How To Use A Treble Bleed On Guitar

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Phillip McKnight

Phillip McKnight

4 жыл бұрын

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@robinfawcett7973
@robinfawcett7973 4 жыл бұрын
Treble Bleed aside... I LOVE how you swap those pickups around!
@simontemplar3359
@simontemplar3359 4 жыл бұрын
Me watching the demo: oh yeah, that makes sense. I can totally hear the difference. Phil pulls pickups out of the back of the guitar. Me: WHAT THE #*$& JUST HAPPENED?!!!
@somniumguitars858
@somniumguitars858 4 жыл бұрын
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@Mr__V
@Mr__V 4 жыл бұрын
That's the part that messed with my day.
@Person-cv9dj
@Person-cv9dj 3 жыл бұрын
Mr V why?
@Mr__V
@Mr__V 3 жыл бұрын
@@Person-cv9dj like I was watching and enjoying the video. Then he was like "want to watch me swap pickups?... Want to see it again?". Crisis.
@Person-cv9dj
@Person-cv9dj 3 жыл бұрын
Mr V ok
@mattheweastel129
@mattheweastel129 4 жыл бұрын
Great clear demonstration Phil. I’ve always thought of doing it, but now I can hear the darkening of the tone is actually useful for the way I play
@tpherndon
@tpherndon 4 жыл бұрын
I have a guitar with passive humbuckers that comes with a treble bleed, and I am very happy it's there, it allows me to roll down the volume without the output getting muddy. I have a telecaster with NO treble bleed, and its single coils are very bright already, and I'm equally happy it does NOT have a treble bleed, as that lets me roll back volume and soften the sound for rhythm parts. Different applications and situations are, well, different.
@AndyMangele
@AndyMangele 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 100 % with you on that! Same goes for the question "What is a good amp?", which also depends on the situation! The list goes on forever...
@franciscoarana3735
@franciscoarana3735 3 жыл бұрын
That's the way to go for teles, it gives depth to volume swells.
@Justincase7761
@Justincase7761 4 жыл бұрын
I've been toying with this idea for a while now,...thanks for the clear, concise explanation PK!
@S_Shant
@S_Shant Жыл бұрын
This is a great demo. What amazes me is perceived volume. W/ treble bleed added, even as the volume knob is set to decrease volume, things seem louder because of the added clarity
@stevenmgyori3826
@stevenmgyori3826 4 жыл бұрын
Well done Phil! Cheap, Easy and Worthy! Thanks for sharing brother! Be Well All!
@MuseGuitarist
@MuseGuitarist 4 жыл бұрын
Phil just got off the phone with Mark at Somnium and bought his In Stock sibling to your Orange TS3 with a MAPLE NECK! I am so jazzed! Thanks for all the ideas I now have in my head for my "Impossible Guitar" :-) "To Bleed or Not to Bleed, that IS the question"
@pyroguitars1296
@pyroguitars1296 3 жыл бұрын
My ears get it now. Thanks. What a great guitar tech teacher.
@zazoomatt
@zazoomatt 4 жыл бұрын
Wow a GREAT Explanation ! Thanks Phillip
@robbievalentine8239
@robbievalentine8239 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Phil. I actually started the video thinking I wanted that mod, and then realized I didn't. Excellent worl
@kaicho8888
@kaicho8888 4 жыл бұрын
Phillip: Excellent precise demo. Thank you as usual.
@fernandobeghetto2854
@fernandobeghetto2854 Жыл бұрын
Good job man, this experiment is amazing! Thank you! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😁👍🏻
@57ebartley
@57ebartley 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. I did so this mod on my old Strat and I absolutely love it. Thank You for the video!
@michael_caz_nyc
@michael_caz_nyc Жыл бұрын
Great job with this Demo and explanation Phillip. Always enjoy your content my friend.
@Kept_Crude
@Kept_Crude Жыл бұрын
Brillant coverage. Thank you!
@halofour01
@halofour01 4 жыл бұрын
This is fantastically useful!! Home run once again sir!
