How to walk through walls using the 4th Dimension [Miegakure: a 4D game]

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9 жыл бұрын

An explanation of how walking through walls would actually look like if you could move in 4D, using the 4D video-game Miegakure (miegakure.com)
For more details, see this blog post: marctenbosch.com/news/2014/08/...
* We will make more videos explaining the fourth dimension using the game. Subscribe to the channel if you are interested!
* In this game the fourth dimension is not time, it is a fourth dimension of space. So if you count time the game is a 5D game. It is a correct representation of a fourth spatial dimension.
* Yeah it's actually "around" walls, not "through!"
* There are infinitely many 3D worlds stacked on top of each other, even if in the introductory Wall Level the ground texture makes it seem like there are only two. A more complex example is the shape at the beginning of the trailer, which is a true 4D shape called the 120 Cell, as explained here: marctenbosch.com/news/2014/04/...
* From the perspective of a regular 3D observer standing next to the wall the player character would suddenly disappear, and a few moments later reappear on the other side of the wall.
* See also: Flatland (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland)
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@lucagacy
@lucagacy 8 жыл бұрын
So that's where my keys went.
@sci2083
@sci2083 7 жыл бұрын
Luca Gacy and that's where mom found it
@Exevium
@Exevium 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing is lost until mom can't find it :')
@gazelle1467
@gazelle1467 7 жыл бұрын
Oh finally I found my car keys I didn't even break my nose this time wow
@Web720
@Web720 7 жыл бұрын
Sander Kamp Funny it's opposite. My mom and me always loose stuff and my dad is the only one who searches deep to find it.
@PhoenixPalmer88
@PhoenixPalmer88 7 жыл бұрын
Gazelle Samyueru YES. I LOVE YOU.
@DigGil3
@DigGil3 7 жыл бұрын
You spent so much time explaining the 4th dimension the thief got away!
@googelplussucksys5889
@googelplussucksys5889 7 жыл бұрын
And it only took us two years to notice it!
@xfactoid
@xfactoid 7 жыл бұрын
@Googelplus 4th dimension strikes again!
@5potato5
@5potato5 7 жыл бұрын
FUCKING MIND FREAK WITH HERE QUIT BREAKING THE 4TH WALL
@supersanttu7951
@supersanttu7951 7 жыл бұрын
GTA Player You mean the 3-dimensional wall?
@rasilu93
@rasilu93 7 жыл бұрын
But what if the 4th dimension IS time?
@DT_Worlds_Strongest_Goth
@DT_Worlds_Strongest_Goth 5 жыл бұрын
This game looks like it would get confusing as hell in later levels
@nabidiboyjones6567
@nabidiboyjones6567 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly how would a new player get over the wall if he couldn’t understand where he was in terms of the wall in the desert. He would just do trial and error which wouldn’t help in later levels
@floorpuncher3280
@floorpuncher3280 5 жыл бұрын
I thought you said water levels, but that too.
@anandsuralkar2947
@anandsuralkar2947 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@bee5120
@bee5120 5 жыл бұрын
I think this game implies that "time" is the 4th dimension: the ground with grass eventually erodes into a desert and the wall also eventually crumbles with the passing of time.
@cryingwater
@cryingwater 5 жыл бұрын
@@bee5120 it was said it isn't. If this is sarcasm then it's bad
@nastykhan7746
@nastykhan7746 5 жыл бұрын
50% of comments - People understand exactly what's the idea of multiple dimensions. 50% of comments - People having no damn clue the hell is going on.
@onionmaster7673
@onionmaster7673 4 жыл бұрын
@Manuel Yes, pretty much. Like in real life.
@pokr2934
@pokr2934 4 жыл бұрын
Then I'm the retard thanks
@Mcdonalds-Cheeseburger
@Mcdonalds-Cheeseburger 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly balanced, as all Things should be
@dhjoubert39
@dhjoubert39 20 күн бұрын
50% of people have a below average IQ?
@thechozopandash
@thechozopandash 7 жыл бұрын
So this is less like walking through walls and more like walking around walls in a direction that we can't comprehend, if I understand correctly.
@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039
@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, just around it
@matthewnoland4415
@matthewnoland4415 6 жыл бұрын
Sure but it makes sense mathematically, perhaps think of it as time and that your walking through the object after or before its existence. Of course this isn't the only way of think of a fourth dimension but I find that it works for a more familiar understanding of 4D
@thechozopandash
@thechozopandash 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Noland I get how this can exist and my original comment was not meant to find fault per say, by comprehend i don't mean understand so much as perceive. This meaning that we are going in a direction that we, as three dimensional beings spatially, cannot fully wrap our minds around. Thus we only see a small amount of the bigger picture.
@der8265
@der8265 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Noland well that's where there are 2 paths, either the timeline dimension or another direction. Both possible theories.
@HuchiaZ
@HuchiaZ 6 жыл бұрын
Being as time is generally labeled as the 4th dimension I'd say colloquially that makes sense. Though it's more just 'time travel', as mentioned. I walk through the wall because it is not there [in a different time].
@Vector3Gaming
@Vector3Gaming 7 жыл бұрын
People are getting confused by the rubble thinking that it's time travel. The rubble is not important. It doesn't need to be there at all, it could have been flat ground. The point is that he went around the wall by travelling along a different axis, a 4th axis. When the scene changed from the wall to the rubble, he didn't time travel, rather he rotated his view around an axis that you can't perceive, but it's still there. So he's looking at a different space, one where the wall doesn't block. He then travelled along that axis, travelled along some 3D axis as well and when he rotated his view back to it's original position, he was in a different 3D space.
@renansilva3879
@renansilva3879 7 жыл бұрын
Most of us don't know how 4D would look like, it's conpreensible everyone here is thinking this game is 4D, but it is not. Is more like he used time travel to reach the other of the wall when the wall was not there.
@TheAlexLangner
@TheAlexLangner 7 жыл бұрын
CrackKat Okay, but let's say that the fourth dimension is indeed time. This means that the man could travel forwards and backwards through this time dimension. This simulation treats the fourth dimension as if it were made up of different worlds, so you can travel to a certain point on that fourth axis to a world that doesn't have the wall, go through the empty space, and travel back. So if we treated this fourth dimension as time, it could work in a similar way: we would have two choices, go forwards in time and go backwards in time. If we go forwards, we would stop at a time where the wall has been destroyed or something, cross the empty space, and go back. If we go backwards, we could go to a time where the wall hasn't been built yet, cross the empty space, and return.
@renansilva3879
@renansilva3879 7 жыл бұрын
Alexander Langner Recently I watched a video about the 11 dimensions and finally I understand that there's different interpretations of dimensions above 3. Some theories even consider 20+ dimensions. This theory you're talking about is the same that garantee the existence of parallel universes, that being the fifty dimension. If I am correct, the seventh or eighth dimension is where you have an universe with all its possibles timelines in one point. Then there's another one that states that there's alternative universes with different laws of physics. Dude, science is amazing.
@TheAlexLangner
@TheAlexLangner 7 жыл бұрын
Renan Silva Yeah, and when we get past the first three dimensions, it really stops becoming about space because there can't be any more spacial dimensions, at least in our universe. And so the farther we go into the dimensions, the less and less likely they are to be real.
@Yungmarkz
@Yungmarkz 7 жыл бұрын
in this dimension you misspelled "further".
