HOW YOU UNLOAD A NEW TRAM FROM THE TRUCK - Alstom Bombardier E2 Tram 6098

HOW YOU UNLOAD A NEW TRAM FROM THE TRUCK - Alstom Bombardier E2 Tram 6098 - Melbourne Trams

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This is how Alstom (Bombardier) deliver a tram of the Doolan's Heavy Haulage Truck when the tram arrvies at Yarra Trams Preston Workshops and New Preston Tram Depot. In this case the tram is E2 6098 and the tram is delivered all over white before the PTV
Livery is applied at Preston. The Doolan's truck and trailer is long and has to be to accommodate the 34 metre tram. There is also a separate drive control on the trailer which moved the tyres and allows the trailer to move about in tight situations such as this one.
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This is the third last tram to be delivered in the current order. Sit back and enjoy the interesting tram delivery.
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@lptf5441 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks for sharing. My 2 cent tip for next time... try overlaid subtitle style notes instead of stopping the video footage with a black screen all the time. It makes for a much smoother experience for viewers.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the thoughts. I've had comments saying some like the black screen and some like the overlays. I can certainly revisit that.

@bohicajohnson7203 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, subtitles!!

@nkiey 3 жыл бұрын

Alternative method: 1. Release chains, 2. Reverse at speed, 3. Apply brake.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

That would work and you wouldn't need the tractor 😂😅🤣

@HiddenWindshield 3 жыл бұрын

And, hey, if you line it up right, you might even be able to use the tram afterward!🤣

@davidlang1125 3 жыл бұрын

What an incredible piece of engineering that trailer is!

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Yea indeed and the crew do an amazing job as well.

@neilburns8869 3 жыл бұрын

I agree, but absolutely necessary as we saw.

@davidcundy 3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure this was the truck with tram that I saw parked outside of Heidelberg McDonald's, heading west towards Preston, at midnight one night when I went in to get a coffee, before picking up my partner from work. Awesome.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Probably right. I don't know the route but that would seem pretty right

@railtrolley 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! The Kenworth COE prime mover is a ballast tractor. Not a common sight in Australia. Most heavy haul uses a converter dolly coupled to the prime mover's fifth wheel. I used to go to the Preston depot regularly, to pick up and deliver these orange painted electrical boxes, which I transported to and from an off-site overhaul/repair shop, (in Bayswater). The drop off/pick up point was behind the brick gatehouse off Miller St. Going in between the shop and the tram sheds meant you got quite close to the sheds' Traverser pit, and had to pay attention to not drop a wheel in it!

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

There's a new traverser at Preston as well. I don't know anything about trucks so your information is very interesting.

@jamesgovett2501 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comprehensive coverage, very interesting procedures and good work! 👍

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😀😀. Your contributions are always welcome.

@bentpixels6544 3 жыл бұрын

Alstom: We need to deliver this tram. The Boys: 1 trip?

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

One trip and a couple of attempts to reverse 😀😀

@tardismole 3 жыл бұрын

I'd never seen this done before. This was more involved than I realised. Brilliant. Thanks for sharing.

@christopherlovelock9104 3 жыл бұрын

@tardis mole. They cheated by having a "ready built" ramp. I have seen a lot of the European modern stock delivered. They simply back up to a line in the depot yard, unload loads of rail and build a ramp with carefully measured 'spacing bars' and supports underneath (of course). Then proceed to PUSH the tram off by hand, I've seen up to 7 car 'Bendy' trams unloaded like this and none have ever 'slipped off' the ramp. Everyone gives a hand - enthusiasts who were filming and all, - and then simply push it into the depot. Time taken in all around 50 minutes. There are several videos of this 'method' on YT if you 'dig around'. Personally I didn't see the need for the 'Overhead Gang' as they didn't raise the 'pantograph' until the tram was on a 'Main Depot' line.

@slaktriffid 3 жыл бұрын

A really nice looking tram.thanks..:)

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

It looks great and comes up pretty good when the green PTV livery is applied.