@darrellm3410
@darrellm3410 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Glad to see how it affects different style pickups
@gonzorhernando5265
@gonzorhernando5265 2 жыл бұрын
Great and very detailed info on Treble Bleed… I’ve been mulling on putting them on my guitars. You explained a lot more than I was expecting. Thank you very much and decided to put it in my guitars. OMG!!! …that quick change guitar! Unbelievable! I want one of those for sure. Thanks for showing it off!!! Peace out, brother.
@BILLYBOBSTUNES
@BILLYBOBSTUNES 4 жыл бұрын
What a great way to try pickups back to back comparisons
@ncc74656m
@ncc74656m 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for doing this, I was just asking myself this question!
@JohnnyBeane
@JohnnyBeane 4 жыл бұрын
I dig it Phil!!! Thanks for the demo!!! Stay Safe man!!!
@SouthpawBawb
@SouthpawBawb 4 жыл бұрын
Phil I've been wanting to do this video for years. Thanks for doing it. All my (mainly single coil) guitars have treble bleeds, and wired between the "10" side of the Volume and tone control. To defeat or adjust the effect of the treble bleed I use the tone knob between 10 and 8 (where usually nothing really happens). Since I use staggered (or series) gain staging in my signal, it's the ultimate control infinitely variable. Turning down the volume feels more like rolling off the lows which cleans up the signal instantly. As you said the only time it's not needed is bridge High output Humbuckers. On a 5 way Strat switch there's ways to do that, as well as dual Vol/Tone control guitars. Very useful on the Neck Humbuckers. Think of it also as having that one "sit in the mix" knob when live mixing yourself with the band, ("I can go from the "singer doesn't notice me" to the "real dirty looks / I'm taking a Solo NOW" setting without touching the pedal board.) Sadly that's why 90% of players never use the volume knob on the guitar but at 10. Should be part of Guitar Lessons (when teaching electric).
@Jorgestrat
@Jorgestrat Жыл бұрын
Mr Philip´s ideas and information always help´s a lot. Thank you very much Sir!
@Tiburcio1950
@Tiburcio1950 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. You can really hear the difference. Just installed on my Jazzmaster, I really like it. I play at home at low volumes and this helps a great deal, especially since I wear hearing aids... Big problem for me. Will install on my other 20 guitars. Thanks again.
@alwaysrockn2009
@alwaysrockn2009 4 жыл бұрын
Slick. Cool video as always Phil. Rock on!
@BenFreund
@BenFreund 3 жыл бұрын
Great way to demonstrate this concept. Thanks!!!
@reddoggie100
@reddoggie100 4 жыл бұрын
That guitar is sooo cool! Learning a lot quickly.
@warriorinagardenianbradbur6109
@warriorinagardenianbradbur6109 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, answered all my questions, and some I didn’t know I had
@mikemaselli1568
@mikemaselli1568 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE that plug & play guitar!
@brucemillar
@brucemillar 7 ай бұрын
As always, informative and good value Phillip. Thanks mate! ✌️Putting one in my Tele asap.
@75vettemaon
@75vettemaon 4 жыл бұрын
Great information and demo. Thank you.
@krame99
@krame99 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always you have helped me out big time!! Oh and that white explorer with the gold pick guard is awesome beautiful guitar.
@guilhermebatlleyfont7577
@guilhermebatlleyfont7577 4 жыл бұрын
This video was wonderfully done Phill, really insightful! You should consider making a video regarding 50's wiring, as a lot os people have many questions regarding it's effects and how it compares to a treble bleed mod
@yamill36
@yamill36 4 жыл бұрын
So useful! Thanks! awesome guitar for doing tests by the way!
@fireheart_7
@fireheart_7 4 жыл бұрын
Great! I added a treble bleed but found a different layout. Two resistors one out on one side acting as a lead, then another one in parallel like you did. I really like the results. Using it on a Tele style with two high out put humbuckers that split into single coils.
@papasmamas1
@papasmamas1 4 жыл бұрын
Best video ive seen about the treeble bleed ever.
@personalsinr
@personalsinr 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the knowledge.
