Thank you. It's indeed unfortunate that individuals often resort to using filters or makeup while demonstrating these products. In a way, this practice can unintentionally suggest that the products aren't effective. Moreover, it can create an impression that their primary goal is to sell more products, which might well be their main motivation. I believe we should instead focus on showing these products on our genuine, bare faces, rather than pretending otherwise. By doing so, we can truly make a difference in figuring out what works and what doesn't.

Omg praising people for the bare minimum but this is what society has come 2 tho so I cant blame you

Hello Nancy, I am glad that it started with education 🙃. It can be a bit drying, but you can use something hydrating before or after to combat the dryness. And don't use too much of it. I also wish you a Happy New Year, and thank you very much 🥰

Yes, the cooling sensation is a good idea; I also keep several formulations in the fridge, although I'm not using this solution anymore.

The product is a water-based eye serum, so it should be applied right after cleansing your face.

The product directions specify, "Apply a small amount onto the eye contour in the morning and evening," and note that "Caffeine Solution 5% + EGCG is a water-based serum that reduces the look of puffiness and dark circles in the eye contour." This implies its intended use is for the eye contour area. While it doesn't explicitly state to avoid applying it to the eyelids, using high concentrations on the eyelids can be irritating. I suspect that prolonged use might reveal negative effects due to its potentially drying nature. This is particularly true unless one applies a significant amount of moisturizer on top. However, this practice might become impractical during physical activity as it could lead to the product entering the eyes.

@breezy_sourgurl ~ What I understand the "eye contour" 👁️ to be is from the end of the under eye at the outside up to and including the eye lid & up to the brow bone 🙄 - so between the instructions on The Ordinary's box & this video --- it's frankly confusing 🫡!!!

The eye contour refers to the area extending from the inner corner of the eye to the outer corner, and just below the brow bone, but excluding the upper eyelids. However, you also need to consider the product's ingredients and your specific targets. For example, with the caffeine solution, you would aim to address puffiness and dark circles.

Yes, that's fine! :) Use it after cleansing and exfoliating.

No, the best thing you can do for that area is to consider laser treatment. Additionally, use sunscreen and sunglasses with UV protection whenever possible, so the area will lighten over time. Of course, if it's a matter of genetics, then the only other option is mechanical treatment by a doctor.

BoJ Retinal :)

Have a look at the other reply.

Yes, and you already have the correct order of application.

No :)

yes, you can. But keep in mind it may be drying.

yes

What exactly do you mean by 'making the face worse'? If you're referring to irritation, then yes, that can happen, especially if the strength of the product is too high. It's advisable to start with a low-strength option. For instance, I use Good Molecules Gentle Retinol Cream, which works best for me and might be a good starting point for you as well.

thanks what I mean is some people have said that it increases the acne you have also it shows more inflammation @@MelissaVanDijkOfficial

This only happens if the Retinol or Retinoid is too potent, or your skin may react to an ingredient or the overall formulation of the product. However, the one I've mentioned above is a great lightweight Retinol, and it's low strength :)

thank you very much, your a great help@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial

Hmm, it can make the skin a bit drier. Therefore, some kind of moisturizing product may be useful. However, it depends on how much you use, and if your skin is already a bit dry. So, you need to test it.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thanx 😍♥️

Usually, you would need to see a doctor or dermatologist for this concern. They often prescribe treatments like Hydroquinone, Tretinoin, strong chemical peels, or even laser therapy.

I hope so too!

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial i have a question about this so i use cleanser this and moisturizer and i wanted to ask in which order should i use it?

Cleanser - Caffeine Solution - Moisturizer :)

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial Oh thanks! Also, I like to take a cold shower in the morning and I like to apply cleanser and then wash it off in the shower is it okay to cleanser before showering? then shower for 10 minutes and then apply caffeine solution and moisturizer after showering?

@@Golt__ Yes, that's fine. You can also use your cleanse while showering :)

Applying an ordinary caffeine solution directly to your lips is not advisable because such solutions may be too concentrated and potentially irritating for the sensitive skin of the lips.

Yes, you can use the Nivea cream if it works well for you. However, how much of the caffeine solution do you apply? One drop should be sufficient for both eye contours. Additionally, you can use a hydrating serum, such as a Hyaluronic Acid serum, alongside it. This combination works best for me.

I would do it the other way around or mix them :)

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I've mentioned it in the short... anyway, use it before applying Niacinamide and the rest of your routine :)

yes

It's a pretty drying formulation...

Yes! :)

Yes :)

I think it may become drying when used too often. However, you can try it to see if it works. If not, you need to reduce the frequency.

Yes, it does not have any conflicts.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thank you so much!!

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How much of the product are you applying, and how often? If you're experiencing dryness or irritation, try reducing the amount and frequency of use. You could also apply a hydrating serum, such as a Hyaluronic Acid serum, beforehand to moisturize the area. If these steps don't help, discontinue use of the product and consider trying a different serum or gel formulation.

Well, we cannot say this for sure, but it appears that the effects are primarily temporary and mainly due to hydration.