@Southwest_923WR Жыл бұрын

Very interesting! I have often wondered how we get new DART Light Rail cars here, so I'm quite sure its basically the same, except I'm inclined to think they are bought in by rail more or less. I see them in training consists on videos. Great video!👍🏿

@Schony747 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! The team is very well drilled at what they do and it's interesting to watch.

@CharlesKingsSmith 3 жыл бұрын

I am well and truly amazed by this video. I would've never thought that there are speed limits as high as 70km/h anywhere in Melbourne. This is unbelievable.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you can see limits as high as 80! Thanks for looking.

@CharlesKingsSmith 3 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 That's insanely dangerous. If you ride a bike at 80kph, you can spill your soy latte and ruin the new pair of vegan suede shoes.

@markfryer9880 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thanks for taking the time and effort to make this video of a somewhat hidden part of our tram system.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😀😀😀😀

@neilburns8869 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliantly informative and interesting video.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for having a look 😀😀😀

@manz1000 3 жыл бұрын

That was absolutely fabulous! I'm sending the URL to a truckie friend in NZ. Give the truckie a medal!

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty impressive work from the whole team 😀😀

@gorillaau 3 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 Horrid thing to have to do at night also. Pack another Thermos!

@matthewgruba8040 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty cool. Thanks for the vid.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for having a look

@ferky123 3 жыл бұрын

You'd think that they'd upgrade the trailer to remote control so that the operator could walk around and see what's happening. Also it would be safer for the operator as he could stand in one place and not worry about the truck running them over.

@weldmachine 3 жыл бұрын

I guess it's an old trailer they keep just for this job. Most of the new trailers are remote control. Funny thing with remote control ? Some companies prefer not to run remote control as other signals around them interfere with the signal. ( but this might be an excuse for not keeping up with technology also ?? LOL )

@jesstill7833 3 жыл бұрын

Nice piece of reversing skills cool

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty impressive but you would be pretty good after 48 trams

@baird55aus 3 жыл бұрын

he ought to get a job at a boat ramp!

@itechcircle9410 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate 😀😀😀😀

@AustralianLightsAndSirens 3 жыл бұрын

Great video mate!

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate 😀😀😀😀

@matthewciappara6506 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice and interesting

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matthew. Thanks for all your contributions.

@greghurrell9694 3 жыл бұрын

i aso never new how this was done great video. good to see australian content starting to appear on youtube. keep the vids coming

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

It's fascinating to see it in person. Thanks for having a look.

@jimmeade2976 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent job, especially the driving by the truck driver. In the early 1980s, Buffalo NY USA (NFTA) built its light rail system. The LRVs were built overseas and each vehicle was delivered to site on a flatbed, then lifted by crane over a fence onto the rail yard. This worked fine for all of the vehicles, except one. The slings slipped and the vehicle dropped, impaled onto the spiked iron fence. OOPS! Buffalo NFTA had one less vehicle in its fleet.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Trams have always been delivered to Preston. As the factory is about an hour away and Preston has no practical rail offloading facilities, this makes perfect sense.

@ferky123 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone needs a parts vehicle. 😜

@Bobrogers99 3 жыл бұрын

Good to see how smoothly they handle it. I presume from the number that you now have 98 E Class trams in operation. I suspect, however, that your A and B Class trams will remain in use for some time yet. Some routes require only a smaller-capacity tram, they're still quite functional, and then there is tradition and sentiment.... !

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

98 has been delivered which is what you saw here. 97 is in service and the A, B2 and Z3 trams look like being around for a few years yet!

@mce_AU 3 жыл бұрын

Nice.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😀😀😀😀. Thanks for your contributions.

@uzaiyaro 3 жыл бұрын

For whatever reason, I figured the factory would be part of the tram system or something, never gave thought to it. At least here in Queensland, our heavy rail is directly connected to factories and whatnot. I guess Gold Coast light rail would be similar to the situation here.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Alstom / Bombardier is connected to the heavy rail network. Trams as you point out is not. I'm sure G Link would be the same.