@BILLYBOBSTUNES
@BILLYBOBSTUNES 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all you do Phil
@barbmelle3136
@barbmelle3136 4 жыл бұрын
From Leo: Good demonstration. That guitar is really a great demo tool. I really like a treble bleed, but I am more subtle. I like a 390pf capacitor only with no resistor. Lots of ways to get there, it is the cheapest mod that does anything positive to the sound.
@darphbobo55
@darphbobo55 4 жыл бұрын
what a cool video. Phil you da man!!
@Peter-by3ox
@Peter-by3ox 4 жыл бұрын
that pup changer guitar I want one! Great vid
@NeilBolandGuitaristWriter
@NeilBolandGuitaristWriter Жыл бұрын
After this, I'm totally putting a treble bleed in my Strat. Thanks for the video!
@good_king_guitarman1334
@good_king_guitarman1334 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid Phil, i didn't know that this mod made hotter pickups behave differently to low-output pickups. Thanks for letting us know.
@Claimjumper55
@Claimjumper55 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job Phil!! My Ibanez JS1200CA (Satriani model) has a treble bleed and it's wired to a push/pull volume knob. It's the best of both worlds.
@otherGuise
@otherGuise 4 жыл бұрын
I've been on my own little pickup journey since middle of last year. Keyztone Exchanger pedal has definitely been my guiding light. It makes everything sound clear and provides great string definition. I use it to A/B guitar pickups and see how much muddiness is in the stock one, compared to its keyztone counterpart. Pickups like the field coil single coils from Supro, 1996 tex mex strat pickups, Gretsch Broad Tron pickups wired in parallel and fishman pickups survive the A/B comparison. I like the clarity, because it helps identify when technique isn't its greatest and let's me build better arpeggiation into parts. So far I've gone with classic core fishmans for my PAF (ESP LTD 1000T) Fishman SSS strat pickups (Mim Strat) Tosin Abasi replacing my PRS custom 24s 85/15s pickups. I'm becoming a on trick pony with solving my pickup issues, where previously I'd do a lot of phase/parallel/split coil modifications. Just feels like Fishman takes the guess work out with a consistently produced product that does the thing it says its going to do. Which is the exact opposite experience I had chasing the "right" PAF sound.
@rudiyantohalim736
@rudiyantohalim736 4 жыл бұрын
I mod my Mex Strat with treble bleed and Blender with the help from my friends. I'm very happy with the result 👍👍👍
@juliochingaling5824
@juliochingaling5824 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Blessings.
@DeesNerds
@DeesNerds 3 жыл бұрын
My American Professional Strat comes with a treble bleed and I love it!
@gsbguitarsgsb679
@gsbguitarsgsb679 7 ай бұрын
I got one for ya Phil, GFS has several different circuits you can install into your guitar that incorporate everything from overdrive to delay. The one I’m interested in is the comp/sustainer mod. Maybe you could look into that a bit. Would make for a series of videos actually if you tried each one. Thank you for your consistent informative content and no bullshit approach. It shows your work ethic and concern for the community is priority one. Appreciate you man!!! You are a hero…
@drbobbybones
@drbobbybones 4 жыл бұрын
Every guitar should have this!
@timcarter1164
@timcarter1164 4 жыл бұрын
This could not have been more perfectly timed. Getting ready to change the pickups out in one of my guitars, and I was curious about a treble bleed. Best explanation I found so far. Thank you very much, and now I will be making a removable one myself.
@VinnieBlues1
@VinnieBlues1 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the pickups quick hitch system...
@suretaithemongol6373
@suretaithemongol6373 4 жыл бұрын
Great topic! Thanks
@Cryanoutloud
@Cryanoutloud 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, I’ve got a request for you! I’m doing several guitar mods right now, and on the subject of treble bleed, you can apparently wire the resistor and cap in series as opposed to in parallel. I’ve heard good things about this, you could maybe do a comparison or if you know the effect it has maybe mention it next time you discuss treble bleed. Rock on buddy🤘
@overvieweffect9034
@overvieweffect9034 4 жыл бұрын
of all the somewhat gimmick stuff that we see in our industry nowadays, that guitar is by far the one I'd love to own the most, what a great and well executed idea!
