Also keep in mind that the Targaryens often give birth to children with draconic features, like Rhaenyras and Daemons girl Visenya. Pretty big hint that Targaryens/Valyrians share some dragon dna and likely also the other way around.

I think one of the greatest crimes against knowledge in Westeros is stupid King Baelor having Septon Barth's writings burned. Barth was obviously on the right track to uncovering the mysteries of how Valyria became a great dragonriding power.

To add to your dragon bond point, I recently reread A Dance With Dragons and during the chaos in Daznak’s pit, Drogon gets hurt by a spear and both him and Dany scream in unisson. HOTD also did that comparison when Rhaenyra was giving birth to Visenya and we could see Syrax screaming at the same time. I very much agree that human blood was mixed to create dragons, and to magically bond them to humans dragon blood may have been used to alter Valyrians of old. It’s a literal interpretation of what “blood of the dragon” means but I quite like it. Great video as always!

I'm disappointed we'll never see Septin Barth's full account of dragons. So much knowledge only referenced in the universe.

Firewyrms+wyverns+Valyrian blood magic=dragons. That theory is tied too neatly into a bow not to be correct. Now "dragons in the East" might indicate it was a pre-existing blood magic before the Valyrians that they just rediscovered.

Speaking of Daemon and Caraxes, I think the best example of a dragon bond I've seen is when Nettles departs from Maidenpool and Caraxes roared so loud that all the windows of Jonquil's Tower shattered (CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS SCENE IN HOTD!). In my opinion, this was Caraxes feeling Daemon's pain of being seperated from his daughter; though it seems the show will go in a different direction (aside from the fact that they've established Daemon as an emotionally distant father so that grief over losing Nettles would be out of character). Nice job Quinn!

Perhaps the reason that the dragons kept getting smaller and died out, was because the magic degrades over time. Meaning that in order to maintain their dragons, the Valyrians had to continually create new broods. With horrifying blood magic rituals. Edit: YO WAIT A SECOND THE SCALY BABIES THE SCALY BABIES HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS I DON’T KNOW WHAT BUT THEY ARE CONNECTED I CAN SENSE IT

I definitely think Dragons are some sort or “abomination” of Fire in the word, with them being a chimera or firewyrms and men and wyverns, Weirwoods having the uncanny human features and the White Walkers also seem to be other types of “Abominations” of Earth and Ice. Also i think the Asshai’i made them first before showing the old shepards of Valyria how to do it or something Still great video!

You created a phenomenon Quinn. Who knew leaving the S out of the Dragonsss would be such a big deal 😂

3:46 the moon analogy seems to be there to parallel Dany and Khal Drogo…. Drogo the moon flew to close to Dany the sun and cracked releasing dragons

Dragons are dramatic effect made flesh. One of the key yardsticks of a human character's moral and intellectual fitness is the extent to which they understand this. It's a fascinating commentary on the genre, and it's remarkable to think that the dragons were late additions to the original manuscript.

Have a great Sunday brother Quin 🙏

It kind of reminds me of the Dragonriders of Pern series. In the book Dragonsdawn, it was revealed that the dragons were genetically engineered by people to fend off an alien threat. They were made by mixing species and have the ability to bond with humans. It's been a while since I read it so I don't know the details but I wonder if there could be some connections

Excellent video. Your comparison to the moon being an egg myth and the eggs needing to be removed from the stone deposits/clutch was a nice catch/comparison. Well done!

I think that is the best explanation of how Dragons came into existence, thank you for this Video.

I like how George made them with two legs and wings attached to their arms, since a 6 limbed creature of that size doesn't exist and he thought it would look more grounded. I'm sure his dragons aren't the only ones to be like this, but it really sets them apart from other dragons in fiction.

Remember that blood magic usually requires a human sacrifice. Danaerys' dragons didn't/couldn't hatch until there was a human was sacrificed. "Fire and Blood" is literal.

Keep the content up! Just found the channel and finally have something new to binge!

Videos are always great! Definitely an interesting theory. I hope we learn more in the following seasons of HOTD

Great video as always brother!

Quinn killing it with the content as always 💪

8:29 I thought you were gonna say how they always talk about being blood of the dragon lol

This makes sense because didn’t the people from Asshai teach the Valyrians about dragons? They were shepherds before that. Given Asshai’s close association with blood magic and the dark arts…

So the hatching of Dany's dragons seemed to involve human sacrifice. And I wonder whether that was required to hatch dragons in the olden days too. I wonder if Aegon Dragonbane tried to hatch dragons without human sacrifice--due to his trauma from the dance, it makes sense that he might refuse to continue human sacrifice--and that's why the dragons died out. Which leads me to wonder: is the third head of the dragon the rider or is it the person whose blood was used to hatch the dragon? I think the Asshaii probably developed the original techniques to create dragons during the long night, and I think the Valyrians probably picked up where the Ashaii left off. If we see Valyria as the Rome of Planetos, it makes sense for Ashai to be the Greece of Planetos.