@thesovietflaganthemguy2344
@thesovietflaganthemguy2344 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a 3D game running on 2D screen designed to explain a 4D World
@gabrielfuhr5964
@gabrielfuhr5964 2 жыл бұрын
no, it's a 4D game where you can only see 3D slices of it while looking through a 2D screen
@jeremiahnoar7504
@jeremiahnoar7504 5 жыл бұрын
Programmer: computer, make 3 dimensions Computer: DONE! Programmer: computer ,make 4 dimensions Computer: DONE! Programmer: but how did you do that when the universe is only 3 dimensional? Computer: What the hell is a universe?
@iknosabuk
@iknosabuk 5 жыл бұрын
That computer is beyond what we can comprehend! *-*
@avalon4352
@avalon4352 5 жыл бұрын
universe is 4dimension
@zachjohnson1289
@zachjohnson1289 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda makes sense that they could do that because computers are already making projections of 3 dimensions even though the screen is really only two dimensional.
@midbell
@midbell 4 жыл бұрын
i think about this a lot
@Kromiball
@Kromiball 4 жыл бұрын
@@iknosabuk Hey, this comment seems familiar.
@jonathino001
@jonathino001 8 жыл бұрын
super paper mario, intense edition.
@doppled
@doppled 7 жыл бұрын
super paper mario but on drugs
@ZetHololo
@ZetHololo 7 жыл бұрын
it's actually more like fez
@Fiery_F_Flare
@Fiery_F_Flare 7 жыл бұрын
Ultra Paper Mario, coming to your Nintendo Hyper Cube.
@CapsAndBeanies
@CapsAndBeanies 7 жыл бұрын
coming soon only on xcube 364 s
@radilime
@radilime 7 жыл бұрын
Ultimate Flat Luigi, now for Sega PlayTessaract.
@marcelofonseca184
@marcelofonseca184 7 жыл бұрын
Take a shot everytime you read a comment saying the fourth dimension is time.
@gambosa2003
@gambosa2003 6 жыл бұрын
Does this comment count?
@CowandCo
@CowandCo 6 жыл бұрын
no you didn't say that the fourth dimension was time. But marcelodiedara's comment counts :)
@MidnightSt
@MidnightSt 6 жыл бұрын
it is. *the fourth spatial dimension is time.* only reason why we normally think of it as something special is because we can't control, or properly percieve, our movement through it. when you think about it, it's not so dissimilar to "height", which all people kind of percieve as something special as well - we are used to moving along 2 dimensions, and we don't really (at least within the context of earth's gravity) have control over our movement along the third one (height) - you step out from a cliff, you fall down, regardless of what you try to do. spatial dimension same as any other, but percieved as special by limited human mind just because we don't have the same level of control over our movement along it. that's basically what the "temporal" in "fourth dimension is 'temporal'" means. it's just "we can't consciously control our position and movement within it". otherwise, as far as I know, it's the same as the previous three, even within physics.
@-nathun8507
@-nathun8507 6 жыл бұрын
marcelodiedara call the paramedics
@EvandroLBL
@EvandroLBL 6 жыл бұрын
pew pew pew
@iridium9512
@iridium9512 5 жыл бұрын
Oh god. This is the first time I saw someone do 4d properly. And make a game around it as well. I have thought about 4d space many times and while I could understand it, I could never get intuition for it. In other words I would always have to think a lot to figure it out. I feel as if this game could be very interesting and very confusing at the same time. Or.. just as I like it!
@stealthasf6903
@stealthasf6903 5 жыл бұрын
But steel’s heavier than feathers... I don’t get it
@Aisyen
@Aisyen 5 жыл бұрын
Baht steel is heavieh than fethahs...
@Ouryuu-Zenokun
@Ouryuu-Zenokun 5 жыл бұрын
lohk at teh size o dat thinn tats cheatinn
@lcdream4213
@lcdream4213 5 жыл бұрын
ill try to explain so when you are a 2d character and for some reason cant jump and there is a wall in front of you but then you got in the 3d and you move forward and backwards but the wall is one block thicc you can go right through it because up down u know? alright now just put that as being a stupid 3d organism and you can some how shift to the 4d SIDE NOTE:we probably think that 4d is time but there is other people who call it a "tesseract" so if you want to be weird you can call it going through the 5d
@Ayelis
@Ayelis 5 жыл бұрын
@Xilo Two pounds of feathers is twice as heavy as one pound of steel, what are you even talking about?
@forexalised9053
@forexalised9053 5 жыл бұрын
All of you, watch "limmys show, steel feathers" well, the title will look something like that on youtube.
@kulitmed
@kulitmed 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, the final parts of Super Paper Mario got hella intense!
@Wizborg
@Wizborg 7 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that none of the characters in Mario paper would actually be able to see each other until they were side-by-side... If Mario is behind or in front of another character, all they would see is a flat line.. lol
@wapepe_
@wapepe_ 7 жыл бұрын
How would they even know who they were talking to?
@PartisanGamer
@PartisanGamer 7 жыл бұрын
actually in a real 2 d world they would see nothing. nowhere.
@harnageaa
@harnageaa 5 жыл бұрын
@@PartisanGamer I think they would see just one color at a time
@atrius97
@atrius97 9 жыл бұрын
"Third Dimension?! I can't picture that! You're dumb." - Flatlander from Futurama "Forth Dimension?! I can't picture that! You're dumb." - Commenters
@Ignacio.Romero
@Ignacio.Romero 7 жыл бұрын
4th dimension is time
@wlthr
@wlthr 7 жыл бұрын
no, it is not. It's a fourth spatial dimension. It's a mathematical concept, not physical one. A, 1d object is a bunch of 0D objects stacked togheter(a line is a bunch of poins), a 2d object is infinitely many 1d objects stacked up (square is (not an empty square), is a bunch of lines togheter), a 3d object is a bunch of 2D objects togheter(a cube is a bunch of squares stacked togheter), a 4d object is a bunch of 3D objects togheter(a hypercube is a bunch of cubes togheter). The only difference between the fourth dimension and the other ones is that we can't see or imagine full objects in the fourth dimension, only it's shadows in 3D space, which are not plane shadows, like our, but shadows that have volume.
@Ignacio.Romero
@Ignacio.Romero 7 жыл бұрын
Walther Wennholz Johnson Things can move through time, as 2d objects can move through the 3rd one
@wlthr
@wlthr 7 жыл бұрын
Ignacio Romero never said they couldn't. But that is not the case here. if it were the case, then at the beginning, when we see him moving inside a 4d 120-cell, his ambient would get "older" or "younger", but the only thing that happens are spatial changes. If you can't grasp the concept of a 4d space, then I will not lose my time with you. Try to understand this again after studying some maths.
@86Corvus
@86Corvus 7 жыл бұрын
You are a dumb person who thinks this makes sense because to you inteligent concept or thaught is indistinguishable from magic
@charKT-7461
@charKT-7461 5 жыл бұрын
_Meanwhile in an alternate universe_ So basically we can walk through walls using the 8th dimension, and we're just characters on a 7D-plane?
@MrKeene-zz8bv
@MrKeene-zz8bv 4 жыл бұрын
Not like that... But just like that.
@pz1176rck
@pz1176rck 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like people in twin towers in that universe are safe and sound.
@Xedlord
@Xedlord 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that just be the 7th dimension, not an alternate universe?
@Syuvinya
@Syuvinya 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xedlord But our universe only has 3 macroscopic spatial dimensions
@LouseGrouse
@LouseGrouse 3 жыл бұрын
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS VIDEO I LOST IT AND COULD NEVER FIND IT AGAIN
@Spark31Gaming
@Spark31Gaming 7 жыл бұрын
I hope people realize that the rubble in the secondary third dimensional plane is more of a game design decision than real science. The main reason it's there is so the player has an easier time understanding exactly where the wall was in the parallel third dimension with the wall in it so they wouldn't have to constantly switch dimensions in order to find where it is.