@slapp3r439
@slapp3r439 2 ай бұрын
thats so cool almost like your knob is actually controling the volume for once and not desimating tone
@versieraygreenstreet2976
@versieraygreenstreet2976 4 жыл бұрын
love the guitar, cool video
@normdeplume6492
@normdeplume6492 Ай бұрын
It works great for high output pickups and high gain. The effect is more subtle and doesn't clean up as well compared to low output pickups but It really helps for dialing out low end flub and mud when using a lot of gain. It tightens and focuses the low end and does wonders for palm-muted notes. Overall, it helps harden and sharpen attack and allows the guitar to stand out more over bass and drums.
@brianlebrun2382
@brianlebrun2382 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a Nashville Tele and it's really pronounced when I back off the volume about 10%. I've wanted a treble bleed circuit on it. Thanks for posting the links.
@larryh.3173
@larryh.3173 4 жыл бұрын
For rock and fusion etc., I tend to live on my bridge pickup and fully utilize both Volume and Tone controls (esp the Volume). With no treble bleed, there wouldn't be much point for me in doing that. IMO. With the circuit, turning down to even as low as 2-3 still can yield a usefully delicious clean-but-present rhythm tone, even with an overdriven-on-10 setting. On the other hand, with my jazz archtops, I definitely prefer a darker 'traditional' jazz tone and this mod wouldn't be necessary there. IME. In that case, I also will make use of the entire Volume knob's range, but it's just going to a different type of warm tonality for that style, when lowered. All, of course, in my opinion and experience.
@benpowersguitar
@benpowersguitar 4 жыл бұрын
Might have to try this
@robertclarkguitar
@robertclarkguitar 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome !! Cheap brilliant mod!
@zaz4667
@zaz4667 4 жыл бұрын
AWESOME!
@Icantdrive55
@Icantdrive55 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Nice Mod.
@slowbend4390
@slowbend4390 4 жыл бұрын
The treble bleed saved my best guitar for me. A deluxe hss strat, the neck and body are wonderful, but the noiseless pickups were to "muffy". I played the guitar for years like this, but after i read some stuff about the noiseless i decided to put 500K pots in. That resolved the "muffieness", but the single coils went completely high-less when turning down the volume. (Because of resonance peak and stuff.) The treble bleed was the last piece to match the electics to the great wood base. It would have been easier to just put other single coils in, but i liked the sound of the noiseless (n3) enough to try this. And now i wish fender would have done this from the start, the noiseless would have a better reputation now i think.
@ZajoSTi
@ZajoSTi 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing demo. Perfect work with switching the circuit in the pot. Thank you. But now I know I prefer it without the treble bleed. PS: Swapping those pickups just threw me off the chair.
@skeetschuler1859
@skeetschuler1859 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Philip Stay safe
@joesatchton212
@joesatchton212 4 жыл бұрын
@@fbcaware8805 Given the current situation globally, it simply seems like the right thing to send that kind of wish for everyone. Stay safe....
@johnpicinich848
@johnpicinich848 4 жыл бұрын
I used to put a treble bleed mod in all my guitars now I convert them to '50s wiring try both but I like the '50s better after I got used to it.
@lukasschliepkorte3019
@lukasschliepkorte3019 4 жыл бұрын
Just Humbuckers?
@davesaenz3732
@davesaenz3732 3 жыл бұрын
I raise my volume and tone all the way up. And adjust it in my amp. I do like the sound it makes without the bleed mod.
@threefingerlou121
@threefingerlou121 4 жыл бұрын
Hi phil I have treble bleeds in all my guitars.. cause I can pick up any of my Stratocasters and can tune them in tone and treble bleeds make them work at any volume it works good for my style clean.. Thanks great video
@cowtowncustoms2110
@cowtowncustoms2110 4 жыл бұрын
I do that mod on all my guitars. I make my own because the parts are so cheap in bulk. Try Brandonwound Pickups, I love the PAF humbuckers(low output) and the "Sally's" witch are a set of Strat style mid scooped pickups. High quality and period correct construction and his pickups are all I am buying since I tried them!
