Is the etching solution necessary for freshly self leveled concrete?

@@derickdoveglass not sure...my floor is old so I just followed all the steps...that might be a better question for a professional...???

@@lwc2009 I understand, Thank you for replying.

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Hello John, I am planning to do epoxy with the same product as well. I see you have mentioned that you applied clear coat epoxy on the top of it, can you please share the product information?

Great to hear John!

Haha! This is great

Really? Don't be too picky on site, I like them tho.

You need to eat them with rotten vegetables to bring out the correct flavor

If you mixed the products, applied them and maybe throw the chips around how did you end up adding a clear coat at the end?

Want kind of clear coat you used..

How long did it take to complete?

TheTerminator1919 washed floor a day before , following day painted within 2 hours it was done

wish I could add a pic to show

Why don't they recommend a second coat?

Hi Tom, great questions! Our Epoxyshield Garage Floor Kit is meant for bare concrete only and priming is not recommended. Priming is only necessary if there is existing paint on the surface. In that case, we recommend our Rust-Oleum Garage & Interior Floor Primer. In regards to recoating, as long as you don't spread the coating too thin, a second coat isn't necessary. You can use the coverage rate for each kit as a guide for how much is required. It's always best to buy an extra kit in case your floor is extremely porous. If a second coat is required, you can reapply before 72 hours without any prep. After 3 days, you will need to scuff sand with 80-100 grit, clean off the dust and recoat. The clear coat is designed for extra protection and provides a high gloss finish which the chips/flakes can disguise. It's not necessary to apply the sealer to seal the flakes as the flakes stick well to the garage floor coating kit application.

Sorry for the delay! We recommend mixing one gallon and activator at a time because once the product is mixed, it begins to thicken. If you activate too much product all at once, you may not have time to apply it all before it becomes very thick. Hope your project goes well!

Hi, I recommend waiting 3 days to start a quick power wash, yes quick because your concrete is brand new so there wont be that much dust/dirt on it. Then follow the video. Wait a day before applying the 2nd coat, wait another day to apply a 3rd coat. A 3rd coat is not necessary at all!

Hi Kelly! Prior to recoating we recommend to use a wire brush to remove any loose or peeling paint and sweep or rinse away the dust. Then, follow up with a Cleaner & Degreaser to wash the whole surface, using the wire brush on any exposed concrete. Once the surface is dry, scuff sand the entire surface with 80-100 grit sand paper, or use our Zinsser Garage & Interior Floor Primer. If you do use the primer, recoat with the Epoxyshield within 6 hours, but no more than 48 hours, to ensure proper adhesion of the topcoat.

That’s the same thing I did and it worked out perfect!

Hi! This can be done, but we usually discourage it because the material, once mixed, has a potlife of just a few hours. All activated material would need to be used within that time frame. If you are working quickly, or with a partner, all components can be activated at once. Otherwise, we recommend activating one gallon at a time.

@@RustOleumCDN I did it one at a time n guess what happen? I got two different color.

@@LG-nh4bs That's not what we like to see! We recommend getting in touch with our product experts directly at 1-800-387-3625 so they can help sort this out.

Use 50% sulfuric acid and you wouldn't have a problem 😅

Hi Andrew. Epoxyshield won't adhere well to sealed concrete, but we do have a floor primer that can be used on the sealer first, and this would allow the Epoxyshield to adhere without the sealer needing to be grinded off. See primer here: www.rustoleum.ca/product-catalog/consumer-brands/rocksolid-floors/concrete-floor-primer/ Hope this helps!

Hi there - sorry for the delay! Ideal humidity range is 50-75%. Any higher, and the dry time may be impacted, but the adhesion will not be impacted at all. Hope this helps!

I called the company up because I had literally the exact temperature scenario out here and they said no. They said no because the paint may clump up.

Depends on how good the slab is. Most slabs are crap. Only fresh new slabs should get this. Sorry average guys.

not needed

Great question! New concrete needs 28 days to cure fully before it can be painted with our Epoxy Shield Garage Floor Coating.

What happens if you mess up and put in too early

Hi Karthik, if the area isn't exposed to the outdoor elements then you can apply the Epoxyshield Garage Floor Coating Kit, however, you'll need to be careful during construction as the floors won't hold up to heavy items being dropped on it like equipment or tools.

We'd recommend first checking with the manufacturer of the self-leveling concrete to make sure it can be top-coated. If it can be top-coated, to prep the surface we recommend cleaning, etching, doing any patch and repairs, sanding the edges on repaired areas to smooth it out, and then scuff sanding the repaired areas with 220-grit to promote adhesion. And finally, remove the sanding dust and coat the whole floor.

