By looping the tree saver through itself, you're putting ALL the load on ONE line of the tree saver material. If you put your D-ring through BOTH ends of the tree saver, you're distributing the pull so that HALF of the force will go into each end, instead of ALL the force going in ONE end.

YOU PUT THE CLEVIS THRU BOTH ENDS OF THE TREE SAVER = STRAIGHTER PULL AND EQUAL STRESS AROUND THE TRUNK

Protip: when putting the pin in your shackles, screw them all the way till they stop, then back a half turn. Keeps them from binding up when you have to undo them.

For additional safety, its always good to throw a jacket or that Super ATV bag on top of and in the center of the winch line in case it snaps or something fails so it doesn’t come back at you or bystanders. It loses all it’s inertia and will drop harmlessly to the ground.

Doubled the ability of the winch while cutting the strength of the tree saver in half. Grabbing both eyelets gives almost double the strap strength.

Thanks for being fast simple and demonstrate snatch block as force multiplier!! Excellent vid

Thanks for sharing this info.

Anybody else start itching while watching this guy kneeling down going through that bag in the middle of all that poison ivy?

Thanks for the basics

Great video. Thanks.

He really does have no idea

Awesome video thanks man

I suspect that ATV doesn’t get stuck too often! 🤣

Right on brother thanks

When hitching the "tree saver" to itself you will half the strength of that strap

Thank you so much

Awesome video

When used as shown with the snatch block around the tree and the winch rope coming back to the truck, the pulling force is doubled on the truck but the tension in the pulling rope is half since you have both ends coming back to the truck. So if the winch and cable are rated for 6000 lbs, using a snatch block in this manner will increase the force to 12,000 lbs but the winch line still has only 6,000 lbs of tension, but there are 2 lines at 6,000 lbs X 2= 12,000 lbs..

Close enough and could be done differently, but it still got the job done.

U R AWESOME Thank you for the video. Well made video!

You should be as low on the trunk as possible. The tree is stronger there.

Good stuff man

Never tighten that clevis bolt down even by hand, always loosen it a 1/4 to 1/2 turn. If you tighten it even snug when you put pressure on it from a heavy haul it can make it so tight you won't be able to loosen it.

Not that it’s a huge issue with the weight of that ATV, but if you girth hitch your anchor you do reduce the strength of the strap (up to or around 50%). It’s not something to worry about too much if you’re just pulling for lack of adequate traction, but if there’s the potential to shock load it or there’s suction from mud involved you have the potential to break your tree saver doing that. Same concept as just wrapping the winch rope around tree and clipping it to itself.

That's not a clevis. That's called a shackle.

Nice video

Thanks

Nice video, I really appreciate The awesome tutorial on using a winch!! How’s the mechanical reliability of the Polaris? Do you use it lot in the mud does it ever break down is everything tough and rugged on it like a Honda? I just don’t know I’m really curious could you help me out. Thanks

Need something like that for stump pulling.

Video clear instructions and to the point 🙌🏼🙌🏼🤙🏼❤️

thx

I LIKE TO USE A TIRE STRAP WITH THE METAL ENDS, ALL ONE PIECE TO WRAP AROUND THE TREE.

turn tight on your shackle not clevis, then quarter turn back so you can get it off after.

Place the clevis through BOTH loops of the tree saver to equal load on both portions of the saver... not the way shown in the video.

Is this kit available on your website?

1:1 ratio NOT double pull cap

Lots!

wow your the only one i trust in this situation, all the other videos shows to put the tree saver around ONLY AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TREE,, how stupid ,, they must of not taken physics in high school,, if the ground has the curve your cable will DRAG at the bottom,, anyways also i like how you looped the tree saver in thru the loop and hooked up the snatch roller thru one of the tree saver ends ,,, after 2 hrs of looking your the only smart one

Curious if you got a bad poison ivy rash after filming this? Sure looks like you're sitting right in the middle of it. Thanks for the tips.

Ive always called them shackles

Wait...shudnt vehicle be put to nuetral and engine running?

Wel to do it that way you must have a very long wire though!

I admit that I'm new to winches. I was wondering about the snatchblock doubling the pulling power. Is the cable on a winch capable of handling double the rating as the winch itself? If I have a 3200 pound rated winch and I get into an extreme situation can I safely pull 4000-5000 pounds without compromising the winch rope or cable? Thanks

too many things wrong here. gtg

Not killing trees keeps areas open. Always use a tree saver- it's called that for a reason!

