I needed to see it for myself so I figured that was probably the easiest way, and a good way to conserve test shirts 🙌🏻

Thanks dude, they're definitely worth a shot in my opinion. I don't even want to look at my old static frames now

Thanks, I thought that would be a fun idea to show the difference. I needed to see it for myself too

How have the ECO screens held up for 5 months of use now?

Thanks a lot. It's not an easy thing to take on but it's totally worth it 🤘🏻

So far I'm really liking them!

Shayway They’re great. Sooner you change over the sooner your quality goes up and costs go down.

@@CoryFloodwayPrintCo See what you started =P

Daniel Mullins haha they’ve been around for years! Thank the suppliers for getting a wider variety of mesh haha that’s all that was holding me back before. These things pay for themselves 💰

@@CoryFloodwayPrintCo Yeah I know but, you posted the first detailed video on it. These suppliers need to start sponsoring people like you and Lee. You guys are selling this shit for them. If it wasn't for both of your videos I wouldn't have just dropped $900 on those screens.

These things take all the work out of that for you haha, they're awesome

@@leestuart38 awesomeness do you have any tips or favs on ink about to start shopping for the press and everything

Thanks a lot man

Thanks a lot. A video on the different mesh counts is something I plan to make eventually

Thanks for watching 🤘🏻

Thanks! My music stays secret 🤫

Pull the trigger! It's crazy how much less pressure it takes to clear that thin thread mesh. Between that and the ez squeegee it's like I don't even have to try anymore

Lee Stuart lol. Just bought 12 with cryocoat which is on sale and got a pack of films for free. Happy Sunday homie.

The bloopers are slowly becoming a favorite it seems haha

I definitely plan to check those ones out before I commit to ditching my static's, I've heard a lot of good things

Jake Damis More expensive up front but they pay for themselves in only a couple panels! Especially if you’re not local to a great stretcher.

The old Panel frames do not come close to comparing with the Eco frames. Old 12-16N They are not even comparable. The HD Eco frame is even better.

Hey Lee, I know this has been sitting a while, but feel free to email me ron@shurloc.com to get a demo pack of E-Z Frames with Endurance Panels headed your way.

Definitely a cool system

These ones are about double the weight I'd say, so they aren't too bad. I'm gonna be giving them a much longer shakedown this week to see if there's anything else I can learn

Print the right way. Get an exposure and unit, emulsion, and learn how to use it.

@@leestuart38 that's the correct way to start

They're super good so far, really liking them

How often do you have to reset the tension on the frames? Really interested in doing this. Have a bunch of frames sitting around with tears bc sending them back to be rescreened is more expensive than buying new frames. Thanks

Really depends on the wall thickness of the tubing. A lot of the cheaper stuff is very thin wall and would probably bow under that kind of tension, but I have a few frames from F&H that are beefy as hell and would definitely hold. But these things are definitely a far better option for us all around and the cost savings will add up quickly I'm sure.

Lee Stuart Yeah man the math works out to them being cheaper in like two panels. I went over that in my video about them, I’m super stoked on these! If you didn’t see it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrOhptpeuam2kXk.html

@@leestuart38 Can confirm bowing at higher tensions. I stretched Saati 158 Hi-Tex in a Newman Roller to 40N/cm and glued it to a static aluminum. Right after cutting it out of the Newman, the tension dropped to 34N/cm and has bowing on all four sides of the static. I just tagged you in the post I made in the Rogue Printers group about it a couple days ago. Now to see if the pros of higher tension outweigh the cons of bowed aluminum frames.

Tim McElheny You may see some problems from the bowing, especially if the mesh isn’t straight within your image area. Like Lee said there are some beefier static frames though. The mesh can always hold higher tension, it’s not specific to thin thread if anything they hold lower tensions and perform better at lower tensions than thicker threads. But they need a solid frame for those higher tensions and that, plus shipping problems is a huge reason you won’t see glued statics going to far above 21n.