@weldmachine 3 жыл бұрын

I find it a bit surprising when the truck is ready to unload the tram at the ramp ? 2 guys laying on the ground guiding the truck into position ?? I would have thought there would be a better system to unload the tram. I guess it doesn't happen often enough to warrant a better system for unloading or loading. Good of you to be out on a cold night like this to make a video for us to enjoy while sitting at home with the heater on. Thanks for posting this video.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

I had just finished driving a test tram and stuck around for the delivery. Guiding the truck back is fairly normal as the rails on the truck need to line up perfectly with the delivery ramp. The last thing they want is a derailment off the truck.

@Bill_Bogan 3 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed watching this. Why not share it with the news services and the rest of Melbourne can see we are still getting more trams. :)

@greebo7857 3 жыл бұрын

More trams. wow.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Good idea. Yarra Trams have a media policy so I'll leave it to them to sort it out.

@brianmcdonald6519 3 жыл бұрын

Saw it was 19 minute video. Wondered why so long! After watching, very fascinating!! How long did the actual process take? I am assuming this is a very heavily edited video!!

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

All up around half an hour to 40 minutes from when the truck arrives. It's a well rehearsed process these days so it's only a matter of reversing the truck in which only takes a few attempts, up to the ramp and off. The process you saw was pretty well how it is with as you say some editing to speed up the experience.

@richardmcdonald7188 3 жыл бұрын

Is there any particular reason for the flashing street light when they were unloading?

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

It's very technical - it's been reported but hasn't been fixed. It's been flickering for months 😀😀

@weldmachine 3 жыл бұрын

It helps to remind you the power is still on, LOL.

@RetroGamer-zz5jn 3 жыл бұрын

our electric trains in states where i live have each car seperated by a interlock. only max 4 cars can be linked depending on the station but average length is 3 cars

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Here it's generally 2 car sets for the electric trains. I'm sure more could be coupled, but the station infrastructure won't allow trains that size to run in service.

@smartliving4464 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that Schony, very impressed by the size of these modern trams. How often do new trams arrive I wonder, would it be one or two every month ?

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Generally once a month at the current rate. Last one is delivered in September

@PhlanMichellePurss 3 жыл бұрын

Hay Brendan. From 8:40 to 8:50 it looks like the Rear Controllers doing the Hard Yards by pushing it by himself. By the camera angle. I don't know if anyone else thought this. Also before anyone say's anything. Yes I am quite aware it was the Prime Mover doing it.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

I saw that optical illusion as well 😀😀😀😀

@chrishartley1210 3 жыл бұрын

I think he was just making sure it didn't fall over.

@andrewpalm2103 3 жыл бұрын

Another facinating tram infrastructure video! Congratulations to the crew that handles this operation. Their skills are very evident. Your shot of the overhead "line truck" now makes me want to see a video on their work. Also, is there a "line car" to handle private right of way situations, or does the truck have a hi-rail setup? Growing up, my favorite piece of rolling stock on the Chicago, South Shore & South Bend RR was their line car, which was built from an old interurban car from an abandoned interurban electric. Cheers from Wisconsin.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Andrew. The crew from Doolan's Heavy Haulage are a well trained team now as you would expect after 48 deliveries. Thanks for all your contributions 😀😀😀😀

@deanwalker6640 3 жыл бұрын

i work in the overhead for yarratrams i have done many of tram deliveries to that depot . our line truck does have a high rail set up . we do all the maintenance and renewal of the electrical overhead system

@andrewpalm2103 3 жыл бұрын

@@deanwalker6640 Thanks for your reply, Dean! I hope to see a video sometime on how overhead maintenance gets done there on your system in Melbourne, which is very impressive.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

We need to get something organised then!

@markfryer9880 3 жыл бұрын

Brendan, once the livery is applied and the tram passes all acceptance checks, do they then get delivered by rail to the different depots that will house them? Kew, South Melbourne and which others?

@BrillOBuffalo 3 жыл бұрын

They only operate out of Preston and Southbank. So if it's allocated to Soutbank, it'll be transfered by rail.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

High speed braking acceptance is normally undertaken on the 96 light rail. The 1000km fault free testing is normally undertaken at Preston and then it'sallocated to Southbank or Preston. Both depots swap trams anyway so many E class end up at both depots at some point.

