HP 5327B Nixie Universal Counter / DVM repair

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CuriousMarc

CuriousMarc

Жыл бұрын

We rescue a Hewlett-Packard 5327B Universal Counter / DVM Nixie beauty.
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@keitha.9788
@keitha.9788 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes when I watch your videos I want to cry. Reminds me of the good old days when men were men, and Hewlett Packard was known as the best test equipment maker. Today, they are known mainly as just another company that makes printers........
@jlwilliams
@jlwilliams Жыл бұрын
I find it absolutely fascinating to listen in on the process of Marc talking his way through a problem to the solution.
@EngineeringVignettes
@EngineeringVignettes Жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was saved. Really nice unit. 660 MHz with nixies! Nice.
@HfLuo
@HfLuo Жыл бұрын
The early HP 5340A also uses nixies and goes up to 18GHz! Wish I could have one, but currently I only have two younger units with LED displays.
@christianweagle6253
@christianweagle6253 Жыл бұрын
​@@HfLuo Jitter is the killer with those early GHz dividers, though.
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk Жыл бұрын
He gets a bad rap, but President Nixie didn’t do that bad, he made a decent job of displaying things at HP.
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 Жыл бұрын
There is an Australian-French chef that I enjoyed watching called Manu Feildel. He's very French and when he enjoys a meal, he will say "I onjoy ziss." Each time I finish watching one of your videos, I hear Manu saying "I onjoyed ziss video."
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc Жыл бұрын
Hey my accent is from Brooklin ;-)
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 Жыл бұрын
@@CuriousMarc I should have known! I'm bad at that. That 'Frisco Brooklyn is really hard to pick out. :D
@premikyam2726
@premikyam2726 Жыл бұрын
back in the day I worked for the HP scientific instruments division. Fundamentally GC-mass spectrometry : 5970 / 5987 / 5880 . Never forget the lesson I learnt from an old-hand regarding the critical importance of cleaning and reseating those large block connectors plus cleaning off motherboards to restore system lock-ups and intermittant issues. Still applies today even with the latest agilent MS instruments with 3 cooling fans sucking in dust.
@acmefixer1
@acmefixer1 Жыл бұрын
I get a sense of relief and joy to see another piece of fine test equipment rescued from being scrapped. 👍 BTW the 2N3563 and PN3563 are from the same process as the 2N918 and PN918, which is a bit better version. They're all about the same cost.
@pixelpatter01
@pixelpatter01 Жыл бұрын
I love your "train of thought" repair walk throughs. Thank you. I never used HP gear in my work but they are a thing of beauty and I own a few of them.
@Shady97342
@Shady97342 Жыл бұрын
Marc I really enjoy watching you fix things. Thanks for sharing as always.
@lwilton
@lwilton Жыл бұрын
I have a counter that is very similar to that (less the volt meter function). It had a bad counter IC that was an HP special part, and of course it was broken and unobtanium. But there was a Signetics part that had close enough to the same function, except one of the inputs was inverted. I ended up hand-building a dual chip carrier that plugged into the original IC pinout and installed the near-similar chip and an inverter package. It's been working just fine for 30 or (maybe by now) 40 years.
@TheDefpom
@TheDefpom Жыл бұрын
Always clean all of the board edge connections and switches before digging into the diagnosis, I have found gold plated edge connections to still be problematic when things get to be 20+ years old, it is always one of the first things I do.
@rsc4peace971
@rsc4peace971 Жыл бұрын
As a retired Ph.D. material scientist but a DIY electronics tinkerer, I find your channel very educational and entertaining. Several years ago before the prolific YT content from experts like you, it was very frustrating to troubleshoot vintage gear like you are showcasing. You are like an "ELCTRONIC's MAGICIAN" and think you can see those "TRONS" running around (or not) the circuits going about their job. After watching several of your content, I am not as intimidated by most vintage equipment which is so well built to last or "RESURRECTED"
@video99couk
@video99couk Жыл бұрын
Everyone loves a Nixie display. Repaired a Fluke Nixie multimeter myself a while back.
@HudsonGTV
@HudsonGTV Жыл бұрын
Nixie tubes are my favorite! I have a Fluke 8375A my dad's friend gave to me for free that has nixie tubes. He told me he got it from a buddy who used to work for Lockheed, so I would not be surprised if thats where it came from (given it has an outline of where I assume an asset tag used to be, and the fact that I found documentation showing that it was recommended for working on some missile system). The thing is massive (its designed to be rack mounted or on a bench), and the update rate can be adjusted with a knob. I do not have a single modern multimeter that has such a high sample rate (this thing updates several times/second at its highest polling rate). It is also still super accurate (according to my modern multimeter with much less resolution).
