I bought a Powermax this year and love it. I shot and compared a comparable PSE & Bowtech bow and just liked the overall feel of the Hoyt. I bought it primarily to hunt with and to shoot in the back yard. I used to shoot competitively 20 years ago but those days are over with. I thought it was a lot of bow for the price. I did upgrade my sight and stabilizer but that is all I have done besides shoot it. Thanks for a good video and good hunting!
@tommyrice7398 жыл бұрын
Good review. I too was down to Hoyt vs Bowtech and went with Hoyt for the exact same reasons you gave in your review.
@WecandoKaizen8 жыл бұрын
Hi, I bought a powermax with fuse kit this year in May. It was difficult to chose a good bow. In France, I don't find a friend who had this bow. I saw the good testimonial in US archery and i bought it. I don't regret. I think it's very very accurate and pleasant to use. I love it :) Thanks for this video.
@davidellisoutdoors32478 жыл бұрын
Hi Jean-Marc, thank you for the kind words. Just out of curiosity what do you hunt with your bow in France? I really think you will like your boat. Hoyt is a very reputable high-quality manufacturer and I have always been very pleased with the ones I have used. I know there are a lot of good bow manufacturers out there as well but Hoyt is certainly one of the best if not the best.
@WecandoKaizen8 жыл бұрын
Hi to answer your question, there are bow hunters, however, this is not the majority. Almost all the bows are US. Bear , Bowtech, Booster, Firefox, Hoyt, Kinetic, Mathews, Mission, Premium, PSE, Booster, Win & Win But "Get serious - Get HOYT" :)
@skipfarris3468 жыл бұрын
I have been shooting a Hoyt Vortec since 2001 and bought the PowerMax Brotherhood edition this year. I love it. I think it was worth it plus my girlfriend doesn't laugh at my bow now and say I'm lost in time. Lol. Good vid.
@andrewlyon46924 жыл бұрын
I was in a gun shop a couple months ago buying a handgun, Im lefthanded and someone left a powermax there for collateral and never returned. It had all the kit stuff on it. It doesn't have a scratch on it, but mine is black. For 100 buks I took it home..Im liking it very well.
@davidellisoutdoors32474 жыл бұрын
Andy Lyon you did well!! Please make sure the strings are still good or replace them. If it sat in the gun shop for a few years they may not be. Being left handed I’m assuming the bow was also. I hope you get a big one with it this year!
@travisparsons636 жыл бұрын
That’s all I’ve ever had. I like to keep a open mind like you. Mathews just feels good in my hand
@deantreloar4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. David. I went today with my son to look at our first bows and the Powermax is what I am considering. We are in New Orleans, close enough to check out Bowie Outfitters!
@davidellisoutdoors32474 жыл бұрын
Dean Treloar awesome Dean! Best of luck to you both. It’ll be a great Christmas for someone! You’ll find the one(s) that feel best in your /his hands and do great.
@travissmith-wz5nc7 жыл бұрын
i have the charger got it the year before the powermax came out. i wore my charger out shooting 3 to 4 times a week. thanks for video i didnt see much differance between the powermax and the defiant series last week at my local bow shop. keep up the videos. travis
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
travis smith did you literally wear the charger out, if so, what did you have to fix/replace? Just strings?
@travissmith-wz5nc7 жыл бұрын
David Ellis, strings cables and dropped it out of a tree. bow wont tune after dropping it out of tree in late archery season. 😀dont like admitting i dropped it out of a tree but i hunt in heavy brush on esge of a cedar swamp in nothern mi.
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
travis smith I'm laughing but not laughing! I dropped my cell phone, my bow, my quiver by itself, several arrows from my quiver and my go pro this year at different times. If you hunt enough it's gonna happen. You're not alone.
@mylunajoyea84567 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for that comparison. I bought a Cabela's bow made by Bowtech - I have heard great things about them - after my powermax was stolen (October, last fall). They both shoot really well. Smooth and powerful. I'm no pro either but you don't need a two thousand dollar rig to get an elk at 10 yards. I would never shoot past 30.
@mylunajoyea84567 жыл бұрын
Except for practice and 3D of course.
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
Merlin Joyea thanks for the comment. Many years ago I first heard about how good BowTech's were but the knock was that they didn't know if they would be around for very long. Obviously they have withstood the test of time and are still great bows
@itscork7 жыл бұрын
Merlin Joyea I don't mind taking longer shots. I stole a really nice Hoyt Powermax last October and it shoots like a dream!