Hi there! Our Epoxyshield Garage Floor is for interior use only. It is not UV stable and will not hold up to the outdoor elements. It comes in a pre-mixed Gloss Grey and Gloss Tan, and there is a Tint Base.

You will need a separate product to clean and degrease; the etch is not a cleaner. The etch opens the pores of the concrete so the coating soaks in. If the etch is used, grinding is not required. If you want to surface grind, there is no need to etch as they both do the same job!

Unfortunately we don't have the Garage Floor Coating Kit available in black. We don't recommend adding colour as this will affect the mixing ratio and the product may not dry.

Hi Chad, you can find the full details on mixing and prep online here: www.rustoleum.ca/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/RustoleumCA/TDS/English/EPS--GarageFloorCoating-(1).ashx

Hi Al! If you have a 2.5 car garage, both pouches of etch should be used.

Rust-Oleum Canada thx

Yes it can!

We recommend disposing of the rollers and brushes used

You can caulk the joints after the coating is applied and cured, however we don't recommend applying Epoxyshield over the caulking.

Best way I found to fill in these joints is with hydraulic cement and then grind them down smooth. It came out so nice this time.

We recommend an epoxy safe ½” (12.7 mm.) nap roller cover and 9” (.2 m) roller frame in order to apply an even coat of Epoxy Shield onto the surface

If it's too cold Epoxyshield may not set up properly and fully cure. You may need to wait until next Spring if the temperature is continuously dropping to ensure the best results.

@@RustOleumCDN Was afraid of that. I did end up not putting it down as it was only 13C. Could I use infrared heaters to try to keep the slab up to temp or will the direct infrared cause any issues as it's curing?

@@redsquirrelftw We wouldn't recommend using heaters or infrared to help with drying as it can cause moisture which wouldn't allow the coating to dry properly. At 13 degrees if the surface still feels dry, you can proceed with the application

We recommend priming with our Rust-Oleum Garage & Interior Floor Primer (348098). It can be applied to painted/sealed or bare, etched concrete. It must be top coated after 6 hours, but no more than 48 hours.

@@RustOleumCDN Thanks for the information. I did search for that particular #348098 but can't locate it. Is Seal-Krete Epoxy concrete garage floor paint (primer) acceptable? Thanks, John

@@jrouche7009 You can find the primer at Home Depot, Canadian Tire, or Lowe's. It's best to stick to this primer as it's been tested with our Epoxyshield Garage Floor Kit.

@@RustOleumCDN In another reply you said that Epoxyshield is meant to adhere to bare concrete with no primer unless you were putting Epoxyshield over top of prior coating? Am I missing something?

Since etching with a diamond grinder is the best way to prepare a concrete surface, you won't have to use the citric etch pouch that is included in the kit. We recommend sanding the patched areas smooth so they are level with the rest of the floor, as the coating may look uneven afterwards if you don't.

Rust-Oleum Canada : I was considering doing that just scuffing it up with possibly 100 grit sanding block. I do realize this is all about preparation and without a clean surface it won’t adhere properly. That’s why I am thoroughly doing this step-by-step going above and beyond because I hate doing something twice. Thank you very much for getting back to me as soon as you did and I will try to put up a review video after I am done. I hope you guys are doing well up there in Canada with this coronavirus very awkward times at the moment down here in America.

@@fattony123082 you're very welcome we're happy to help! We hope you're doing well too and we can't wait to see the finished result!

Rust-Oleum Canada : Just curious after I go to apply this. Is there any additional clearcoat that you would recommend or just let the product do its job? Will the flakes sink down in or lay on top with the end results?

@@fattony123082 The clear coat is designed for extra protection and provides a high gloss finish which the chips/flakes can disguise. It's not necessary to apply the sealer to seal the flakes, the flakes stick well to the garage floor coating kit application.

We recommend allowing new concrete to cure for a minimum of 28 days before applying Epoxyshield

use it after etching for sure.

@@frankisme7792 do you then need to sand the patch repaired areas down after you repair them?

​@@xavierwhiteii9953i would. Just clean all the dust up thoroughly

Frank I am doing the same thing and it appears my garage floor has a sealant as well. Did you end up using both the primer and etch?

@@josephtaylor8632 Hi Joseph, I ended up renting a diamond grinder to grind the floor instead of etch because the epoxy I bought says etch (chemical way) wont remove the existing sealer, only phsical way can do it and it turned out a awsome result, it did take me a while to finish the project, but its totally worth it.

@@frankisme7792 Thank You!

Hi William. Assuming the surface is very clean and totally dry, the etch will not be required over the leveling concrete. The leveling concrete should be allowed to cure fully before being painted. Hope this helps!

Assuming the surface is very clean and completely dry, the etch will not be required over the levelling concrete. The levelling concrete should be allowed to cure fully before being painted. Hope this helps!