@onlinepanic2036
@onlinepanic2036 6 жыл бұрын
Tyler Johns PIGGY pet duh piggeh love duh piggeh BURN DUH PIGGEH
@maxfmfdm
@maxfmfdm 6 жыл бұрын
well if the 4th dimension was linked to the first 3 in a similar way that we are used to then there would be some patterns resembling this. for our universe it is hard to say this would be the case though because we don't see parts of walls crumbling into nowhere and our everyday interactions that we can mediate don't cross another dimension in easily perceivable ways. but if for example our forces are manifest through higher dimensional structures / patterns like string theory then we could see patterns across the higher dimensions. hard to conjecture on what those things are though. if we do have knowledge of it, it is not public
@RpTheHotrod
@RpTheHotrod 5 жыл бұрын
If somehow objects had the ability to traverse across dimensions, then the debris would make sense. Good luck explaining how inanimate objects would have that capability, though.
@guillermoc7736
@guillermoc7736 5 жыл бұрын
@@RpTheHotrod there's nothing special about living or inanimate objects. In this case the wall just broke partially. It originally covered both slices, but when it broke it fell on the other slice (the dessert one).
@zephon13
@zephon13 2 жыл бұрын
lol the fact that you used the word real science in your comment is laughable.
@gamefoun
@gamefoun 7 жыл бұрын
basically 4th dimension is a lot of 3rd dimensional planes pancaked together, it is like 3d that is just a lot of 2d planes pancaked together and 2d with 1d
@17MrLeon
@17MrLeon 7 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who can comprehend what 4th dimention is.
@gamefoun
@gamefoun 7 жыл бұрын
this videos has helped me with this a lot, I heard that it is cool to see 4D object with VR headseat and interact with it, I hope I will have a chance to do it sometimes :)
@gamefoun
@gamefoun 7 жыл бұрын
that also helped me
@nadyanayme
@nadyanayme 7 жыл бұрын
marctenbosch.com/news/2017/06/4d-toys-a-box-of-four-dimensional-toys/ From the same creator.
@gamefoun
@gamefoun 7 жыл бұрын
Nadya Nayme that's also very interesting video, thanks for sharing
@antho57400
@antho57400 4 жыл бұрын
0:45 You should put some levels of this 3D version in your game, it would be a good introduction to the mechanics. Also how is it going?
@unlimitededge2689
@unlimitededge2689 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why people think the fourth dimension is time - it’s just another space. It reminds me of in Flatland when the Square is trying to explain the 3rd dimension to his 2D son. “It’s like our normal directions, but we can move up... not like north, but... up” That’s how 4D works, we just add an extra dimension. We can move “up” from the 2D plane but not in the way we think of up Better example would be the crosssection explanation. For example, if you were to take a Tesseract (the 4D version of our cube) and drop it into our third dimension, it would appear as if the cube is changing sizes. It sounds weird but it’s like the MRI scan showed in the video - the brain is a 3D structure but we are only seeing 2D cross sections, thus it appears as if it’s changing and morphing in size.
@ariezon
@ariezon 5 жыл бұрын
We found those video back from 2013 if I'm not mistaken while we're drunk, and I think that's where they get the idea.
@aripent
@aripent 5 жыл бұрын
I love flatland
@fame6442
@fame6442 5 жыл бұрын
The “4th” dimension is nothing like a 4th dimension should be labeled as, this is more like a alternate relate that exists non comprehend able on the same plane, this is what Hollywood would call an alternate dimension not the 4th
@mattrowlands5751
@mattrowlands5751 5 жыл бұрын
Well the theory is that time seems to behave just like any other dimension. You can have length, position, velocity etc. We behave differently through time compared to the other dimensions, as we have a set speed as if we were on some kind of time train. If you think of a 2d world with time as the third dimension represented on a graph it would just look like a regular 3d graph, and then think of a graph with 4 axis it might make sense.
@cryingwater
@cryingwater 5 жыл бұрын
@@mattrowlands5751 well, if you add a time dimension in a 4D spacial dimension. It's the same as 3D + 1 Time D
@asiriomi
@asiriomi 7 жыл бұрын
I expected to see in the comments a bunch of compliments on how amazing this game could be, but instead I saw people who have no idea what they're talking about arguing about what the 4th dimension really is. I think this feature could really make a unique and entertaining game. You also explained the situation really well using 2D and 3D examples.
@Sharpie473
@Sharpie473 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Hollomon That's what I was thinking also. It could make for a very interesting puzzle game but I feel that a game like that exists already.
@TallicaMan1986
@TallicaMan1986 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Hollomon Its not that unique. Mario Party and Paper Mario essentially has this. In Mario Party there are 2d aspects in the game such as Drawing, or birds eye view. Legend of Zelda and Paper Mario did the switching between 2d and 3d awhile back.
@philjones5519
@philjones5519 6 жыл бұрын
That game would be too danm hard
@garethlawton5278
@garethlawton5278 6 жыл бұрын
The 4th dimension is time. This is irrefutable.
@procletnic
@procletnic 6 жыл бұрын
Gareth Lawton - time is not a spatial dimension, mr. Simpleton.
@Anistuffs
@Anistuffs 9 жыл бұрын
This is, hands down, the best explanation of 4D movement I've ever encountered :D
@DanielQZ
@DanielQZ 9 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@ReFreezed
@ReFreezed 9 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more.
@rango3526
@rango3526 9 жыл бұрын
***** It really is.
@MagicGonads
@MagicGonads 8 жыл бұрын
+Anistuffs - The Indian Let's Player It's an explanation of moving through multiverses, but not moving through the 4th dimension. They have a fundamental lack of understanding of how 3D projects into 2D, thus impossible to understand how 4D projects 3D.
@Anistuffs
@Anistuffs 8 жыл бұрын
Magic Gonads Okay. Do you have a link to some site which explains actual 'moving through the 4th dimension' instead of 'moving through multiverses'? I'm not demeaning your opinion BTW, I'm genuinely willing to understand how movement through 4th dimension would work.
@pmangano
@pmangano 5 жыл бұрын
This is insanely hard to even begin to comprehend, but somehow someone actually designed this......... I am always in awe of how complex of a concept the human mind can comprehend by a coherent learning process
@mynion24100
@mynion24100 5 жыл бұрын
I just imagined 4D minecraft It was very [ERROR : REDACTED]
@arseniy2943
@arseniy2943 4 жыл бұрын
There actually is a Minecraft map inspired by this game called "The Hypercube", which is why I found out about this game in the first place lol. It was pretty hard to grasp at the start, even with the great tutorial provided, but it becomes much clearer as you progress
@daffa_fm4583
@daffa_fm4583 4 жыл бұрын
actually there is a map of 4d minecraft, i've seen a ytber playing the map
@TheDJBrojo
@TheDJBrojo 4 жыл бұрын
Daffa_FM Hypercube
@B58-Minecraft
@B58-Minecraft 3 жыл бұрын
Minecraft have 4 dimensions. The floating blocks and trees are just slices of the 4th dimension shape. Edit: just a theory
@mtbdesignworks
@mtbdesignworks 7 жыл бұрын
*In this game the fourth dimension is not time.* In this game there are four dimensions of space and one of time instead of three dimensions of space and one of time. Just like in the 2D/3D example, both the desert and the grass are happening at the same time, like parallel worlds. In this game, time is the **fifth** dimension! (If you absolutely want to number things)
@poopyharlow8679
@poopyharlow8679 7 жыл бұрын
can u comment link to this game??
