hope your next project is SLM

I want 20 of them! I didn't say I could afford it, but I want it.

Definitely - Subscribe including notification bell. Holy crap, you did really well. Rarely does anyone throw me off my chair, you definitely did it!

may I ask how do you guys manage moisture on powder? also, which level of face mask should I use when refilling or removing powder?

Are you trying to make me use up all of my remaining credit??? Maybe I can get the bank to increase my car loan by the cost of one of your printers as well as some consumables.

That's the idea 😉😉

@@micronics3d i might buy one. :) if this is the price hehe, but lets see

My bet is this hits the market at double that price and doesn't get released until 2027

Micronics is about to become the Bambu Lab of SLS. 😮

That's what I thought too. But usually industrial SLS power consumption are pretty high. So we might have to redo home electrical cable just for this.

you just said the magic words....constant issues and errors

​@@whatyoudo9773well no such thing a 100% perfect machine without problems

If it actually runs well, I can see me buying one for the office, the fact that you can print the whole volume would producing a lot of smaller parts way more efficient.

I love how the benchies already showed the issue when packing this way, one of the benchies was nested at such a shallow angle that the 100 micron layer steps were very clearly visible.

@@random_youtube_commenter Sorry, what's the point of your comment? I am geniunely curious. Because if you are being sarcastic, I'd think it's a tad misplaced. Don't you think a programmer smart enough to implement Unreal Engine for slicing could figure out how to constrain it to to only using arc angles (or whatever they called) with a bit more time which should reduce the layer lines considerably? Or even a type of setting where you can choose between max packing density vs. max quality.

It's insanely good, actually

And then you just "virtually" shake it like you would in real life to get them to settle into a naturally optimal position. It's hilarious but genius.

It’s so awsome😂

It makes perfect sense when you think about it. Let the physics arrange it optimally for you. You would probably need a 1mm space between objects to prevent parts from sticking to each other.

That’s how some $7000 packaging software works.

"Cheap"

For the technology, it is relatively "cheap".

@@austinmorton5906 That's what I mean, it's like hearing that Ford is selling a decent electric vehicle for $10k all of a sudden. This is significantly cheaper than it's counter parts.

@@austinmorton5906 Yeah sure, but it's still a lot of money.

​@@unwohltaeter3071they just beat out the price of the competition by an order of magnitude. Give it time man, give them credit for making something so cheap.

And a price tag beyond what 95% of the world population could spend on a car, let alone a printer.

3k is a no brainer for me 😂 my car is less then 2k but it drives and is street legal so who gives a shit.​@@Argosh

@@Argoshsometimes good useful steps are still out of reach to the people that would only buy an Ender. It could still be good for a garage business. Assuming it works as claimed it’s half the price of Sintratec’s kit. Don’t go looking at the Fuse 1 system.

@@Argosh 3k is about what a high end consumer laptop costs in the US. It fits nicely into the budget requirements of the prosumer and enthusiast market

@@XecularOfficial two years ago, maybe. Now the X1 Carbon exists.

Oh hey I love your videos! I've been trying to reach out for a collaboration but can't find a way to reach you. Can you send us a message on our website?

First I was skeptical ("here we go" attitude). Then I realized the kid is sincere and knows what he is talking about, then by the end I am pretty much convinced it worth a closer look. Then I come in comments and see this!!! Ben from Applied Science channel says "WOW". Now I am 100% in!

I will be getting one because of this comment!

I wouldn't say top quality. That large part did have a bow in it...

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅

Not just with SLS but with FDM printers too, since now they need to compete with a fully isotropic build process that handles engineering materials with ease

Well done, super impressive, looking forward to you ringing the bell to open trade on Wall Street with your IPO in near future!

Have you been sleeping under a rock? Sintratec and Sinterit are two companies that basically tried the same a few years ago. They went with a price more in the 10k$ range on the first product, but they were new startups trying to shake up the very expensive professional SLS manufacturers too.

