How were the Primarchs created? Who was their mother? What deal might the Emperor have made to create them? All this and more in this deep dive into 40k Lore.
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@Storiaron2 жыл бұрын
Potentially chaos didnt ask for anything in return of the powers granted to the emperor. Humanity is the single greatest source of the warp every since the eldars fell, so humanity surviving was as much their goal as it was the emperor's. We know that the chaos gods consider him as a traitor, so presumably they simply didnt know/couldnt foresee big E's plans to sever mankind from the warp all together
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Love this theory.
@Storiaron2 жыл бұрын
@@lorestream6002 thank you :)
@ianharrison57582 жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense. Chaos winning by killing off mankind, as seen in future the Kabal showed to Alpharius is actually very much a catch 22 for chaos. Without humanity there simply isn’t a high enough population of sentient creatures to feed them. With The orks almost exclusively worship their own gods and thus don’t feed chaos the same way that humanity can. The eldar are still in slaaneshes chokehold, and the necrons and tyranids are basically anti warp. It makes sense that a deal could have been made between the emperor and chaos on the basis of keeping mankind alive in exchange for humanities survival. The emperor then working to sever humanity from the warp would absolutely be enough for chaos to decide enough is enough. Great insight man, makes me see the emperor in a different way
@JamieZero7 Жыл бұрын
Chaos gods need sentient life. It's how they exist. Micheal moorcocks Elric Choas says while they wage war they don't want victory because a victory would mean the death of them. I suggest you check out moorcocks Eternal Champion stories it's essentially what all modern fantasy is based on. And 40k like many others heavily stole from his work. Even stealing the chaos symbol. Those 8 arrows are the mark of the chaos gods.
@N0TYALC9 ай бұрын
I’ve heard a million theories about big E’s “deal” with Chaos, but never this one. Very cool.
@joesjohnjohnnyjohnson46092 жыл бұрын
The primarchs betrayal was the emperor's plan all along, he knew he had to become a god in order to finish off the chaos gods for good I'm convinced he's playing for the long game ;)
@christopheraaron12552 жыл бұрын
The chaos god you mentioned is Tzeentch... Zeen-ch.
@user-yq3fz9ch5q2 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it😎
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Lol. I’ve been called out before. I’ll fix it moving forward. Thank you!
@T57Custodian8 ай бұрын
Imagine the custodians talking about the biggest threats and one of em makes the big e sit up and heal like wolverine.... someone's getting purged and I would have shat myself 😂
@Nyctophora2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the way you tied the various bits of lore together!
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kccustodes26182 жыл бұрын
I do not, even for a moment, believe that the Emperor paused because of love for Horus. Something else happened on the Vengeful Spirit, something we might learn soon in upcoming novels.
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
See, now that would be neat. I think we’re all looking forward to seeing what really happened!
@Interrobang2122 жыл бұрын
It seems recent Black Library stuff has been trying to show more of Horus as the favored son. For example, Sanguinis confided in him about the red thirst. I think we need more of that. Horus was supposed to be this charismatic super leader that everyone loved and admired.
@GentlemanBystander2 жыл бұрын
Because the Emperor didn't love Horus, or any of his sons, they were just useful to him.
@xenostim2 жыл бұрын
@@GentlemanBystander Yes, Inquisitor, this is the guy. *points* This one right here!
@GentlemanBystander2 жыл бұрын
@@xenostim You must be a Xanathite enthusiast, heretic.
@cesare_13022 жыл бұрын
The most clarifying video on the molech event by far. You earn a subscriber today
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@brianpj58602 жыл бұрын
Great video, Lore, and channel! Keep pumping these bad boys out!
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ll try to have another one out this weekend.
@jordanblake59162 жыл бұрын
Probally a reach but if you take the first letter from Astartes Amar would be Amara, which could mean Deathless/Immortal or Bitter in Latin, I always thought the name meant love. EDIT: Just found this channel, instant sub!
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Hmm. I wouldn’t put it past GW to sprinkle in something like that. Neat. And thanks for the sub!
@doomguy90492 жыл бұрын
Nice, I love getting in on the ground floor of a promising new channel. Keep up the good work, friend.
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad to have you on board.
@sephiroth34422 жыл бұрын
You got my subscription. Accurate to what happened. Good job
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Doing my best!
@physetermacrocephalus22092 жыл бұрын
I really like your scripts and narration. Keep making content!
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@leeperkins842 жыл бұрын
Love your approach and head cannon.
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Not too much available on this subject, but I think there's some interesting breadcrumbs to follow.
@lancefelker9862 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your videos so far man, keep it up.
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Comments like that make it worth it.
@The_Fall3692 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel tonight, keep it up bro!!
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Welcome aboard!
@LeonShallop2 жыл бұрын
this is very well made keep it up just subbed. keep it up!
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Eintracht-uy3cz2 жыл бұрын
a new lore channel... I'll watch your career with great interest 😮😊
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@michaldraw2 жыл бұрын
This is really well done.
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it.
@hku992 жыл бұрын
Good stuff , keep em coming
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Working on it!
@Crowd711 ай бұрын
I think the chaos gods got exactly what they wanted out of their deal. A galaxy in war for 10k+ years and a major foothold into real space often through corrupted humans now buffed thanks to the emperor
@iamblade78622 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!! Keep going!! 👍
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@ricklegwabe94252 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 👌
@Dionysus-Rex2 жыл бұрын
Okay , I follow all the 40k lore channels and I found that I have grown to used to Brit’s telling me warhammer stories lol I really dig your channel my only critique is the way you said Tzeentch lol . It was like the vinyl record skipping for me the correct miss pronunciation is T-zen-tech ;)
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Haha. I know! My bad. I’m still getting used to audio processing and everything else. Thank you for the kind words! I’m glad people are open to an American narrator.
