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How to wire a 220/240 volt Spa... Step by Step details
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**How to wire a 220/240 volt Spa... Step by Step details**
In this video I will show you how I wire a four wire Hot Tub .... two hot wires a neutral/common and a ground This is a step by step video that is very easy to follow with all of the details to help you do it safely
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@truestofhearts12 3 ай бұрын
Loved this video!! Just did my own tub! Took out the 110 and installed the 220!!
@spaman5440 3 ай бұрын
Right on good for you... Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@jpennington43 Жыл бұрын
Hey Scott ... I can't thank you enough man! I just took delivery of my new Catalina Kennedy and needed an "electrician" to hook it up. However, where I live in Eastern NC, very few are available and they are booked weeks out. I searched the subject and found your YT video and bam!! ... did it myself and saved lots of money. (Yes, I watched your video several times and referenced it throughout the project. Dude...it's folks like you that make KZfaq so successful and make folks like me look like pros. (My GF said she was SO proud of me, I blushed and said, well it was Scott and I who did it! She sends kisses!) Thanks again!!
@spaman5440 3 ай бұрын
Some how I missed this one ...That is so Awesome Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@JohnStuart-g8t Ай бұрын
This is a great video - very complete and saved me a lot of time and money … thanks for posting it! Keep up the great work
@ledellnelson1977 8 ай бұрын
I very much needed this video. Just got a hot tub installed (plug n play) 110v. After taking so long to heat up and not being able to run my jets on high while heating sucks. Your video makes me confident that I can convert to 220/240v myself. Thank you for your very detailed and informative video.
@baddbrad4081 Күн бұрын
Great job! Excellent step by step details as an industrial maintenance electrician some people get confused about the white wire being called a common VS a neutral when the white wire is carrying the unbalanced load in a circuit like 220V, 480V it's a neutral DC voltage its a common, but I get what he's saying, but not D.I.Y.'s 😊
@DNR1982 3 ай бұрын
All the best videos hands down! I was able to locate and fix a leak and switch out 2 pumps and heater with not only exact how to but with confidence after watching Scott. AND customer service with a return phone call?... Unheard of in this day of IA (spelled BS) but THE Spa Guy called me back after a question on an order... Thanks man!
@spaman5440 3 ай бұрын
Glad I could Help... Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@mikec4684 2 жыл бұрын
As an electrician that hooks up hot tubs I have to say very nice job man, great details and very thorough. And to code.
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sir
@davidlesley8884 7 ай бұрын
Actually, the shutoff box is supposed to be 5 feet away from the spa. The shutoff box is mounted way to low!
@user-tl2ub8cz4v 3 ай бұрын
In my area the shut off box is supposed to be above 18" from the ground and between 6 feet to 15 feet from the tub. A local electrician quoted $4,500 (4/2024) to do the hook up. I bought all the parts for $700 and did it myself in a day.
@stevecollins8103 9 ай бұрын
I am replacing an old hot tub with a new hot tub and I am hooking the 50 amp breaker to my main box and I would like to have a refresher video showing hooking the wires correctly to my main box. Your videos are very clear and informative. Thank you so much.
@mikeurban3996 2 жыл бұрын
Very thorough explanation. I need to do everything in this video, install the spa sub panel, spa panel breaker, wire it all up, and convert my tub from 110v to 240v. I was nervous and procrastinating the task, but after watching the Spa Man's video, I feel confident and ready to tackle it.
@CodyBingle 2 ай бұрын
That’s correct. Per NEC 680.13 states at least 5ft away but no more than 50ft.
@RenTanis Жыл бұрын
Great video! Finally someone showed all the necessary steps.
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@brucejohnston1082 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of your help! Finally converted hot tub to 220. Added spa sub panel, ran emt, flex seal and switched it over from 110. Your videos (and input) are great and were a tremendous help.
@MKrebs-kl7ud 9 ай бұрын
Very good instructions! I have some electrical experience but only enough to be dangerous. I’ve Wired basic circuits, my shop machines etc. and I always read and follow electrical code. Spa Man was a huge money saver!
@josephgraham1065 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back I love your videos. You give the best instructional videos for DI"Yers. Thanks for sharing.
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You so much...
@bud-weiser7713 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, Excellent details!!! Thank you Sir
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@jeanchery7246 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Mr. Spa very good 👍
@TheMisterranger 2 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you for your previous videos on this topic as I was able to wire my panel to the hot tub. We now soak safely
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
Right on ...Good for you and Im happy that you were able to get it done ..Enjoy And Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@adamvenoski5069 2 жыл бұрын
Video has great detail!