@heathertruskinger6214 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Brendan. I assume this always happens inthe ( very cold) wee small hours to allow for less traffic on St George's Road

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Less traffic on Bell St as well. Only held up about half a dozen cars in this case

@WillKemp 3 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 It seems completely insane to cart a tram through Melbourne on a truck, when it could cart itself on rails. If it wasn't for the Australian railway gauge lunacy, it could go on rails all the way from Dandenong.

@weldmachine 3 жыл бұрын

@@WillKemp You're using common sense with your thoughts ?? This will Never work when Government is involved in anything, LOL

@bearchan3181 2 жыл бұрын

How long or rather how far the new trams need to be tested before certified fit for use?

@Schony747 2 жыл бұрын

It's 1000km of fault free testing which is normally around 3 weeks from delivery and the rest of the fitout of the tram, livery aoication and testing.

@stevebarton1544 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, Is it my imagination, but was there minor damage to the centre of the white panel on the tram that can be seen when trailor is being reversed? And on the other end of the tram, the white panel is raised up, for some reason.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

No damage on the tram. The front panel is raised up so the tow bar can be connected underneath and to the tractor. You are better of having the raised panel working before you leave the factory knowing it works instead of having problems on arrival.

@themelbournerailfan Жыл бұрын

Hey, nice video and great to see you were there, is this tram at Preston depot or Southbank? Also I’ve been on that tram 🚈.

@Schony747 Жыл бұрын

6097 is a Southbank tram mate

@alan-sk7ky 3 жыл бұрын

How do ypu get a tram off a lo-loader? With much 'carefulling' how else😉

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

LOL 😀😀. Thanks for looking.

@gus3247365 3 жыл бұрын

Why di they build trams so far away from tram tracks ?

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

It's actually built right next door to a train track which is handy for the Vlocity heavy rail vehicle also being delivered. Since 1975, Trams have been built at the Dandenong Facility.

@NicholassTrainChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video mate. Where do these trams get built?

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Built at the old Comeng Factory Dandenong

@robinlecomte1242 3 жыл бұрын

Precision. If this move had been down 10 yrs ago?, the truck driver would have done the "come back, go forward, move to the left etc", now it is, turn the wheels, by "someone on foot". An interesting look at how new trams are brought to point of impending use. Tongue in cheek, was expecting to see at end (caution sign), in exterior area above driver's seat the sign "Not In Use".

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

The seat still had the plastic on the seat if that suffices 😀😀😀

@TheSkskitey 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting . Good to see some road vehicles still made in Australia . Why is the tram white , are all new trams white or do they come in different colours :-)

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

The tram is delivered white from the factory in Dandenong and is wrapped in the green PTV livery at Preston

@maccamacca7762 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid thank you! I wonder how long before those pesky tagers take to the tram with their cans. 😤

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Surprisingly these trams are left alone. But when they are tagged with Art Work, they do a big job!

@maccamacca7762 3 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 😉👍🍻

@kpdvw 3 жыл бұрын

Better to just drive onto a straight section of open track in the road and unload, but reversing made possible by SCHEUERLE Heavy transport trailer, Quality made in Germnay!

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Driving into the road would probably work. This is how trams are delivered here and it works pretty well. Thanks for looking.

@rorirocks6663 3 жыл бұрын

Engine in the truck sounds nice, do you know what engine it has?

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

No idea. I couldn't see any badge on the side of the Kenworth either.

@CRAIGKMSBISMARCKTIRPITZ533 3 жыл бұрын

They Run A Cummins Engine 😃. Though It Depends On The Customers Specs & What They Want 😃

@TomZ23 3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it be much easier to deliver these via existing rail lines? Are they a non-standard gauge?