@Flamablanca2547 жыл бұрын
itscork hahahahahahahahahhaha
@travisparsons636 жыл бұрын
I shot one today and it was great. But I ran across a new Mathews htr. I ended up buying the Mathews but that Hoyt was a super nice bow. Thank you sir for replying. Good hunting
@davidellisoutdoors32476 жыл бұрын
travisparsons63 Mathews is a great bow. I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
@justinpollard82087 жыл бұрын
c I also have powermax and love this midrange bow. But I added QAD drop way and a hha 1 Pin sight and it is good out to 60 Yards all day. Very flat shooting bow with helps compensate for error. Love it for hunting and 3D shoots. Prob shot over 200 arrows thru it and have owed it for only 4months. With noproblems.And killed my first deer with it already this year.And 2 more tags to go.Recomend it
@tominiemi42556 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviev. Cos of this i ended up for powermax, and cant be more satisfied for that.
@davidellisoutdoors32476 жыл бұрын
Tomi Niemi WOW! I’m humbled to have been some help. I still really like mine and hope you’ll enjoy yours as much.
@swampbiologist3 жыл бұрын
David, when you decide to challenge yourself, get with me and I will introduce you to Traditional Archery! My moto is "if it were easy, anybody could do it"!
@renelopez22444 жыл бұрын
By listing to the let off and impact they seem to be identical.. Accuracy and vibration seem to have been more noticeable on the older hoyt. It's all preference
@Bamamike2237 жыл бұрын
I Have a Hoyt Vtech. Looks Identical to you Xtech and the Ultratech. Love all three.. Except those God Aweful Strings... ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!! GREAT VID AND WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK!!!
@57HEMIviken7 жыл бұрын
Roll Tide I have a hoyt magnatec zr200 and it looks identical as well. was thinking of getting one of the two bows he was looking at but I'm just gonna shoot my old bow until it blows up
@Bamamike2237 жыл бұрын
Haha I hear you there. These are the last of the Dependable bows so It probably will never blow up if you change the string and cables. They are made like an Old Chevy... Just caint kill it!! :)
@57HEMIviken7 жыл бұрын
Roll Tide I'm still rocking it %100 factory shooting old school aluminum arrows
@Bamamike2237 жыл бұрын
Me too and I love it!!
@57HEMIviken7 жыл бұрын
Roll Tide only thing I don't love is the weight kind of a heavy little bow
@adaywithdom9857 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that review helped me a lot
@travissmith-wz5nc7 жыл бұрын
Be careful in a summit self climber on frosty mornings. Thanks for the video. For the 300 dollars in parts and labor i need to put in my charger i can get a new bare powermax for a hundred more. Wish i hadnt already put 150 into it. Another video i seen the guy owned a archery shop and said he thought hoyt shot them selves in the foot building such a nice bow for the money. trav.
@davidellisoutdoors32478 жыл бұрын
Hi Jean-Marc, thank you for the kind words. Just out of curiosity what do you hunt with your bow in France? I really think you will like your boat. Hoyt is a very reputable high-quality manufacturer and I have always been very pleased with the ones I have used. I know there are a lot of good bow manufacturers out there as well but Hoyt is certainly one of the best if not the best.
@daveyboy89075 жыл бұрын
OLd bows rock..I still shoot a hoyt tenacity2 with power cams..great bow. I am looking into new bows as we speak..
@jshaffer33706 жыл бұрын
I would say the biggest difference to me is the sound it makes when you draw. I can’t see the rest you have but it sounds much quieter
@c.a.m.matherly99587 жыл бұрын
nice video, good shooting looking at this bow I have the charger and love it. just a word of advice if you go to a tubeless peep sight it will make bow more quiet and a little faster due to no tube slapping as you shoot...
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
Cliff Matherly : interesting. I haven't thought of that. I've never heard that the tube creates any noise, but that being said, I'm not sure I need it and I'd rather not have it all things considered.
@c.a.m.matherly99587 жыл бұрын
Ya it's usually a personal preference I use to use a peep with tubing until it decided to break and slap me in the face lesson learned lol...
@micro-pigoffroadclub83877 жыл бұрын
C Matherly I can go with quieter but how does it go faster with a tubeless peep? I personally can't stand a peep with a tube but one could stand to reason that having that elasticized tube pulling forward on the string could increase the speed.
@c.a.m.matherly99587 жыл бұрын
you gain speed by having no tube attached to the cable and the tube slaps as you shoot very noticeable out in the woods. the peep sights that have no tube are small profile. the tube will also get worn over time and stretched out, needing replaced where the tubeless ones don't need it. G5 meta peeps are good ones to look at...again it's personal preference but when hunting don't want a fail in the tube in the woods as it has happened..I did pick up a power max and nitrum 30 love the power max.