@@CoryFloodwayPrintCo Stretching and glueing the frames was a lot of work anyway. The mesh looked pretttttty straight in the image area, but I am 100% eyeballing it. It was fun dialing in the process, but I'm going to order my next batch of screens pre-stretched. This was more of an experiment to see if screens with tension in the newton range specified by the manufacturer printed better than the pre-stretched, lower newton, screens. I used the Saati mesh because I was reading that they have great mesh. Before I stretched my own, I was using GoldUP pre-stretched screens. The screens I stretched with the Saati mesh print better than the GoldUp screens. The ink clears easier and it seems to lay down a more even layer across the entire image. I have a DIY set-up so for me, in my situation, the screens I've stretched are working better for me at the moment. I'm going to order some pre-stretched screens next time though. I'm going to do some research and see who's claiming they got the best.

The kit mesh only

Send them to a place that re-meshes screens like I mentioned

No I've never tried the shur-loc frames. I've gone back to static frames entirely

@Dtag1971 H to retension the Click Frames couldnt you just do an additional fold or 2 at the plastic tip before tucking it in the groove? I do not have them yet but seems instead of 1 fold as Lee mentioned you could do additional folds as the screens age. ?!?!?!?!

I just have a super small dewalt compressor, you don't need anything big or expensive in this case

No you should still reclaim as normal, this is just to replace mesh easily or have multiple mesh options with minimal frames

You can not remove the mesh and store it with an image on there if that's what you're asking. But otherwise they're great screens, haven't had any issues yet

@@leestuart38 Thanks. I asked because theres an old video circulating on youtube saying that you can store the screens with the images on them already for reuse. I was curious if you had tried it. Definitely would be great those of us who print and constantly turning over screens.

They're ok, I have mixed feelings about then now. It's really depends on your needs. For me, I've gone back to static screens for the most part. I only bring these out when printing hoodies because I have them loaded with thin thread mesh, which makes printing hoodies a lot easier.

@@leestuart38 Thank you for your reply! Saved me from a lot of trouble. Those things are expensive! By the way, bro what are you doing printing stuff... your film making skills are way too good!

It's about time someone took that bait

Always both

My business sites are both on the Shopify platform

Thank you someone who helps lol keep it up with the videos I love them

😂😂😂 yes!

Buy the satti from ryonet are whoever ( italian mesh). Ive found the Chinese mesh to be junk. 5 out of 10 of the Chinese mesh tore for me. None of the Italian mesh

If they popped during stretching, you might not have been doing it right. You stretch the long sides first and then the ends, also use a slow fluid motion while stretching them into place. If it was after the stretching process, then there's a good chance the exposed mesh on the back got damaged like I did.

What type of mesh? Weird that they all did it. But definitely check for debris anywhere the mesh touches before putting tension on it. Good luck 👍🏼

Honestly, no haha. I haven't used them in quite a while. I still like the same aspects I mentioned, but I should have reclaimed one in the video. That part is pure ass

This is not right and not how these were designed to be used, as much as people like to believe it. For a single color design you might be able to get away with it, but that design is still not going to go back on that frame 100% straight and true, anything multicolor is completely out of the question. Mesh also isn't made to be continuously stretched over and over, so it will lose tension and break a lot faster and you're just spending more money than buying more frames in the first place.

The cost is listed in the link in the video description. Very easy to order

@leestuart38 my bad. I was on the nortech site. We don't order from ryonet so I never look there. Thank you!

Rutland streetfighter is still my main white. I have a few others to try though

Matte black

You need the panels

Canada

I do not, but I plan on making some stuff in the future

@@leestuart38 kk

Ryonet is where to go

FUCK NVM BRO I JUST REALIZED YOUR HEAD IS SHAVED 👽

I haven't had any pop since that first one, but it's something I plan on keeping an eye on for a bit

😂😂😂

I really don't think so. They probably wouldn't stretch back onto the frame without slightly warping the image somehow

Looks like you can... Not 100% sure these are the same, looks the same to me kzfaq.info/get/bejne/atx3atOdp9KRenk.html

Haha it'll be a while before I convert fully

How about respecting people just being themselves, instead of trying to bend them into something that makes you more comfortable? Beat it....fucker

For 6 frames, the tool and the panels. 2 of those things last forever, then you're only paying $12 to replace mesh when needed, and nowhere near the shipping cost of a complete frame. It's a huge money saver in the long run if you invest

I do that when I'm making them 🤷🏻‍♂️

To hold this big ass brain 🧠