Well said

For sure. The people we put up with in life is one of the saddest things until it's no longer the case. Let's get strong and learn to stand up for ourselves because many times we are all we have. It takes a lifetime to figure this all out for some of us. Hugs to all struggling with this.

Great quote!

I miss Robin. A lot. His ability to make me laugh got me through some really rough times. Thanks for posting. 👍😎

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Spot on!! 😭

Nail on the head...AGAIN!! Thank you NS 🙏✌❣🌞

I noticed from an early age that my father and his side of the family was highly critical of everybody. With a hint of cruelty in their words they would declare that so-and-so was worthless, or lazy or whatever, based on a single experience with that person. After flying unaccompanied from Hawaii to Chicago at age 7, my grandmother spent two weeks nagging me because apparently I forgot to put the cap back on the toothpaste tube the first morning I was there.

So well said, and described

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Forced to get therapy sessions 🤣

Coercive behavior is now seen as domestic abuse, I hope we are getting there!

That would be a Dream. Yet, the freaky fallout would be so many victims would likely be in jail too as the narcopath walks freely. Some are so immensely crafty.

Oooofff

...my mom

most hurtful is the flying monkeys who believe the lies of the N. so that "the serenity to accept the things i cannot change" becomes the mantra for us for avoiding the insincerity & shunning (your intuitive gut feeling radar) that these people unfairly impose on u cuz they have enabled the N. Some people seem to believe everything they hear from some people; rather than checking out the other person's story. One sided.

@@dianedeclare8541 yes, i am being subjected to this now... and of all places.. in an ashram!

@@dianedeclare8541 I have been the victim of the flying monkeys of narcissists family. I was hurt until I thought about it: what kind of person hears one side of a story and writes a letter to the 'perpetrator' (the narcissist was the violent one but told the f.m. that she was the victim of MY violence), the perp being ME in her mind, and doesn't even ASK me my side of the stories? This person is NO LOSS TO ME! My narcissist family isn't either, as well because what kind of person reverses the victim and perpetrator to make herself look the victim? Please don't count these people as a LOSS to you, rather, their loss is your GAIN!

@@harima36 Ringu Tulku (tibetan Buddhism) once said you don't expect healthy people when entering a hospital 😉

Yep my neighbour ATM omg been going for 5 years

Exactly!

@@salonsavy6476 ♥️♥️

@Dewi Lew. Facts and to add to that when you unknowingly data a person with NPD, as an adult, and they are aware of your childhood wounds and they use those childhood wounds against you. It's hurtful.

@@astrarai-thesobercoder absolutely. Children of narcissistic parents will naturally attract narcissistic partners. It’s like they can sense your vulnerability, and they prey on you. ♥️♥️

It's not just the fact that the NPD parent tell you XYZ, but how "it's fact" and "good for you" and "you deserved it", *by society*. You know the "saying" "it hurts me more than you" ? Guess what - it doesn't.

Wowwwww 🥺

First of all Im so happy that i saw a comment from a Greek person here!!!! And that is because, in my opinion, here in Greece a loooot of people suffer from narcissistic abuse because they dont recognise it... Not enough knowing or education on narcissism.. It took me 15 years to understand that my best friend was my handler. Its a long story. Be aware of how you feel after the phrase '... and I told you all of these, even though it might hurt you and that is because I love you like none else, and I will not stop telling you the truth because(again) I m the only one who wants your good'... your guts feeling never lie.. Sorry for my bad english.

That comes from the Holy Bible. Proverbs 15:1

I’m thrilled & thankful that this knowledge, comfort & healing is reaching people worldwide! 🎶 Save the world, make it a better place…🎵 Thank You Dr Ramani !!! 🥰

Interesting the comment about there being alot of narcisstic abuse in Greece. My ex bf was Greek and narcusstic. His verbal insults were soul destroying yet would never apologise and say tgts how we speak to each other in Greece

I think the word "psyche" can be changed for "soul", it means the same but rhymes better.