@pedrt698248 жыл бұрын
Nice bow! Got a question about the tweeking that made you choose the Hoyt. Did the bow tech you talked to tell you what things that could be tweeked on the Hoyt but not the Bowtech were? Ive got a Carbon Icon and really like it but ive been thinking about the Powermax. Havent shot the Powermax but I did shoot a Charger and liked it.
@davidellisoutdoors32478 жыл бұрын
Hi Pedro, I believe he did mention a specific adjustment he couldn't make on the Carbon icon, but I was getting so much information so fast that I didn't catch the details. Sorry. You can call Bowies Outfitters in Baton Rouge and ask for the archery shop and they can give you specifics. Their phone number is 225-766-1200. I wish I had a better answer for you but those guys can answer that question and others you may have as well.
@mikeymike9755 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks
@ivyleague32244 жыл бұрын
your older bow is classy like a pinky ring
@Michael_000015 жыл бұрын
Just went from a Bowtech Infinite Edge to the Hoyt PowerMax. Night and day. The Infinite Edge is a bow for someone just getting into compound bow shooting whereas the PowerMax is just on another level. Is it the most expensive with latest tech? No. But it's a great solid bow for the money and I'm certain I will kill deer with it this year.
@dougiefresh25215 жыл бұрын
Great review. Are there bass in that pond behind you?
@davidellisoutdoors32475 жыл бұрын
Dougie Fresh bass, bream and catfish!
@deehart92767 жыл бұрын
Hey I'm considering buying one next week for preparation for this bow season. My overall question is how did it perform during deer season, and just your overall opinion on it's accuracy and speed? Thanks!
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
I am very happy with it. Everything performed just as I hoped it would with one minor exception. The bow string shows a bit of wear or fraying where it rubbed against my backpack during all of my walks to and from stands. It's not enough to warrant replacing them yet, but I've never had a string show any wear after multiple years of carrying Ian around. I suspect the string quality is north as good as those I've had in the past. Every other aspect of the bow was terrific...at least after one year of use. It'll get a good workout again this year and I'll update if I find any issues. So far..so good.
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
Carrying "one" around, Quality is "not" as good
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
To answer your question, I'm not sure but I think 1.4" is a big deal. However, I've never heard of a draw length that short for an adult. Are you sure you are calculating it correctly?
@whitetails02888 жыл бұрын
all boys got to have their toys in your case a bow
@5jjt6 жыл бұрын
What is the difference in hand shock between the new Hoyt and the old one?
@benmaggoswd16 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the Xtec and Powermax at your setup shot through a chronometer.
@davidellisoutdoors32476 жыл бұрын
If I had one I would. I have done that but not recorded it. If I remember correctly, with a hunting setup, there was not a lot of difference. Xtec was about 275 fps and powermax was around 290 fps. It a tremendous difference but definitely noticeable.
@davidellisoutdoors32478 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, it is shooting about 20 feet per second faster so you're probably right.
@ProofBenny8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this Video!
@lillybunny90506 жыл бұрын
Hay not trying to sound hateful or anything I injoyed the video and it did help me out I ended up giting a powermax. How eaver I notes youer drawl weight is a bit much for you youer having to pull from the sky just somting you might wanna do is lower it a bit
@davidellisoutdoors32476 жыл бұрын
Brandon Gers thanks for your comment and for watching
@ChiefDoesStuff7 жыл бұрын
I'm brand new to archery. What is that string or tubing, that connects to those 2 sections of string. Just wondering if it is required, as it might get on my nerves a little bit, flopping around. Great video!
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
MahaloMoFo thank you and thanks for your comment. I'm sure others have had the same question. That tubing connects the peepsight to the string so that when the bow is pulled to full draw, it ensures the peepsight lines up straight.
@Steve-ym9ql4 жыл бұрын
love the house.
@anthonylee47136 жыл бұрын
I just bought this bow today to go elk hunting in Wa in sept. I see this vid is from 2016. How’s the bow holding up and how did you do during hunting season?
@davidellisoutdoors32476 жыл бұрын
just shy of two years and I love it. I've harvested only 4 does with it but it performed perfect every time. It was obviously tuned well at factory setup time and was ready to hunt at purchase. If I have to get picky there's 2 items I'd mention. One is the non-metal limb pockets. If I expected to keep the bow for 8-10 years that might be a concern but as technology advances I imagine I'll have a new one before any pocket wear becomes a problem. Secondly I notice the strings fray a little where they rub my backpack while slung over my shoulder when walking. String quality is not as good as my old bow but again I'll change them every couple of years anyway. Nothing else to be critical of that I've found. I love this bow.