@jackprice6599 3 жыл бұрын

Different gauge, different voltage. The trams actually are standard gauge 1,435 mm (international standard), Victorian trains run wider at 1,600 mm Trams are 600VDC, trains are 1500VDC

@Spacek531 3 жыл бұрын

Light rail typically does not connect to the heavy rail network, so a truck would be required to bridge the gap in the rails. At that point, they might as well load it onto a truck from the factory to remove the problems associated with transloading from a train flatcar to a truck. As far as towing the train on the tracks instead of loading it, in the US the trams do not have to comply with the same crashworthiness regulations that regular trains do, so they aren't allowed to tow it; I expect it's similar in Australia.

@martinum4 3 жыл бұрын

@@Spacek531 iirc when carried as cargo stuff doesn't need to be passenger-crash-norm-compliant. Imagine the tram just as a special load on a normal Wagon, here in Germany a company made special carts just to transport broad gauge locos as cargo: www.railadventure.de/equipment/ www.globalrailwayreview.com/news/23429/finland-welcomes-vectron-locomotive-for-broad-gauge-rail-system/

@Spacek531 3 жыл бұрын

@@martinum4 The loco in the article is a regular heavy rail train running on heavy rail tracks, so there's no problem with towing it on the rails with its wheels turning if it weren't for the difference in gauge.

@ianmontgomery7534 3 жыл бұрын

@@jackprice6599 Before they removed the railcrossings they could have made it dual gauge from Dandenong and then towed the trams with a diesel to an exchange point where it could be towed further along the tram network. I doubt it is feasible now.

@robertnelson68 3 жыл бұрын

very interesting, I looked on Google Maps, and on Street view, there is nothing there... it hasn't been updated. What has been updated is the normal view...

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

That's interesting considering it was converted years ago now.

@fajoopsa 3 жыл бұрын

They really didn’t think about access for delivering new trams when the built that depot.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

The old setup had access near the new west gate entrance before the redevelopment. So this set up isn't as easy as reversing like the old days but it's still functional

@user-kb3nx8hw9e 3 жыл бұрын

WA plates on tralier to avoid tax lol

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't even notice that!

@paulwilliams5208 2 жыл бұрын

when do a "tram network" become a "light rail system" citys are creating a new mode of transport and are calling them "light rail" but then Melbourne is a "tram network" and having more and more of the same "light rail" vehicles

@Schony747 2 жыл бұрын

Melbourne is a legacy network so will always be known as a tram network. It's always an interesting discussion point and I don't think there's really a proper answer either.

@Petriefied0246 3 жыл бұрын

Good video, but I can't believe how poorly thought out that delivery method is! I worked at the Edinburgh tram depot and they had a proper road in and out for the trams, not to mention a specific area for unloading the trams.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Space and design would have been an issue as Preston Workshops has been around for many years. There aren't many tram deliveries and For the 40 minutes it takes to unload, it works pretty well

@ianmontgomery7534 3 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 the size of trams has increased a lot too. They were one carriage when Preston was built

@Petriefied0246 3 жыл бұрын

@@Schony747 I wasn't aware that it was a legacy depot. I guess there wasn't anything else for it!

@TheDarkFalcon 3 жыл бұрын

I like the content, but your white text boxes are really annoying, I wish you just put that text over top of the video instead of stopping the video to put text constantly 😵

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comments. I've fallen behind with this lot of replies. Thanks for looking.

@iannickCZ 3 жыл бұрын

These informative titles are annoying when you kept them on screen for such long time...BTW interesting as it is done on open public road, I expect some tram depot...

@martinum4 3 жыл бұрын

Depots either are not high enough for the trucks to drive in or are just not long enough

@slatibaadfast 3 жыл бұрын

if he had turned right at the lights first, he would have been able to back it straight in and the whole episode would have taken half the time. even the guy editing and uploading was paid by the hour. advice from a retired road train driver.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

No pay by the hour for the photographer. I had just finished running a test tram. Not sure why they back in this way but I'm sure there's someogic behind it. Thanks for having look.

@larryjanson4011 3 жыл бұрын

I call fail on the planing dept. as always they never even thing about the truck, or how it is going to make a could have made a rd side track to just do a straight line back up.

@Schony747 3 жыл бұрын

The infrastructure was already there. It works OK for the few trams that actually get delivered but as you say improvements can always be made.