@Kathleen Duran Here's Wishing You So Much Compassion ❤ I for one am Glad that you are already on the Right Track.

@Kathleen Duran G-d? Seriously? We have to worry about saying GOD, now?

True

Words DO hurt! I wished my ex would just HIT me so it would be something my family could SEE.

never tell a narc anything important

It's not the words, it's negative overwhelming energy and frequency of that words. Energy of pure hate, anger, rage and destruction, need of dominating and controling someone's mind and soul to bring them down and put them to "their place". Because other side doesn't know any better...

Yesss they most definitely would

@@julbro8451 100% agree

@@nensijurkovic3173 I opened my heart to a narc and they were dismissive, arrogant, invalidating when all I wanted was for them to understand me. It deeply hurt. Fortunately soon afterwards I found Dr Ramani's videos...

Maybe it is more painful because it's hits at a supernatural level. This would be like being in supernatural combat. The blows are not on your freshly body but your spiritual body.

Truth.

It's worse as their insults are intentional and they know were to hit you😢😢😢

U get it. Thanks

YES!!!

So so right

You are so right! The words along with the degrading tone really hurt!

"Atmospheric abuse". Perfect definition. If you've never experienced it, you'll never understand it.

I think this is how it should be said. Words hurt like hell, a wound heals.

That is so spot on. 😊 Thank you for sharing.

I love that.

That's fascinating. Thank you for sharing. The proverbs in the Bible seems to echo those sentiments.

Likewise in Greek we say "the tongue has no bones but it can smash bones"

Oh absolutely! There are women out there that are complete monsters. It just doesn't get taken seriously because they are a woman and women are the "gentle creatures " of the world. Btw I'm a woman.

When I was a child I thought that abuse could only come from parents. It took me a long time to allow myself to acknowledge the trauma inflicted on me by an elder sibling. Negativity is negativity. We know it in our souls. Best wishes to you moving forward.

Men need to have to a “movement “ of their own whereupon their needs and spirituality are embraced instead of this cultural toxic masculinity that grinds them to dust for profit and war.

No its recognized. Seems some entity continues to spin the narrative that men shouldn't hit women. Never wanting to place blame on the "victim". Some womens narcissistic behavior is never discussed.

T Tatum is trolling this comment section. Watch out!

Υε, the Greek equivalent would be "η γλώσσα κόκαλα δεν έχει και κόκαλα τσακίζει" which translates to "the tongue might not have bones but it can crash them". Very similar.

I’m definitely with the Italians and the Greeks on this one. Always said words are more hurtful they stay

@@katie8068 You are saying you would rather be attacked with a sword than verbally. 🙄🙄🙄

@Cecillia You think words would do more damage to you than a sword. 🙄😆😆😆😆 Millions of dead from wars going back thousands of years would disagree with you!!!

@@obscurum6 no but luckily we live in 2021 where swords aren’t easy to come by! Why watch a video on how damaging words are to be argumentative about them not being 🤷🏻‍♀️

Exactly

I lived with a man that beat, raped and stangled me for 10 years and it continued on for 2 more years. Then 13 years after I left him I married my psychiatrist that was severly emotional abusive. He called me trash and played head games. I left him after 17 months of marrage. It was awful. The one that beat me, called me names, but never the emotional abuse the psychiatrist did to me. One was an expert with physical abuse and the other emotional. I am not able to have a relationship with anyone. Not even have friends, I am so paranoid and psychotic now from Christians gaslighting me trying to save me. During that time, they try very hard to make you feel like trash, and make you feel guilty for everything you ever did.( I have told them that all those years that I was single all the married christian men came knocking on my door wanting me to be their mistress) These were my friends, I thought. They were married and they were Christians, I didn't want them. As everyone must know, everything is a sin. It made me so mentally ill. I didn't know how they try to convert gay people and the gay people will commit suicide from the guilt they are made to feel. And Christians don't care that they push them to that. Personally I see Christians as doing this on purpose to try to make you sin with them, so they can try to convert you later. I see it very clear now.

Betty and Dan Broderick.

