How to work through fear, give hard feedback, and doing layoffs with grace

How to work through fear, give hard feedback, and doing layoffs with grace | Matt Mochary

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Matt Mochary, CEO of Mochary Method, is a full-time executive coach who has worked with some of the biggest names in tech and finance, including investor Naval Ravikant and the CEOs of Notion, OpenAI, Coinbase, Reddit, and many others. In today’s podcast, we talk about the skill of firing people, why it’s so important, and Matt’s framework for approaching layoffs. We go deep on recognizing emotions like anger and fear, and what to pay attention to when you feel angry or fearful. He also shares how to build new products within a larger company, important tips on how to make sure everyone in the organization feels valued and heard, carving out time for your top goal, and how an energy audit can help you eliminate tasks that are draining your energy.
Find the full transcript here: www.lennyspodcast.com/how-to-...
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Where to find Matt Mochary:
• Twitter: / mattmochary
• LinkedIn: / matt-mochary-34bb4
• Website: www.mochary.com/
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• Newsletter: www.lennysnewsletter.com
• Twitter: / lennysan
• LinkedIn: / lennyrachitsky
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Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for making this episode possible:
• AssemblyAI: www.assemblyai.com/?...
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Referenced:
• The Great CEO Within: The Tactical Guide to Company Building: www.amazon.com/Great-CEO-With...
• Mochary Method: mocharymethod.org/
• Leo Polovets on Twitter: / lpolovets
• High Output Management: www.amazon.com/High-Output-Ma...
• The Hard Thing About Hard Things: Building a Business when There Are No Easy Answers: www.amazon.com/Hard-Thing-Abo...
• Andrej Karpathy on Lex Fridman’s podcast: lexfridman.com/andrej-karpathy/
• Wei Deng on LinkedIn: / dengwei
• Free Solo: films.nationalgeographic.com/...
• Ryan Hoover on Twitter: / rrhoover
• Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less: gregmckeown.com/books/essenti...
• Make Time: How to Focus on What Matters Every Day: www.amazon.com/Make-Time-Focu...
• Centered app: www.centered.app/
• Diana Chapman at Conscious Leadership Group: conscious.is/team/diana-chapman
• The Mochary Method curriculum doc: docs.google.com/document/d/18...
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In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Matt’s background
(07:39) Areas where even very successful founders struggle
(12:24) How to address people to minimize defensiveness
(13:24) The destructive nature of anger and how to feel your feelings so you don’t hurt others
(15:02) Which books led Matt to his coaching journey and software platform
(19:03) When and how to let an employee go
(31:47) How to make people feel heard
(38:05) How Matt’s coaching has evolved to include psychological obstacles to success
(39:41) What is “top goal,” and how can it help you make massive gains?
(41:25) Why Matt has an accountability partner for his top goal time
(43:44) How to approach mass layoffs humanely
(53:21) Matt’s thoughts on the Twitter layoffs
(54:10) How to innovate within a large company
(1:01:53) How to do an energy audit
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Пікірлер: 25

@msmenzyk Жыл бұрын

"the best part is no part" - I love this so much. That's why I've got only guitar, cable and an amplifier in my stack. Less things, less chaos

@hoodwinked954 Жыл бұрын

"This was fun" - Matt Mochary. Yes it was, it was a fun listen. Thanks for putting this up and making time for all of us listeners indirectly.

@savvyherb Жыл бұрын

TLDR if you want to improve performance you need to optimize layoffs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Matt Mochary provides a valuable lesson in Capitalism = Company > People

@edwap038 9 ай бұрын

This is a gem of an interview! Thank you both!!!! 🙂❤

@mokeeiswatching Жыл бұрын

I should rewatch this every so often. Thank you for this video.

@cag1 Жыл бұрын

incredible: each answer contains so many nuggets of wisdom.

@smartboy_rises Жыл бұрын

Wonderful conversation ! Very insightful ! Thank you for sharing !

@levkonst Жыл бұрын

Sad to hear about a CEO who feels no emotions. How do they build relationships and trust? Thinking about Kim Scott's "humanity is your asset".

@EffectiveMuscle Жыл бұрын

That's a great person to have on your team. When you know someone isn't gripped by emotion despite the distress placed on them, you can trust them to decide and execute swiftly and fairly. That trait can build very strong working relationships. Can you trust them to have empathy or to provide therapy? No, that's not their strength. Another team member must provide those things.

@levkonst Жыл бұрын

@@EffectiveMuscle I would find it hard to communicate with someone who doesn't show any emotions but just executes. What do they like? What do they don't like? Communication is an important part of team work. Being a communication bottleneck really messes up the team execution in my experience.

@MdRiad-fu5cb Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your help! It works perfectly!

@user-ed5uo8fe2h 7 ай бұрын

Loved this episode! Thanks Lenny

@gayeongkim6927 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the awesome vid.

@nicholasrobinson6031 Жыл бұрын

This episode is 🥇

@yanayprop Жыл бұрын

Good episode! note: your camera is bouncing, should consider fixing it.

@LennysPodcast Жыл бұрын

Yeah...big bummer. It's now fixed, but didn't want to mess with it in the middle of the chat. But super annoying :(

@kalpona-yk5re Жыл бұрын

very good video

@tomaszswieboda7474 Жыл бұрын

This is amazing

@chethkampot Жыл бұрын

good sir sounds

@chan90s 10 ай бұрын

That innovation works through autonomy if the salary is much above industry average else people think that why not do on my own

@kareliajowhitt7442 Жыл бұрын

This is such a great interview with really helpful information. I was *completely* with this guy until he said "no, I don't think it [having equity] matters at all. It's not what actually motivates," in regard to spinning off c corps to innovate at large companies. I get the sentiment of what he was trying to say, but it just put a bit of a bad taste in my mouth; only people who have are incredibly well off have the privilege of saying things like that.

@BillStrathearn Жыл бұрын

The part about firing somebody on his team just because he needed the practice of firing someone bothered me. I know that it worked out well for the company but how well did it work out for the person that he let go? What would the impact on the company have been if he let the person stay and worked closely with that person to improve the amount of impact they were having?

@scottstout Жыл бұрын

Is your camera on autofocus? Would be better to turn that off.

@LennysPodcast Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's super annoying. It's all fixed but sadly couldn't do much about it while I was chatting :(

@MJ-qe5lg 6 ай бұрын

Tell people how they have to respond to you?? Like the wife example. I honestly said early on in the pod to myself this guy just read a ton of books and had an aha moment. Then he states later on that most of what he teaches is poached. Hahaha I read that like a book. The on-time thing fill like a controlling narcissist thing much like my first statement. Weird guy! Like the wall flower got invited to a party he was not supposed to be at.