them. Or ask the question on their social media pages. As that way your more likely to get replies from other users. Maybe even tips on how to take it off after you been swimming etc.

@@col795 awesome. Thanks a lot for your help. I'll follow your advice.

Guessing your in the states? Although you could easily be in the UK. Honestly don't know what to say when someone writes about their parents being transphobic. Apart from given time, you will make friends that are so close that they will become your family. When you get your binder, just don't leave it out if your parents are around.

@@col795 I’m in the USA. I’ve already started to make friends with other trans people from my college and we’ve formed a trans support group. I’m not sure how long I can keep this a secret from my parents. I’ll probably just hide my binder in with my sports bras once I get it. I’m still financially dependent on my parents so I don’t want to make them angry since they are paying for my college education.

@@NatureLover-pj2qe Make sure that each time you use your computer that you clean your history of anything trans related. My fave saying apart from "fuck a duck!" is 'cover your arse!!!' So i don't know how long you have got left at college as the UK is different. But you have got to prepare yourself for a worse case scenario. Hopefully you never have to use it. But the information that you find out could help someone else. So finance aid, healthcare, a room, part time jobs. Any LGBTQIA+ charities that can offer support. A burner phone. If your bank account is anyway linked to your parents then a different bank account. If they are paying for your car, then access to a friend car or know your bus routes(Sorry, i like to read m/m romance books and get ting most of my ideas from them).How to remove oneself from 'the sperm and egg' so that one can get the finance support. Set up a contact tree (is that what you usa lot call it?) Tighten up all your social media. But also keep your head down and concentrate on your studies (i know its hard- with covid and being at home, lack of support and understanding) . Any way what are you studying and hoping to do after college. Or you have no idea yet?

@@col795 Thanks for the advice. I am currently majoring in environmental engineering and when I’m done with college I want to work for an environmental firm to improve air and water quality. I have 3 years left of college since I am pursuing a masters degree.

oh bloody hell seriously? It doesn't. "Binding and Breast Cancer There is no evidence to suggest that chest binding increases the risk of breast cancer. Whether you choose to bind or not, you should always be concerned about the health of your chest tissue. Unless you initiate testosterone therapy or undergo FTM/N chest reconstruction surgery, you maintain the same risk for breast cancer. Even after FTM/N top surgery, you still have a small risk of developing breast cancer. Performing monthly self-chest exams and undergoing recommended mammograms with your physician are the two best ways to detect cancer early. If you have concerns regarding chest tissue health or chest binding, discuss them with your primary care physician." Basically he says you got the same odds before binding, after binding or having them chopped. Which transphobic site did she get that information from?

UPDATE, I got another binder, I was trying my best but my mom was moving the collar of my shirt and then saw my binder, she dug through my room, found all of my binders and tighter sports bras and cut them up

If you do need to buy off Amazon, make sure it's Underworks. They're a safe, reputable brand that offers binders on Amazon. Unfortunately, they're a bit more expensive than some of the other binders on there-- around $30. When people say to stay away from Amazon binders, they mean the cheap ones from weird Chinese companies no one has ever heard of that don't put a priority on safety or comfort the way brands like Underworks or GC2B do.

@@noahahaustin8892 Hi, they could be from the UK. So spectrum outfitters and the europe version of GC2B. But thank you so much for helping.

Love ❤️❤️❤️ comments like yours. Your cousin sounds the best. Hold on to her.

Thoran EH lol yep

Is it good? Lmao

The only brand you should buy on amazon is underworks

i so love reading posts like this. Your friend sounds fantastic

Any update?

So glad. Love getting comments like yourd

@@col795 :)

Hey good luck with it. Hope it fits and at least in the future you know which brands to go for. But please listen to your body and stick to the 8 hr max rule. Take care.

And thank god she bought one for herself 😌✊

Luv your friend. She sounds amazing. I'm so glad that your parents know. As long as you are careful with your binder. And that you do listen to with your body. Hopefully by the time they find out then they should be ok. If your worried at all. Just start researching information and if u have a computer. Just store all your info that you collected and give it to them. Slightly different situation. But when Ray came out, he gave us some links about trans. I didn't look as I didn't feel the need. But his dad did and i think it was either the same day or within a few days. His dad was getting him some binders. I got him some about a year later and that's another story. And oh boy Ray deserved a 'jeffro gibbs' for not listening to his mum.

Have you received it yet?

@@col795 yes ive had it for about 2 weeks now and im very happy

So how's it going?

@@col795 it's gonna have to be a little while longer before I can get it T-T I'ma try and get it ordered in the next few days but after that, it's still gonna be a week or twp

Glad the video helped. Just remember to work up to the 8 hour max limit. And generally follow the safety guidelines in the video.

@@col795 i am! I just took it off. I had it on for 3 hours cause of personal reasons

@@col795 not that it hurt just fear of getting yelled at

@@Kay-mv9un :'( family not supportive then?

@@col795 saddly no.but its alright:) i got supportive friend

How's things? Has it arrived?

@@col795 Things are still the same, and the binder will probably arrive by june 9-14

Love love love this!!! That is so lovely. This has made me teared up.

So how's it going?

Yes :) if you take some days off for eyample at the weekend it should be safe (if it doesn‘t hurt)

Yes a little is okay

As long as it fits ok and you stick to the guidelines on here.

X2

Sending you belated hugs. And how are things since you posted?

Very much doubt it. And i wish that you didn't do it. But if you have to do it. Stick to the 8 hrs max. Any signs of physical discomfort then remove the bra's. Have you thought of sports compression tops or minimiser bra's? Baggy layers and multi tops. A friend of Ray's bought him his first binder when he was in secondary school or was it sixth form???hummm can't remember. Just keep an eye on sales that binder companies do. Does your mum know that your trans/nb/gender fluid? Or is she just worried that it may cause long term damage?

I've told my mom I'm gender fluid but she keeps telling me I was born a girl and always be a girl

@@shadowtory22 :'( I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully she will wake up one day and realize that gender is not that simple and is actually very complex. That in time there will be a lot more scientific evidence to prove it. There is some evidence in regards to brain scans and something else in regards to part of the brain or dna that occurs at conception. And DNA itself is not that simple it's a lot more complex then the XX and XY.Just remember that there are charities out that that can give parents information on being gender fluid etc. If your old enough and when covid is over. Would you consider getting a saturday job and save up the money to buy your binder? But have it delivered to someone you trust. In the future when your older, remember that blood doesn't make a family. Family can be whoever you want them to be. Ray has 2 families. He has his home family which consist of me, his dad and his 2 siblings. Plus the two demons dogs. And at uni he has his partner, and a wide group of friends. Some that he refers to as family members as he call's one his dad. He has a fb friend an ex colleague that he calls mum. Just stay strong and positive. And remember out in the wider world that there are people that accept you, support you and love you as they/them and not as a her/she etc

SAME!!!