@douro20
@douro20 Жыл бұрын
I have a few boards out of an 8300A which was one of the first- if not the first- 5-1/2 digit DMMs from the early 1970s. It's too bad I wasn't able to get the whole thing but I do have the display board with eight miniature Nixie tubes.
@tezinho81
@tezinho81 Жыл бұрын
Fluke, like HP and Tektronix, made professional gear to really last a long time. Durable stuff.
@graemedavidson499
@graemedavidson499 Жыл бұрын
I get a strong feeling of guilt every time I see a Nixie tube. I scrapped a failing Wang 720C about 40 years ago and I still regret it to this day!
@hicknopunk
@hicknopunk Жыл бұрын
I forgive you as then you were blind
@paulklasmann1218
@paulklasmann1218 Жыл бұрын
Probably most of us have secret guilty feelings about disposing of old electrical equipment that in hindsight should have kept. For me its the striping down and throwing out of a Commodore PET (what was I thinking), various dot matrix printers and monitors.
@tezinho81
@tezinho81 Жыл бұрын
I threw away my first PC, an AT, and sold my PS/2 in the 90s. Seemed a great deal at the time as I had a clone 486 instead, one would now be a museum piece and the other, landfill.
@graemedavidson499
@graemedavidson499 Жыл бұрын
@@hicknopunk Thank you. It gets worse…. Will anyone forgive my bench solder fume “extractor” for sounding like a PDP8 powering up…
@anissoulhaci2653
@anissoulhaci2653 Жыл бұрын
I threw away my sega genesis and i still regret it !
@daniel38535
@daniel38535 Жыл бұрын
Everyone ❤️ Nixies!
@jxtq27
@jxtq27 Жыл бұрын
"I've found an extra bad part in there". Hey you got a bonus fault. It's extra 🤣
@ThePowerofElectricity
@ThePowerofElectricity 2 ай бұрын
You only find these in the old HP stuff where it just comes with 'em. All the newer devices want you to pay a monthly subscription for extra faults
@SantoKhanProject
@SantoKhanProject Жыл бұрын
scrapped a failing Wang 720C about 40 years ago and I still regret it to this day!
@jimmy2drinks
@jimmy2drinks Жыл бұрын
You'll dine with the HP engineers in the Hall of Valhalla Marc.
@kippie80
@kippie80 Жыл бұрын
Nixies are nice. But still LED displays are rare now. Rescued a fluke VM with LED display, it isn't the most accurate but it is my fav. as the display is so easy to read in any light.
@wilianhenriquerosada2774
@wilianhenriquerosada2774 Жыл бұрын
Bulova is an american watch company. The did WW2 soldiers watches and also a moon watch...this bulova lunar watch was used on Apollo 15 by astronaut Dave on a EVA, after he faced a problem with his Omega watch, that was Nasa standart.
@Sardikar
@Sardikar Жыл бұрын
A clean nixie is a happy nixie.
@TeslaTales59
@TeslaTales59 Жыл бұрын
I have several clocks using those models of Nixie tubes. Very nice.
@absurdengineering
@absurdengineering Жыл бұрын
The contemporary instruments may perform better, but this mostly discrete era stuff had a bit of design engineer’s soul embedded into it :) Copying those circuits and making them work on the breadboard is an EE education tour-de-force. Every part had a thought behind it, no application note copypasta.
@vhfgamer
@vhfgamer Жыл бұрын
Over time I've developed a deep appreciation for HP stuff. I have an HP 86b, and the quality in that computer has knocked my socks off. I'm used to Commodore cheapness.
@Geomanb
@Geomanb Жыл бұрын
Bulova was also a watch brand famous for its first electronic/ pre quartz movements.
@acmefixer1
@acmefixer1 Жыл бұрын
The Bulova Accutron I had was a waste of money. I sent it back for repairs twice but it still didn't work.
@tig2996
@tig2996 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Marc....i purchased a 5326A last week and am currently restoring.
@leon545b
@leon545b Жыл бұрын
The construction of this instrument reminds me of my HP9810a calculator. They loved edge connectors - in fact, these appear to be the same pitch and pin count as the ones in my calculator. Also, the beautiful gold plated pcbs with no soldermask... Truly the "golden age" of HP products.
@djmips
@djmips Жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading your scans!
@darrenerickson1288
@darrenerickson1288 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful, beautiful gear!
@JohnStokes-c1o
@JohnStokes-c1o Жыл бұрын
What a lovely little machine that is. 🥰
@fredflickinger643
@fredflickinger643 Жыл бұрын
Bravo Marc! Great method and repair!
