How WoW lost its soul

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00:00 - Intro
04:23 - Flying
08:04 - Levelling
11:59 - Community
15:51 - Endgame
20:05 - Story
24:21 - Outro

Пікірлер: 53
@Thickoatmeal
@Thickoatmeal Жыл бұрын
This is basically an ASMR video for me. I've gotten to the point where I just love hearing reviews on games I am currently playing as well as use to play. Great content! Keep it up. :)
@m00rtin4
@m00rtin4 Жыл бұрын
Tbh i think most of it has to do with mmo genre in general. Social media hit the mainstream during wotlk years and the speed of information with it. This affected wow very hard and its a clear before wow before wotlk and after wotlk.
@ScroogeKD
@ScroogeKD Жыл бұрын
I really like ur videos!!!!!! Every video seems to be of higher quality than the previous one!!! Keep it up!!!!!! We will watch your career with great interest
@heatrayzvideo3007
@heatrayzvideo3007 Жыл бұрын
Half way through wotlk I noticed a change in tone. They started emphasising the comedy elements like goblins more. They continued to replace satisfying progress with convinence. It was the WoW coin that killed the game. The emphasis on end game meant that blizz actively destroyed the leveling process making it quicker and less satisfying. Newly capped players havnt had time to learn their class only to get shouted at by veterans. The worst thing for me is the level scaling. You no longer look forward to progressing to new areas like before. Games are about over coming challenges but when these challenges are removed it leaves players just going through the motions like a rat in an experiment. I do actually like lfd - I hate spamming trade for groups and it's a myth you get better grips that way.
@Emidretrauqe
@Emidretrauqe Жыл бұрын
As long and boring as it is, I'll actually refer to the video "Why it's Rude to Suck at Warcraft" by Folding Ideas. The video basically boils down to the feedback loop that developed around endgame progression, game difficulty, and efficiency chasing that was formed by the end of vanilla. To the point where all of TBC's systems, raiding, arena, and flying, were all oriented around avoiding the open world as much as possible. Something that the other expansions leaned harder and harder into as time went on. Even Dragonflight isn't breaking free of that, it's just so hard-wired into the game at this point. Even Dragonflight isn't interested in deviating from it. The road map looks like it's going to be just like BFA.
@meisyo0921
@meisyo0921 Жыл бұрын
GG
@TK_GX
@TK_GX Жыл бұрын
its hard to slowly watch a game kill itself over 15+ years of playing it. I don't enjoy WoW at all these days. I think Legion was the last time I enjoyed the game in any fashion. The fact that I still subscribe at all with WoW gold for that new dumb monthly reward currency (trading post) shows how much I give a toss about the game these days. I don't even play WoTLK Classic since I played the real WoTLK at its peak and didn't want to bother playing a modern playerbase cancerous version of the past. The Classic era died for me when WoW Classic ended and TBC Classic and its MTX milking was born. I never leveled my Classic characters, I left them as they were. Probably the true last moment of time I enjoyed the game. good video.
@bipolarbear69
@bipolarbear69 Жыл бұрын
Community is such a important key to it, alot of private servers fall because of it.
@timbert4672
@timbert4672 Жыл бұрын
I think you are spot on there with quite a lot of things. I started playing the game after being introduced to it by my step brother at the end of 2K6 after he and several of my gamer friends migrated there from UT2K4, the only reason I migrated there myself was after seeing it when I stopped with him for a month while I was moving house because my new one wasn't ready yet, I tried the free demo off his DVD and was so taken with it that I promptly ventured down to the Trafford Centre and bought myself the full version. Anyway, to the point. Flying. I personally loved the addition of flying as it gave me a sense of achievement getting it (especially epic) then going out exploring far and wide with it, but I also disliked the side effects which resulted such as lack of world PvP which is something I rather enjoyed. There's also the part where flying over everything can spoil the experience of feeling smaller and part of something which is why in the Cata and MoP expansions, I was always hanging around Tol Barad and then the Timeless Isle just farming away like I used to in Vanilla and TBC. You mentioned Wrath which I personally loved because it wrapped up the story of the scourge, I loved the plaguelands and the stories which went with them and those instances so much that I read up the WC: 3 lore and watched videos of the games story to get a full understanding of it, I got really immersed in Wrath because of that. Another expension I loved was Legion as it was basically TBC V2.
@adrianlajko714
@adrianlajko714 Жыл бұрын
I love how you reacted to the "wourld" meme :D keep up the good work
@mrillis9259
@mrillis9259 Жыл бұрын
Your going to blow up soon. Great content.