@mtbdesignworks
@mtbdesignworks 7 жыл бұрын
The game is not out yet but you can subscribe to any of the social media links at the bottom of miegakure.com to know when it is out!
@DunkeysLongLostSon
@DunkeysLongLostSon 7 жыл бұрын
Then what dimension is time? Because time is clearly passing. Is it the fifth?
@mtbdesignworks
@mtbdesignworks 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah! In this game, time is the *fifth* dimension!
@georgewl
@georgewl 7 жыл бұрын
some guys say it's not a dimension, as it affects all dimensions equally.
@DreamerTrain
@DreamerTrain 9 жыл бұрын
I understood it on 2D to 3D but I can't conceive it on 3D to 4D...
@SMTDDR
@SMTDDR 9 жыл бұрын
The last ep of StarTrek TNG "We wanted to see if you had the ability to expand your mind and your horizons - And for one brief moment you did. For that one fraction of a second you were open to options you had never considered. That is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars or studying nebulae - but charting the unknown possibilities of existence."
@ISerathI
@ISerathI 9 жыл бұрын
It's hard to understand the latter because we cannot percieve the 4º dimention with our sensorial organs. It's hard to conceive something that cannot be seen on our plane. This video might help you, if you want to understand more: Imagining the Tenth Dimension part 1 of 2
@YotaXP
@YotaXP 9 жыл бұрын
Another way to think about the 4th dimension is time itself. Let's say the wall is in your way, but you can travel through time (the 4th dimension). You travel to the past, before the wall was built. Now you can cross to the other side, but the girl is no longer there. At this point, you "simply" travel back to the future, (Great scott!) and you're together. This game is about 4 spatial dimensions, though, so this means of thinking may not apply to all puzzles.
@Nauskills
@Nauskills 9 жыл бұрын
It's totally normal, I have myself (and most of us) some difficulties to understand it. Even with 3D programs, it still look really weird. But that's because we use a 2D surface to represent a 3D object from the 4th dimension...
@inkajoo
@inkajoo 9 жыл бұрын
It's actually really simple. I'll explain through analogy. You know time. Time is thought of sometimes as a 4th dimension. Notice how as you move through time things change, and if you could move back in time you'd be moving in the other direction in that dimension, but because it's time you can't. BUT, if we were able to traverse a 4th SPACIAL dimension (which isn't necessarily incompatible with time!) then you could see 3D things "change" in bizarre ways that have nothing to do with cause-and effect, and you could move back and forth on the 4th spacial axis freely, unlike time. It may be that our universe is stuck on an impenetrable 4-dimensional sphere and that's why we never see this happening, because we are locked into our 3D existence like a 2D drawing on a piece of paper.
@wuznab5109
@wuznab5109 5 жыл бұрын
In mother Russia, wall walks through you.
@momon4868
@momon4868 5 жыл бұрын
Stfu
@hithere7080
@hithere7080 5 жыл бұрын
@@momon4868 StFu
@TactfulWaggle
@TactfulWaggle 5 жыл бұрын
@@hithere7080 sTfU
@hithere7080
@hithere7080 5 жыл бұрын
@@TactfulWaggle stFu
@TactfulWaggle
@TactfulWaggle 5 жыл бұрын
@@hithere7080 you're not supposed to reply again, fuck, you ruined it
@GabriTell
@GabriTell 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I literally forgot and remembered this game like 5 times with a lot of time in between and it's still not finished (what the hell's going on, man?) 😔
@rousefire
@rousefire 6 жыл бұрын
I just tried this and it didnt work . The wall was still there .
@jay-tbl
@jay-tbl 5 жыл бұрын
r/whoooosh
@shiromi1
@shiromi1 5 жыл бұрын
@BeanJohnAlzahrani nah take this uno reverse card
@stealthasf6903
@stealthasf6903 5 жыл бұрын
It's a wooshception
@timeforrick5413
@timeforrick5413 5 жыл бұрын
what fuck
@pacmandrugs
@pacmandrugs 5 жыл бұрын
try harder
@Schenkel101
@Schenkel101 7 жыл бұрын
I tried explaining a theoretical 4th dimension to a few friends of mine, and their mind was blown, but every time I see a demonstration of how intricate 3d really is my mind gets blown again. This game looks amazing.
@godlyvex5543
@godlyvex5543 6 жыл бұрын
When I tried explaining it to my friends, and they were arguing about whether the fourth dimension was time, or the soul. They didn't even consider the possibility of it being a direction.
@chappie3642
@chappie3642 4 жыл бұрын
@@godlyvex5543 the soul? Lmaooo
@018FLP
@018FLP 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the concept, the explanation and the distortion effect when you change dimensions!
@MidnightSt
@MidnightSt 6 жыл бұрын
it's possible that I've already commented this here (multiple times, in fact), but this is (still) the best explanation of extra dimensions I've ever found. i mean, besides "imagining the 10th dimension" series, but that one goes much further, and with a different intention, and focuses on a different point of view on the whole thing.
@gabrieli7774
@gabrieli7774 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe a 2 dimensional being is making a 3D game at the moment... Or a 4 dimensional being is making a 5D game.
@tempjohn3510
@tempjohn3510 6 жыл бұрын
The thing is where the fuck are 2d beings in the universe?
@Mareritt
@Mareritt 6 жыл бұрын
And a 5th-dimensional being has completed, has not started, and is still making a 6D game.
@PHeMoX
@PHeMoX 6 жыл бұрын
Technically speaking the rendering of all of this still remains 2D as far as our physical reality goes..... We're projecting on a computer screen, we're not '3D printing real worlds' so to speak.
@benjamming883
@benjamming883 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, Maybe we are that 3D game.. or maybe we are a retro game that 4D beings play on their nintendo.
@zsurvivalist7996
@zsurvivalist7996 6 жыл бұрын
BenAddict19 that's one top quality A rated game
@unspokendg
@unspokendg 7 жыл бұрын
I've been sitting here for 10 minutes trying to think of the 4th dimension without time. Then it clicked when I remembered that the rubble wasn't from a degrading wall but rubble that fell off the current(still there wall)wall into the 4th dimension. Holy smokes I'm glad I figured this out
@mtbdesignworks
@mtbdesignworks 7 жыл бұрын
Good job! People here sure get confused about that...
@matthewnoland4415
@matthewnoland4415 6 жыл бұрын
Miegakure just because the transition has a directional effect whose to say it's not time. I believe the time is just as directional as space. Perhaps I'm over looking something, but can the wall really crumble from a 3D plane of existence into a 4D plane without time being involved if so how?
@adityapermana9651
@adityapermana9651 6 жыл бұрын
I see it!! Thanks mate
@RED40HOURS
@RED40HOURS 6 жыл бұрын
UnspokenDG so are you saying that some rubble got into a parallel world?
@PursuitSk8
@PursuitSk8 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Noland a wall that appeared 2d to that character can have rubble fall in 3 dimensions. I dont see why it couldn't fall into a fourth.
@Camille-hy4pz
@Camille-hy4pz 2 жыл бұрын
I completely grasped the idea of walking along 4th axis that we are not able to comprehend. I first watched this video a few years ago and I still rewatch it from time to time because this is so far the most precise and colorful explanation for people who are not specialists in geometry. And still I can understand people who are excited about the idea that this is time travel. This is indeed a very attractive yet deceptive idea, and for us, people, it’s hard to get rid of wrong ideas that explain something perfectly (as it seems to us). I also would like to know whether there is a connection between non-Euclidean geometry and the 4th dimension - maybe other people commenting this video have more profound knowledge than I do - it’d be great to hear your explanation.