@BuckCalabro
@BuckCalabro Жыл бұрын
I have a 5327A which omits the DVM and puts the 550 MHz input (C) on the front. Nice to see a sibling also working!
@624Dudley
@624Dudley Жыл бұрын
Splendid indeed! 👍
@masonedwards7920
@masonedwards7920 Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant piece of machinery
@andymouse
@andymouse Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic result, good save old chap !....cheers.
@jamesbrewer3020
@jamesbrewer3020 Жыл бұрын
Wow Had One of them. Glad to see you save that one.
@ianhanschen
@ianhanschen Жыл бұрын
High quality content every time.
@DavidSmith-zx7wz
@DavidSmith-zx7wz Жыл бұрын
Great Job! Always love the repair videos!! Thanks
@grimreboot
@grimreboot Жыл бұрын
Excellent work, thank you for the upload. :)
@robertperlstein3527
@robertperlstein3527 Жыл бұрын
Hooray! Those were the days of gold plated traces instead of solder mask. Now all it needs is the special HP feet and the tilt bail(s) for the front.
@SuperRicky511
@SuperRicky511 Жыл бұрын
As always, fantastic movie! Thank you for sharing your knowledge Marc!
@hymermobiler
@hymermobiler Жыл бұрын
Well saved young man! Lovely instrument
@guyh3403
@guyh3403 Жыл бұрын
Wow. This was amazing to watch. Your knowledge is from beyond this planet sir!
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I was not expecting that this device would operate up to 670MHz! I thought it would tap out somewhere around 60Mhz if I'd seen it at a hamfest and wasn't familiar with it.
@ydonl
@ydonl Жыл бұрын
Nice work! Thanks for having us along as you think it through. It's heartbreaking to think about what's been scrapped.
@gordonwedman3179
@gordonwedman3179 Жыл бұрын
Pretty amazing considering how old that unit is. The electrolytics in the power supply are still working fine.
@TooManyHobbiesJeremy
@TooManyHobbiesJeremy Жыл бұрын
Nice job on the repairs! It's impressive a vintage instrument can be brought up to spec & still have many original components.
@ilgiusto6885
@ilgiusto6885 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic ! I have this wonderful HP 👋👋 From Italy
@Stuartrusty
@Stuartrusty Жыл бұрын
So good to see this saved from the scrap pile. A perfectly useable piece of kit saved by simple diagnostics and repair. Also good to see lurking in the background a Herbert Terry Anglepoise desk lamp, another favourite of mine.
@ATOMSHAMRADIO
@ATOMSHAMRADIO Жыл бұрын
I love the old nixie tubes
@liljemark1
@liljemark1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, good entertainment for Christmas as I was sick as a dog 😂 Love your troubleshooting work.
@hiteck007
@hiteck007 Жыл бұрын
It's good too see these sort of antique repairs done, It's been decades for me since I done this sort of thing. I got a couple of these things that needs repairs like this. I got a soft spot for these Nixie displays devices, their so Nostalgic. I got a clock made out of them & it looks awesome
@ElectraFlarefire
@ElectraFlarefire Жыл бұрын
Trick I'm not sure I've seen you use on the female side of the edge connectors, but I've found works well is to soak some printer paper(trimmed to size and folded over) with deoxit and work that in and out of the connector a few times. It seems like a pretty safe way to clean the female connectors.
@gorak9000
@gorak9000 Жыл бұрын
That probably is a good way to do it. Printer paper also does a good job of cleaning contacts in relays and similar things too. It's just abrasive enough to cut through the oxide, but not damage the coating.
@jdog987
@jdog987 Жыл бұрын
Wow Marc, you have become very fast at opening these test equipment. Must be all of the practice.
@paulcohen1555
@paulcohen1555 Жыл бұрын
I like very much the "NOT chinese specifications"! So true.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
I love this era of test equipment. Seeing what would otherwise be a 7-segment display actually be glowing neon numerals is always wonderful. The exacting handiwork on these PCBs is lovely too.
@kevinreardon2558
@kevinreardon2558 Жыл бұрын
Snatched from the jaws of death. Thanks for this.
@tekvax01
@tekvax01 Жыл бұрын
I was just reprogramming my eleven-digit nixie tube clock that was built from a pillaged and subsequently damaged 1970s GHz frequency counter.
@iz8dwf
@iz8dwf Жыл бұрын
probably the best way to adjust the internal reference would be displaying the waveform against the reference on the scope and adjust until no drift between the two waveforms. Those bulova oscillators do drift a lot however. I have one of them in a 5328A and it's going places every few months.
