How trains actually Turn ? | on curved rail track.

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Жыл бұрын

#railway
train wheels are slightly conical in shape.
this helps to turn the wheel along the curved rail track.
In this video , learn the concept of how it works.

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@peer_64
@peer_64 Жыл бұрын
Never knew that the shape of the wheels and the tracks were that important. Always thought just the flanges were responsible for the steering. Very clearly explained for me who has no degree in math. Thank you👊🤗
@clarencegreen3071
@clarencegreen3071 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: when a train traverses a sharp curve at high speed, it is not uncommon for the flange of a wheel to contact the side of the rail. To minimize the wear and tear on both the rail and the wheel, "flange greasers" are sometimes installed to apply a small amount of lubricant between the flange and the side of the rail.
@ketas
@ketas Жыл бұрын
track oil feels almost liks blinker fluid
@tapanprakashsen3873
@tapanprakashsen3873 Жыл бұрын
This is taught in a 2nd yr of Mechanical Engineering in all good Engineering Colleges.
@danx9194
@danx9194 Жыл бұрын
It's something obvious
@peer_64
@peer_64 Жыл бұрын
@@tapanprakashsen3873 Could be. I'm a musician😉
@maidsandmuses
@maidsandmuses Жыл бұрын
This is a broadly correct but simplified explanation. Some extra details: the wheel profile is not really semi-conical; it is a complex hyperbolic transition into the flange. But at first glance it looks like a conical shape. The inside camber (angle) of the rails is necessary to prevent the "conical" shape of the wheel set exerting an excessive lateral force onto the rails, which would otherwise tend to be pushed apart. Two interesting effects can actually be heard; one is where the train has come to a near standstill on a curve with superelevation which is normally designed for higher speeds. Then the wheel-set is not sitting in quite the right position on the track, and one wheel starts to slip with stiction, giving an audible shuddering noise. The other audible effect is where the curve is so tight that the flange comes into action: this results in a sharp metallic (& loud!) squealing sound. This is usually at slow entry & exit sections into / out of stations and switch yards. To minimise flange wear, automatic grease pump stations on the track are often employed at these sections, which only grease the _inside_ surface of the rail where the flange makes contact, but not the running surface of the rail (you don't want grease on _top_ of the railhead).
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
Exactly. There is a curve between the tread and flange which helps centralize the wheelsets.
@prestonburton8504
@prestonburton8504 Жыл бұрын
indeed, but in previous steam, they hadn't understood that yet. Like gears, involute was pretty recent - the pressure angles changed in 20s and then 40s.
@mmorrell2007
@mmorrell2007 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I have said this many times.
@earthwormscrawl
@earthwormscrawl Жыл бұрын
"The Loop" in Chicago is really loud as the trains negotiate ridiculously tight curves.
@PenisMcWhirtar
@PenisMcWhirtar Жыл бұрын
I've tried to explain this so many times to my grandsons and they never seemed to grasp it. Showed 'em your comment and finally they understand. Many thanks! 👁 👁 👄
@rockon416
@rockon416 Жыл бұрын
Wonder how these massive steel wheels are quieter than car tires moving over steel tracks at 160-200 mph. Might be interesting to hear a train engineer give detailed explanation why high speed train is relatively very quiet from inside. Freight train moving 30-40 mph is very noisy standing outside. We are talking about bullet trains.
@J2gt
@J2gt Жыл бұрын
In the corners they make very much noice
@TheManWhoMadeThe47
@TheManWhoMadeThe47 Жыл бұрын
@@J2gt yeah, *ALOT* of noise
@wudipest
@wudipest Жыл бұрын
No, my friend, they are not quieter than cars...
@nightshade7745
@nightshade7745 Жыл бұрын
@@J2gt only if the train is badly designed or extremely old, like NY subway
@iNezerroth
@iNezerroth Жыл бұрын
There's less friction due to smaller and slicker contact surface. They do make a lot of noise when rails are not welded together though.
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
That’s as long as the wheel profile matches the curve radius. Once the radius gets tighter, the flanges come into effect and you will hear flange squeal. Also, the flanges are what guides the trains through turnouts aka switches.
@daywalker________7677
@daywalker________7677 Жыл бұрын
This is why flanges must be at a certain thickness. A thin flange can split a switch, causing a derailment.