@@ProtonOne11 You said it man, it's the price. Any company in the industry would be able to create such a product but none did at that price point. I'd bet most big companies would price such a product higher than their other products due to ease of use. The Sintratec kit you are talking about was double the price, had a much smaller build volume, wasn't nearly as well thought out and was a kit. Nothing against kits but I'd prefer to have such a precise machine prebuilt for me. It's the combination of specs, features and price point that makes this special

good read, thx

well put

I wish I could get my hands on one Even with the 20% margin it's at least 5 years too soon for me to even think about buying it

Technically it might be possible to build a mechanical computer inside the slicer which makes our slicer turing complete???

Analog pid loops for galvos have been done for 40 years.

@@moki123gYup. Why would you even try to do this digitally? It’s a fool’s errand. I find it hilarious that some companies use FPGAs and DSPs clocked at hundreds of MHz with adaptive PID algorithms to try to approach the response of a simple analog PID circuit!

@@simontillson482 I don't see you making this 😂

​@@simontillson482analog pids are just so much more complicated to tune and get right. depending on the scale it is produced its probably worth saving alot of time by fiddling with analog circuitry and instead ajdust some digital pid parameters to get a good pid tunr faster

One step closer to metal.

Based

I guess we just need to wait and find out 😎😎 In the meantime, we are happy to print a few parts for you, just shoot us a message!

@@micronics3d Sounds interesting, will definitely take you up on that offer, how about a toolhead? Stealthburner front face with say, galileo 2 extruder?

I think this is below consumer level pricing. Its not a Ender pricing lol but its still good for hobbyist. My Fiber laser was over $4.5k, my cheaper CO2 laser was over $2k, and so many people in those hobbies are paying much much more from a different company. In reality, $8k is considered "consumer level pricing" for hobbyist machines. Look at Glowforge selling their 50w laser for over $8k+ and tons of people are buying them. This will come down in pricing as more companies jump on board but the hobbyist manufacturing niches are full of people willing to pay under $15k to get something they can make money with.

Yeah, but the minimum system requirements list only Microsoft Windows for his MicroSlicer. I have no problem paying 3000USD for such a machine (if it is working as advertised), but I am absolutely NOT installing Windows. Linux is the way to go, which is also supported by the Unreal Engine.

​@@phibel9303just run a windows VM you noob. The fact that you stated such a comment shows you have 0 tech skills.

@@phibel9303 you can always turn water into wine

The unsintered powder is not wasted, it is reused.

@@phibel9303 use wine I guess, or maybe you need proton because this uses unreal engine ans is more optimised that way

And in 7 or sooner, they might be undercut by 8 Chinese companies of which a few might be as good hardware wise. So, they will have a few years of making some money and then figure out if they will compete with the lower priced competitors or get out of the hobby market altogether. I for one hope they will try their hardest to be the proper consumer option and then not rest on their laurels like a certain once widely hailed, orange-clad FDM company.

@@AntiVaganza you're a glass half empty type person

@@soapxddd I love when strangers on social media think they know each other;). Well done... Now, if you know a bit about the history of what happened in this industry the past 10 years, you could also have said I was a pragmatist or realist. I thoroughly respect the undertaking of this and I do hope they succeed. But it's almost guarenteed that if they do, the Chinese will copy everything in a heartbeat and churn out cheaper products. It has happened over and over again. It's naive to think it wont in this case. And they might very well be able to survive that if they don't fall into the Prusa trap of complacency.

​​@@AntiVaganza agree. Prusa is such a sad story now though. They squandered their most powerful advantages (rapid open source iteration and a loyal customer base) leaving the market to a closed source competitor that wasn't even in the business of producing clones. This machine will surely be cloned very quickly and it's up to them to harness advantages that give them a competitive market argument.

One word: cost

@@tinydiccbandito49533k is hella cheap

Fdm and sla are no match fo sls. Fdm is inferior in all categories besides simplicity and cost. Sla is closer in capabilities to sls when it comes to resolution and overhangs but is much more brittle

​@@tinydiccbandito4953no offense but fdm is quite useful and quite safe overall and the only option today to create multicolor objects. On the other hand SLA are nice minifigures made from chemical hazard. SLS is basically shooting lasers at microplastics and some of those will escape the cleaning process. Again not that great for the environment.