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@albertgutierrez8503 Жыл бұрын
Detail explanation. Awesome SPA MAN. Thank you!!👍👍
@rebeccasmith1121 2 жыл бұрын
What did you do with the Sealtight going into the tub through the hole you drilled. How did you seal it, did you use a rubber grommet some other type of seal
@anthonyross3957 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@kingreno35 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! I can tell you are old skool, you call it common wire. A lot of new age ppl say neutral and you left a service loop at the board
@michaeldomingos7520 7 ай бұрын
Question. So I'm in the middle of connecting a 220/240 volt Spa from a Pentair Intellicenter Sub Panel like your doing in this video. The breaker at the Intellicenter is a 60amp NON-GFCI breaker. So I just need the 1 60amp GFCI spa disconnect near the spa and that is fine correct?
@benjaminfr222 9 ай бұрын
Hi did everything like your video, I install the sub spa panel 50 do I need to put water to the spa because trip all the time
@spaman5440 9 ай бұрын
If the spa is tripping the breaker with or without water in it.. you wired something wrong or you have a problem with the spa itself. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@dgibbs8851 Жыл бұрын
Looks like you converted from a 110V plug-and-play to a 220V hard-wired? Don't you need a line-of-sight maintenance disconnect greater than 5 feet away from water? I guess the breaker can be considered a proper disconnect, but this looks closer than 5 feet. Code violation?
@johnkotara8697 2 ай бұрын
How did/do you seal up where the flexible conduit goes through the cabinet to keep out the critters? Silicone, Duct Seal, or any special grommets? Thanks in advance!
@spaman5440 2 ай бұрын
I try to drill a hole just big enough for the seal tight to go through...And I have never used any thing to seal it up.. I personally have never seen the need to do that. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@wladewig 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent details. I'm about to wire a Hot Springs spa for the 220volt option, and the only difference is the wire gauge - looks like you wired for 6 AWG, and I'll be wiring for 8 AWG, according to the install procedure, from the GFCI breaker.
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
You will also need a different Breaker package... You will need to use #6 from the Main panel to the Sub panel,,.In the Sub you will use the required breaker for a Hot Spring the use #8 from the GFCI in the Sub to the Hot Tub... You will also need to make sure you use THHN wire (Stay away from ROMAX wire) Hope this Helps Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@wladewig 2 жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 Yes it makes good sense - actually all of what you've replied with is planned for the install: 4 wire #6 AWG from main to sub in metal conduit, and 4 wire #8 AWG from sub's GFCI in sealtight to spa. All wire is THHN. I especially appreciated the details on steps to convert 110volt to 220 volt configuration. Thanks so much for taking the time to reply..
@Hizenbird 11 ай бұрын
@@wladewig I know this is old but I’m doing this now for a hot springs hot tub. I assume that there are different directions for different models. Mine says to use 2 #10 and 2 #12 wires when running from sub panel to hot tub for 240v.
@robertpenczar8930 2 жыл бұрын
very nice great video your the man
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir..
@pointblank6467 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@davidtaylor9936 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, super helpful, thanks
@DNR1982 3 ай бұрын
Do you have any vids that show how to (RE)-insert conductor wires for the pumps back into the clip terminals on a Jacuzzi J370 control board? Cant get the bared twisted wire ends back into the square inserts with the little 't-lever' looking contraption underneath (have photo of them)... THANKS!
@sliceronsteam 2 жыл бұрын
Great video with good info! I believe that GFCI Spa panel is too close to the tub to pass code but it looks like that problem was already done before you got there.
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
That spa panel did pass code and was permitted along with the pool...I was not part of the install of the of the pool or the Sub Panel. I want to say that more the half of the Spa we see every day are all done the same way these day. I personally would never recommend doing it that way. Im seeing more and more new builds installed this way everyday.. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@Josh-mk7ok 2 жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 odd that it passed, NEC code to have it at least 5 feet away
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
@@Josh-mk7ok I agree... I don't think the inspector new what was going on and someone put a sheet of plywood or bricks in front of it, (Ive seen home owners do that several times over the years )Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@Babygrand98 Ай бұрын
What about the hole drilled in hot tub to run conduit? Did you seal it with grommet or something?