@abhinav7885
@abhinav7885 Жыл бұрын
My dude, you post sick bass AND know about traction systems? Pretty cool
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
@@abhinav7885 I make Bass music but also into everything about the railway system. 👍🏻
@abhinav7885
@abhinav7885 Жыл бұрын
@@Bassotronics what a legend
@abhinav7885
@abhinav7885 Жыл бұрын
@@Bassotronics I had a question, what do you recommend me to start getting in to railway engineering? I am an EE and wish to work in this field.
@dewinchy
@dewinchy Жыл бұрын
6:15 The solution in short: As the railway turns (let's say to the right), the rails slightly move to one direction (to the right), but the wheels want to roll straight because of their momentum. As the wheels are semi-conical, the contact position between wheel and railway is shifted (to the left) and that creates a semi-conical rotation, where the wheel automatically roll to the side (to the right) and takes the curve.
@shreeveda
@shreeveda Жыл бұрын
Good explanation. Different people have different ways of expressing the same point. We need to appreciate the intention.
@wayneyadams
@wayneyadams Жыл бұрын
You sound as bad as the video.
@beltanewalk8797
@beltanewalk8797 Жыл бұрын
Not forgetting that the inner wheel has to compensate for the shorter distance travelled while being on a fixed axle, and the outer wheel travelling a longer distance on the same fixed axle during bends.
@mapleext
@mapleext Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I found it a little hard to understand with the robot- like voice in the video
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
rather than thinking in terms of cones and conical things- think of it as modifying the operating radius of the wheel. a smaller radii on the inside wheel is going to make the axle turn in the direction of the track curve.
@Original-q11
@Original-q11 Жыл бұрын
I was working on the central line (London underground) when they got the new trains, the wheels were designed differently to what the old stock ran on which resulted in the tracks getting worn... Large sections had to be shut down at a time to replace the track. We weren't privy to the possible upgrade of the wheel set up but this video is interesting.
@particletheory8776
@particletheory8776 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know why i am watching this at 3am but it’s quite fascinating to understand rail working
@youenn2180
@youenn2180 Жыл бұрын
Well explained , shows us that it was almost impossible to find out by ourselves how that all worked actually ! and it started already in the nineteenth century with all the machines needed to produce such fine pieces ... wonderful !
@portobellotent
@portobellotent Жыл бұрын
Who was the genius who developed train wheels shape in the 19th century? We all learned about the first locomotives, but nothing about wheel and track profiles! Till you posted this - Thank you
@ngarber
@ngarber Жыл бұрын
@@portobellotent Flanged wheels go back to the 1600's. Don't know about the conical wheel shape.
@dangeary2134
@dangeary2134 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I did a lot of research on this. Out in the “road,” the wheels act like this, steering themselves. I had hung around with a switching crew for a summer. The most incredible parts were where the curves were so sharp, that the wheels squealed and the flanges were taking over the job. I always found this fascinating to the point that had some railroad had taken a chance on me, I would have made a career out of it. Well, I got stuck in a construction and trucking job where I was sometimes working in the worst of conditions. They had no clue. Their loss, not mine!
@steveperry1344
@steveperry1344 Жыл бұрын
i always wondered what the life expectancy of the track and wheels would be especially in the turns. i had a whole career 40+ years working as a lineman for a municipal power company but i have often thought that in my next life i would work for the railroad like in track maintenance and construction or perhaps even driving an engine. i think it would be a good calling for guys to get into. one other thing i've always thought of is the fact that they have turned a lot of the old railroad beds into bike paths which is good but thought they would have been better served if they had turned into use as public transportation between towns and without track but on tires. just an idea.
@prestonburton8504
@prestonburton8504 Жыл бұрын
very cool. i'm envious!
@dangeary2134
@dangeary2134 Жыл бұрын
@@steveperry1344 I had considered that, too, It’s actually a good idea. But, I did the research as a kid, and thought, maybe a few concessions? The Michelin brothers came up with a flanged rubber tire that rode on rails, just like todays trains do. They didn’t like the steel-on-steel noice while traveling around France. There were a lot of other issues as well. But, the fact that the grades are still there. Sure, some of the bridges would need to be replaced, but the surveys wouldn’t be needed, and it wouldn’t be hard to take control of those old grades again. Who knows, maybe we would have floating trains above them in the future?
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
@@dangeary2134 the flange was not made of rubber in michelin's micheline scheme- it was steel augmenting an inflatable traction-tire configuration. if it lost car- the wheel's base contours and flange took over. budd used the design back in the 30's after goodyear's wheels repeatedly derailed in testing.