@louaguado995
@louaguado995 4 жыл бұрын
Loving those changeable pickups! I've been using treble bleed/bypass circuits for 10 years. I believe the .001 has been standard on tele's for decades. But they get too bright with the volume below 4. That's why p.r.s. uses 180pf and Suhr uses 680. They aren't as bright
@ezgoen3882
@ezgoen3882 Жыл бұрын
Hiya, Handy hint for strat type guitars. Add a shielded wire to the input of your pot. Solder the shield to the back of the pot. Send the shielded wire out along side the main output to the jack cavity. Solder your bleed filter in across the wire from the pot to the outpt terminal on your jack. Future tweaks require only the removal of the jack socket - 2 screws- no string and pickguard removal for future tweekage Have fun PS: I run hss with a coil split on my bridge hotrail. I routed the wire to the unused half of the coil split switch so that the treble bleed is only active when the humbucker is split - even when I’m on one or more of the other single coils. So effectively in sss mode is when i get the bleed.
@use0fweapons
@use0fweapons 2 жыл бұрын
this is completely off topic but the most amazing part about this video was the pickup hot swap!
@a.barnett9647
@a.barnett9647 4 жыл бұрын
Phil, love your channel, always informative. Now maybe i may have missed you explain this one part but, here is my question: Isnt this what a tone capacitor does? Or is this kindof a volume pot equivalent of what the tone cap does on the tone pot? I hope im wording this ok, but i always thought tone capacitors and treble bleeds were the same. Maybe they are, but it is different in the way you wire them / the effect it has?
@StringsOfCrossroads
@StringsOfCrossroads 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see some Lambertones (tele types / humbuckers) pickups please! I’ve heard some excellent feedback from those in the worship guitar community and I’d like to purchase some but not sure if I’d find a similar sounding one here in the UK or they really are special enough to order from USA! Thanks Phil! This is a great series and resource!
@karbomusic
@karbomusic 4 жыл бұрын
I removed all treble bleed circuits from any guitars of mine that had them years ago. I found that at gigs, if I'm turning the volume down, I'm wanting to tuck into the mix more, it's the reason for turning down, the treble loss makes that work very well with less actual volume reduction; making not having TB in a performance/live band setting more musical more often than not. Depends on genre and YMMV of course but worth noting.
@billtice5057
@billtice5057 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a tone loss, as is being implied. It’s a tone change that is actually very controllable.
@karbomusic
@karbomusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@billtice5057 I'm not sure what that means, without TB, if you reduce volume, treble decreases - I removed my TB circuits exactly because I want the treble rolling off a tad. Maybe we are saying the same thing, not sure. That's just my personal preference after decades of gigging - doesn't apply to everyone, but someone may find it helpful because TB isn't for everyone. The video is a great resource on TB, just adding some additional info based on experience. :)
@billtice5057
@billtice5057 4 жыл бұрын
karbomusic we’re in agreement! :)
@karbomusic
@karbomusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@billtice5057 Yay!! I should have drank more coffee before replying this morning!
@jessicawalden6072
@jessicawalden6072 4 жыл бұрын
PRS puts treble bleed on all their guts and mine works great live, but we all have different ideas
@VinnieBlues1
@VinnieBlues1 2 жыл бұрын
A W E S O M E !!! Tks for posting this video
@patrickmulder2450
@patrickmulder2450 4 жыл бұрын
I did something similar to this with one of my guitars and I found out I always turn the treble bleed off. Good to figure that out though!
@therugburnz
@therugburnz 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely put it on a bypass switch. In a live situation the more variation the better.
@SaintFredrocks
@SaintFredrocks 4 жыл бұрын
You should check out the PMT V-Treb variabel treble bleed bypass circuit. Works great and you can dial it in as you like.
@omarcusihuaman4261
@omarcusihuaman4261 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you need it.