@michaelmcdonnell1172 9 ай бұрын
awsome video, you explain things very well and now I feel confident in wiring my hot tub, which I just ordered today and will be here in 2 weeks or less, so I am going to tackle the 220 v line, I did wire up a dryer to the breaker before so I have some experience, my breaker box in about 100 feet from the tub and I will have to run the wire from the garage threw the Attic to the back screened in porch and down to the tub, how far away should the sub panel be from the tub? and since its inside a covered enclosed porch ? do I still need to use a metal box for sub panel ? or could I use a 4 wire recptical ? or do you have a different sugestion? Thanks for your help
@RubenMendoza-q3e Ай бұрын
Nice i like
@andygarcia2813 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and very informative. You've shown me how to rewire my hot tub since my breaker and underground wiring need to be replaced after it kept causing the breaker to trip (I think it's the wiring underground housed in pvc pipe). I saw that you used the non metallic conduit hose but above ground. Is it safe to use it below ground as well?
@bobbyvette Жыл бұрын
Great video as I’m going to be wiring my hot tub soon. I only have one question. What did you use to cover the hole for the seal tight entering the hot tub enclosure?
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
Nothing is needed.... The hole that was cut in the side of the Hot Tub is just one size larger then the seal tight. You can also use a hole saw that is the same size as the seal tight if you want. The reason I use one size larger is it is a lot easier to pull the seal tight through the hole. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@chrisswartzwelder2666 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the detailed video. My pentair sub panel is connected to the main with 50 Amp breaker. Can I run from pentair sub to another sub with 50 amp breaker for 240 hot tub?
@Combat556 2 жыл бұрын
Besides the code requiring that the disconnect be no less than 5 ft from spa, and in line of sight, is there a minimum height? Thank you for the outstanding professional instruction.
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
No lower then the edge of the Hot Tub so as to not be able to use it as a step. My rule of thumb is 36 inches...Safety first no matter what. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@Combat556 2 жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 thank you 😊
@Hizenbird 11 ай бұрын
@@spaman5440 if the code is followed (no less than 5ft from the tub) there’s no worry about using the sub panel as a step.
@spaman5440 11 ай бұрын
@@Hizenbird My understanding is the sub panel can be no closer then 5 feet and a min of 3 feet from the ground. (for a Hot Tub install) on this install the sub on the wall was going to be used for an outdoor party area... My rule of thumb has alway been safety first and If I think something can be used in an unsafe manner I will make so you can't. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@Hizenbird 11 ай бұрын
@@spaman5440 Thank you. Can you point me to a code that says what the minimum is? I’m doing one now and I just placed the sub panel on a wall about 1.5ft above grade. I think I just realized what you were saying. I thought you placed it higher so that it wouldn’t be used as a step [to get inside the tub]. But I can see where you don’t want someone to use it as a step for anything. Makes sense. 👍 Edit: just checked… the top of the sub panel is 2’ 4” from ground. So I think I’m good.
@kscott8464 Жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@Combat556 2 жыл бұрын
You’re the best! Thank you 😊
@high.tened_sense5966 Ай бұрын
Great vid! Does this work on a hot tub with Two pumps?
@spaman5440 Ай бұрын
Not really sure what you are asking... A hot tub with two pumps and motors 99% of the time has to be wired 220/240 volt hard wired. Hope that Helps ...Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@high.tened_sense5966 Ай бұрын
@@spaman5440 sometimes not knowing enough means not knowing the right questions to ask, so I am sorry for the confusing question I asked. I guess what I am trying to find out is, my 220v hottub has 2 pumps, so do I have to run 2 separate 220v circuits (220v circuit per pump) or will the one main 220v circuit power the tubs two pumps
@ryanjanick2357 2 жыл бұрын
Our dynasty swim spa is getting delivered next week finally and we purchased our swim spa in June 2020
@jeremykunzman1709 22 күн бұрын
Question, I’ve got 6 gauge wire but instead of white, I’ve got a yellow. Am I still able to use it to connect the hot tub to the sub panel?
@cjangel1072 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I know you said you used #6 for the two hots but I never caught what sized wire you used for the neutral and ground in the liquid tight. Thank you for your help.
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
I use THHN or THWN # 6 on all four wires ...Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@jaredricker6994 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video thanks !
@tonysuri5450 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks . excellent video can you please sub panel information and circuit breaker you used.
@davidlesley8884 7 ай бұрын
I would like to know where they got that spa cover? My cover is 3 yrs old and its shot!
@spaman5440 7 ай бұрын
I know a Guy... AKA SpaMan.... Call the office and we will be able to help you.. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@grahamsiebring5227 2 жыл бұрын
My main breaker box is in my garage, approximately 25 ft from the hot tub in the backyard. Any reason I couldn’t run wiring directly from my breaker box to the hot tub using conduit? Or do I need a sub breaker box closer to the hot tub? Great video! Thanks so much for the instruction.