@dangeary2134
@dangeary2134 Жыл бұрын
@@tommurphy4307 actually, the later versions were. My college thesis, I did a lot of research on the subject. As it turns out, a layer of rubber over a piece of steel that is used for traction tends to either separate, or suffer internal damage, splitting the rubber. Inflatable rubber tires, even for trains, did work. After the flanged rubber wheel was developed, they suffered from wet rails, and they slipped. They added sipes to the tire that simply went crosswise on the tread area. They had the effect of being a squeegee for the following tires. The sipes also had and unforeseen effect on the tires. They didn’t wear out as fast. The Michelin brothers did some really serious development to rubber, even before tubeless “clincher” tires and rims were developed.
@OrianaReis
@OrianaReis Жыл бұрын
Thank you for adding what would happen at the end if the smaller conical shape were on the outside rather than the inside. I'd been trying to imagine it as you were describing the correct configuration.
@prestonburton8504
@prestonburton8504 Жыл бұрын
i started my engineering career with rail support maintenance and was so surprised as how this occurs. Cars and locomotive trucks must be re-turned to put that profile, as well as the rail. specialized equipment is used periodically to regrind the rails. amazing!
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
really? even 5-year-old boys who played with lionel post-war trains knew that- i was one of them.
@prestonburton8504
@prestonburton8504 Жыл бұрын
@@tommurphy4307 cool - my dad was not big on mechanical items so sadly i only saw trains in displays.
@VenkateshmurthyVK
@VenkateshmurthyVK Жыл бұрын
Very nicely explained. Many times I wondered how rigidely connected wheels, in the absence of a differential manages to negotitate curves without slippage. Your clipping cleared all my doubts. Thank you sir.
@dharmadasadushyantha1108
@dharmadasadushyantha1108 Жыл бұрын
im agree with u sir.
@shreeveda
@shreeveda Жыл бұрын
True. Agree. I thought the flanges did the job.
@dharmadasadushyantha1108
@dharmadasadushyantha1108 Жыл бұрын
tx, Im not sir, no need of saying sir. We all humans, im Darme,from srilanka. Im proffessional engineer, in electrical Cheers
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
there is no such absence- the entire wheelset acts like a differential due to the wheels' varying radii.
@leong108
@leong108 Жыл бұрын
They slip. They always slip.
@stage6fan475
@stage6fan475 Жыл бұрын
I live near railroad tracks, often walk near them and never noticed all this. Thanks.
@shreeveda
@shreeveda Жыл бұрын
You could have learnt by lying down between the tracks, and watching the wheels when a train went above you, safely. 😄👍
@chinaff6793
@chinaff6793 Жыл бұрын
@@shreeveda 💀🤣
@editfarkas4503
@editfarkas4503 Жыл бұрын
An amazing animation and clear explanation. I've never thought simple - actually, as I've learnt today, by far not so simple - rail tracks and wheels require this much sophisticated design. Thank you so much for this video. I've found it just by accident but now I'm looking forward to watching the previous ones, too.
@craigstergriffin2097
@craigstergriffin2097 3 ай бұрын
Been wondering about how this works for years. Puzzle solved. Thanks!
@dipankarnaiya7296
@dipankarnaiya7296 Жыл бұрын
even a blind can understood clearly.... thank you.... well described... ❤️
@pixelapse9613
@pixelapse9613 Жыл бұрын
This channel deserves 10M subs
@johnmehaffey9953
@johnmehaffey9953 Жыл бұрын
Always knew that the wheels were slightly conical but this demo makes the actual physics of the conical shape easily understood, before when I was explaining that train wheels were slightly offset the ones I was talking with couldn’t really believe me but now I’ve got something that explains it better than I can
@casualcampaigns
@casualcampaigns Жыл бұрын
Fool
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
there are no 'physics' unless the wheels are turning- the shape of the wheel-treads are designed to operate using differing radii in curves and this also illustrates why gauge accuracy is so very important.
@marauderslide5782
@marauderslide5782 Жыл бұрын
Now I have learned something I didnt know anything about, and that I have never even thought could be an issue in rail engineering. Thank you!
@james-kh7oi
@james-kh7oi 7 ай бұрын
this should be taught in schools...very good. thanks
@thakare7788
@thakare7788 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing explanation! The graphics you created specially to explain the mechanics behind the design of rail tracks and wheels is so very effective and appreciable. The way you have explained the whole thing is so easy to understand. This is how complex concepts need to be taught. Three cheers!
@serraxer
@serraxer Жыл бұрын
True.
@mr2010GM
@mr2010GM Жыл бұрын
a picture is worth a thousand words.
@LKDesign
@LKDesign Жыл бұрын
Such a video voiced by an actual human with a firm grasp of the English language would be much appreciated.