@GreatWhiteStud Жыл бұрын
I like to have that hoyt xtec
@ReelinTension7 жыл бұрын
after shooting it a while what do you think. I'm looking to buy a 2017 or 2018 powermax soon
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
ReelinTension I really like it. It's accurate, smooth, easier to maneuver in trees than longer axle to axles, and fast. My only question has to do with the quality of the strings.
@olehemlock4 жыл бұрын
You were steadier with Xtec. 2004 Xtec/Ultratec are some of the best bows Hoyt ever made. 20003/2004 Hoyt’s had the best grip of any Hoyt’s made, let me rephrase that “any bow made”
@poppasmurf154 жыл бұрын
The power max has significantly less forward and less rock back on the shot...much more dead in hand than the old bow
@wyattshelton20804 жыл бұрын
Arrow level on your rest us low on the front for the powermax
@chillbilliesoutdoors47945 жыл бұрын
Do you still have the power maxx ..do u think it would be good for a seasoned archer as well as beginners
@davidellisoutdoors32475 жыл бұрын
Kyle Fohner yes I do still have it and it’s my primary hunting bow. I do think it’s a good bow for both a beginner as well as a seasoned archer. I will change my strings before this next season but that’s the only maintenance item so far. It’s probably not absolutely necessary but I don’t like even a small fray. I’ll get really good replacement strongs. It’s a really good shooting bow.
@chillbilliesoutdoors47945 жыл бұрын
@@davidellisoutdoors3247 thanks for your opinion I just cant see spending over a thousand dollars for a bow just seems crazy to me
@Jimmy635684 жыл бұрын
Just realized this guy has 4 fingers on his left hand, what a beast
@davidellisoutdoors32474 жыл бұрын
Rowdy Redskin you are very observant! I lost that years ago kneeboarding. Be careful with those things.
@Jimmy635684 жыл бұрын
That’s a story that needs telling
@cadennorris9606 жыл бұрын
Do you think the powermax would be a bad starter bow for a 15 year old? I’m tall but skinny.
@davidellisoutdoors32476 жыл бұрын
Bryan Norris I think it would be a terrific starter bow. However it could be much more than that as well. It could be a long term bow that can take you years into the future. You can easily spend twice as much but your definitely not getting twice the product. If you take care of it, it will serve you well till you decide to get a new one. Good luck with your decision.
@cadennorris9606 жыл бұрын
David Ellis Outdoors Thank you for the info I’ll hopefully get it soon and be practicing all summer before deer season
@DeltaJoker7 жыл бұрын
Great video - please do a follow up - also where do you live / hunt
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
John Nell thanks for your kind comments. I live in south Louisiana and hunt mostly in southwest Mississippi
@DeltaJoker7 жыл бұрын
David Ellis thanks for the reply - was asking for general knowledge; in in jersey right outside philly do you still love the bow? Any tips or recommendations? I'm a very green beginner. This was going to be my first bow; pretty sure same set up
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
John Nell I do still really like the bow. I've harvested one deer with it so far this year and it was a clean pass through at 25 yds. That is the only shot I've taken so i don't have a lot of evidence but so far so good. I definitely like the shorter axle to axle length and the maneuverability it affords me in the tree trying to get a shot and hanging in the bow hanger. I haven't come across anything about the bow I wish was different, at least not yet. As for tips, I would suggest not setting the draw weight so high that you can't pull it straight back without difficulty. I can pull back 70# but I set my draw weight at about 63 #, that way it's easy to pull and just as importantly, I can let off of full draw if I need to without it jerking me and spooking the deer. Also get a good release and practice shooting out to at least 20 yards beyond the distance you expect to actually shoot at deer in the woods. And practice from up in a stand and at very close distances. I find that at 10 yards and less my bow shoots about 4" higher than aim point and it was much higher than that for my older bow. I hope these tips help and I think you will really enjoy shooting such a nice bow.
@davidellisoutdoors32478 жыл бұрын
Hi Pedro, I believe he did mention a specific adjustment he couldn't make on the Carbon icon, but I was getting so much information so fast that I didn't catch the details. Sorry. You can call Bowies Outfitters in Baton Rouge and ask for the archery shop and they can give you specifics. Their phone number is 225-766-1200. I wish I had a better answer for you but those guys can answer that question and others you may have as well.