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
I would put a sub panel no closer then 5 feet and in the line of sight of the hot tub.. In the event of an emergency I would want to be able to shut the power off... Just my two cents.Every time I lay out a job my focus is safety first.Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@grahamsiebring5227 2 жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 no thank you!!
@sers1244 2 жыл бұрын
In order to meet code, and for your own safety, you need a sub panel with a gfci breaker, readily accessible but not closer to 5 feet of the spa
@bobbiebrian6927 2 жыл бұрын
I should would love to pick your brain, I am working on a hot tub that is getting hot and staying hot - just turned off the freeze protect switch because it seem to be running not stop not sure where to go next with the trouble shooting because there is not spa display to give me any ideas of what is going on. Just replaced heat coil and sensor on the tubing for the heat coil - tub was not heating up, now it is but it is over heating?
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
Give Scott a call and talk to him... He's in the shop most days after 1 P.M. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@davidbanks9550 2 жыл бұрын
Can you add another breaker to that sub panel to feed an outdoor electrical outlet or some outdoor lights?
@hectormenchaca1253 2 жыл бұрын
What brand of wire I need from Home Depot y what type of breaker? Thanks.
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
I use #6 THHN or THWN wire and most often a 50 Amp GFCI breaker or 60 Amp GFCI when needed... Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@manualdslr 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful.
@prodigalpilot Жыл бұрын
You could have used #8 THHN for 50 amps, correct? Certainly nothing wrong with going to #6.
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
(I would check local building codes) BUT I never use #8 THHN wire I have learned over the years that when Im having a problem with a hot tub and everything is either New or in perfect working condition and the spa keeps tripping the breaker when I investigate what size wrier type was used...It was #8 wire or it was 6/3 remix so as a result of more then 100 with this problem when we changed out the wire the problem went away and problem was fixed ..Ive had professionals over the years say I missed something and I just roll my eyes and say whatever..Ive worked on to many spa to count and its just what I'm see day in and day out... So #6 THHN wire all the way for the SpaMan ... Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@petermassoglia9435 Жыл бұрын
I have a white, green and two black wires, no red. Do I assume that one of the black wires is red?
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
You can.. I would check it with a meter to be on the safe side .. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@dapperdan9144 7 ай бұрын
Hi Spa Man. We are getting a D1 Executive tub. Do you have a favorite 50 amp sub panel? I hear of the breakers being unreliable on some, expensive on some, or just too tight for 6 gauge wire. Any Suggestions? Thanks!!
@spaman5440 7 ай бұрын
I believe they are all very reliable, as far as price goes it just gets down the where you buy them as to the price you are going to pay. The problems that I see are connections being loose! Every GFCI that Ive seen fail had loose connections. As for the #6 wire being to tight..If you take your time and make sure the connector is open all the way it will go in the hole. Thanks for Watching &SUBSCRIBING
@robm3063 2 жыл бұрын
What's your take on downsizing the neutral wire. Tip for you also. After doing hundreds of panels here in Chicagoland (solid wire) I found it best to go back and give all lugs and breaker screws a check. I seemed that by the time I would get done with the panel the first breakers could be cranked a bit more. Don't know why
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
I would never recommend downsizing the wire! for the amount of coin you will save its just not worth it to me. Now I do keep track of the tubs I see with down sized wire and quite often they are the ones that are alway having problems during the cold of winter or like here in AZ when it is 110+ during the summer either tripping the breaker, over heating. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@Enteric Жыл бұрын
Do different boards for Balboa, when converting to 220/240, utilize the Red AC instead of the White AC for the pumps? The manuals I've seen do have the jump from Red AC to White AC however all the other wires to the pumps and ozone are coming from Red AC. Just curious. Thanks!
@mattmccaffrey4299 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know if you can run conduit along an exterior brick chimney? A hot tub is being installed (50 amp breaker, 6/3 wire) but conduit will need to be run along exterior of house -- is it ok to run conduit along (around) an exterior chimney (per National Code)? Thank you I found a lot of helpful info on your channel -- just subscribed.
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
I would never run 6/3 for an exterior install...I would run #6 on all four wires from the main to the Sub panel. If you need more info call me at the shop. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@mattmccaffrey4299 2 жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 Thank you!! I was planning to use outdoor rated but yes individual #6 wires (4) makes more sense! I can't find anything that prohibits conduit on exterior chimney -- T Y I appreciate!!
@davidw7643 2 жыл бұрын
Why not park the jumper wire on the lower connection point?