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This product is too drying and has not been tested for use on the delicate skin around the eyelids. Moreover, the high concentration of the active ingredient can cause significant irritation in the sensitive eye area. Therefore, I strongly advise against using it there, especially if you plan to use it frequently or regularly.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial do you have any eye creams recommendation for eyelids area? i've been looking for this for years and couldn't find one which works. thanks!

@@sylviadecaster I liked the NIOD Fractionated Eye-Contour Concentrate, but currently it is just too expensive. While I haven't tested many eye serum/creams, I'm not the biggest fan of them and I don't often use them often.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thank you for the sharing. very appreciate it xx

@@sylviadecaster

No, it's not meant for the eyelids. It's honestly very drying for that area, and the concentration is way too high. For dark eyelids, it's best to consult a doctor.

No, as it can cause sensitivities. The active ingredient amount is too high, and it may be a bit irritating because it contains caffeine. Therefore, do not use it on the eyelids.

Yes, however, I wouldn't recommend it as it can become pretty drying over time.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial ohh, tysm for ur reply. Ur new subscriber here❤️

Applying caffeine solutions directly to the eyelids is not generally recommended due to the potential for irritation and the sensitivity of the skin in that area. Firstly, the skin on our eyelids is incredibly thin and sensitive, meaning it can easily be irritated by substances that might not cause a reaction on other parts of the body. If caffeine solution enters the eyes, it may cause discomfort, burning, or redness. Secondly, caffeine is a vasoconstrictor, which means it tightens blood vessels. While this might be beneficial for reducing puffiness under the eyes, it could potentially lead to problems like dry skin or irritation if applied directly to the eyelid.

Use it consistently and observe how your skin responds to it. If everything goes well, you can keep using it as long as you feel the need. Over time, you may want to use it less often to maintain the improvements.

When applying it in the morning, leave it on your skin for the entire day until you wash your face again in the evening as part of your skincare routine before going to bed.

use it before :) as it is a water-based serum.

For what concern did you use it? 🤔

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial for puffy and dark under eye circles

@@user-wu2we3vq9r I can't test the product for these concerns, but it is mostly genetics or related to food/sleep. So for how many months did you use the product? And how often did you use it? And have you done before and after pictures?

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial hm, isn’t caffeine targeted at these concerns though? Does it mean that I’ve wasted my money by using the product on my undereye concerns? Also, I used it from October to December 2022, once a day in the morning on my under eyes only. no before and after pictures

@@user-wu2we3vq9r Well I just checked the new and "improved Ordinary website", which changes in a way that I do not like. BUT before they had the following on there website: Notes: 1. Hollowness in the eye contour as a result of structure of sub-dermal tissues like fat and bone can result in visible shadows under the eyes. This shadow, which is not to be mistaken for dark circles, cannot be addressed with topical skincare including this formula. 2. Fat deposits under the eye contour can create permanent puffiness in this area. This type of deposit cannot be improved with topical skincare, including this formula. 3. Supplied in UV-protective packaging as EGCG is sensitive to light. Here is the link: web.archive.org/web/20210128115338/theordinary.deciem.com/product/rdn-caffeine-solution-5pct-egcg-30ml (takes a bit to open, give it some time, ideally with WIFI)

Yes :)

yes, you can.

It's just meant for the eye contour.

After applying the Caffeine Solution and allowing it to absorb into the skin, follow up with TO Niacinamide serum. See here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n795gtmh2KqwlGw.htmlsi=DO0-fYYteER48aYA

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thank you❤️

use it before, its a serum.

Hmm, it should not be used on the eyelashes.

The Ordinary Caffeine Solution 5% + EGCG is designed primarily for use under the eyes to help reduce puffiness and dark circles. It is not recommended for use on the eyelids because the skin there is very delicate and thin, making it more susceptible to irritation. Additionally, applying products too close to the eyes can lead to accidental exposure which may cause discomfort or harm.

Both of those products can be drying on the skin, so if you choose to use that combination, it's important to consider using a moisturizer afterward. Otherwise, your skin is likely to become dry like a desert after some time. :)

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thank you for taking the time to reply!!

I do not know this, and I doubt anyone does since it was never tested 🙁 But if you stored it correctly, it shouldn't be an issue. But using it for months after the date has passed may not be a good idea. And I am from Luxembourg.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thank you! Then I will try it, but can I use this for my face then? Cause using it only for the eye area will take a lot of time to finish this product.

@@winxdreaming9057 Yes, I have such a video: Can I use The Ordinary Caffeine Solution on the Face?: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbygg9l3mLnNkXk.html

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thank you !! I'll watch it

Hi, Can I use it more than twice a day? I think I can't consume all of it for 3 months because its for eye area only

What are your skin concerns?