@xelacyza
@xelacyza 2 жыл бұрын
This made me understand it now.. Thank you. I have been trying to find a video to really explain HOW this works, like this game did. At first I was looking at clips of some gameplay and I was not understanding anything, but this video again, cleared some levels of confusion. Can't wait to see in the future timeline if we get to experience more 4 dimensional nature.
@Coti5432
@Coti5432 9 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that understands what's going on in this game? I'm in awe about the idea of this.
@TheHuggableEmpire
@TheHuggableEmpire 8 жыл бұрын
+Coti5432 What about the ones who created this game? Do they understand what's going on?
@baertomeneguzzi9181
@baertomeneguzzi9181 8 жыл бұрын
+Coti5432 I get this! I'm so happy that i can even comprehend some of this concept.
@mattomanx77
@mattomanx77 9 жыл бұрын
Off topic: I love everyone being utterly confused about 4d being time. Hes talking about spacial dimentions On topic: Interesting, Its taking me a while, but I can almost entirely understand how it would work. If he were to stand on the direct middle point of the two "Dimensions," things might get a little weird (Being only 1 across)
@vespira6342
@vespira6342 9 жыл бұрын
You could still consider the 4th dimension in this game being time. Considering the wall example, you move backwards in time to a point before the wall was created, walk to the "other side", then switch back to the present. You could also move to the future, to a point where the wall has decayed and crumbled and the vegetation has died, much like in the example, and walk across the rubble before returning to the present.
@mattomanx77
@mattomanx77 9 жыл бұрын
***** Not really, this is just a bad example. And if you did call time the fourth, what would you call the next spacial dimension up? There was an example where a ring was moved 4 dimensionaly. wouldn't changing something in earlier times cause holes in logic? I.e. moving the ring forward in time would cause it to never have to be moved in the first place. All in all, its just simpler to say "4 Spacial Dimensions and 1 Time dimension"
@KoreaRwkz
@KoreaRwkz 9 жыл бұрын
Matthew Davis Wow actually it would make sense if the 4th dimension in the game was time, because of the rubble that presumably is the collapse of the wall that will happen in the future. There was no reason why there would be a pile of rubble there if the 4th dimension was spacial, unless the 2nd 3D world that he stepped into just so happened to have a line of rubble where the wall would be in the original 3D world.
@mattomanx77
@mattomanx77 9 жыл бұрын
brandon tan A time travel game would be kinda cool. But still, Time and Space should be represented as separate dimension "sets"
@anastasiadunbar5246
@anastasiadunbar5246 9 жыл бұрын
***** "Considering the wall example, you move backwards in time to a point before the wall was created" ...I know what you think but it isn't that. It's like 3-D worlds/matrixes/slices in a row, you can move back and fourth but your X-Y-Z position stays the same while the W changes.
@soraraper1
@soraraper1 6 жыл бұрын
And my brain made BOOOOM!!!!
@B58-Minecraft
@B58-Minecraft 3 жыл бұрын
cool
@michael-il2by
@michael-il2by 5 жыл бұрын
I've watched a few 4D vids now and this one brought it home. Thanks.
@SouLinkedK
@SouLinkedK 9 жыл бұрын
From reading the comments, I think society is not prepared for this kind of game yet.
@Factory360
@Factory360 7 жыл бұрын
mrik
@nickmagrick7702
@nickmagrick7702 7 жыл бұрын
well the creator isnt really making it exactly like how it would be either. so. makes it confusing
@84updown
@84updown 7 жыл бұрын
I know right? How dare society not be able to imagine life in four dimensions!
@televikkuntdaowuxing
@televikkuntdaowuxing 7 жыл бұрын
Eiahfou It's not that, it's fine if you don't understand, but people (understood as the masses) tend to not even wanting to understand, they don't try to connect, and if they think an aspect of the concept they're trying to understand is wrong will immediately believe they are right, the postmodern society recesses philosophy (first philosophy, then the understanding of these concepts). And of course they also can't and don't want to understand it.
@randomuser-vs3oe
@randomuser-vs3oe 7 жыл бұрын
You dont play a puzzle game by first knowing how to solve each puzzle, you learn as you go. There is no "preparation" that needs to be made before this game can be played.
@DADchs13
@DADchs13 8 жыл бұрын
uh...I still dont get what happening lol. Someone help, I understood the 2D/3D comparison but was immediately lost again back in the 4th dimension.
@mtbdesignworks
@mtbdesignworks 8 жыл бұрын
+DLuX I think as long as you get the 2D/3D, you mostly get it. There's not much more to it besides "it's somehow the same."
@migueeeelet
@migueeeelet 8 жыл бұрын
+Miegakure I'd rather think about it like some portal to a parallel world where stuff is basically the same, but also different. In this case, the wall's just rubble now, and when you come back, you're at the other side.
@batfan1939
@batfan1939 8 жыл бұрын
+DLuX He essentially time-traveled to when the wall was so old that it had disintegrated, and then walked across the boundary left behind by the wall, then "rewound" time to his starting position. Another way to think about it is the KZfaq progress bar. The progress bar represents your current position in a video, but not a spatial position! Instead, it uses space to represent time. At the start of the player character's video, let's say January 1st, 1410, there is a wall blocking his path. Where normally there is nothing the player could do, in this game you can control the time period you're in, and so you can "fast forward" to, say, May 5th, 2235. At that point, the wall has turned to rubble, so you cross said rubble, and "rewind" back to January 1st, 1410. The player controls this using space, just like they do with the KZfaq progress bar, by first moving it "forward" (to the right in a video), then back (to the left). In the game, this is represented by turning in a "new," temporal direction. Movement keys don't move you up/down, left/right or forward/backward, but instead before/after. I hope this explanation helped.
@steveRoll595
@steveRoll595 8 жыл бұрын
+batfan1939 That is a pretty logical explanation... but I still don't believe that the first three dimensions are directions, and everything above the third is not a direction. Flat creatures would say that the third dimension is time, too.
@migueeeelet
@migueeeelet 8 жыл бұрын
batfan1939 It looks like he time-travelled, but what if nearby there's a desert-y area where the wall crumbled? Prolly a paralel dimension where it's like that.
@Peter_1986
@Peter_1986 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone talk about the _4th spatial_ dimension. This is very different from the time dimension, which people often like to bring up. 4D space is sometimes drawn by imagining the 4th dimension as a colour spectrum, which itself is a function of the x-, y- and z-coordinates. This gives you a bit of a feel for different "distances" in the 4th spatial dimension, since you can for example think of "red" as "very close" and "violet" as "very far away".
@ConstantDerivative
@ConstantDerivative Жыл бұрын
yesss, finally someone who understands the difference between the 4th spatial dimension and the temporal dimension lol
@ChrisPlough
@ChrisPlough 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and elegant. I'm looking forward to playing this and seeing how it expands my thought horizons.
@kuskus_th13
@kuskus_th13 6 жыл бұрын
1970s: 2D games 1990s: 3D games 2014: 4D games
@yeetionary
@yeetionary 3 жыл бұрын
2030: 5D games 2060: 6D games 2090: 7D games 2100: 8D games 2130: 9D games 2160: *10D GAMES*
@sergey_a
@sergey_a 3 жыл бұрын
2020: covid-19 games
@B58-Minecraft
@B58-Minecraft 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeetionary 2180s: 11D
@stormy9284
@stormy9284 3 жыл бұрын
9000:113543643789643527386683D games
@GerbNerdLolz
@GerbNerdLolz 6 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the concept of Super Paper Mario for the Wii. That game honestly helped me understand how dimensions worked when I was a younger kid
@bluebitproductions2836
@bluebitproductions2836 6 жыл бұрын
god i need to rebuy that game, so many memories.