@arun6face-entertainment438
@arun6face-entertainment438 10 ай бұрын
Excellent - semi conical shape wheels - railway track -rails trigonometry mathematics calculation -centrifugal force - application - simply superb
@bertnelson1315
@bertnelson1315 Жыл бұрын
MAN that was a LOT of math!!!! I took train wheels for granted, but now I wonder who in the world came up with all this knowledge. I mean it is ridiculous. It’s a “simple”…wheel but it’s not! SOOOOOOOO cool to even get a GLIMPSE of the engineering involved!
@frasermitchell9183
@frasermitchell9183 Жыл бұрын
You give the basics, but it's more involved than that. Without restraints on the wheel set, the forces that tend to centre the wheelset tend to cause it to overshoot and then hunting occurs where the wheelset shunts back and forth laterally. This phenomenon was extensively researched by British Rail scientists in the 70s and the science of self steering established. Up to this point it had never really been investigated properly. It then became possible to design the wheelset suspension to remove the hunting and for true self steering to be established. Eventually, it was found that the wheel flanges had rusted on the inside as they had played no part in steering the vehicle ! The BR scientists nicknamed them "the crash barriers". Of course, once the curve exceeds a certain value of "tightness" as in yards and sidings, self steering is not possible, and the flanges guide the vehicle accompanied by much squealing as wheels skid on the rails.
@quadrannilator
@quadrannilator Жыл бұрын
I completely understood what you said. What I was wondering was, when you design an entire railway system (say for a country), don't you also take that into account? In India our railways are not only nationalized, but we just have a few types of bogie/coach designs per track guage size in operation. Therefore, once the wheel base and axle width is set, it would be trivial to figure out what is the minimum curvature that a particular bogie configuration can move over without its flanges contacting the rails. So why do railways design their systems such that the flanges would intentionally rub/slide A LOT as the track curves? Besides the corrosion issue you mentioned
@frasermitchell9183
@frasermitchell9183 Жыл бұрын
@@quadrannilator The cost of the infrastructure would be far greater if a minimum curve radius was defined for the routes, so it's a matter of balancing objectives. Our new High Speed 2 with a design speed of 250 mph has very large radius curves, but the trains still have to negotiate track at stations and depots. Here is a typical piece of line to be built assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/532883/C223-CSI-CV-DPP-030-000003-FPD.pdf Pretty straight, eh ? The line is proving very costly to build
@quadrannilator
@quadrannilator Жыл бұрын
@@frasermitchell9183 Hmm, I think I understood. The minimum free curvature is too large. Accepting less curvature for wheel slip is a better compromise vs. ideal curvature
@ppdan
@ppdan Жыл бұрын
I think what you are referring to is hunting oscillation. In the most common wheel design it only becomes problematic above 160km/h.
@maidsandmuses
@maidsandmuses Жыл бұрын
Many bogies, esp. on high-speed passenger trains, have dampers fitted between the frames of the car and bogie that limit the speed of bogie rotation and hence dampen the hunting. Worn-out rotation dampers can often be identified by a hunting bogie. These systems still have a resonance frequency and hence they can only be designed to work efficiently within certain speed limits.
@jjano2320
@jjano2320 Жыл бұрын
The track system is basically the same since it started. That says a lot for the inventor.
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics Жыл бұрын
The inventor is probably still getting the paychecks slingshotted to heaven.
@kannaiya1000
@kannaiya1000 Жыл бұрын
very informative and very beautifully explained. never realised that the flanges are slightly conical. thank you.
@amarbomaschannel
@amarbomaschannel Жыл бұрын
Terima kasih kawanku telah berbagi informasinya
@Hugh2b
@Hugh2b Жыл бұрын
Lots of good information but I'm left with questions (in case they do any revisions). The graphics for the force vectors are all drawn by someone who didn't understand that the length of each vector is proportional to its magnitude. The big resultant should be the diagonal within a rectangle and the horizontal component is the short side of that rectangle while the vertical component (resisting gravity in this case) is the long side. Next, I kept asking what keeps the wheel from getting so far to the side to have the flange touch the rail to make that squealing sound we all dislike (the sound that every Bostonian at Gov't Center hates). The video leaves the stability question only half-answered. Then there is the purpose to all that random, irregular thump, thump, thumping. Also, was this written by a person who made dozens of grammar errors or a computer who writes, mostly correctly, what it hears - leaving those errors untouched?