The Ordinary Caffeine Solution 5% + EGCG is designed primarily for use under the eyes to help reduce puffiness and dark circles. It is not recommended for use on the eyelids because the skin there is very delicate and thin, making it more susceptible to irritation. Additionally, applying products too close to the eyes can lead to accidental exposure which may cause discomfort or harm.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thanks

Generally, no, unless you live in a particularly hot climate where temperatures are consistently above 25 degrees Celsius.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial great! Thank you for answering! :)

i wouldn't recommend to put the glycolic acid toner under your eyes since it would be super harsh and it would irritate and sensitize the zone. I wouldn't either recommend to apply the glycolic acid toner on your face if you have sensitive skin, but if it doesn't irritate your face you can still use it:)

yes, you can.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial which one should I use first? Vitamin C or caffine serum?

@@sadiamannanshanta6140 which Vitamin C serum do you have? 🤔

Yes, you can use it in the AM and PM as mentioned in the short. However, you do not have to use it twice per day-this depends on your personal preference and needs.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thanks

Yes :)

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial Thank you so much

beauty of joseon eye cream ;)

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial for dark circle?

@@sheulypollas8214 If they are caused by hollowness or genetics, there isn't much you can do about it-at least not with topicals. However, you need to find the underlying cause of your dark circles (like lack of sleep, dehydration, allergies, intolerance, stress, etc.) to improve them. The fastest way to lighten them is using a concealer.

it doesn't matter :)

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial great, thanks!

​@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial should i use toner first?

@@sadiamannanshanta6140 Yes :)

yes, you can.

The caffeine can sometimes be a bit irritating. You could try mixing it with a hydrating serum, like hyaluronic acid. Alternatively, you can use it less frequently. If that does not help, I recommend discontinuing its use.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial Is there an alternative for the same? Because I’m afraid that make my eyes looks bad , you know that burns me

@@walah_xx8689 you could use the ordinary multi peptide eye serum.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thank you soooo much 💗

Well, it could be, depending on the underlying cause.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial wow this is awesome...thanks

you can yes :)

Yes you can! :)

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial oh thank you for that answer! I’m your new sub ❤️

It is an eye serum, so it serves basically the same purpose but has a lighter texture. This lightweight formula is likely to deliver the ingredients more effectively into the skin. However, if the serum feels too drying on your skin, you can follow it up with a lightweight hydrating eye cream. Alternatively, you can use a regular moisturizer that is suitable for your skin type and needs. Yes, you can also use it with Niacinamide.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thank you so much Melissa ❤️

The Ordinary Caffeine Solution is intended for use around the eye contour area, which includes the orbital bone and the under-eye area. However, it is not recommended to be applied directly to the eyelids. The skin on the eyelids is thinner and more sensitive than the skin in the eye contour area. Additionally, applying the solution to the eyelids can potentially cause irritation or discomfort, as well as accidental contact with the eyes, which could cause stinging or burning sensations. If you are looking for an eye serum/cream that can be applied to the eyelids, it is recommended to look for products that are specifically designed for that purpose and have been tested for safety on the eyelids.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thanks a lot 😇

I used it for eyelids its good just don’t put it inside your eyes then you are good also apply sunscreen after this tryvand see it yourself

@@nonomalk6586 thanks It stings bad twice it got in & it was deadly 😭

​@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial can i use cerave eye repair cream with this serum?

It may work well for those with puffiness. However, dark circles often have underlying issues such as lack of sleep, stress, food intolerance, dehydration, etc. In such cases, addressing these concerns can already make a huge difference. However, if they are caused by genetics, hollowness, or thin skin, there isn't much you can do with topical products.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial what is great for dark circles than? does beauty of joeson works?

@@ishiirohilla2154 You need to identify the underlying cause and then treat it accordingly.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial lack of sleep. And stress may be crying

@@ishiirohilla2154 So, the solution would be simple: get more sleep and reduce stress. I mean, you don't need any treatments for this; a change in lifestyle will likely cure it.

yes

I've done a video about it because it was requested, however, I personally wouldn't use it over the entire face.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial I used for 2 days

How's it going so far?

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial 50 50

Let me know how it goes! :)

yes, you can.

Is it actually work on dark circles

​@@riyasolanki3252 Well, you would need to figure out the cause of your dark circles as topical treatments may not properly work if it's due to stress, lack of sleep, genetics, food intolerance, etc...in that sense, you need to change that to see if it changes the eye contour. However, if it's due to hollowness, there isn't much you can do, at least not with topical treatments.

Thanks for guiding me

@@riyasolanki3252

Because it contains a high concentration of caffeine, such high concentrations of active ingredients are generally not meant for the eye area. They can easily dry out the skin, leading to irritation and sensitivities over time.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial So what do you recommend for whitening dark eyelids?

@@n8mare28cj There are professional treatments, such as laser therapy, that might help, but these should be undertaken under the guidance of a doctor.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficialthanks. I guess I’d stick to using moisturizer on my eyelids for the mean time and getting adequate sleep 😅

@@n8mare28cj yes 🙌 And unfortunately, there's not much you can do about that issue except for mechanical treatments. However, using sunscreen whenever you're outdoors can help. Additionally, wearing sunglasses with UV protection is also beneficial.

Perhaps it is a bit dry? And therefore, you notice it more?