Yes, all too true. I am trying to do the same.

I agree with you, you forget who you are. I grew up with narcissistic parents, so I never even knew who I was. I still struggle with that, after being married to two narcissists. I too barely survived a small town too, full of secrets, lies, narcissistic men, and more. It was accepted there, and I thought I could "fit in". After 16 years, being married to a narcissistic man, in a town that accepts that kind of treatment, I finally gave up. I stayed in that town for 5 more years after my divorce, and boy did I learn a lot during that time. They thought he was a good ol' boy, people who I thought were my friends, wouldn't even talk to me. I was a mess, crying all the time. Finally moved away. It was hard, but the best thing I've ever done. Got into therapy, which I still do, and one day, my daughter sent me a link to Dr. Ramani. That link has done more to help me than any therapist. And I must say, I received that link at the right time, I was ready to look at the "whole picture" of my life. I've learned too that I've been a Narc Magnet. I'm an empath, and they spot it a mile away. I'm getting better at "spotting them"! And running away as fast as I can! Thanks for sharing K. Aren Hen. And, thank you again Dr. Ramani! Oh, and one other thing, narcs aren't just men, women too. I realized through Dr. R, that some of my girlfriends were narcs too.

Well said!

Hugs!

Small towns are cruel places to grow up, especially if you step out of the very narrowly-defined way to speak, dress, what to watch, read, follow. Ugh. The bullying is soul destroying.

@@caligirl1002 Can you imagine if all the survivors got together ~ every victim in their wake ~ and shared/compared?

I understand. And we need to encourage each other not to fall into this hole, especially after we endured so much to escape the narc's void. Remember, your truth will inspire someone that needs it. Good luck on your journey. Stay Strong 💪

me 2, the I love you, you are beautiful, you are important, you are intelligent or even a hug here or there that never came. That families are supposed to be the closest & most unbreakable unit but in reality everything is a lie & the parents are riddled with poison. I hope that YOU & the people that surround you are never too proud to apologise & show you love, support & the affection you deserve because you are beautiful, strong, intelligent & incredibly important & don't you EVER FORGET THAT AS IT'S THE TRUTH ❤️😘💕☺️✌️

Uzma, I hear you and feel your pain. An apology would be an admission of wrong, and any praise would damage their ego. All we can do is know our own worth and further protect our wounded spirits. Be well.

Change is desperately needed when it comes to this type, and all abuse. Where do we start?

So eloquently & succinctly said...incredibly thought provoking & powerful.

Your a warrior!!

My narcissistic mother's words still echo in my head. Narc husband said things behind my back so didn't have to hear them but they had a devastating impact.

Hear!! Hear!! Me, too!! Will be 70 next month!!

@@sandrasimon9534 I get it. My narc husband too. I don't want anymore narcs in my life.

@@lindakarner1430 I'm so sorry that you have experienced this too. Sending hugs. 😢

I disagree.

@@louniece1650And that's ok.. Let me give you a better example...It's like Satan saying, You're a bad person...why would Satan's opinions of you matter. Satan can't bad talk nobody, nor can a narcissist.

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I agree to an extent. If you can get away from the abuser, this mindset can work. Often, abusers isolate their victims. The abuser has most of the influence on their target by this point. There words are much harder to ignore in an echo chamber.

@@glizzard1894 Point of view is very important because I was referring to being outside the relationship with a narcissist while you was referring to still being in a relationship with the narcissist. 👍🏾

Same

Go to a women's shelter and tell that to a woman who has been beaten, raped and lost a child to violence. You are talking crap. I have helped those women. You have no idea what you are talking about.

The Bible is bullshit, why quote that crap???

@@chriswinter8255 nice. Did you watch the video, or would you rather use some sticks and stones on @Dakoder?

@@chriswinter8255 respect and accept other people beliefs, like all civilized people do. Have you even ever read the Bible? It is a beautiful book full of wisdom.

@@chriswinter8255 Read the book of JAMES in the Bible and that will make YOUR tongue hush...🤨

And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell (…) it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. (AV1611) The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one’s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. (…) It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. (NIV) James 3:6

Good point!