@DrewPicklesTheDark
@DrewPicklesTheDark 10 ай бұрын
I have said since the end of Wrath, even before Cata was out, a WC4 should have been made between Wrath and Cata to better set up a story for the next few expansions. Due to the player character existing, factions needing to be "balanced", etc. it's just impossible to tell compellingly in WoW, for example you could never tell Arthas' WC3 story in WoW. Even the major characters WoW that have done alright with could have been much better if their story was expanded in a WC4. You could much better set up Deathwing, the Old Gods, Garrosh, etc. stories so that you actually cared about them. The Orc campaign could have been the story about about Garrosh's rise to power and Thrall stepping down. The Alliance campaign could have focused on Jaina's transformation from an optimistic naive girl in to the cold woman she became. And you could have a Old Gods/Twilight campaign to actually show them winning (Much how like when the Scourge needed to win for the plot in WC3, you just played as them and crushed everything) and show why they are actually a threat instead of a bunch of goons who are loot piñatas and make people actually care about characters like Cho'gall and Deathwing (Admittedly they were in WC2, but their stories were very shallow since WC1+2 told the story on a more macro scale and didn't really delve in to individual characters the way WC3 did). Dragonflight shows time-skips between expansions are fine. A timeskip between Wrath and Cata (or whatever they went with as a sequel to WC4) would have been fine too. The fact a characters like Garrosh and Varian have become a fan favorites _in spite_ of the uphill "battle" that is WoW's writing, I really think someone like Garrosh could reach Arthas or Illidan tier if his story was allowed to be explored in a RTS game. Same goes for Varian, Vol'Jin (who was admittedly in WC3, but he didn't do anything), Baine, etc. Such a shame. Rant over.
@slavsthetics2447
@slavsthetics2447 Жыл бұрын
If I didn't que and play PvP solo shuffle I don't know If I would be playing WoW at all, I enjoy just quing PvP gearing fast, but I don't know I might be old WoW lost a magic for me, I have no drive to play it anymore...
@mrillis9259
@mrillis9259 Жыл бұрын
Flying was a known mistake when TBC was released it had broken other games before. Ala the halo jump.
@JaxKangaroo
@JaxKangaroo Жыл бұрын
they need to give a satisfying ending to the night elf storyline, if they fumble it im cancelling my sub. i only play for the story and the story has become a joke which I feel like im the butt of as a night elf player
@midgetydeath
@midgetydeath Жыл бұрын
I’m on Wrath Classic while typing this. As far as I can tell, Blizzard seems to have removed Looking for Dungeon. There is Group Finder, but after checking it out it clearly has no similarity to Dungeon Finder. What a relief!
@onyonrong9244
@onyonrong9244 Жыл бұрын
I liked the video just for the first three seconds alone.
@WOWb13
@WOWb13 Жыл бұрын
You know if this video came out like 4 months ago I would absolutly agree with you, I been playing wow since BC, I tryhard really bad in Cata, first of my server killing Nefarian, after that I play only for fun, Mop was great, really really great an underrated expansion, Warlords was OK, the content was fun, but there were a lot of thing to do, there I got all the gold to play wow for free until now, Legion for me is the best expansion ever, and then BfA and Shitdowlands happened, in shadowlands I uninstalled the game, for the first time in 10 years, but when Dragonflight was anounced I waited for the lunch, I was exited but not too much, then the leveling starts and it was beautiful, the best leveling experience since Warlords, the second best of all expansions, for me this video is funny because all the 5 elements that lead to wow losing it soul, are adressed in dragonflight, flying is the best experience of all time, leveling the best in years, community, every guild I'm in with all my alts are really united, also the trade chat and all is very wholesome right now, endgame, this part is amazing, all the reps are fun, nothing is mandatory but are fun to do, also it have nice rewords, and the story is the best in all wow, believe me, in shadowlands there were a simple element that failed, personal interest, every expansion lack of that, except legion maybe, but here everything is important, you feel conected with all the characters and you are not "god" for them, you are a nice person that casually is there to help, in almost every secundary misions, and in the main story line, you are important yes, but not as important as you were in all the other expansions So, this video is outdated for me, the direction wow has right now is the best in years
@Galfordtv
@Galfordtv Жыл бұрын
@pitlord Great video, definitely think you’re right on a lot of this especially the quests and how linear things have become On the side note thought I’d mention just watched an act man video and seems the algorithm is hitting the f bomb, which is lame af
@RealArtVandelay
@RealArtVandelay 11 ай бұрын
I agree with pretty much everything that you say and honestly for raiding with a major Guild for years. I really would not miss the roll system (Dkp) and the organized raid. I mean it would consume all your life just to get decent items except if youre guikd leader. you would have to literally have no social life outside of wow.
@DSTZulj
@DSTZulj Жыл бұрын
new video good new video game bad
@MadafakinRio
@MadafakinRio Жыл бұрын
I agree with almost everything (except some minor details like flying being mandatory now, and so on). Theoretically WoW can be made great again. Realistically Blizzard would rather light all their money on fire than do that. One of the saddest moments in the world, but what can you do.
@midgetydeath
@midgetydeath Жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed that the vast majority of new players in Wrath Classic do not have heirlooms whereas it is rare to see a “new” player in retail without a full set of heirlooms. Also, while retail spikes and drops drastically and the vast majority of its realm list is a long stream of low population servers, Wrath (dunno about vanilla) has much fewer realms but they are mostly high or medium pop with only a few lows. I think people who try classic tend to stick with it. The things that made it addictive didn’t disappear, after all, and we didn’t magically evolve in the last few decades to be immune to it.