@WERT2025
@WERT2025 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea. While today the game looks quite simple, I can't even imagine, how many ways there are to use 4D transformations in a more complex scenarios. Looking forward to play released game, and I hope that this genre will evolve.
@Lmao-ke9lq
@Lmao-ke9lq 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine playing this in VR....confusing lv 10000
@ricardomiloscult7508
@ricardomiloscult7508 7 жыл бұрын
You lost me at hey
@enna6591
@enna6591 8 жыл бұрын
Truly a great example of innovation within games. Watching this video definetly helped me grasp the concept of a 4th dimension.
@1Animeculture
@1Animeculture 6 жыл бұрын
Its so fascinating, it seems so excessively hard to imagine a 4th plane of existence for a 3d person, even when explained so clearly.
@chappie3642
@chappie3642 4 жыл бұрын
Not hard, impossible. You can visualize a 2d projection of a 3d projection of a 4d world though
@hassanqayyum8954
@hassanqayyum8954 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best explanations for 4D honestly
@ColossalZonko
@ColossalZonko 8 жыл бұрын
I understand everything but the most stupid move ever is to make the other side a sand/desert biome, which for a non-4D thinker would look like a new world. a 4D monster would see grass and sand lying next to each other like we did with the 2D example .
@mtbdesignworks
@mtbdesignworks 8 жыл бұрын
+mathias de potter I know what you're saying but the reason for this is to make it easier for players to orient themselves (especially at the beginning of the game) since each world is very recognizable. From lots of playtesting I can confirm this does help. The game breaks this pattern later on: notice the 120 cell at the beginning of the trailer does not have sharp changes in biomes.
@ColossalZonko
@ColossalZonko 8 жыл бұрын
Miegakure that's weird I thought it was making it harder. or a least giving a weird/false impression. but now looking back at you may be right. it contrasts the normal and the 4d translated world.
@LeonisTunes
@LeonisTunes 8 жыл бұрын
+mathias de potter The Grass can still be seen be cause we understand 3D, so we can understand having two 2D worlds one next to the others. having two 3D world one next to the other has no meaning
@LeonisTunes
@LeonisTunes 8 жыл бұрын
+mathias de potter and if you watch till the end, even in the 2D world the grass and desert are not next to each other :)
@ColossalZonko
@ColossalZonko 8 жыл бұрын
Leonis C. euhm yes they are...
@MissyMona
@MissyMona 7 жыл бұрын
I think I finally get it, so I can't see the 4th Dimension because my mind can't comprehend it or isn't able to but I can still see the distortion it makes in the 3D Dimension. The world isn't really changing, it was always like the 3D dimension in the 2D world but because we can't see new possibilities we don't know it's there.
@nacrt1984
@nacrt1984 7 жыл бұрын
One of the few people that understand it.
@ShoobiArt
@ShoobiArt 6 жыл бұрын
Teh_ Wurst Actually, in reality, there aren't four dimensions of objects like this. This game is showing us what it would be like if there was another dimension other than length, width, and height, that all objects had. In reality our fourth dimension is time. So a fourth dimensional object is any object you see in front of you. It is a 3D cutout of a 4D object already, where the fourth dimension is every single spot it has been through time. If we could see a fourth dimension, we would be able to see where it was and where it would be, infinitely. Games like these are good representations of what four dimensions of space would look like if we had them.
@nacrt1984
@nacrt1984 6 жыл бұрын
That is true. But i never said this is not true. I agreed with the top comment, which if you check it, is also true.
@nacrt1984
@nacrt1984 6 жыл бұрын
It is indeed very interesting. But why did you start your sentence with "Actualy"?
@ahmyk9190
@ahmyk9190 6 жыл бұрын
but even if you can see 4th dimension the game would still look the same because it didn't actually render the 4th dimension, just like the 2d game even tho we can see in 3d it still looks weird when it transitions because it doesn't render the 3rd dimension , you can find renderings of the 4th dimension online but it still looks really weird ,you only really get to understand 4d if you use a vr set to interact with it .
@dzmo-official
@dzmo-official 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good visualization at the beginning. Tysm.
@rielitty
@rielitty 5 жыл бұрын
thanks, youtube recommendations!
@culpritdesign
@culpritdesign 7 жыл бұрын
I would play that 2d game so hard. Please make it. Edit: The first part of the game should be the 2d version. That would teach the user the concept.
@mtbdesignworks
@mtbdesignworks 7 жыл бұрын
It's included in the game, but it's not the first part. It actually works better a little bit later, once you can use it to answer any questions tyou might have about the 4D.
@culpritdesign
@culpritdesign 7 жыл бұрын
I'm going to get this game. Looks so good.
@vic5254
@vic5254 7 жыл бұрын
Play Fez
@firstnamelastname7244
@firstnamelastname7244 7 жыл бұрын
jon culp Then you're just playing FEZ.
@CaneFumatore
@CaneFumatore 7 жыл бұрын
Super Paper Mario?
@calimerohnir3311
@calimerohnir3311 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just plain sad realizing that while I understand it a human brain simply isn't wired correctly to visualize it
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 5 жыл бұрын
Lol don't be too hard on yourself. Our universe is 3D (yes, I know time is the 4th dimension but it's not a spatial dimension and is different from the remaining three, and this world has 4 spatial dimensions, unlike ours), which is why our brains comprehend the world in 3D. From an evolutionary perspective, spending precious energy on visualizing something that doesn't even exist is very unfavorable :P
@televikkuntdaowuxing
@televikkuntdaowuxing 5 жыл бұрын
Feynstein 100 Time is NOT the 4th dimension. It’s different from a dimensional layer.
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 5 жыл бұрын
@Mr Leprechaun Dude, I literally said that. Time is not a spatial dimension and you can't move freely in it. Do you even read? 😂
@frostchain2362
@frostchain2362 5 жыл бұрын
@Johannes Dickenson What makes you say that? The conjecture of whether or not time is a dimension seems to be an open question. From our perspective, time is very different from our 3 dimensions of space, but it could be quite different in other circumstances. Photons, as far as we know, don't even experience time.
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 5 жыл бұрын
@Johannes Dickenson Please refrain from insults. They contribute nothing to the discussion and only add toxicity. Now, as far as I know, special relativity proves that we live in a 4-dimensional world with three dimensions of space and one of time. It's in the equation of the invariant space-time interval (x^2 + y^2 + z^2 -(ct)^2 = constant). I don't see how the equation could be interpreted in a way that renders time as not a dimension. Perhaps you know of such an interpretation and wouldn't mind sharing it with us?
@razi_man
@razi_man 2 жыл бұрын
I do not understand how some people do not understand this, his explanation and example made it extremely easy to understand what is going on.
@davidcesarino
@davidcesarino 3 жыл бұрын
One the best explanations of the 4D.
@JadenAccord
@JadenAccord 6 жыл бұрын
Trying to understand 4D completely and picturing it in my head (which doesn't work), makes my head feel like it's going to explode
@bartman5693
@bartman5693 6 жыл бұрын
You're pretty good at explaining things. You'd make a great teacher.
@tomato5920
@tomato5920 3 жыл бұрын
*Yes! Finally a tutorial, I've been looking for this.. now no walls gonna stop me from getting out of quarantine!*
@B58-Minecraft
@B58-Minecraft 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the 4D being purposely place a wall to stop you, so you need 5 dimensional movement to walk through it.
@Gregory_12
@Gregory_12 Жыл бұрын
@@B58-Minecraft And a 5D being places a wall to stop you, so you would need the 6th dimension to walk around it.