I'm sorry Me too 💙❤💛💚💜💕

Me too. My love to you all

Me too..

Same for me😢trying sooo hard to get over the insults which he seemed to ENJOY hurling at me and seeing me cry😢

I totally relate to your experience. One question . . . when you said your subconscious was trying to heal itself . . . do you mean that is the reason you kept attracting the same kind of people . . . in an attempt to get a different outcome?

Very true, I must remember that one. Well said.

My dad taught me that one, when I was in grade school. I haven't heard it forever. Good to hear it again.

*B Anthony:* When my narc mother died I called the few names of friends I found in her phone book to let them know. Every person said how much they liked and admired her. If they only knew what went on behind closed doors. You're right, narcissists can be raging, foul mouthed monsters that crush children in so many ways.

@@ginawiggles918 that was very noble of you. I guess those people thought they were comforting you. Once in my mother's presence, someone told me what a nice and giving person she is; I told them they were very lucky to know her in that way. The woman got a quizzical look on her face and changed the subject.

@@banthony8545 : LOL.....how very diplomatic of you. I'll bet you were smiling inside. Do you find yourself constantly remembering all the crazy things you mother would do? My mother was, among other things, a shoplifter....she felt "entitled" to take merchandise for some reason. She kept an entire bedroom for all the clothes she stole. When I was clearing out her house after she died there was SO. MUCH. STUFF! She lived with me the last couple years of her life and one time we went to the 99¢ Store. We each took a cart and did our thing. Suddenly, I turned down an aisle & saw her STUFFING make-up down her pants and into her diaper! I was so embarrassed. You just can't make this stuff up! I'm sure you have a lifetime's worth of "mother stories" too. They are so unbelievably CRAZY.

You are strong, but not made of steel. Having a tender heart is a good thing.

@Michael Skinner Thank you for the kind words! I agree wholeheartedly! Life is finally starting to level out, but more work to be done :)

@@cymbolichuman433 Thank you for the reminder 😊💕

I've heard that too. Wouldn't amount to anything. At the age of 8 I expressed the idea of writing a book. This was in a letter to one of my little girl friends. My mother, who used to snoop through my drawers (geez, at the age of 8), said to me one day, with a smirk on her face "A Book!!!". That told me she had looked through my stuff, and read my girlfriend letter. I've never forgotten that. I can still see her face. That comment has followed me all my life. I would still like to write a book, then I remember her face, and comment. I don't believe I can. I don't believe I can succeed in anything. Oh, and I'm 74. Blessings to you on your journey Black Girl on Mars.

@@caligirl1002 Write your book! You have a story, you have a voice! Your poor broken mother, for whatever reason she couldn't love and nurture you, I am so sorry. The world needs to hear your brave story.🧡🤗👍

God bless you sister with His freedom.

So sorry for your experience, I too was raised by then married narcissist. What country did he get jailed for his words, God bless the judge who saw the mal intent of murderous words.

@@FaithfulandTrue949 it's Croatia. He was really brutal. And i was pregnant with our third baby at that time. And he had no empathy because of my pregnancy. Thanks to a great police officer who did her job really good. Because I even wanted to stop everything, because I felt sorry for him and taught that he will maybe change after this. But evidence for abuse were ust too strong, even my words couldn't stop the process. 😃

What a load of crap. 🙄

I would no longer trust ‘Madonna’ and her so called ‘positive messages’ , her words can trap your mind , and I have experienced what it’s like to listen and pursue the ‘words’ of these ‘celebrities’ or ‘stars’ , as she sings about people ‘trapping your mind’ , she is also one of the worlds greatest manipulators and user of strong words to get supply and control , and get what she wants . Fake people and leaders are the worst narcissist of all .

Me too. Your health and well being must be your priority. I now see my mother’s behaviour towards me as multiple attempts to divorce me so determined she seemed to utterly destroy my soul and make me feel not a part of the family. Job done, divorce complete, peace at last! Take care ❤️

Yep! So true. Please continue to take care of you. I will continue to do the same. It is difficult and lonely, but so worth it.