Yeah, if I had only one in my room I'd be the fdn printer, as it's generally safer depending on the plastic used. Can't imagine a resin printer being safe to print with in the same room I sleep in, and I feel sls would get messy after a print.

@@dtibor5903 Yeah sure, I own an fdm printer and it's a great tool for prototyping. I was speaking mainly about the end product - finished prints. FDM is safer and cheaper but its resolution, structural integrity, print strength, supports and so on are simply worse than SLS. There is a reason why SLS printers are so pricey and complicated. It's simply because the end product is so much better that for some applications it's actually worth it

@@Tigery760 i have small resin printer, keep it in a cabinet on an enclosed balcony. The printer itself got taped all over to make it almost completely sealed, so right now i can't feel the smell of the resin in the cabinet. All the cleaning tools fit on an old oven pan

it's pretty much exactly the same as FDM use cases, but parts can be loaded in any orientation and looks a little bit better due to lack of layer lines

@@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov Layer lines still exist. It's really just the the support less structure and fusion between the material that's better.

@@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov The only issue is that you cant use filaments differently like you would with an fdm printer and you cant really do multimaterial prints with powder layering. I would assume that due to how thin each layer would be, that the SLS printer would take some time to print as well. As someone who uses 3d printers for engineering projects and for the aviation hobby, this desktop SLS printer would be the best thing to have for printing parts that often dont result well on fdms like gears, print in place systems, and anything that you would typically need an injection mold for. However some plastics like foaming pla, which i tend to use for rc aircraft, are not options in SLS printing to my knowledge. If you want strength of a part, little to no imperfections, then definitely get an SLS. This is certainly going to be a must have though.

When you’re holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail

You can always find a use. The price however... Don't get me wrong, it's an amazing price but still out of reach for many

Order a sample part for yourself to check it out! www.micronics3d.com/quote

​@@micronics3dI would love to request a sample part, but the webpage states that it is only possible within the USA. I live in the Netherlands.....

Yeah, was a little disappointed that it's not Aluminum-ready, but... it's still awesome.

when your pockets get deeper, plenty of metal SLS machines on the market

Yeah, got excited when I saw the thumbnail, thinking metal capability. Really looking forward to a hobbyist priced metal printer.

Must be getting close now. Surely it's just a fibre laser instead of what looks to be a diode laser that they are using. A fibre laser Engraver is around 3k

Would they need an inert gas input for a metal one to avoid fires? 🔥

If you follow commercial products, then yeah I guess they're plateauing.

@@thecamarokid4230 But what more do they need? They're awesome already

@@WhyAliasIdontNeedOne Where are the cross gantry commercial printers then? The can go twice as fast as coreXY.

@@thecamarokid4230 honestly 99% of us do. I like to call the last 5 years the Creality glut, little to no innovation was made until core xy hit main stream a year and a half ago. I'm hoping to see this pick up steam over the coming years. Seems perfect for mechanical parts I make.

Same, I’ve been wanting sls in the consumer market for years. This is a big win and I’m hopefully able to get one. I imagine demand will be high. Let’s home production can keep up and the wait won’t be too long.

Yeah, we are polishing up a few details right now and it will be available on our website soon :)

I would love to try out out. ​@@micronics3d

Look forward to following your journey. I use FDM printers but would like to see SLS as a feasible option.

They already stated the max layer height in the video, Layer Thickness: 100 - 150 µm. Resin printers go down to 10 to 50 µm.

I agree on the price. If this technology ever gets to half that I'd be very interested, but that is still probably years out. I can see this being great for smaller shops though. Set it up on a workbench somewhere and print out any part you want.

@@DigitalJedi Same. This will be good for engineering companies, fab shops, and super enthusiasts, but this isn't hobbyist level yet. I bet we'll be seeing a lot more options in the next 5 years though - there's a lot of players in the desktop SLS space right now trying to compete for the best mix of price to feature set.

I had them print a dnd mini for me and I am not super impressed to be 100% honest.