@cocoyoung8591
@cocoyoung8591 5 жыл бұрын
Its been a long month before i found this kind of video on how to understand the dimensions based on my level of understanding.. thank you for bringing up this video..
@rnbpl
@rnbpl 7 жыл бұрын
I thought this was going to be one of those esoteric dimensional vids warning me about 6th dimensional bees. Cool game
@trumpverbot7700
@trumpverbot7700 6 жыл бұрын
yeah the 7th, you ignorant fucktard
@theapexsurvivor9538
@theapexsurvivor9538 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the 7th 8the 9th...
@wpw8570
@wpw8570 7 жыл бұрын
You could totally go around that wall, just expand the levels boundaries. Come on game developers, get it together.
@gamefoun
@gamefoun 7 жыл бұрын
what if it's a square wall
@Arkaid11
@Arkaid11 6 жыл бұрын
No, you can imagine the wall has an infinite length, it would still work
@Warm_Ice0
@Warm_Ice0 5 жыл бұрын
Can we just take a moment at how satisfying the transition when you switch dimension?
@sharlottafalls
@sharlottafalls 3 жыл бұрын
This makes so much damn sense, I’m subscribing
@GDZipper
@GDZipper 7 жыл бұрын
I've watched a couple of 4th dimension video's every now and then, you are the first one to make me understand it, good job! :D
@EvilParagon2
@EvilParagon2 7 жыл бұрын
"Imagining the Fourth Dimension" by 10thdim. Good stuff.
@GDZipper
@GDZipper 7 жыл бұрын
lol what do u mean
@JumboDS64
@JumboDS64 7 жыл бұрын
no. here, the 5th dimension is time instead, and the 4th dimension is another spatial one like the first 3.
@EvilParagon2
@EvilParagon2 7 жыл бұрын
It's a video that is very good at explaining the fourth dimension. They guy in the channel has a theory of 10 dimensions, he has step by step videos on how to imagine each of them.
@GDZipper
@GDZipper 7 жыл бұрын
Evil Paragon 2 Ohh I might check it out sometime soon :)
@krusinek
@krusinek 6 жыл бұрын
This is a great explanation! Love the 2D character's perspective. Very enlightening, thank you!
@WingofTech
@WingofTech 5 жыл бұрын
This is a very cool game idea and use of the concept. I hope reta progress is made in this regard. :P
@shake0577
@shake0577 5 жыл бұрын
Although somewhat confusing, it’s the best darn explanation of the 4th dimension I’ve ever heard.
@ZigaZagu
@ZigaZagu 7 жыл бұрын
Can you show what this would look like to a spectator who's fourth dimension was locked? In other words, if the woman was standing on top of the wall watching the man cross it by the 4th, what would she see?
@mtbdesignworks
@mtbdesignworks 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I will do this at some point.
@nickmagrick7702
@nickmagrick7702 7 жыл бұрын
good question.
@Janeator
@Janeator 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's possible to represent that as we cannot really percieve a 4th spatial dimension, if there really is such a thing. But I'm interested to see whatever he comes up with.
@andreihututui2619
@andreihututui2619 7 жыл бұрын
look at what Mario sees when he travels in the 3rd dimension , in his perspective the wall and the girl disappear because he's able to see just a 2D plane which is different than the initial one , same concept applies in the fourth dimension , check out 4D toys cause in that game you observe 4D objects from a 3D perception
@ChalkyWilston
@ChalkyWilston 7 жыл бұрын
ayy Cuni
@camerondavis7518
@camerondavis7518 7 жыл бұрын
it took me a minute, but after realizing the 3d world and 2d world are one and the same I figured out the comparison. it makes sense now
@Linkard
@Linkard 6 жыл бұрын
This is insanely well made
@kanatahiba
@kanatahiba 5 жыл бұрын
The explanation was great o.o this is interesting btw!
@-_Nuke_-
@-_Nuke_- 9 жыл бұрын
Miegakure * In this game the fourth dimension is not time, it is a fourth dimension of space. So if you count time the game is a 5D game. It is a correct representation of a fourth spatial dimension. Exactly!! You seem to know a lot of things about dimensions! Keep it up, we would like to see more videos! :)
@kinghasturFFFF00
@kinghasturFFFF00 8 жыл бұрын
+CornerrecordZ Or a 4+1
@TheHuggableEmpire
@TheHuggableEmpire 8 жыл бұрын
+CornerrecordZ I don't know anything but what if time, as calculated to be the 4th dimension, is because we are calculating in a 3D space so time is an additional vector to that? So, a 4D being would calculate time as being 5D in relation to him.
@kinghasturFFFF00
@kinghasturFFFF00 8 жыл бұрын
Dban One No, as of now, we live in a 3+1 dimensions world, 3 dimensions that behave in the same way, and one that behaves different, Which would be 3 spatial dimensions and 1 time dimension. You just need to add another spatial dimension, and time would be the same, a 4S+1T Or better illustrated by this video /watch?v=M9sbdrPVfOQ
@-_Nuke_-
@-_Nuke_- 8 жыл бұрын
Dban One The general idea of time was... Things are moving, therefore we can measure how much time passed... Or we can relate a constant movement to all the other movements (that constant movement is the clock ticking) and therefore we can express that relation with "seconds". Then we found something... We found that, to be in acceleration or to be in a strong gravitational field ... is the same! To be falling with ever increasing speed (acceleration) at a zero gravitational field is the same as staying stationary (zero acceleration speed) but stationary in a strong enough gravitational field! That changed physics forever! What was the relation of acceleration in zero G with zero acceleration at some amount of G? Einstein understood (from the special relativity) that, speed and gravity change time! A close to lightspeed travel with slow time down. A big enough gravitational field will also slow time down even if there is no acceleration at all. What was the relation? Einstein was thinking for ages when he finally understood how space and time and speed and gravity all come very well together. If you picture time as a dimension and combine it with space. Spacetime! Einstein had discovered General Relativity! He became a Rock star of science! And here is where I also lose the ability to keep up with all this... I'm not really sure if spacetime that was introduced by Einstein had 4 or 3 dimensions of space. But Einstein said that to distinguish space from time has no meaning. That means that we can only have a dimension of spacetime and not a dimension of time or a dimension of space... The way I see it (but I can also be wrong) is that Einstein was talking about another dimension of space, that the only way we can "feel" it "experience" and "measure" it is by introducing time. That "time" is something that doesn't exist (space does exist) and time is the only way for us to understand the 4th dimension of space. But I can also be wrong... I cannot really speak with good certainty...
@nickmagrick7702
@nickmagrick7702 7 жыл бұрын
forces arent really the same. They apply force to objects in a similar way, but not the same. acceleration applies force but mass moving in relation to other portions of mass (even itself) and gravity applies force but attracting mass towards other mass, reducing energy states as low as possible.
@benjaminzou5661
@benjaminzou5661 6 жыл бұрын
Super Paper Mario anyone?
@Truescreen
@Truescreen 6 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@controlequebrado4455
@controlequebrado4455 5 жыл бұрын
OH YEAAAAH
@steelwhale7853
@steelwhale7853 5 жыл бұрын
i was literally going to comment this haha!!!! SPM YEAAAA I WOKE UP ON THE WRONG SIDE OF BED
@The_Archvile
@The_Archvile 5 жыл бұрын
FIRST thing I thought! My favorite has always been Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Old Door!
