Many thanks for the review of my maps John, It is appreciated. Just a few points of clarification, if you don't mind? 1. It should be TalkyToaster; the other spelling (name) is copyrighted by Grant Naylor (authors/creators of Red Dwarf). 2. My maps are not designed to replace OS maps, they are designed to be used alongside paper maps (OS/Harvey/IGN or their digital equivalents on a smartphone). They do not use any data from OS, just data from OpenStreetMap and NASA. This is partly because I do maps for everywhere across the World, not just the British Isles. However, they are the most detailed Topographical maps available that are based on data from OSM and NASA; they are specifically designed for hikers, mountain bikers, mountaineers, ultra athletes, military personnel, greenlaners, etc. 3. The names of the Tarns, etc. are on my maps, they are just not shown until you move the pointer over them (this is to keep the map as clear of less frequently required textual data). This is the same for quite a bit of my map data, simply move the pointer over the icon, path, peak, area and it will tell you what it is, it's name, other data (if that exists in OSM). There is also data in mine that will never be on an OS map, such as gates, stiles, benches, individual trees, bothy's/weather shelters, cairns, pistes, marine data (but not depths) etc. (again, where that data exists in OSM). All the maps I produce are updated at least once a month, with the British Isles map being updated every week. 4. With my map in BaseCamp you can create routes and it will snap to all routable ways, footpaths, bridleways, cycleways, roads, and other unclassified track types too. 5. My maps, like the Garmin TopoActive maps can be overlaid over Garmin BirdsEye satellite imagery.

Brilliant video (as always). Mapping is one of the most used features for me whether hiking, biking or running. Great to see the mapping comparisons here. Thanks for sharing.

Hello Phoenix, Arizona. That’s beautiful terrain. It’s finally cooling off here so I’m gonna get out and hike in the desert and I’ll take some video and post it on my channel as well. You’ve given me some motivation to do so also thanks for showing how you get the map from your computer to the device. I don’t have a device like this yet, but I’ve been thinking about getting one as a back up to the old iPhone, I want to have some GPS device that works if the whole grid and Internet goes down. I’ve been doing a lot of thinking lately about back up back up power back up water back up devices everything. Thanks again.

Another nice walk and talk. I recently bought a 66s (second hand so not from you I’m afraid) having been a Fenix user for a long time. The cost of the 1:25,000 OS Garmin maps is eye watering and as I already have access to OS via a much cheaper subscription on my phone I bought the TT maps for the 66S. I have been really impressed with them. The detail is superior in many respects to the OS maps and the zoom clarity is fabulous. I used the 66S/TT combo for a 6 day hike along the South Downs Way. I both planned and navigated using the TT maps. Some of the extra detail available such as water points was invaluable. It was a really hot week and i hiked with my dog so knowing where i could get water was super helpful. Some of the detail you missed (e.g. the Tarn name) is there. Hover the pointer over it or set the map to show more detail and you’ll see it. Really pleased to see you do a review of these as they are a very cost effective alternative to the Garmin maps.

Looking forward to seeing further video's on the TalkyToaster maps. I'm currently using them on my 65S, simply the best maps for Ireland by far!

I've subscribed to your channel because of this video. Great job! Thank you!

Another excellent Walk & Talk. I use the TalkyToaster mapping on my 66s. The TT mapping is fantastic value for money, the mapping itself is very clear and, as you pointed out, stays sharp when the user zooms in. I find when zoomed in on the small screen of the GPS unit the TT mapping is far superior to the OS map. And the support from Martin at TT is fabulous. A GPS 66s from GPS Training with TT mapping is a fine combination!

Another good explanation of the GPS & maps. Excellent.

Great video and thank you for looking at the TalkyToaster mapping. I’m now on my second 2 year subscription, I’m a big fan but like you I miss the OS maps occasionally. I got myself in a muddle a couple of weeks ago when I was trying to plan a route near Worthy Farm in Glastonbury. TT maps were showing paths etc but on the ground the paths were private and quite understandable too, it added about 4kms to my walk. All ok but when I checked the OS when I got back to the Airbnb, all became obvious. In 3 years this was the first time I had fallen over while using TT, but it was my bad planning and nothing to do with TT mapping.

Useful video. The difference between OS mapping and TT mapping is the Garmin Ordnance Survey mapping comes with Routeable Trail Data within the National Parks. It means turn by turn navigation to get back to ‘carpark’. Turns out TT mapping is even better, it will give tutn by turn not only within National Parks, but anywhere over the map and globe too!!! Thinking of gps I always thought in countryside, in a wild I will be able to choose a waypoint and gps will guide me to it, via pathes. What a disappointment it was to find out generally it is not the case. You have to upload track/route and follow it. Looks like TT maps has solution and do it propper way as it should be done. Thank you.

An interview with @Martin Overton on the podcast would be very interesting.

Ey up. Just come across your vid. I’ve never heard of this piece of kit. I was debating getting the fenix 7, but think it’s a little overkill for my needs. I normally just use the osmaps on my phone which always works well.

Nice to see a review on the TalkyToaster maps, they're great maps. I use them 95% of the time on my 65s most recently up Ben Nevis and the detail it has on is immense. It has the name of all the gulleys on the North Face which the OS does not. Did you have the detail turned onto "most" in the map settings as my Talky map always says the names of the bits of water, lakes and pretty much most things on the map? Also I like how the Talky maps show gates, buildings, water sources etc. Shows so much detail over OS. Though I still like going back to OS every now and then as I think the countours are much nicer on the OS but I tend to view OS on the phone OS app as on the devices the OS maps look awful especially for the money they charge for them!

Really interesting to actually see the TalkyToaster Maps in action and compared to OS. But how did you manage to get both OS and TalkyToaster Maps on the device at the same time?!?

Do you like the the 66s better or the 65s better? I’m having a really hard time deciding which one to buy. I’ll use it for hiking but mainly for off trail for scouting for hunting spots for whitetail deer.

Hi good video but we're having a problem with a GPSmap 66S and I wonder if you could help: A simple hiking route has been created in Basecamp, uploaded to the device, it has about a dozen points and is only about 5 miles long. On the device; select routes, find, select the route of interest and click GO. Now the actual location of the GPS is about 20 miles away from the route to be followed. The device takes several minutes 'calculating'. It is actually calculating a route from the GPS location to the start of the route by road !!! Also the hiking route shown on the device doesn't match what can be seen in Basecamp where it was created; it has many extra 'spike' deviations. Can't see what settings to adjust to try and prevent this 'calculating' and routing from the device location to the start of the route to follow. Any advice or tips please??? On my GPSMap 62S it doesn't do anything like this, it simply will show the bearing to the start of the required route.

Question… are you in the UK intended to use our Galileo GNSS satellites? 🤭

My map shows nothing like what you have. How do I get that?

I’m sorry John but I can hardly hear you at times because of the background music

Is there a setting on the gps66 and the Fenix 6 Pro that stops the map rotating when you stop walking for a few seconds?

What do you recommend better the etrex se or gpsmap 66s?