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
people who REALLY understand wouldn't even have to draw anything... but that would take mechanical and spatial aptitude. maybe some strength of materials knowledge would help.
@soumendas
@soumendas Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. I used to know different explanation, you have clarified with correct information. Thanks 🙂
@Mervyn-oi3wb
@Mervyn-oi3wb 19 күн бұрын
I knew about this but I had trouble explaining it. Now I can direct folks to this website. Many thanx!
@NJTDover
@NJTDover Жыл бұрын
This is good old engineering explained with today's excellent graphics. Hats off to those engineers from the Industrial Revolution.
@brianhealey5286
@brianhealey5286 Жыл бұрын
Lucid explanation...very well done...now I understand the Amtrak lurching and long period sway at high speed. Good stuff!
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
now explain the norfuck-southern approach...
@kennethbigboi8913
@kennethbigboi8913 Жыл бұрын
The ratio of triangle (sin and cos) explanation finally made me understand! Assume hypotenuse is constant (non changing). Any angle change set by the wheel at that point in time changes the horizontal and vertical (ratio of opposite and adjacent over hypotenuse). But since hypotenuse is constant only the other sides change length and the length is equal to the force!
@kenfrievalt7826
@kenfrievalt7826 Жыл бұрын
Ken do attitude
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
precisely why its better to think in terms of varying wheel radii and their effect on the steering of the truck, as well as how that steering effect relates to the curvature of the rails.
@kennethbigboi8913
@kennethbigboi8913 7 ай бұрын
​@@tommurphy4307interesting indeed, so the change in length (force) corresponds to a change in contact of the rail to the differing diameter of the wheel shape?
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your most valuable lesson about the act of a railroad train. It convinces me more that railroad trains are not driven: they are only operated by engineers and other train operators. This lesson teaches me how flange wheels make slivering sounds when the wheels turn according to the bend of the rails.⭐🌟
@Cokie907
@Cokie907 Жыл бұрын
I feel like I was just taught railroad mechanics by an Indian. Thanks Chief!
@williamhendrix3253
@williamhendrix3253 Жыл бұрын
this does a good job of explaining this but I wonder why it is so difficult for engineering types to use articles properly.
@islandseeker1260
@islandseeker1260 Жыл бұрын
Haha, I was thinking the same thing. The animation was great, but the narration was horrible. Don't these KZfaq creators actually read their script before getting the robo-voice to read it, and then don't they actually listen to the video themselves to avoid getting embarrassed about all the grammatical mistakes?!
@willwhite1987
@willwhite1987 Жыл бұрын
A lot of eastern European languages, like polish or russian, do not have articles. Speakers of these languages almost never used "the", "a" or "an" prior to learning english, which makes it difficult to understand their actual use and spot the errors. The mother tongue of the creator of this video very likely does not include these articles either. That doesn't mean the video wouldn't benefit from some proof-reading. I also found the mistakes distracting.
@-danR
@-danR Жыл бұрын
It's from India, creators are (likely) Hindi speakers. No articles, little plural distinction. The narration appears to be STT. That said, English is very widely used in India, and there should be no trouble at all finding some average joe who can clean up most the grammar. The channel has very few vids as yet; perhaps they will start tidying their presentations.
@Rotiya_
@Rotiya_ Жыл бұрын
Keep making videos about train stuff.. I love these
@phantomgameryt3075
@phantomgameryt3075 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful friend and good explanation.thamk you
@pablocespedes9585
@pablocespedes9585 Жыл бұрын
Genius old engineering! Thanks for an excellent explanation!
@konstantinosdelioglou
@konstantinosdelioglou Жыл бұрын
Great video and very educational!! Thank you! 🙂🙂🙂
@shrabonibabu
@shrabonibabu Жыл бұрын
Thanks to the animation creator and who explained the physics. Excellent presentation.
@pinzguy4937
@pinzguy4937 Жыл бұрын
I understand the differential effect and camber angles in automotive steering. This video makes complete sense, very good!
@whitedevil2655
@whitedevil2655 Жыл бұрын
U explained me a 200 pages book in 8 minutes . You're Amazing bro, Try to make people understand everything in this world keep it up 👍
@Choober65
@Choober65 Жыл бұрын
Whomever figured all this out in the first place was a genius. I've loved railways all my life and I just learned this today.
@hubertdixon6584
@hubertdixon6584 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and makes sense. Can or has someone explained the cross anchor bogie which improves curve handling.