@rosieotis
@rosieotis 4 жыл бұрын
PRS replacement pots come with a 181pf cap on it. Smart.
@jannmaas
@jannmaas 2 жыл бұрын
Great video !!! Can you tell how to solder that correctly like you did with that push pull button ? Can you send me a picture ? Thanks !!
@johngorsha8096
@johngorsha8096 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! But how does it compare to no tone knob just a straight volume?
@Hurricane9146
@Hurricane9146 4 жыл бұрын
Would’ve loved to see how this affects the SD Invader, Tom Delonge productions had a super high value treble bleed
@alexandrebier4581
@alexandrebier4581 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a strat guy. I found the lack of trebble... troublesome, sometimes. But then, sometimes when I roll back the volume, I actually WANT that tone swap. I have a trebble bleed installed in one of my fave strats, but still... Like most things related to gear: it depends! But I really enjoyd your bypass solution. This I would try!
@PandaSharpener
@PandaSharpener 4 жыл бұрын
That Lizzy Hale Explorer tho...
@johnmaynes7142
@johnmaynes7142 2 жыл бұрын
She calls it the “sexy biatch” and it was inspired by the Gretsch Whitw Falcon
@robertlester641
@robertlester641 4 жыл бұрын
Just came by to drop a like and ogle the Lzzy Hale Explorer. Keep up the great content!
@PhillipMcKnight
@PhillipMcKnight 4 жыл бұрын
The lzzy video will be out tomorrow
@ryanwilson5936
@ryanwilson5936 4 жыл бұрын
It would be fun to see how different all of a certain players “signature” pickups sounded against each other. Like all of Satriani’s signature pickups, or Vai’s. Or any other player that has a bunch of “signature” pickups. Let’s see how much their “signature” sound has changed throughout the years due to pickup selection!
@champamoore
@champamoore 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Matt Pike sets from Lace if you cover this, please!
@fmwaters1
@fmwaters1 4 жыл бұрын
Dimarizo Super Distortion T. Seymour Duncan Jerry Donahue. Both are exceptional Tele Bridge pickups. Dimarzio SD T is surprisingly sweet sounding. .
@geraldponce8336
@geraldponce8336 2 ай бұрын
That has to be most versatile guitar i have ever seen
@gtr1952
@gtr1952 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Dan Erlewine, at StewMac, is the first one I remember doing that years ago. For a demo, would you please do the StewMac 'Golden Age, Vintage Vibe' humbucker? They are reasonably priced, and supposed to be lower output, like the PRS 'LT" pups in the 594. Thanks!! --gary
@markandclairethomas2062
@markandclairethomas2062 2 жыл бұрын
You can get basically the same effect with a buffer first in your chain ( with an input impedance around 1M Ohm . I think most Boss pedals have a buffer . Works with my blues driver 👍
@cass2771
@cass2771 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Phil. So, on a Gretsch, with individual volume pots for each pick up, and a master volume, would you be looking at adding this circuit to each volume pot, ie 3 of these circuits?
@JohnShalamskas
@JohnShalamskas 3 жыл бұрын
I believe you are correct. You could just add one treble bleed circuit to the master volume and leave the other two volumes at 10. The treble bleed does nothing when the volume is maxed.
@chrisjkerins
@chrisjkerins 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you think you could do an upgrade on a Dan Electro DC-3 ? I've been watching your videos and i've started upgrading my Squier Strat using your videos and my friend wants to get involved with his dan electro so would be good for some ideas, cheers.
@MesaGuitarGuy
@MesaGuitarGuy 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear the Lollar Chicago Steel pickup (strat size)
@mjtejero
@mjtejero Ай бұрын
Hey @Phillip, how did you wire that push pull tone pot to disengage treble bleed?
@tomfoolery2082
@tomfoolery2082 4 жыл бұрын
Theres a treble bleed in my sg n it keeps the high end but the vol is all but an on off switch . What hav i done now ? Love the channel . Thx
@rogerlawson4516
@rogerlawson4516 2 жыл бұрын
Show us the wiring for the cutoff switch. Thanks Phil.
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