Same. I felt so guilty at first keeping a distance from my mother who is a single parent since we're conditioned to think family is everything and family will always have your back. It's only when I started researching narcissism and understanding what was done to me, that I allowed myself not to let the guilt weigh heavy on me. Good luck to you and remain strong and determined.

Me too. I chose to go no contact with my malignant Narc mom when she started scapegoating my sweet daughter. I didn’t know the vocabulary but I knew I had to stop the abuse. Thx to Dr. R. I am able to see clearer. I just have such guilt about leaving an old lady to face her future alone.

@@janswimwild oh my god, that is my worst nightmare if I have kids! I would never want them to feel the way she made me feel and at the same time I think society would judge me for keeping my future kids from their grandmother.

Yup. They'll be the first to tell you to stand up for yourself when you tell them something but will lambaste and accost you for saying "No" to them. And to go a step further, make it seem like you wronged them, again, for having boundaries. Narcs always try to rationalize that they're the lesser of two evils and you have nothing to be angry about. When they say "grateful", they mean feel sorry for yourself around me.

I am so dearly sorry. Can you garner support for yourself? I have found that is so crucial. As a strong woman myself, now 59, I am going through a deep healing process from narc abuse being an empath, now becoming an empowered empath. Are you with him or divorced and experiencing the continuous narc abuse? I am holding you and your daughter in heart, and hope all the support, care and freedom you deserve is in process. 💜

Read the psalms, they cover every human experience psalm 5, psalm 35, psalm 18, Psalm 94 so many that hear your pain. I'm in the same boat after escaping abusive ex husband with little ones via a women's refuge and leaving all. Ex is using the court system to further abuse and try to claw me back, my narc relatives are paying ex husband's court/solicitor/barrister fees against me ouch! I've never harmed or abused any of them, only walked away and done good to them. If it wasn't for the LORD being my help my soul would have dwelt alone, "when my heart is overwhelmed, lead me to the Rock that is higher than I" thank you Jesus for loving us ❣️

I am sorry this happened to you. But as victim of a narc father I would ALWAYS say id rather have no father at all than being put down all the time. For a long time i was his ‚favourite child‘ but i realized that was only because he controlled me. Now than i am 21 i see through it all and all of a sudden i am ‚the beast my mother raised me to be‘ when the only thing my mother did wrong was staying with him… she does not see it. this is my experience and i truly hope you and your girl can get away from him. You are stromger than he makes you believe!! And get help my dear! Therapy is so important. I wish you the best. ❤️

@@bfreeume thank you for your comment. I am not with him no. But my daughter is only 7 so there’s no chance of him completing disappearing I’m afraid. I am inspired and happy to hear you are becoming an empowered empath. That’s my goal too ❤️🙏🏻

@@FaithfulandTrue949 I hope you find the strength and support you need to come through as successful powerful mum/woman ❤️🙏🏻 I pray for you and your children. 🙌🏼

100%. My ex was an explosively violent narc. I've had bruises, whiplash, torn clothes, clumps of hair pulled out. Divorced and full no contact for over 2 years now. The only things that still occassionally creep up on me and freeze me in my tracks, stuck in the fear of the memory of the relationship, are all of the horrendous things that were said. Those words have stuck, and as untrue as I know they were (and that they were coming from a deeply psychologically unhealthy "person" [I say "person" as that's debatable]), they still hurt me and piss me off. It's hard work getting past the emotional abuse. I rarely think of the physical these days.

Barbara, I'm 62. It was my mother's favorite too. She enabled my father's verbal, emotional, and physical abuse on me. She also criticized me mercilessly. Every night when I would tell her, "he hates me," she would scold me not to say that about my father, and repeat the stupid sticks and stones saying. It's been a rough road trying to put myself back together. Recently started EMDR therapy, and Buddhist teachings. I love Thich Nhat Hanh's books, and Pema Chodron. Blessings to you.