@Dionysus-Rex2 жыл бұрын
@@lorestream6002 no worries my man I think you got something good going here . I was reading the other comments . I didn’t notice it until someone mentioned it but I think you could slow the pace of your narration just a tad do it doesn’t seem like your racing to finish the story . We’re here for the stories so it takes what it takes to tell them ;)
@frankdecron13062 жыл бұрын
You just got a sub homie
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it, dude!
@mikshida13992 жыл бұрын
Well done
@jackrogers57122 жыл бұрын
Happy to subscribe! You're good at this. Just need to slow down a bit. I slowed the playback by 25% and it was close to what would be a good pace for you. Looking forward to seeing your work in the future!
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Been noticing that too! Thanks for the subscribe.
@saltyshackles52272 жыл бұрын
Sub Number 238. Nice format and video. I always wondered if Big E ever thought about a female Primarch, although Saint Celestine kind of fills this gap in current 40k.
@sumerandaccad2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of saints around. Must have a harem
@christopheraaron12552 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry... what basis do you have for the ship being sub-light?
@1337_YbuR2 жыл бұрын
I hope that for the last book of the siege of terra they either hint at « he has a plan and everything is going according to the plan » or « fuck it freestyle i didn’t foresee this »
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
They’ve gotta give us something
@christopheraaron12552 жыл бұрын
The plural form of millennium is millennia btw.
@Duppyman6952 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed, great for information, not great sound, a strange echo! I'm not sure if it was for effect ?
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Still learning how to process audio! I’ll cut the reverb a bit. Thanks for the feedback, that’s the only way it’ll get better.
@JD-td6oh2 жыл бұрын
Veryyyyy nice ty
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stuartbailey27332 жыл бұрын
fascinating thank yo!, found your channel by chance "subbed " question if the big "em" died then reborn would his death scream because of the worship he wold become a literal god make a huge warp storm in the middle of terra ?? anybody i heard this theory on baldermort your a little of the same vibe by the way "compliment" keep it going I'm going to mention your channel on other "tubers"
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much and for the support! And I’m not sure. Slannesh wanted to reach into real space and eat Eldar souls. It’s possible the birth of a god would effect the universe in the way that they wish it to. Slannesh was never stronger than the moment of her birth; so, perhaps the moment of a creation for a god is their greatest moment of power and allows for their greatest act.
@kccustodes26182 жыл бұрын
106th subscriber :)
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! We just hit 100!
@michaelgilroy1096 Жыл бұрын
Sources for all this information?
@U9B4 ай бұрын
The emperor is the 5th chaos God. The God of order.
@skavihekkora50392 жыл бұрын
Not many know that Emperor's name is Clyde. Actually all that knew are already dead for some reason.
@donclyburn94972 жыл бұрын
half the sons? 9+2 purged means more than half were lost? or are they locked away? hmmmm
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Hmmm indeed.
@easternrebel106111 ай бұрын
Honestly, the Emperor falling to/becoming corrupted by chaos, all be it not completely like horus or lorgar would explain a lot of gaps in the lore around the rise of the imperium, the primarchs, and great crusade , as well as how Erebus was able to corrupt almost half the legions with his warrior lodges.
@honorkill19592 жыл бұрын
Based video
@metallixro2 жыл бұрын
Not bad, you got yourself a new sub. One criticism: you talk too fast! :)
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Been hearing that and noticing it myself! Working on it. Thanks for the sub!
@dwalk96742 жыл бұрын
I hate the Amar Astartes origin. It take so much away from the emperor.
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
I think it shows he’s not all powerful. Just a very powerful man good at appearing even more so. But I see both sides for sure.
@Scufflegrit2 жыл бұрын
“Teh-snitch” 🤣
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Lmao. I have no idea tbh. Some things just don’t come out of my mouth correctly.
@Scufflegrit2 жыл бұрын
@@lorestream6002 Take the word lunch. Replace the ‘luh’ with ‘zee’. Boom: Tzeentch.
@doomguy90492 жыл бұрын
Tit snitch is cannon 😤🤓😌
@Cypher1011011 ай бұрын
@Scufflegrit Instructions unclear, now my sandwich has 9 twitching eyeballs.
@linksghost2 жыл бұрын
What if gork and more were two bat shit crazy old ones🤔
@linksghost2 жыл бұрын
Gork and mork*
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Lmao. It’d definitely be Orky in a hilarious way.
@DEMONX622 жыл бұрын
Comment for the algorithm
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you.
@whiteeye3453 Жыл бұрын
planet molech is not cannon just as perpetuars
@fullsendcirca92553 ай бұрын
Ah more 40k that makes no sense. “Emperor was essentially able to reconstitute himself upon death into a new body or heals all his wounds” Then there should be no reason that he cant create himself a new body after the Horus heresy. He’s only as powerful as it is convenient for the story.
@rizer2096 Жыл бұрын
Good video but...... Teznitch? Nah man
@imasspeons2 жыл бұрын
Lost me at "millenniums".
@lorestream60022 жыл бұрын
Lmao. Fair enough.
@imasspeons2 жыл бұрын
@@lorestream6002 lol I'll finish watching it later, just had something to do and wanted to snipe before I forgot about it