Feel free to branch into whatever content you like!

and in the island of gogossos the valyrians did a lot of blood magic research, wich created the red plague.

You see, when a mommy dragon and a daddy dragon love each other so much....

Interesting ideas and I think it‘s a nice theory overall, though I‘m not sure on how much HOTD should be taken into consideration. Is Gurm that involved that his influence would stretch to subtle background clues like this?

I just so happened to learn that the script for reign of fire was written in 1996. The same year game of thrones was published 🤔🤔🤔 Edit: I tried to find some tangible connection between Matt Greenberg or the 2 other writers & GRRM - just a bunch of TV writers.

Could there perhaps be a 3rd type of dragon thing that was mixed together? Balerion came back with a giant slash on his side are we so sure it was from a wyrm? The dragons in hotD are so diverse in shape. Longboy Caraxes seems to have more wyrm in him than the others.

Great video

One aspect of the "Valyrians made dragons" theory that i like is it links dragons to nukes, living weapons that shouldn't exist. Better thematically. But it makes the world smaller, in a way, if one of its coolest monsters is man-made, not to mention it rules out the existence of other types of dragons by default of dragons are artificial.

I think the creation of the dragons involving horrific human experimentation fits with the themes of the novel as well. The dragons are tools of war and power. They exist to wreak violence and maintain power. They exist to create and defend empire. The books explore the uses and abuses of such power and how human beings are turned into so much meat by the endless wars fought to empower the few. Death in war is human sacrifice. The death of women to birth heirs as well. Humans sacrificed over and over again in the name of power... It just makes sense that some form of human sacrifice is involved in the creation of the books' greatest symbols of violent power, the dragons.

So early Quinn hasn’t finished the parentheses yet

I think it's notable to point out that dragons only seem to understand valyrian. So that reinforces the theory that valyrians created them, their commands to their "animals" might be spells, not just commands

I suspect Euron might have some insights in the creation of dragons as what his ambition suggests is immense

What's interesting is that if dragons actually came from combining wyverns and fire wyrms then it would be more accurate to call them Chimeras.

Meta response would be George’s own words on the dragons jn his world - ‘Paris made me put the dragons in’ But jokes aside! Love this video! And all of your videos. The creation of the dragons is fascinating and it’s upsetting to know we probably won’t get the information directly. I’m fully behind the Wyverns+fire wyrms make dragons and they were spliced with humans to create valyrians. Maybe we’ll find out some day 🤷🏻‍♂️

LOL I think dragons were created very Carefully... Because there was probably a lot of times like the opening of the first Jurassic Park "Choot 'er....Choot 'er...Choot 'er" lol

there is a theory that there were dragon riders in the empire of the dawn and their capital was asshai

How are dragon made

Another point to the firewyrm+wyvern theory is the size of dragons, both dragons and firewyrms grow to be massive while wyverns do not. It is notable that dragons seem to reproduce asexually and the fact the only know method of sex determination is if the dragon has laid eggs or not. This means dragons and their ancestors may not have the organs for humans to be involved in their creation (at least in the method(women) Valyrian tended to favorite when making hybrids), though other methods remain such as what the tapestry depicts and blood magic. I still believe the Valyrians have the blood of the children of the forest or an offshoot of them. The Bloodstone Emperor was said to take a tiger woman to wife and the CotF are described to have cat-like eyes, claws, and I'm sure some could have stripes rather than spots. The Valyrian's bond with dragons is not too different than skinchangers and dragondreams are similar to greendreams.

No, we first read about Fire Wyrms in Dance, not Fire and Blood

What about ice dragons

It's pretty much taken for granted at this point that The Great Empire of the Dawn was a dragon riding civilization. If this is true then the Valyrians merely inherited this legacy.

Laena and Daemon should be dead from that dragon joyride they had flying through fire since Daemon has a burn scar from the flaming arrow in episode 3

"Dragons are pretty cool.." This is why I always hate his interest in dragons as one argument for the Tyrion Targaryean theory. To me, it's odd that he's the only one. You'd think Brandon and Rickon would have dragon toys. Humans love dragons. Godzilla, one of the longest existing franchises that will not die, is basically a super giant dragon. Pokemon has dragons. Dragon Ball Z has a dragon (at least in the non-canon movies).

It was "ancient aliens" duh. (Shout out to Giorgio Tsoukalos 😂) The "aliens" mixed the DNA of Valyrians with wyverns, and firewyrms. The dragon has 3 heads.

Uhhh have you been watching The Disputed Lands? Rhetorical question.

Fire Wyrms + Wyverns = Dragons

Can I have a dragon ?

Dragons were created with sugar, spice and everything nice. Everyone knows that

caraxes thumbnail was way better smh

Three heads could be the rider, the dragon, and the magic most central to and driving the story’s plot.

You failed to mention our suspicion about the great empire of the dawn owning dragons.