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been doing it this way for years and I see no reason to change what is already working for me as well as other in the industry.. Safety first I don't want to confuse others viewers... Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@sailork3506 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great video. Thanks. Quick question: I have builder-run spa wiring. A black, red, white and ground wire run from a GFI 220V 30A ganged breaker in the box. All my spa equipment is high amp (e.g. 10A) 120V: pump, heater, etc. Can I wire the outlets to split the red and black circuits and have the return be the same white in both and have the GFI work properly? That is, the red/white pair and the black/white pair each have equipment on them, and both circuits are protected by the ganged GFI 220 breaker in the panel? It would seem to work properly--since no current is lost to ground. All of it balances back to the neutral in the breaker. Works???
@leenewell2481 Жыл бұрын
My spa keeps tripping but my heater works pump works and air works it only trips when all 3 are going at the same time any help would be greatly appreciated
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
There could be several reasons for this.. Wrong type/kind of wire Wire is not the right size Spa is to far away from main breaker Wrong size breaker Wrong type of breaker Connections are too loose Spa motors over amping Just because everything works doesn't mean that there isn't something wrong with the motors.heater or the blower Hope this Helps Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@leenewell2481 Жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 it has been going well for the last 6 months and just started what would you suggest a start with
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
@@leenewell2481 Im not sure were you live in the world but here in Arizona the problems you are having happen every summer as Temps get over 95 degrees and homeowner want to use the hot tub and it is alway one of these things Wrong type/kind of wire Wire is not the right size Spa is to far away from main breaker Wrong size breaker Wrong type of breaker Connections are too loose Spa motors over amping You need to find out what has been installed and wright it down. and you need to figure haw many amp are being pulled when everything is running .and wright it down. For more Help you can call and talk to Scott and he can help you with more info Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@toddtravis121 10 ай бұрын
Scott, amazing video. Thank you for sharing. I’m not close, otherwise I would reach out to your shop. We had an electrician pre-wire from a 50 amp GFCI breaker to our future spa 40 feet away. Now that we have the spa I’m trying to hook up the wiring. There is no disconnect close to the spa, so planning on adding a disconnect. Do I need an AC style disconnect or a GFCI breaker disconnect in the location close to the spa? Also, the electrician ran number six hot wires, number eight neutral, and number 10 ground. Based on your info, should I run the last 20 feet with all number six or do I need to replace all of the number eight and number 10 wires? Thank you in advance for any guidance.
@spaman5440 10 ай бұрын
The electrician need to go back and rewire with #6 THHN or THWN wire on all four wires (the smaller Neutral and Ground over time could cause the GFCI not to work properly) A/C style disconnect should not be used for a hot tub .Use a GFCI in the Main panel or in the Sub panel. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@toddtravis121 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@wsupharmguy Жыл бұрын
Hot tub calls for 60A breaker, 6# wire. How far can I run that wire from main to sub before I lose too much power?? Found one chart that says 188ft? And to clarify - I would run 60A out of the main and 60A GFCI out of the sub - or does that wire run necessitate a larger breaker out of the main?
@kylepribe3375 2 жыл бұрын
So question I wired in a hot tub from garage panel/sub panel box to the hot tubs panel box how i was shown and double checked it but I'm getting voltage on the box itself any help will be appreciated if needed I can get pictures of the inside of boxes
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
You can call and talk to Scott he's in the back shop working on one of his race karts and he will be able to help you. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@automech01 2 жыл бұрын
I just got me sundance wired and they put the gfi breakers in the main panel and a disconnect in the sub panel no breaker?
@djogoku1 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Work sir!!! Is it necessary to have a sup panel if the main breaker box is within 7 feet of the Spa? Could you just add the 50a gfci breaker to the main panel and run 6 gauge Wire directly to the spa?
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
Yes that will work fine.
@Hizenbird 11 ай бұрын
It will work but it won’t be as safe and may not be to code. Is your main panel within site of the tub or is it around a corner? If someone needed to immediately turn off power to the tub would they be able to find the breaker in a main panel as easily/intuitively as turning off in a sub panel? These are the safety questions you should be asking.
@danielsanchez1184 Жыл бұрын
Hi.. You can go 50amp to 50amp with no issues??
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
YES
@jeepdawg Жыл бұрын
Electrician ran 240 2+G wire from main panel (50A double pole) to outside HVAC style disconnect box. Tub has no neutral and is failing GFCI tests. Can I run a neutral from the disconnect box to the tub to or do I need to run it all the way (200+') to the main panel?