@krishnasai7252
@krishnasai7252 11 ай бұрын
No words 😂😂😂😂 amazing views of railway wheel mechanism
@wakilahmedansari3296
@wakilahmedansari3296 7 ай бұрын
The animation is super that anybody can understand easily, Railway Engineering is my favorite I like it from my childhood my father always took me to railway line and everything stated practically, I miss him always May Allah give him on highest position in paradise aameen❤❤🙏
@nishantshirude3520
@nishantshirude3520 Жыл бұрын
Very nicely explained! Thank you very much!
@stickyfox
@stickyfox Жыл бұрын
the vector components at 4:20 are typically demonstrated by drawing a rectangle with F as the diagonal, and the components as the height and width of the rectangle.
@jonathan-6948
@jonathan-6948 Жыл бұрын
Not only demonstrated. They talk about cos Angel and show random length.
@charlesbradford6738
@charlesbradford6738 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. The blue arrow is the "resultant" force and only slightly longer than the vertical arrow. The horizontal arrow is shown way out of scale: it should be very short. Otherwise very nicely done.
@AK-kn9ob
@AK-kn9ob Жыл бұрын
Wow!! .....Engineers ........you guys who designed this out of the principles of physics ....are the real deal!!
@pums999
@pums999 Жыл бұрын
Awesome 3D Spectogram Explanation
@youtuuba
@youtuuba Жыл бұрын
This seems to be only partially true. For certain, the semi-conicity of the trail wheels helps keep them centered on the rails without the flanges doing all the work. But the part of this video that tries to describe both wheels on an axle as acting purely like a large truncated cone is at least somewhat specious. Even if this effect was entirely accurate, it does not explain how the wheels always follow curved tracks regardless of other forces (not mentioned in this video). Also not mentioned is that on modern trains, each bogie also steers passively, and the flanges definitely help the bogies reorient themselves to keep the wheels best aligned with the rails. In short, this video makes a good point, but the overattributes the affect as if it is the ONLY thing contributing to the train's steering.
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
the flanges don't do a damned thing unless there is a sharp curve such as what is common in yards. the wheel treads and flange-radii curves do it all otherwise.
@sunny6915
@sunny6915 Жыл бұрын
Irrespective of a few extremely minor flaws...it's an excellent explanation on something I did not know before 👍👍👍👍👍
@UfirstAccounting
@UfirstAccounting Жыл бұрын
It is one of the best explanations i have ever encluntered on this topic. I wish they would teach the same way in school, colleges, and universities. Thank you very much for making this wonderful video
@_ricky_
@_ricky_ Жыл бұрын
No one thought a train had a steering mechanism…. 0:05
@warringtonfaust1088
@warringtonfaust1088 Жыл бұрын
Was this known at the outset of rail roading, or was it developed through trial and error?
@paulsawczyc5019
@paulsawczyc5019 Жыл бұрын
I imagine that the flange on the wheel - must have always been there.
@smraghupathy99
@smraghupathy99 Жыл бұрын
Very good excellent explanation as well as animation.
@hootinouts
@hootinouts Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Very well explained. I learned something new today. Thank you.
@earnesttechie1494
@earnesttechie1494 Жыл бұрын
very clear explanation. Is the same principle at work in two-wheeler counter-steering?
@peer_64
@peer_64 Жыл бұрын
I think that counter-steering has effect on the centrifugal force. The shape of the tires ( conical as the train wheels) are not as important. But this is purely a thought, not scientifically tested by me😉
@clarencegreen3071
@clarencegreen3071 Жыл бұрын
The counter-steering effect arises from the gyroscopic properties of the front wheel of a bicycle or motorcycle. To make a right turn on a motorcycle, for example, you exert a torque on the handlebars to the left and gyroscopic precession causes the front wheel to lean and turn to the right.
@christopherlatham4254
@christopherlatham4254 Жыл бұрын
The animator blew it when showing the vertical and horizontal components of the perpendicular force. The horizontal were typically shown much too large and the vertical too small.
@tennwilcox8663
@tennwilcox8663 Жыл бұрын
Clearly!!
@heinzriemann3213
@heinzriemann3213 Жыл бұрын
In a mathematical sense that's true, but for illustration purposes he did the right thing.
@ag-om6nr
@ag-om6nr Жыл бұрын
Picky picky ! A Very difficult technical subject , which the animator has done an excellent job of explaining n ! I am curious as to what Animations you have produced ?