It's cool for quick cheap prototyping. There are other printers for better quality prints, but post processing takes time. FDM, as soon as it's done printing, you can test it.

Does this make my X1 Carbon obsolete?

And your 4 BL printers are toys compared to this. SLS is industrial manufacturing.

@@LilApe cool story bro

@@rebuilt_riders2261 Go play with your toys that sell your data to the CCP

The printer is an open-material platform so you are free to use any 3rd part materials as mentioned in the video. SLS powder cost is high but that is going to drop when it become popularized, just like filament and resin prices over the last decade.

You are also ignoring the cost of support material. With the SLS you can reuse with FFF you have to throw away

@@GabrielDeVault I haven't forgotten it, I just deliberately didn't mention it. You're right that support material is thrown away with FDM (and SLA) and that this does not exist with SLS. But alternatively, with SLS the thick walls are necessarily always fully solid (100% infill) whereas in FDM the solid inner parts are typically made of air with 15 to 20% infill. So you're gaining somewhere what you're losing elsewhere. IMHO the lack of support materials is not the feature that makes SLS attractive (even if it is also a good thing due to the absence of any remainting scar after surpport removal); the real strength of SLS is its high yield per hour (by multiplying models throughout the build volume) as well as the isotropy hence strength of the parts produced. I readily admit this.

I take back what I said in my previous comment about the "speed" of SLS technology. With "3000 mm/s" and packing several pieces manufactured at once in the whole volume of the build chamber, it seems exceptionally high… in appearance only. Here I'm not talking about the structural advantages of nylon parts, but purely about production costs and yields, PA12 vs ASA parts, when both are possible (which isn't always the case, but in my case it is). I made a precise calculation for my own project (a fairly large technical product produced in small series and assembled from several independent parts) which takes 5h40min to manufacture in ASA on three builds in a Bambu Lab P1S, a $700 closed-enclosure FFF printer. Alternatively, I calculated that I could manufacture five of these objects at once using SLS technology. Not "at once" exactly, as it would take two print chambers consecutively, filled to at least 25% on an Inova or a Micronics, two new machines costing around 3500 dollars VAT incl. each (there's nothing else cheaper right now, and the Inova is DIY, sold as a kit takin several days to assemble). Taking into account heating time, manufacturing time and cooling time, it would take me over 56 hours (more than two days!) to manufacture these five parts in SLS, which comes to over 11 hours per unit. That's exactly TWICE as long as it takes me now to produce the same part in ASA on an FFF printer, a machine that is also 5 times cheaper. Therefore, for the same acquisition cost, I could buy 5x Bambu Lab P1S as a small print farm instead of a single Inova or Micronics machine, and be TEN TIMES more productive. And I haven't added the post-production time in the SLS cycle to unmold the cake, take out the parts, vacuum the dust, sift it, sandblast the parts, even then dye then let them dry (so that they no longer have that dirty gray color): hours more! I'm not even talking about the fact that ASA filament is three times cheaper per weight than PA12 powder (it may change in the future, admittedly). I was REALLY excited about upcoming low-cost SLS technology, but my hopes were dashed by this realistic calculation and pragmatic consideration. In conclusion, I don't know how people who sell small-batch production made with SLS printers (especially those that cost ten times as much) manage to cope financially. Sure, another use for SLS tech is functional prototyping instead of small-batch manufacturing, but in this case a density of 25 to 30% in the print chamber is rarely achieved, so the cost per unit skyrockets. YMMV, but I honestly don't see how.

Sounds like the same type of person who buys an industrial fume extractor so they don't die from the "horrible fumes" of their PLA prints.

@@JD2jr. In contrast to FDM printing fumes, sintering really is dangerous.

@@JD2jr. You are discounting something using a straw man, building a fictional character and then equating the two. Not a good way to reason or argue.

@@johndewey7243 no, I'm saying it's probably the same type of person (who I've met the real versions of so no "building a fictional character" here).

Plastic powder used in SLS is way safer than metal powder used in SLM.

no.. solid dense models is where it's at

easier said than done