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
Ok ..this is how it should be done.. 4 THHN wires... two Hot wires ,Ground , Neutral from the main panel to a Spa sub panel( Not a HVAC disconnect )Put the GFCI Breaker in the main panel then put the other breaker in the spa sub panel ..Now weather your spa is a 3 wire or a 4 wire you are GFCI protected because the GFCI is in the main panel (I think this will be my next Video idea) Hope this Helped Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@carltrano1325 Жыл бұрын
Is it better to have the gfci breaker in the main panel or in the sub panel for a 3 wire Sundance hot tub. I would like to have the sub panel close to the tub for Maintenance. IE not having to walk through the hole house to Shut the breaker off.
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
On a three wire hot tub ... With the main breaker (OFF) I install the GFCI in the mail panel and a 50 amp breaker in the Sub panel...Sub panel should be no closer then 5 feet to the spa and no father then 20 feet from the spa and in the line of sight. I also alway install them 36 inches off the ground so that no one is able to use it as a step...This is how you make a 3 wire spa GFCI safe. Thank for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@carltrano1325 Жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 thanks a lot . Great information.
@mapools777 2 жыл бұрын
WhT would happen if you hooked up the common wire from the spa to the common wire bar in the sun panel?
@sers1244 2 жыл бұрын
The neutral (white wire) that feeds the spa from the disconnect, must be connected to the gfci breaker, not to the neutral bar, otherwise the gfci will not work correctly, most likely will trip. Also make sure that the ground wires (green or bare copper) are not in the neutral bar but in the ground bar, neutral and ground should always be in separate bars in sub-panels
@sandracolleen4203 2 жыл бұрын
6 wire Hotsprings Grandee install to 50amp gfci sub panel. Help Please. Stood up by two electricians Had to insist inept general contractor leave property when damaging main grounding system. Now I'm on my own with last step of connecting 6 wire spa to sub panel but I'm only seeing videos for 4 wire tubs. Please advise to help understand 4 wire verses 6 wire install connection to sub panel. Thank you.
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
A six wire spa is not easy to explain here..I know Scott is in the process of Video/Editing on this subject..I would suggest calling him at the shop and talk to him directly. He is in the shop most day after 8 A.M. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING. I let Scott know that you might caller help.
@sandracolleen4203 2 жыл бұрын
Dang Spa Man & Helper! You're good! Thank you!! With hope of getting spa powered up before snowfall I made the call, leaving message not really expecting good help from a KZfaq channel. While returning empty handed from three hour drive to buy panel (that turned out to be another 4 wire) to my surprise I get a direct call from Scott with his full understanding of our circumstance with 50 amp, 30/20 split two breaker sub panels for 6 wire systems being unavailable, or at least very hard to find. Within minutes Scott provided clear, detailed, concise instruction that I feel confident will function safely and well. -At main install 50amp GFCI breaker -Run #6 wire to sub panel, NOT #8 -Within weather resistant sub panel use 30amp & 20amp standard breakers After months of seeking correct sub panel, paying for assistance, being stood up by two electricians, another coming to estimate yet not providing one, a general contractor working outside scope of license, poorly installing wrong sub panel and putting shovel through wire of overall grounding system, I will cautiously yet confidently be handling this myself. Update to come. 👍
@audreystout6555 Жыл бұрын
Are spas all wired the same way?
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
No! not even close. You have 110 volt Plug & Play or you could have a 3 wire 4 wire 5 wire and even a 6 wire hot tub. You can have form a 20 amp breaker all the way to a 60 amp breaker. When I comes to the breakers make sure there is a GFCI breaker installed . If you need some help call the shop and talk to Scott he can help you. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@joem6107 2 жыл бұрын
I am adding a 60 amp spa panel GFI, do I need to run #4 wires from the main to the Spa panel, then #6 wires from the Spa panel to the Spa? Or can I run #6 from the main to the spa panel and on?
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
If you are going to do that...You need to put a 60 GFCI in the main panel and run #4 THHN wire to the Sub panel and in the Sub panel you can put a 50 breaker and run #6 wire THHN wire in Liquid/Seal tight to the Hot Tub. Hope tis Helped Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@fuzznose Жыл бұрын
Did you use 6/3 wire from the load center to the hot tub?
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
NO... NEVER EVER USE 6/3 Ever. You alway use #6 THHN or THWN wire. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@amilias1000 Жыл бұрын
I have a tech wire 8/3 the code says the neutral wire should be white the tech wire neutral is blue. Is that a problem?