@starlite5154
@starlite5154 5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping someone would say that, i love you
@pauloketch4635
@pauloketch4635 5 жыл бұрын
a very nice way of explaining dimensions
@Rumplestiltskin.618
@Rumplestiltskin.618 6 жыл бұрын
awesome explanation of the 4th dimension
@sauceman2005
@sauceman2005 6 жыл бұрын
*the fucking inception level is godlike*
@allluckyseven
@allluckyseven 8 жыл бұрын
Funny that your representation of the transition between 3 and 4 dimensions is pretty much exactly how I have envisioned it. Just found out about your game, by the way, through Computerphile.
@gavinswartz2431
@gavinswartz2431 Жыл бұрын
This is fantastic! I yearn to learn more about the 4th dimension and how I can use this in my free time. Thanks so much. This makes me so happy and I love math:))))
@paveladamec3731
@paveladamec3731 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your game, I look forward it already.
@spzi_
@spzi_ 6 жыл бұрын
So it's FEZ but 4D?
@MRawash
@MRawash 6 жыл бұрын
was wondering the same thing, which came first?
@spzi_
@spzi_ 6 жыл бұрын
FEZ came out in April 13, 2012.
@anselmschueler
@anselmschueler 6 жыл бұрын
No, FEZ displays a projection, Miegakure displays a slice. It's FEZ without the background.
@Manuel71
@Manuel71 6 жыл бұрын
@Mark But there's no 4th dimension in FEZ.
@hamza62240
@hamza62240 6 жыл бұрын
FEZ is still one of my favourite games of all time, damn. Something about it just felt peaceful, like my mind is put to ease whenever I play it. The pixel art was amazing, the locations felt serene... Fuck, now I want to play it again.
@rabadash
@rabadash 7 жыл бұрын
I don't major in physics or math but from a logical standpoint... I kind of ticks me off that people are going nuts about the "is the 4th dimension a spatial one or is it time". I mean... I'm just saying what I think, but it seems rather dumb to go around defining the "4th" dimension. It's just the 4th on the list... In the video, he seems (and also the game, I'm inclined to believe) to be talking about an extra spatial dimension. For example, in a 2D game, the third dimension is time, or to be even more suggestive, who's to say that time isn't the first dimension? and X and Y are the 2nd and 3rd (or in whatever order). The order is identifiable due to perspective and is thus subjective. It's not as if you'd have first experience the width and height before being able to conceive depth. If we create a 2D world, we get to decide which set of dimensions are used there. Furthermore, the idea behind dimesions (correct me if I'm mistaken) is that from any point you can move along (not physically obviously) any or multiple dimension without any regards to the order of the dimensions. E.g. say in a 10D world an object should be able to move along all dimesions without needing to know whether it's currently following the 5th or 8th or both dimesions. So... All in all.. Arguing about whether time is the "4th" dimension, I think we can all agree, that time is a dimension and the order number is based on perspective. What's important is that when we think of something, we understand what set of collections is used. So for physics time is considered the 4th, but for some areas of math 4th dimesion is a spatial one.
@thibautsanders9507
@thibautsanders9507 6 жыл бұрын
Oh cool, thanks for explaining that neat tricks to me. Time to try this out!
@mescale
@mescale 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, really interesting! Now four dimension are much clearer, thanks!
@pankourlaut
@pankourlaut 7 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing we could use the analogy of a skyscraper with multiple elevators between floors. East is still east and west is still west in all the floors, but the scenery is unique in each floor. Hence, if there's a wall dividing east and west on the 1st floor, we take an elevator up to the 2nd floor, walk across to the other side and then take another elevator back down to the 1st floor. The difference is we don't need to use elevators, and we can somehow transport between floors causing the scenery to change as we move, but east is still east, and west is still west. Next, imagine the coffee mug on the 1st floor and wine glass on 2nd floor are a single object. Hence if you push the coffee mug on the 1st floor, the wine glass moves on the 2nd floor. Also the size of each floors does not have to be consistent.
@malikoniousjoe
@malikoniousjoe 6 жыл бұрын
Pankour Laut THANK YOU THAT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE HOLY FUCK
@SamTanXYZ
@SamTanXYZ 6 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty helpful analogy! The idea that I think you're trying to get across is that in this game, you don't really "take an elevator" exactly, but instead you turn so that you're facing vertically and walk up and down between floors, before turning again to face the "normal" direction.
@malikoniousjoe
@malikoniousjoe 6 жыл бұрын
Samuel Tan That's basically what an elevator does. It's just that you can use the elevator whenever and wherever.
@moosetwin9023
@moosetwin9023 6 жыл бұрын
what?
@joelthomastr
@joelthomastr 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's what's happening in this game and it's a cool stepping stone to understanding 4D. But it's not quite 4D, in the same way as jumping between two parallel sheets of paper is not quite 3D (hat-tip: Konata). For real 4D: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZtpklK572rG0YIU.html
@Fearofthemonster
@Fearofthemonster 7 жыл бұрын
Now I want this game. Let me try to explain what is happening. The 4th dimension is another dimension you can move just like the 3rd dimension. It is not time. Time is the 5th dimension in this game. Once you rotate the camera you can move in the 4th direction and go around the wall. Just like in the 2d wall is not continuing in the in the 3rd dimension, the 3d wall is not continuing in the 4th dimension. The rubble is not the future or past of the wall. The rubble is attached to the wall in the 4th dimension. That means if you can somehow send a vibration through the wall it should reach the rubble. Imagine that instead of a rubble there was more wall there That means if you can hit the wall hard enough, you can also demolish the one in the other plane since they are the same wall continuing in the 4th dimension. You can watch some 4d videos or read/watch flatland to get it.
@gamefoun
@gamefoun 7 жыл бұрын
exactly that, this comment should go up
@gamefoun
@gamefoun 7 жыл бұрын
the time travel bs people talk about here is just stupid
@joemasters2270
@joemasters2270 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation!
@hyikun8123
@hyikun8123 6 жыл бұрын
I was expecting a way to go into the 4th dimension in real life. Nice one lex
@LaurensHouweling
@LaurensHouweling 6 жыл бұрын
I will definitely be using this next time I escape prison, thanks for the tutorial!
@gggrow
@gggrow 5 жыл бұрын
Better yet, use it to escape prison
@yigitburkev4245
@yigitburkev4245 4 жыл бұрын
Since there is no button to change dimensions im sorry but this wont work
@alexpopinga2997
@alexpopinga2997 9 жыл бұрын
"This is why science and mathematics are so much fun; you discover things that seem impossible to be true and then get to figure out why it's impossible for them not to be." - Vi Hart
@indago5032
@indago5032 5 жыл бұрын
Great job explaining. I understand the 4th dimension now. Other video's make it quite confusing.
@Meteo_sauce
@Meteo_sauce 4 жыл бұрын
See this is the proper way to explain dimensions, unlike all the other fake youtube videos that are just clickbait
@BewareTheForce
@BewareTheForce 8 жыл бұрын
Fez 2: Hyper-fez
@Tuxy79
@Tuxy79 7 жыл бұрын
BewareTheForce I wish Fez 2 got made.
@Ami-Wishes
@Ami-Wishes 7 жыл бұрын
Don't we all.
@gamefoun
@gamefoun 7 жыл бұрын
too bad Phil ragequit the internet
@Tuxy79
@Tuxy79 7 жыл бұрын
He was a selfish jerk for turned his back on his fans by focusing on the trolls.
@gamefoun
@gamefoun 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, it sucks
@creationfied
@creationfied 5 жыл бұрын
Brain.exe has stopped working.
@boaphil
@boaphil 5 жыл бұрын
This is so mindblowing
@dabokle
@dabokle 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful 8-bit sountrack! Would love to hear it loud and clean
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