My mother's too,but boy would she fling those words!

Hugs!

Cynthia, my dad was the same. We can be happy now. It's not easy, we have to find ways to heal. I have to do EMDR therapy, which helps a lot, and read Buddhist teachings. I love Thich Nhat Hanh, and Pema Chodron. Also Tara Brach on youtube, she's very healing. Sending you love and blessings.

Thank you bonnie!!!!

@@bonniel4325 thank you bonnie!!!!

I've improved so much since i started watching this channel

Hear hear!! Dr Ramani deserves the peace prize for helping so many!

My narc ex and I were both in marital counseling and individual counseling when we were separated. I decided I’d had enough. There was no counseling that was going to make our 20 year marriage tolerable for me. After I told my astonished ex that I was filing for divorce, he cried and said that he couldn’t believe I was leaving him after all he’d done to be a good husband and that I was never satisfied . ( did I mention that he had had multiple affairs?) I suggested that he continue his individual counseling. He told me “My counselor says there is absolute nothing wrong with me and that my only issue is how to deal with you and you’re behavior”.” I remember thinking “Thank you for confirming that divorce is the right thing for me”

@@LB-dv8db It still jolts me awake everytime I hear my narc ex boyfriend blame me for EVERYTHING, inspite of me only doing everything he said. 'I only raised my hand because i'd had enough of your abuse inspite of only loving you' I'm like whaaaaaat? He would just turn everything around on me and at first it was like I was going insane , now I know better but I still slip and feel the rage brimming within when he still makes statements like as if he was just trying to help me and I was the one that was troubled.

@@aneri9635 Yes, it is really hilarious when the bullies turn around and call YOU the bully for standing up to their bullying.

Tongue doesn't have bones... but breaks bones... 👅😄

Wondering was it the same place I heard it 1980s 🙋‍♂️TW

A year ago, I was denied a temporary restraining order against a mentally unstable woman (whom I had actually attempted to help, as she was homeless) who threatened to kill me twice and claimed squatters ' rights to my home. This, apparently doesn't meet the state legal standard of "fear of imminent bodily harm". Same judge denied the young woman before me who was being stalked and harrassed by her ex. She'd had all 4 tires slashed as well, but this is not bodily harm, nor was there any proof of the perpetrators ' identity. I hope that judge gets it one of these days. He's a major and malignant narcissist. The most arrogant person I 've ever met. Beware New London Superior Court.

Same here. It’s the most demoralizing and defeating feeling to “seek help” as everyone says to do just to be turned away and told you don’t fit the requirements for needing help. Mind boggling tornado 🌪 of chaos and confusion to reinforce the self doubt and gaslighting and blame...and they’re suppose to be “abuse rescuers and experts”?????

@@Gracenglory5 I'm sorry Tina! Hang in there for your own self, and the hell with ignorant, judgemental lunatics. The whole world thinks it's smarter than you, but they're wrong. One way to discern a trustworthy person is to just shut up, just stop. If they can't do the same, walk away. Never walk back.

That's called checkmark in chess. There are no options, or both options are futile. But our long night of checkmates is coming to it's end as we together with Dr. Ramani are finding out where exactly it hurts and why and healing that together.

I feel the same way. I’m 60 and my narc dad has sent me nearly to the edge several times in my life. I’ve so often felt “broken” somehow, and this describes it perfectly. I’ve dealt with depression and anxiety that at times have been severe and have been on medication since my early 20s. Mom died years ago and suffered terribly from living with him. He’s 86 now and in assisted living, and all of his gripes about everything I’ve done wrong my entire life are at the front of his mind more than ever now.