Great video! I hope you didn’t get poison ivy from the vine growing on that tree.

I just hook it up like the guy on Jurassic Park trying to tow that bus off the cliff

First off you run your shackle bolt then you back it off of half a turn so it don't jam up on you and secondly a snatch block does not double the strength of the winch it actually cuts the load weight in half by splitting it between two points your inches is a 6,000 it's still going to be a 6000 you just cut the weight in half by Distributing to two different points does internet that's pretty good video

Only works if you have a big bumper with shackles

Great video! But from a crane operators perspective, it's a shackle, not a clevis and a block not a pulley. Just trying to help here. Doesn't make a difference but someone may laugh at you

Does the tree get choked out that way by looping the trunk saver through itself?

That's one hell of a rig but you shouldn't choke the tree out like that. And there's no need to do it that way. Just wrap the strap around the tree and connect up to both of the ends together.

I’m installing a 3000 lb winch om my girlfriends 2020 RZR trail. What weight, or how big should my ‘shackle’ be? It just seems like it’s bend the pin under extreme load. I assume a big as I can as long as it fits? But a hardware store may have a visually looking large shackle, but made in China with a low load rating. Hope that made sense? Thanks

Probably a stupid question, but let’s say the load is cut in half or the winch is twice as strong. Is that to say a 12k winch could move 24k? And if so, is that acceptable or does it somehow risk overloading the winch (ie. Breaking the winch or the line)? I’m thinking based on how you described it, no. It’s just twice as efficient? TIA

That’s the way it’s done! 👍👍👍

My winch is on it's way to me...... So, you prevented me from being guilty of everyone doing it wrong. LOL Thanks!

I find it funny that your winch looked used but the; tree saver, snatch block and clevis looked brand new.

Why would you sling your tree saver around both trees? You'll damage the tree. What's the point of using a tree saver then?

Good thing it wasn't an actual truck/Jeep at the other end of that line. And he was nowhere near the tree's "trunk"

Why not just use the strap that u choked around the tree just put the hook on that?

You just cut that straps strength in half by looping like that

How many mistakes did y'all find? LOL

How did the winch cable not roll up in the same place on the winch?

I thought a snatch block was my wife’s pajamas

That’s a bow shackle not a clevice hook..

Again, false information is given here... The installed pulley gives you a change in the direction of pull but by no way a mechanical advantage. If you want a 2:1 advantage the pulley has to move not the cable. With this rig, 1 foot goes in and 1 goes out, so it's 1:1. As for your tree anchor, the webbing should go around the tree with the schackle going in both loops. The way it was set, the webbing is choking itself up to its full cut.

so I wanna throw my 2 cents in here as well, With that set up you're not actually making the winch work any easier, if the pulley was attached to your UTV and the Winch was attached to the tree and you ran the set up, It would because you'd have to forces pulling the machine to the winch, in this case how you have it hooked up you still have only 1 force pulling you and that 1 force is after the pulley, Having it switched to the pulley on UTV would give you 2 forces. You'll have to watch this video to understand. What you're doing is what this guy does in demonstration 1, the way it should be done is demonstration 2, but can't do it without adding additional pulleys or reversing the pulley and winch. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qJmCqJSrv9DapZs.html

You wrapped the sling wrong.

Don't pull from anywhere other than the base of the tree. Some trees will hold, but not a good habit to develop

bro sitting in poison ivy?

thats called tow belt...

Oh man, so many things wrong here.

My wench looks completely different than this one usually it's doing the dishes in the kitchen

Wow you are not the person to be teaching this somebody Gunnar get hurt following your advice

That's not a safe way to use a tree saver strap! By looping one end inside the other you actually decrease the strength of the tree saver strap because essentially you are using only one end of the strap; thus, turning it into a weak link. It's the choking method and can be dangerous. Just connect the bow shackle on each end of the tree saver strap. You'll maximize the strength from both ends. This was a poor demonstration. Clearly this guy had no clue how to use a snatch block on a tree saver strap. There are plenty of videos on youtube on how to do this correctly.

🤦‍♂️ this is NOT the proper way to use a winch