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Roy is a great talker and full of enthusiasm. Thanks Alan you sure know how to pick them.

Must say and always forget to say big thanks to Allen for bringing such informative videos.thankd again Allen.keep them coming mate

Roy you are a natural teacher

What an excellent video and explanation. I'm an avid DIY'er and clearly never likely to install one of these system, but I am very pleased to have learnt how they work.

What an excellent video, this is just what I was asking in one of my last posts to you, "if you're getting XXX, then it could be XXX, or if XXX is happening, then look for XXX", bloody marvellous, more like this please. Oh, and an excellent all-round explanation of the unvented cylinder, Thank you.

I did unvented G3 course with Baxi in Dartford some years ago. Highly recommended training for all trainee plumbers/gas & oil engineers.👍👍👍

Allen nice video Roy excellent illustration Viva good training Thankyou all👍👍

Absolutely AMAZING thank you so much gents. Currently doing my G3 so this was very informative.

Allen you and Roy together make some team👌 great videos always👍

awesome video thank you Roy and Allen.

Wow this is explained very well. Excellent.

Such a wonderful teachers It realy benefits me personally There is one thing u guys could do is when talking about valves u could zoom that valve in and it will help alot more And the rest of the video is absolutely spot on Well done 👏

Thank you sirs for a good teaching. Very deep, simple and bright. I could understand very well all about unvented. Almighty bless.

Brilliant videos guys. Really helpful.

Thank you very much your video provide good technique in grassroots language. Easy to comprehend provided the motivation for others . I always look at your video. Thank you.

Excellent video, extremely well explained

Thank you kind Sirs for the free education, it's truly appreciated.

Thank you Allan/Roy I’m going for my g3 ticket tomorrow and its helped me get the background

Excellent explanation 👍

Brilliant video 👍

Great video , thank you

Great video thank you

Wonderful video

Brilliant video thanks

Brilliant video, thank you 🙏🏼

Very good video 👍

Thank you. Very detailed overview. Great job! Dripping valves might sometimes be cleared simply by opening them as you showed, and flushing particles out.

Great video

Please do a video on how to drain an Unvented cylinder. Thank you

Thanks very much

excellent

Great Video

Yer like that 👍, got re-sit next month to on these , can't wait 🤣

Good job Allen

Hi Allan, great training videos but I think you could do with explaining positioning of the expansion vessel and where it’s piped into and why? And explain balanced water coming of the multi function valve otherwise great video

Terrific video again, very informative. Thanks for taking your time to do these videos. Just a thought Allen, you mentioned in a previous video that you don't make any money off these videos, I think you should. The whole point , as I see it, is to raise money for CANDLELIGHTERS and raising the standard in plumbing. I'd be happy to look at an advertisement if you got another source of revenue for a worthy cause and all your hard work. It's just a thought, but a good one I think.

Hi allen could you an in depth video about the hot water thermostat thats built on the side of the unvented cylinder on how to test and its functionality please thankyou 👍

Hi Allen, just wanted to say a massive thank you for your well put together easy to follow videos, I'm starting my Gas Engineer course next month as a new entrant and your videos have been a massive help for me to get my head around certain things! Any recommendations for a newby like myself about to step into the industry?

Really great video.

I like Roy he one of the Good ones

Excellent 🌹👍👍

Nicely explained , have you got video on heat only and unvented indirect cylinder videos

Please make a on Unvented complete installation. Specially wiring and all requirements. Many thanks

Great Videos i've watched about 5 of them this weekend. Just had a bit of advise as another cause of a TPRV activating. I've had 2 ports letting by because of debris and/or faulty actuators keeping 2 port actuators open.

Hi nice video like always , I have a question please . Because I have to replace my downstairs cloakroom tap 🚰, and aren’t any isolation valve on it . So how can isolate the hot water side ? I understand I can shut off the main water supply to the cylinder but do I need open in same time a hot water tap in the same time and drain down all the cylinder?

In new installations is there any requirement to fit a anti legionella valve to the pressure vessel to stop a build up of bacteria in the dead leg pipework /pressure vessel?

Thanks for this video. Consider production improvements in sound quality but content is great.

Do you reccomend fitting a magnaclean to the central heating return to the boiler?

Greetings from the south coast. Not an installer, but interested to know how all the gubbins works. Many thanks

Hi Allen, I’m Thinking of converting a 2 bed terraced property to a 4-5 bed 2 story HMO with 4 en-suites Which heating system should be installed for the property. And what boiler? What would be estimated cost? I’m based in manchester. Thanks in advance.👍🏼

Hi Allen, In this setup I see the In let Control Valve Group is a fair distance from the Tundish, thus the expansion valve would be greater than 600mm for the D1 run, as such I assume this does not meet G3 regs?

Can you put them on a gravity feed?

The latest issue i had was expansion vessel connected to the balanced cold water before the check valve..When firing up, pressure was tripping reliefs.. once expansion vessel moved over to the hot side of the inlet bloc, problem resolved and expansion vessel now doing its job.. Have also seen installations with expansion relief valves installed before the cylinder and only the TPV.. Remember D1 and D2 sizes.. get Inlet bloc & expansion vessel above cylinder . would be so good if they started to build cylinders with intelligence.. pressure & temperature gauges!!

What way is best to calculate the d2 discharge pipe as you can either add what the bends etc equat to onto the length of the pipe stated or you can deduct what the bends etc equat to from the section in the graph for d2 (up to 'stated' size) both ways get an answer in a different way but does the t3 qualification expect you to do one formula?

If I wanted to install a unvented cylinder in a basement with no drains, could the discharge pipe be terminated at the concrete floor within the basement? And the condense pipe be pumped out to a suitable drain point.