While the use of a mask is not required, if you are feeling light-headed, you may want to consider wearing a mask as everyone may experience a different reaction. We also recommend opening doors or windows to help with air circulation.

If there is existing paint, we recommend priming with our Zinsser Garage & Interior Floor Primer. To prep the surface, use a wire brush to remove any loose or peeling paint. Then rinse or sweep away any dust and other particles, and clean the entire floor with a cleaner & degreaser. Next sand (60-80 grit) or spot etch any exposed concrete surfaces, rinse thoroughly and allow to dry completely before priming. The primer must dry for a minimum of 6 hours, but no more than 48 hours to ensure proper adhesion of the topcoat.

For painting bathroom tile we'd recommend Rust-Oleum Home Interior Floor Paint, now available in Canada! www.rustoleum.ca/product-catalog/consumer-brands/ro-home

Did you end up having to do that?

Thanks for reaching out! Could you please confirm, by black top are you referring to asphalt?

Thanks for reaching out! We recommend you apply Epoxyshield Garge Floor Coating Kits only when air, material, and surface temperatures are between (15-29°C) and the surface temperature is at least 5°F (3°C) above the dew point. The relative humidity should not be greater than 85%. These numbers need to be maintained for at least 12 hrs.

@David Vazquez the flakes are completely optional!

@David Vazquez you dont have to put the flake's, its your preference. One of the reasons i like the flake's is that it camouflages any light cracks in a garage floor.

They will do that at Lowes for free.

As long as the concrete has cured for at least 28 days, you can etch and apply Epoxyshield afterwards

Its very slippery. Think about it before using it.

If you did this to plywood then there's a good chance that the acid solution remained in the wood. The acid solution is keeping your epoxy from curing

Still protects the floor

I wonder if I drive my excavator over my garage floor will it scratch the epoxy? ROFLMAO

Hi there! Please call our toll free number and our industrial technical support will provide a recommendation on commercial use. The number is: 1-800-387-3625 .

The Epoxyshield Garage Floor Coating is intended for use on concrete surfaces only. While it will adhere to wood, durability and overall coverage may be impacted. RockSolid, however, can be used on wood, and would be a great alternative to Epoxyshield on wood surfaces. See here: bit.ly/2CW9VkD

We wouldn't recommend using the anti-skid with the coloured Garage Floor Coating kit. If you're using the clear kit, an anti-slip additive is included.

We'd recommend the Premium Clear Floor Coating Kit which adds a high-gloss protective finish

@@RustOleumCDN can you paint over chips?

@@sonora6702 Epoxyshield will cover minor cracks, however larger ones should be repaired with our Concrete Patch & Repair kit!

I just applied it this weekend turned out great

But i had a thin layer in one corner will it start to peel with time?

It's hard to give a timeline, high-performance wheels, with no premium clear coating, can maybe last a year or so, it depends on how often you use the vehicle.

@@RustOleumCDN I was planning on using 2 coats of the clear coat. Will that help much? Also, after I grind down the concrete, is it necessary to use the chemical etching too?

@@clearedhot7030 Two coats of the clear will definitely help provide extra protection. When grinding the surface, etching is not required afterwards.

@@RustOleumCDN Thanks for the quick reply.

Hi there! Depending on the square footage of your garage, you might not need to use all componenets. Do you know the square footage of your garage?

Rust-Oleum Canada 484 square foot

@@bulky79 Due to the size of your garage, all components should have been used. We recommend applying a new coat with the leftover product. If the floor has been used it needs to be cleaned, and then scuff sand with 80-100 grit, clean off the sanding dust and recoat.

Unfortunately, Epoxyshield won't stop the sweating, so the coating will become slippery when wet

@@RustOleumCDN will the paint peel after the floor sweats?

@@MrRockon94 If the floor sweats due to the moisture coming from the ground up, then that would cause peeling. If this is a concern, we recommend using Rocksolid Moisture Stop first and then coat with Epoxyshield.

@@RustOleumCDN would rock solid moisture stop work over an existing sealed concrete floor?

@@MrRockon94 Unfortunately, it's for bare concrete only. To use it you'll first have to surface grind the floor to remove the previous coating.

Hi William, unfortunately there isn't a ratio to make a smaller batch. If you do decide to make a smaller batch we can't guarantee the results.

The ratio appears to be 3:1. The gallon has 3 quarts in it and the activator is 1 quart. So if you get an automotive paint mixing cup you can mix smaller batches to a ratio of 3 to 1. 3 parts epoxy and 1 part activator.

EPOXYShield® Premium Clear Coating can be applied over the Garage Floor Finish after 24 hours

@@RustOleumCDN is that optional?

@@shkurti21 yes it is optional, but for best results we do recommend you top coat with Premium Clear Coating for ultra protection and a high-gloss finish.