@DavidAcosta-nb7qb7 жыл бұрын
I want one now I'm getting one
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
David Acosta I think you will really be glad you did. All 5 stars from me so far.
@n2deep2cme317 жыл бұрын
Hello thanks for the information, I like your old bow are you looking to sell,,, Go Tigers LSU I'm from Franklin Louisiana thanks.
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
Denny Phillips Hi Denny, thanks for the feedback. I'm not interested in selling my old bow at this time as I use it as my backup. However if I decide to sell it in the future I'll let you know. Good hunting over the holidays and may God bless you and your family. Geaux Tigers! Guess we will find out if Jimbo is our new coach in a few days.
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
Denny Phillips by the way I see you are/we're in the Marines. Thanks for your service.
@travisparsons636 жыл бұрын
So how is the power maxx ?
@davidellisoutdoors32476 жыл бұрын
travisparsons63 just shy of two years and I love it. I've harvested only 4 does with it but it performed perfect every time. It was obviously tuned well at factory setup time and was ready to hunt at purchase. If I have to get picky there's 2 items I'd mention. One is the non-metal limb pockets. If I expected to keep the bow for 8-10 years that might be a concern but as technology advances I imagine I'll have a new one before any pocket wear becomes a problem. Secondly I notice the strings fray a little where they rub my backpack while slung over my shoulder when walking. String quality is not as good as my old bow but again I'll change them every couple of years anyway. Nothing else to be critical of that I've found. I love this bow.
@jonathangumpangkum55637 жыл бұрын
Where's the BowTech Carbon Icon hat keeps getting mentioned in this video?
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Gumpangkum i'm not sure what you mean by "where is it" but the one I shot was at Bowie outfitters in Baton Rouge. I did not show the bows that I chose not to buy and when I got home I did the video only showing my previous bow and comparing it to my new boat.
@jonathangumpangkum55637 жыл бұрын
in the first three seconds of footage, you mentioned four models of bows and so as I watching it through I like anyone though it would actually be a comparison of said bows with each making an onscreen appearance. by the time you're done, I realized you never did have a Carbon Icon so it perplexed why it was even bothered to be mentioned.
@andrewlarkin52397 жыл бұрын
I bet the power max is probably a little bit more forgiving than your old bow.
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
Andrew Larkin maybe so but I'm not sure. I consistently shoot about 4 inches right of target at 35 yards. It may be because of the different grip on the PowerMax causing some hand torque but I really don't think that is it. I have also changed to a new release that is a different type and I suspect that is the culprit. I need to shoot my old release to test that theory but I just haven't done it yet. Otherwise I love the new PowerMax even more than my old xtec.
@Bamamike2237 жыл бұрын
If you want to sell your Xtec, let me know. I will buy. But you can keep the LSU strings. ugghh ROLL TIDE!! :)
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
Roll Tide you can't afford it with the LSU strings. But I'm keeping it for backup bow for time being. If I change my mind I'll let you know.
@Bamamike2237 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha Awesome..and too Funny.. Thanks and Keep me posted. I hope you enjoy your new Bow and Happy Hunting my Friend
@davidellisoutdoors32477 жыл бұрын
Roll Tide likewise good buddy! I've got one with it so far and am very impressed. However I seem to be having a hard time even finding a deer here lately. Have a great hunting season and I know that v tech is a good bow also. I couldn't hardly tell the difference between it and the x tech but I've only seen v tech once briefly.
@alexc88455 жыл бұрын
dont punch your release
@davidellisoutdoors32475 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input
@ronthibeau68886 жыл бұрын
To much draw weighed. Poor form on draw back.
@davidellisoutdoors32476 жыл бұрын
Ron Thibeau I say you don't know what you're talking about. Be specific, what about the drawback are you referring to? The draw weight is perfect for me.
@ronthibeau68886 жыл бұрын
We'll what I was seeing us you pulling over target to draw back. Should be a smooth pull back not leaving target. Common when draw weight is to high. Just an observation. Most people I've watched on utube are drawing to heavy a weight
@davidellisoutdoors32476 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. While that is especially important when drawing back on a deer, it is not as important when target practicing. It takes much more muscle control and strength to do that and if you're going to shoot more than 10 or so times, you needlessly fatigue yourself and your accuracy will degrade. When I'm finished physically preparing for season, I'll then begin shooting much fewer shots but psychologically preparing. That's when perfect form shooting practice comes. Good hunting. I hope you get a big one.