Hi Allen if the coil in the cylinder is compromised. Would this cause the system pressure to increase or decrease?

we have one of these in our new build, dont understand it at all. our electric bills are so high, we can only think its the leccy from the immersion heater in this. is there anyway we can turn it off and just use the boiler without the cylinder or not?

Very well explained Roy!if we have a expansion vessel for heating how do we recharge the vessel.Is it by turning cold isolator off and drain it from radiator drain valve and recharge on expansion vessel or anyway different. Please help as I get a lot of them where pressure keeps going up and I dont know where to drain it from.thanks

Can you install a Direct unvented cylinder on the 10th floor , in a high raise building?

Hi Allen I have a customer with an internal expansion vessel on an unvented cylinder. I re pressurised the cylinder in the summer due to poor hot water flow and sorted the issue. The customer is reporting another loss of pressure I suspect the internal expansion vessel has failed can I fit an external expansion vessel?

Hi - may I perhaps ask you a technical question about installing a 10litre tiny geyser that is unvented ( only if you dnt mind otherwise please forgive me but I am desperate )I know the risks, liability and warranty issues etc but lets say I dnt care about any of that and connect the inlet and outlet directly without the correct mixer but there is more than sufficient pipe to allow for expansion. You think it will work without blowing ? I wont hold you to it, just wanted an opinion as you an expert t. I dnt care if it breaks ( as long as it does not explode and cause walls to fall over. I dnt mind if it bursts lightly and spills as it will be over the bath tub. I got nothing to loose ) Thank you. Sorry if this all sounds ridicoulous. Greetings from South Africa.

Maybe a silly question but can you use a combi boiler with an unvented cylinder rather than a system boiler? E.g converting an existing combi

Hi, if expansion vessel is not installed and all other valve are fine and there is no water leak in the tun dish but it still cuts off coil after couple of days. What is possible problem here. Cold feed have different pressures but I installed no return valve at hot water tank out let. It works for few days fine then it cuts off. Will be grateful if you reply.

Good clear information, thanks for that. As a private individual I do not have a G3 ticket, but I need some advice. My system is almost identical to the one in your test set-up. 3 months ago I paid £350 to have a new pressure reducer/relief valve unit and expansion chamber, as part of a service. After 3 months, a problem has developed, I now get a reduced hot water flow rate. Initially it is fast, ( as it was before) then within 10 secs or so it drops off significantly. All visual checks are good, the filter on the PRV is not obstructed. I would like a pointer as to what may be the problem, so I can direct the service company correctly.

I am looking for slimline unvented dual coil cylinder compatible with one coil with solar power cylinder capacity 200liters

Really good video. But I have a question if the combination value set to 3.5 bar how come the standing pressure at the tap was 4 bar. I thought the pressure reducing value part of the combination value would drop the pressure to 3. 5 bar

Hi I have a unvented hot water cylinder in my flat.. When attempting to unscrew my shower bar mixer, hot water continues to pour out of the hot side. I have turned the stopcock tap off and water stops pouring out of the cold side. Do you know how to turn the water supply from the unvented water cylinder off?

Hi Alan my old vented cylinder say he's performing only problem is on the other side it has a red light and says it needs resetting every time I press the reset it goes straight back to Red do you have any ideas why Adele I could sort this please

Problems with my unvented system when either heating or hot water is on, and we run hot tap. Sounds like Motorbike accelerating when you open hot tap, noise is from Pressure reducing valve/non-return valve. Hot pressure reduces within a couple of seconds of running hot tap. Cold water pressure is exceptionally high (according to plumber). The plumber suspects cold water is leeching into hot water somewhere. System looks very similar to that in the video - with pressure vessel. No obvious water discharge in tundish.

Is there anyway possible to do unvented after level 2 6035 without experience?? Was told i can if i have water regs

wouldn't the the last line of defence for the unvented cylinder be the overheat stat on boiler kicking in when the return temperature is high and not the TPRV on the cyclinder

What would make hot water flow after approx. 5 minutes reduce to just more than a trickle

Should your expansion vessel have a drain off valve fitted? according to VODA who conduct our legionella's checks the water in the expansion vessel could be a breeding place for the bacteria, as it is stagnant and needs daining regularly? comments please

Could a unvented cylinder be connected up to a cold cistern supply with a pump that would provide 3.5 bar of pressure that operated once it detected water flowing through it. Do manufacturers instructions cater for such installations and what would be any advantages / disadvantages ?

Great video. I'm in the process of buying and installing a direct, unvented cylinder for a friend. Do I need to be Trained/G3 qualified in order to install this item?

Do you know how I find out if there is some national organisation(s) that provide service contracts to service these as British Gas (for example) said they won’t touch them?

If water pressure in the building is 2.2 bar what pressure should I have in expansion vessel?

How often to you have to refresh your G3

Inlet control group do they work for the local council?

Do you know anyone in grimsby north east Linco who can serve my cylinder for me please

Was told gas safe won’t sign off unvented cylinders unless a gas appliance exists in the property, so if fit one in a house with an oil or electric boiler they won’t sign it off.

Why not call it a inlet multi valve part ?

I'm confused. If the water expands 1,600 times by volume when it turns to steam, then surely 1 litre of water would expand to 1,600 litres of steam...? How does it get up to 16,000 litres? Thanks

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Doesn't the vessel need a flexible pipe? Also if copper pipe or flexible surely it's a dead leg ,what's to stop bacteria building ?

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an on the job plumber would never crack open a prv, they never reseat and youll be forking out your own cash for a replacement as it wasnt dripping when you arrived

Great Video , Thank you