@@RustOleumCDN if i am applying another coat on top of the original should i mix the antiskid to the original coat or to the second clear coating? thanks?

@@shkurti21 You can add the anti-skid to either kit! If you are planning on using the clear coat, add the anti-skid to that kit only. If you are not topcoating with the clear, then add it to the Garage Floor kit.

For previously coated floors make sure the floor is clean and dry. Use a wire brush to remove any loose or peeling paint or stain and if the floor is sealed, the sealer will have to be removed by grinding or shot blasting. To ensure proper adhesion, scuff sand the entire surface.

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Hi Carolyn, we wouldn't recommend painting asbestos tile with Epoxyshield.

Yes you can! After you've mixed the contents in the bag, pour the contents in another container and add the anti-skid additive. Another option is to pour the coating on the floor and then broadcast the additive before moving onto the next section.

@@RustOleumCDN I didn't fill the cracks before putting rocksolid coating thinking it will hide small cracks but cracks still shows up. What is my option to fill cracks now?

@@hipatel10 we recommend scuff sanding the areas that need repairs with 80-100 grit, remove the sanding dust, and patching with our Epoxyshield Concrete Patch & Repair kit. Allow the product to cure for 8 hours at 70°F (21°C) and 50% relative humidity before sanding to smooth the areas with the rest of the floor. Then clean off the dust and reapply the floor coating kit.

Rust-Oleum Canada Thank you

Hi Mike, we appreciate your feedback! Since the chips are tossed onto the wet film, it's natural for the chips to land on top of each other and not completely stick to the coating. A quick sweep will remove any loose chips. As for thickness, the Technical Data Sheet recommends to apply 6 mils coat thickness. We've passed along your feedback so our team can consider including these details in the instruction sheet so there's no confusion in the future.

Same happened to me....and i had more than 1/2 gallon of left over.Now i am debating to buy another kit or to do a clear coat please @rosteleum_canada any recomandation. It's less than 24 hours from aplication.

You can get the paint department to add coloring to change to the desired color, I'm guessing this is new as last time I did it this was not available.

The video is 2 years old and your comment is 4 months old. Go figure :)

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Hi Amy, we need a bit more detail to help get to the bottom of this! Could you please reach out to us directly at 1-800-387-3625 or techsupport@rustoleum.ca?

Thanks for reaching out! We need a bit more detail about the trailer to provide a product recommendation. Is the trailer for commercial use?

Yes commercial use waterslides

@@lsxpower3367 thank you for clarifying! We don't typically recommend Epoxyshield for commercial use, if you reach out to our tech support team directly at techsupport@rustoleum.ca they can help to determine the best product for your trailer!

Hi Tee! Since this application hasn't been tested by our product experts, we wouldn't be able to stand behind the product with the addition of glitter

Rust-Oleum Canada I don’t mean in the actual paint epoxy with the kit because I think the glitter is not big enough to shine through but I wanted to know could I put it in the clear protective coat that comes separate from the system

@@NailCave_BeautieBar thank you for the clarification, however that application has also not been tested by our product experts so we wouldn't be able to stand behind the results

A clear coat is not necessary, but can be applied to give the surface a very polished, showroom finish. We like to recommend the Epoxy Shield Premium Clear Coat for this type of application. Hope this helps!

Since this product heats up a little when mixed, we recommend a "good quality" roller so the roller doesn't fall apart. You don't have have to buy the most expensive roller on the market, but we want to steer them away from cheaper choices. A roller that's priced mid-range will do just fine in an Epoxy application. Hope this helps!

Ideally, the concrete sides would be cleaned the same way. Keep in mind, only short vertical surfaces (approx. 3 feet or less) can be coated with the Epoxy Shield Garage Floor Coating successfully. Hope this helps!

Did you prime the concrete first?

I have a two car garage and had plenty left. Did this 2 years ago and it's still holding up great.

Depends on how big your garage is. Our garage is a tight 2 car garage and we had PLENTY left over.

Hi there! One coat is sufficient, however, if you would like to apply a second coat it can be done after 24 hours and you have up to 72 hours to recoat with no prep. If applying a clear coat, the anti-slip should be added to this final coat to add slip resistance.

@@RustOleumCDN Awesome, thanks! One other thing - it looks like the regular EpoxyShield kits only come with enough flake for a light broadcast - like 1-2lbs, right? If I wanted to do a heavier broadcast, how much can I add based on how much the mil thickness of the coating will accept?

@@ranerg318 there's no limit to the amount of flakes you can use, however, you will need to shop vac and scrape after it has dried to remove any flakes that are loose, and clear coating is a must. You may require more than one kit to clear coat, as it can soak in a lot of the flakes and brings down the coverage rate.

@@RustOleumCDN Thanks!