@janericnilsson7777
@janericnilsson7777 Жыл бұрын
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@fazergazer
@fazergazer Жыл бұрын
The vertical component should be the static weight. So yes, it seems the vertical force is larger
@komatlanagavenkataganapath4355
@komatlanagavenkataganapath4355 Жыл бұрын
A Lovely engineering systems,
@waltervetri2476
@waltervetri2476 Жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration and explanation .Thank you,Sir .Vetri South Africa 🙏🇿🇦🙏
@radhabinodinibhuyan5891
@radhabinodinibhuyan5891 Жыл бұрын
wooow
@SWAMPHUNTER644
@SWAMPHUNTER644 Жыл бұрын
What you don't mention is that the wooden ties on curves are subjected to a lot of wear. My college professor in Wood Products Engineering used to say that the Southern Pacific railroad didn't use creosote treated ties on their curved sections because the ties wore out so quickly from stress and vibration and needed to be replaced so frequently that the extra cost of treatment wasn't worth it.
@SmokinOak
@SmokinOak Жыл бұрын
Railroads haven't used creosote soaked ties for decades do to them harming the environment. I've replaced thousands of ties, and the only creosote ties I came across was from the 1950's.
@mrerok
@mrerok Жыл бұрын
@@SmokinOak nyc still uses creosote ties
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
yes but that also goes back to the days of steam-powered locomotives and track fires. many roads didn't use creosote ties just for that reason- especially in the deserts and other dry areas. i think the SP knew a lot more about track and trestle fires than most roads did.
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
@@SmokinOak really was economically-motivated since coal has shot up in price. the roads and creosote production relied heavily on coal back in the day but now many roads don't even use wood ties.
@omarkitoja597
@omarkitoja597 2 ай бұрын
Interesting vidio i do understand now how it works realy...... Omar from mombasa kenya.
@ArcticManHockeyFan
@ArcticManHockeyFan Жыл бұрын
Cool to watch I built wheel sets for trains for a living. Very cool.
@georgeplagianos6487
@georgeplagianos6487 Жыл бұрын
I like your exclamations very much . they say using rails instead of trucks to transport goods. I think I heard once that once the wheels are moving it will keep going and slow down eventually. In that case it will uses less fuel pre mile. Doesn't need as much fuel because these heavy structures won't stop so easily just like a bowling ball.. could make a video and possibly to tell us what forces are at play there. Just started watching like your programs very much. many of us appreciate it
@clarencegreen3071
@clarencegreen3071 Жыл бұрын
The effect you are referring to is rolling friction or rolling resistance. It is related to the amount the materials deform during the action of rolling. The rolling friction of steel on steel is far less than a rubber tire rolling on asphalt or concrete. It follows that rail is more efficient than using trucks as far as fuel required per mile is concerned.
@steve_lehr
@steve_lehr Жыл бұрын
If they are going to take the time to explain the concept through detailed graphics and animations, why not put a little more time into getting the grammar right and maybe using a real human to provide the narration?
@amarroy7586
@amarroy7586 Ай бұрын
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@vindyakelum90
@vindyakelum90 11 ай бұрын
Very useful and important session ❤❤
@myhandlehasbeenmishandled
@myhandlehasbeenmishandled Жыл бұрын
And this is why you need people with good attention to detail.
@weeb3277
@weeb3277 Жыл бұрын
The train knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
@rickwhitescarver8526
@rickwhitescarver8526 Жыл бұрын
The singular vs plural and the lack of using articles in the text of this was very distracting i realize it was a computer generated voice but damn
@BOMBON187
@BOMBON187 Жыл бұрын
Amazing that the design hasn't really changed for more than 100 years.
@tommurphy4307
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
just like a GM product....
@batuwitamaithri9789
@batuwitamaithri9789 Жыл бұрын
ගොඩක් වැදගත් හුගක් දේවල් දැන ගත්තා?👍🇱🇰
@EJP286CRSKW
@EJP286CRSKW Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as centrifugal force. There is centripetal force, which is tangential, not radial. This is high school physics. Rails are not tilted inwards: the tops are ground to match the conicity of the wheels. When you said 'we already said ...', you hadn't. You didn't mention that the bogeys can swivel w.r.t. the carriage. You left out about a thousand 'the's. Please don't perpetrate misinformation or illiteracy.
@clarencegreen3071
@clarencegreen3071 Жыл бұрын
I would say there IS such a thing as centrifugal force: it's the reaction to centripetal force. You know, action/reaction. Also, I would say that centripetal force is radial, not tangential. Otherwise, you comment is spot on.
@EJP286CRSKW
@EJP286CRSKW Жыл бұрын
@ClarenceGreen You just failed high school physics. The reaction to centripetal force would be back down the track where the train came from, not at ninety degrees. If there was such a thing as centrifugal force, a derailed train would fall off sideways, radially, instead of ploughing straight ahead, tangentially, as it actually does. Look it up. You are talking arrant nonsense.