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
Ok first off I would never use that type of wire or that wire size it will just cause you problems in the future and can void some warrantees I only use #6 on all four wires and THHN/THWN wire only. Over the years Ive seen so many different wiring jobs some with permit and many without.. Wrong wire size and type are a main problem many home owners run into...We fix several problem because of this each week and have for many years... I hear it all to often when I tell the homeowner its the wire size or the type of wire they used.. And they say (Its been working great for Years) And I tell them.... and now its not!! Some don't believe me and get another option (Spend money on unneeded parts)only to find out I was right. Hope this Helps Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@amilias1000 Жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 the manufacturer specifies 8/3. Thank you for replying.
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
@@amilias1000 Interesting...Well I can tell from that that the manufacture has probably never had to go out on a service call. 8/3 is Roman with an undersized ground.. Can ground wire be undersized? With too-small a ground wire, the breaker cannot magnetic-trip because it cannot flow enough current to hit 10x, because of the too-high resistance of the wire. And as you can guess, that's trouble. Romax wiring has been the problem in so many Hot Tubs Ive lost count ..Thats just my two cents worth. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@amilias1000 Жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 sounds dangerous if it can't trip the gfci
@rooey2816 2 жыл бұрын
@SPA MAN I'm thinking about putting a hot tub in my garage. Would it be acceptable to put a 220v receptacle in the wall, connected to a GFCI breaker, then just run a whip from the hot tub and plug it in?
@michaelmcdonnell1172 9 ай бұрын
great question !! I would like to know this as well
@Frogandtoadtime 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t see where I can send a picture but we had someone hook ours up, it ran for a couple hours but now the breaker just keeps getting tripped. In your final step with the 50 amp breaker, does it matter if the black was on top and red on bottom?
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
If it ran for a coulee hours you have something else going on. You can call the shop and Talk to Scott and he should be able to get you going in the right direction. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@davidmatsu9410 2 жыл бұрын
Do you use Romex 6/3 in the sealtite flex conduit or four separate ones?
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
No...Never. I use #6 on all four wires in seal tight .Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@owilliams2879 Жыл бұрын
Here in Arizona can you use your Air conditioning‘s sub panel for your hot tub?
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
No you can not it will cause problems
@pkaneowen 2 жыл бұрын
What size seal tight tubing did you use for #6 wire? 1 inch or 1/2 inch ?
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
I use 3/4 or bigger Seal Tight
@pkaneowen 2 жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 Thank you sir!
@jrodriguez4324 2 жыл бұрын
Can you use a 60 amp breaker for a 50 amp hot tub?
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
Yes you can.
@clsherian 2 жыл бұрын
Watched all your videos. I Have one stupid question. Do I Call the inspector after I run the conduit in the ground and again after I hook everything up or Go ahead and hook everything up and leave the breaker off?
@clsherian 2 жыл бұрын
But of course leave the conduit uncovered.
@RacerLady503 2 жыл бұрын
My electrical panel doesn't have separate neutral and ground bars. For my hot tub, would I put them on each of the screws (2 spots) right infront of the breaker location?
@KitchenerLeslie2 2 жыл бұрын
You might have to add a ground bar. The bar you use for the neutral should be isolated from the panel. Usually by plastic spacers. The ground bar should be mounted directly to the metal panel and the two bars should not be connected. If something goes wrong with your hookup the neutral could become hot. If you have the ground hooked up to the neutral dangerous surfaces and the water could become hot.
@brianvinzant1893 2 жыл бұрын
Is the liquid tight tube code or is that just recommended? I am looking up a bunch of stuff on this and I was planning on having grey pvc come from the box under ground until I got under the hot tub then just the wire to the box on the tub. The wire I bought is southwire 10/3 UF wire and says is designed for direct buriel and wet or dry locations
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
You need to call Scott at the Shop.You have a lot going on and we don't want to confuse others reading this and give out info that fixes your problem and is totally wrong for there problem.Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@TravisFabel 2 жыл бұрын
Direct burial for wet is okay. Direct burial in conduit is okay. But if you're going to use conduit you have to follow the regulations for the conduit. This is the tricky part he's not going to write everything about.
@brianvinzant1893 2 жыл бұрын
@@TravisFabel thank you, I still haven't done the wire (I actually found out I had the wrong wire) and have ran into other problems but those are fixed now but what I am thinking now is running hard metal conduit on top of the concrete and bolting it down and trying to find something to cover it with. My problem is I don't have any electrician friends and the guy at lowes doesn't know what he's talking about lol
@bradd4664 2 жыл бұрын
Do you recall what subpanel that is?
@TheLostAdventuress Жыл бұрын
You can’t use those connectors for liquid tite
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@audreystout6555 Жыл бұрын
I can't get my hot tube to turn on! What would cause it not to turn on?