@@DillyDahlia hi Andrea after reading your reply we are way more alike than you think. Yes I've been on medication since my twenties I am still on psychiatric medication. I also still have meltdowns from the complex PTSD. I feel for you so much you have no idea. I just want to say that there is someone out here that really understands how this kind of abuse will ruin your life. And I get sick of therapists who say it can all be healed. no it cannot all be healed because your brain gets dysregulated. I send you love and peace. Thank you so much for your reply

@@kavitadeva Thank *you* for your reply. It does help to know that someone out there knows what this feels like, especially someone near my age who has dealt with a lifetime of feeling “broken” and like a heavy weight is on me, a dark cloud overhead. I’ve been to so many counselors in my life I can’t even count them. Some of them have helped briefly, but nothing has ever stuck because I eventually find myself in a downward spiral of depression. The most recent one was a few months ago after my dad had a health crisis which made everything worse. That counselor started out promising, but when he told me to try to improve our relationship by spending more time with him, I knew this guy just didn’t get it. Thank you again for replying and peace to you in your healing.

@@DillyDahlia I just read your reply. I completely understand being broken. I was in therapy for over 40 years. Every modality. Narcissistic abuse should be a prison sentence as it is a kind of trauma that can ruin a person's life forever. Hang in there Andrea. You are a strong woman. I live in Los Angeles. How about you. If you don't want to tell me, its ok.

@@kavitadeva I am in eastern Washington. You are so right, it does feel like a prison sentence. Thank you for your kind words.

Yup !,, that’s my mom

I hope you can get away from that mofo man. You deserve good things in life. Please go to a shelter, if necessary. Sending you blessings.

The good doctor does seem to have regained her usual joyful demeanor ❤

Energetic Hygiene! 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

Soul level pain, we can be healed in God's love and Grace at this soul injury level too. Truth resides there. We are honoring the truth with Dr Ramani.

But Dr Ramani said physical abuse causes psychological damage too. Abuse being the key.

I agree. My boyfriend is verbally and emotionally abusive to me. It would probably hurt less if he hit me. He can be so cruel. He knows my weak spots and hits me there all the time. He acts like such a nice guy around others but around me, he's horrible.

@@empresskrissy1527 I'm sorry. I'm just trying to escape after 4yrs of abuse. My biggest help was Dr Ramanis video on grey rocking. Once I learned, and I wasn't perfect to stop reacting, showing hurt to his abuse it got easier because he got bored. These people love to see you squirm when they score a hit on your sore spots. So yes the hopes and dreams die but the grey rocking bought me enough time to find somewhere to move to, and he asked me to move. Yay, so he won't be acting wounded when I go next week. Cover your tender spots, appear calm and polite, and secretly plan your exit. These types never change.

@@joywebster2678 dont forget to block him on all possible ways, cause they realize you are really gone AFTER you moved out, and since narcs are deeply dependent, they try to suck you back in if they have not replaced you yet. Had that with my ex. Blocked it off. Good luck you guys ✌❤

@@joywebster2678 hang in there Joy 💜

Same here. I m not in contact with her anymore.

@@asiyaabbasi5155 I’m in the process of gray rocking her. She’s not contacting me cause she’s not getting what she needs from me anymore thank god

Oh my god. This has brought me to tears, how utterly tragic. Poor woman. Much of this story is the carbon copy of mine, but my suicide attempt failed. I am very isolated and damaged but I'm trying so hard to get better. My narcissistic mother has destroyed me, she is pure evil. Why do people have children to abuse them? It is so sick. Take care. I hope your friend is at peace now. Appalling what she endured. It's criminal.

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Same.

I agree with you on this one. I just had my son tell me his experience he had in middle school that I was never made aware of until many years later when he decided to share it with me. Omg! I am so sad that he wasn't able to come to me at the time. He handled the situation himself and was punished for a week by going to the principals office each day. Never was I told of this even by the school. How sad is that? I suppose the school had their own reasons for that decision, but I feel that it was their responsibility to inform the parents on both ends. This stuff needs to be taught in school because parents are not teaching their own children not to say awful hurtful things to others. It will continue to be a problem in the future because the best they can do is to sweep it all under the rug. We wouldn't want to learn anything. Education is the best defense against all of this. Also, we wouldn't want to hold anyone accountable for their children's awful behavior, would we?

I'm an atheist and driven to do good in this world.

Sounds like my MIL!

Ill put this on my tombstone lol