@clarencegreen3071
@clarencegreen3071 Жыл бұрын
@@EJP286CRSKW Centripetal and centrifugal forces are both radial, neither of which is "back down the track." I guess it's a good thing I did not take physics in high school. Did you?
@EJP286CRSKW
@EJP286CRSKW Жыл бұрын
@@clarencegreen3071 Centripetal force is tangential. I already said that, and I also said that the _reaction_ to centripetal force would be back down the track: not the centripetal force itself, which would (still) be tangential: a distinction which you don't appear to have grasped. Yes I did take high school physics, and rather more besides, and I'm not surprised in the slightest to hear that you didn't. And if centripetal and centrifugal force are both radial as you claim,what is the difference between them? You don't seem to know much about it.
@clarencegreen3071
@clarencegreen3071 Жыл бұрын
@@EJP286CRSKW While I did not take physics in high school, I studied physics for nine years beyond high school (PhD), taught physics and electronics for 33 years at the college level, and wrote a rather successful textbook on introductory physics: Technical Physics by Clarence R. Green, 1984. You can check it out. Are you a troll? What is your game? In any event, I'm out of here. This is just silly.
@josephshulman6666
@josephshulman6666 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating , now I'm gonna research Conics thanks !!!
@kishoreonline
@kishoreonline Жыл бұрын
That was mind blowing explanation i haven’t seen before 👏👏
@trailwayt9H337
@trailwayt9H337 8 ай бұрын
I am thinking this same subject. So very Excellent explaination. Good 👍👍
@archilies100
@archilies100 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining this principle in such lucid and easy manner. Much appreciated!!
@mohammadinamullah9380
@mohammadinamullah9380 Ай бұрын
Excellent information.
@fabiopeluso3688
@fabiopeluso3688 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely perfect explanation! My compliments!
@joebarrett4353
@joebarrett4353 Жыл бұрын
fascinating. very well explained
@jaspreetmodi
@jaspreetmodi Жыл бұрын
the title of the video is the smartest catch, otherwise there are plenty of similar videos i skipped past talking of engg., wheels etc.. This video must have also told who designed and showed confidence to run tonns of humans on such precise calculation to probably micrometres.
@aac1262
@aac1262 Жыл бұрын
Great Information, very well explained Thanks
@Ready_Set_Boom
@Ready_Set_Boom Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Kevin Malone narrating. “WHY WASTE TIME SAY LOT WORD WHEN FEW WORD DO TRICK”
@jonsteeby3883
@jonsteeby3883 Жыл бұрын
This would be a great Test Question to solve in Class. Always enjoy see practical examples of math/trig in the real world. Nice work.
@ELIASyIBARRA
@ELIASyIBARRA 5 ай бұрын
Very comprehensively explained. Good job. Thanks.
@johnysebastian9480
@johnysebastian9480 Жыл бұрын
You are a great engineer, excellent presentation ❤
@yoyoproo8758
@yoyoproo8758 11 ай бұрын
❤❤ this is really good explanation 💯 bro
@rishisunak2
@rishisunak2 Жыл бұрын
Great education
@Nyck461
@Nyck461 Жыл бұрын
Good and scientific explanation. Never thought about that.
@-Truth-Is-Singular
@-Truth-Is-Singular Жыл бұрын
In high-school, I never gave a damn about circumferential diameters. Now in my late 20’s I can’t get enough of them.
@rajshekharkamoji8750
@rajshekharkamoji8750 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the imp. useful and amazing interesting ಇನ್ಫಾರ್ಮಶನ್.. Hats off❄️to mechanical engineering & science
@rahulpareek5160
@rahulpareek5160 10 ай бұрын
Very nicely explained with superb animation. I can relate it well being a science student butit was very well explained that a layman can understand well
@kax
@kax Жыл бұрын
KZfaq recommended this video while I was thinking this problem on a city train. Well done KZfaq
@peterblack9854
@peterblack9854 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@charlesferdinand422
@charlesferdinand422 8 ай бұрын
@0:35 "Thus, train weight is supported by yhe wheels." -NO SHIT GENIUS
@arturasmarkovas892
@arturasmarkovas892 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for video, one more thing to mention is one rail higher then other on curve. 😊
@langstonreese7077
@langstonreese7077 Жыл бұрын
I first learned this when I used an r46 train for my Roblox game.
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