@spaman5440 Жыл бұрын
Not wired right. bad motor.. programed wrong bad heater.. Sensors are bad just to name a few. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@mattmagerofficial 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you get your wiring/parts from? Does somewhere like Home Depot have all these parts needed to wire the tub to the breaker?
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Home Depot should have it ...
@mattmagerofficial 2 жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 where do u get your wiring from?
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattmagerofficial Home Depot
@hankmon103 2 жыл бұрын
I was told from spa store to use 3 wire for JACUZZI brand tub but told from contractor that they run 4 wire. Does it make a difference in performance or wouldn’t matter?
@hankmon103 2 жыл бұрын
Need to add sub panel from main to disconnect, then to tub. Will be 240V 60 AMP
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it does matter.. In the main panel you will put a 50 GFCI breaker and use 4 #6 wires THHN that will run to the sub panel. in the sub panel you will put a 50 amp breaker and use only 3 wires THHN also (2 hot wires and a ground)and run that to the spa in seal/liquid tight. Sub panel can be no closer then 5 feet to the spa and no further then 20 feet inline of sight and 36 inches min from the ground. Hope this Helps Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING (Side NOTE)... In this video the sub panel was passed by an inspector...But on the permit and prints it said it was going to be an outdoor kitchen had the inspector known it was going to be used for a Spa they would of RED tagged it...
@sandyradsek2058 2 жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 you said the sub panel can be no more that 20’ line of sight. Does that mean the cable run can be longer that 20’ to the sub panel? For example if the wire needs to go around or under something like a shed.
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandyradsek2058 From the Main to the Sub is what it is... when you get to the Sub it should be no further then 20 feet from the Spa and no closer then 5 feet to to the spa and in the line of sight with no obstructions in the way. If your still not sure call the office and talk to Scott. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@pipedownu 2 жыл бұрын
Is #6 wire adequate for a 60 amp gfci breaker?
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
The NEC says yes... Now I have a rule of thumb I use. 100 feet or less #6 THHN wire only on all wires no down sizing wire. No more then 7 Total HP motors with heater and you should be fine. Over 100 feet and or Big HP motors and large heaters changes everything. Hope that Helps Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@fc110685 Жыл бұрын
Just curious on the estimated cost to run a 240v connection with #8 wire and covert the tub from a plug and play to a direct 240v connection? Im in Los Angeles and keep getting crazy estimates.
@MrHermangv Жыл бұрын
Depends on how many feet you will need of wire
@Hizenbird 11 ай бұрын
What did you end up doing here?
@gregbond3511 2 жыл бұрын
HOW DID YOU SEAL THE LIQUID TIGHT WHERE IT ENTERED THE SPA?
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't there is no reason to seal it. It is just a hole in the side of the tub that I drilled its a pretty tight fit... Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@gwrace 2 жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 I would seal it. Around here it's an invitation for bees, fire ants and wasps to make nice little nests.
@carlp3602 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in the west valley/Surprise,az and I just bought the Tt450 platinum. I need the 220v ran. Are you in the area?
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
We are...You can call the office and talk to Scott and Im sure he will be able to help you. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
@bpierrealix 2 жыл бұрын
@@spaman5440 great video! I have the hot spot hot tub can it convert it's 115 model sx3u1446. Please and thank you
@jorgeespinoza1059 2 жыл бұрын
why the switch for 240?
@LarryJames-vc7cn Жыл бұрын
Hot tub comes on go through cycle heats up pump in low pump. Engages in high runs one minute completely cuts off. Wait about two minutes. Comes back on.
@scottdelahoussaye9462 2 жыл бұрын
I have some hot tub questions. Do u have an email or something? I'm trying to learn the right way
@redneckpatriot4485 Жыл бұрын
Quit calling it a common...the white wire is called the neutral!!
@jpennington43 3 ай бұрын
How about just say thanks for the video. If you’ve gotten so far as to watch his video, you know what it’s called.
@corvettecoupe3731 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work, but that tub looked like a dud…🙄
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
One of the ten best hot tubs you can buy for the money.
@freebird1963 2 жыл бұрын
How the hell do you get all them wires in the 1" inch hole on the RS101 and then 90 them to get into that f'n hole ? Whoever designed that board was on drugs.
@spaman5440 2 жыл бұрын
Im with you...Bad design for sure.. I try to never use any 90s for that reason unless I have to...Over the years of doing this Ive just gotten fast at it. Thanks for Watching & SUBSCRIBING
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