@mcribenthusiast7010
@mcribenthusiast7010 Жыл бұрын
You nailed this analysis.
@mrillis9259
@mrillis9259 Жыл бұрын
What was the problem with TBC group finder? Was the wrath one just more automated?
@mrillis9259
@mrillis9259 Жыл бұрын
I quit the treadmill in TBC when I foresaw that I'd have to raid with the same people who either farmed every tier set or cried for the same super trinket ect everytime.
@FaisallGh
@FaisallGh Жыл бұрын
I followed you because of the “wareld” word pronunciation ❤.
@Spaceglidah
@Spaceglidah Жыл бұрын
banger
@mrnogot4251
@mrnogot4251 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t watch the whole video haha
@heatrayzvideo3007
@heatrayzvideo3007 Жыл бұрын
Please could you do a video on level scaling? It's my pet peeve. I feel its destroyed leveling.
@thenerdbeast7375
@thenerdbeast7375 Жыл бұрын
They actually are working towards a form of Classic+ with possible official hardcore servers.
@appellosesso
@appellosesso Жыл бұрын
hi asmon hi chat
@dubecheck
@dubecheck Жыл бұрын
Flying mounts kill world PVP
@Peleski
@Peleski Жыл бұрын
I can't totally blame blizzard. People just got very good at gaming the game. Everyone knows that one item in each slot is their BiS, and where to get it. There's no point in discovery and exploration. It's no longer "world" of warcraft.
@hazzamodo
@hazzamodo Жыл бұрын
God tier videos
@mrillis9259
@mrillis9259 Жыл бұрын
This video should have been titled. How not to expand an RPG.
@michaking3734
@michaking3734 Жыл бұрын
end game is sooooo boring after 4 weeks i want classic leveling speed with dungeon finder but without porting to the dungeon !
@Sakura_Matou
@Sakura_Matou Жыл бұрын
Sharding hands down is the worst thing that ever happened to WoW imo.
@Shiirow
@Shiirow Жыл бұрын
sharding is just a half step to avoid merging servers due to the public view on server mergers. sharding _"When you have to merge servers without actually merging servers"_
@osiria_turtle
@osiria_turtle Жыл бұрын
Turtle WoW best WoW!!!
@longwildernesswalks
@longwildernesswalks Жыл бұрын
I'll never go back to retail. I tried DF and absolutely hated it. WoW lost all it's appeal (to me) when all of a sudden everything became a linear story that you HAD to do. There was no alternative to doing the story. Instead of me being able to figure it out as I go, I was put in a lane and told to never leave it. WoW died at Cata... it's never been WoW since.
@Shiirow
@Shiirow Жыл бұрын
what linear story? wow has never had a linear story you had to do. Even DF didnt seem linear at all. the zones were just boring as shit.
@franciscotolley
@franciscotolley Жыл бұрын
awqsome vid insta sub
@jamesblackwell2067
@jamesblackwell2067 Жыл бұрын
all blizz has to do to fix wow is make classic+ and make all the specs playable
@zmau7219
@zmau7219 Жыл бұрын
FLYING SUCKS
@smallrose323
@smallrose323 Жыл бұрын
I really hope they dont put LFD into wotlk classic... I enjoy the lfg system as it is right now, as its just a good tool for people to find their groups for dungeons if they temselves do a bit of work. a group being put together automaticallly would make me sad
@bogdanrotaru6101
@bogdanrotaru6101 Жыл бұрын
I would make leveling in each expansion different: make it take the same time as it took from 1-60 in classic, but when you reach max level, all of your alts are max level too.
@RealArtVandelay
@RealArtVandelay 11 ай бұрын
You cant really blame Blizzard for trying to automate some game features more if they want to survive, and to me thats okay, for both new and returning players. I dont think it kills any multiplayer vibe as much as it accelerates any in-game mechanic. Quest and inventory managements goes in the same direction, technology evolves, and new generations are born into it. I wouldnt expect kids today to grind like we used to back in 2004, we didnt know better and didnt have much choice, it is human nature to build tools to help with any work, even in leasure, which is why people chose to add scripts and macros back then (until Blizz removed them). They were later integrated into the basic game. WOW is nostalgia for me, but if I was to get back to it after 15 years, I wouldnt want to grind for months before reaching my goals. Once the initial excitement has passed, people arent willing to put as much effort in it, and they have to make it more appealing, convenient and easy, so that the player can focus on more and new appealing gameplay. I use scripts on my PC to save time, I would expect them to exist in any complex video games. Clicking a "Find group" button would definitely work for me rather than typing LFG a thousand times in the open chat. But thats just me :)
@bamf6603
@bamf6603 Жыл бұрын
I m not playing wow classic untill they release pandas.
@techmaster9775
@techmaster9775 Жыл бұрын
Well MoP isn't really classic anymore anyways now is it?
@klauskleber248
@klauskleber248 Жыл бұрын
Wow is death for me bc ppl are so freaking bad. After 50 ulduar runs this bots still don't play mechanics and if u say anything ur the toxic dude because they sug and u said it 😂😂
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