@KeritechElectronics
@KeritechElectronics Жыл бұрын
Lovely unit, a joy for ever! Magnificent precision, definitely a high end thing. And the schkematic - so well drawn it explains all the signal flow so nicely. Absolutely loving it. Who could have left solder blots inside? Good thing you spotted it. No soldermask means trouble, but just look at these gold-plated traces. Never saw a scope with marked trigger point (apart from digital scopes). Cool feature. That CZUR went to Rinoa, right? Transistors stopping transisting, oh yeah... had that one on a S1-112A scope/meter made in the USSR. Replaced and the thing works again.
@user-bz3jm9qq7v
@user-bz3jm9qq7v Жыл бұрын
Great job👌👍
@plhebel1
@plhebel1 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding.
@pamdemonia
@pamdemonia Жыл бұрын
Those nixie tubes are great!
@yorgle
@yorgle Жыл бұрын
I think I had one of these, or something similar... just the counter side of it... years ago. I never did anything with it, but ended up giving it away to someone who wanted it. :D
@Kirill_Maker
@Kirill_Maker Жыл бұрын
Nice done, as always :)
@benespection
@benespection Жыл бұрын
I have one of these too, somewhere in storage... I really should go and dig it out :)
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 Жыл бұрын
There’s nothing like stumbling around in a dark, scary lab with only a Nixie tube to light the way. Good thing Marc has the lights on. 😌
@msylvain59
@msylvain59 Жыл бұрын
I got an ex-Nato HP 180 scope from ebay a few years ago, dirt cheap because it was broken... even very broken , with a bad CRT. It ended in pieces, some nice parts to salvage at least.
@mrtnsnp
@mrtnsnp Жыл бұрын
Eventually every instrument will end up in the Apollo setup.
@TheFleetz
@TheFleetz Жыл бұрын
Marc……What an amazing appreciation I have for HP T&M equipment through your passion for the HP brand. Saving HP history one product at a time! 👍
@der.Schtefan
@der.Schtefan Жыл бұрын
Seeing integrated circuits next to Nixie tubes feels so strange.
@UnitSe7en
@UnitSe7en Жыл бұрын
That solder splatter, though! Oof!
@woodhonky3890
@woodhonky3890 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that happened when someone scavenged the two transistors.
@canadianman000
@canadianman000 Жыл бұрын
I have one very similar though it might be an older model. Can accept a function generator in a module on the right but i dont have one. Still works like a charm! And the built in AC fan sounds like a turbine spooling up :)
@sosayweall1952
@sosayweall1952 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough I have one of these myself, well its actually a 5326a. Great little tester! Mine however has an intermittent issue where the display all the sudden displays garbage and gets frozen. Probably related to a power supply, they do have overheating issues from what I have read.
@woodhonky3890
@woodhonky3890 Жыл бұрын
Nixie tubes yay!
@LongnoseRob
@LongnoseRob Жыл бұрын
Very nice repair-vid
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 Жыл бұрын
What a curious theory of operation, doing a voltmeter by voltage to frequency.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins Жыл бұрын
oh these counters are really cool, they really do run at ridiculous frequencies
@idahobob
@idahobob Жыл бұрын
Swap the 2nd digit driver (with the leaking "1" instead of blanking) with 1st digit driver (that never blanks.)
@bfx8185
@bfx8185 Жыл бұрын
More old instruments please :D I'm instruments repairing aficionado :D
@andersvandegevel8355
@andersvandegevel8355 Жыл бұрын
You can see from 10:19 to 10:27, it looks like a couple of the traces have been repaired for that driver IC
@Wayde-VA3NCA
@Wayde-VA3NCA Жыл бұрын
If you swap positions of that drive chip does the fault move with it?
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 Жыл бұрын
❤️
@ErikKaashoek
@ErikKaashoek Жыл бұрын
Just curious. If you tune the XO with 10MHz input, should you go for static 10MHz display or equal time toggling between 10MHz and 9.999999MHz?
@douro20
@douro20 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any which have the plug-in digit modules? They're a bit interesting; I have a few which came out of a Dymec digital voltmeter and I once thought they might be BCD but it turns out to be a bit of a strange format that isn't even ordinary binary or BCD.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc Жыл бұрын
I do. I have a few more Nixie instruments I need to restore.
@RomstarOrion
@RomstarOrion Жыл бұрын
That counter/DVM is a thing of beauty. So happy to watch you bring it back to life. I don't know if I missed it or not, but did you find the problem with the stuck nixie tube? I appeared that you just had to leave it as good enough, but later in the video it doesn't look like it is still showing.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc Жыл бұрын
At least I know what it is, it’s the proprietary HP Nixie driver IC that’s showing a 1 instead of blanking. These are hard to find though. I need to find the courage to get walloped on eBay and order a replacement one.
@RomstarOrion
@RomstarOrion Жыл бұрын
@@CuriousMarc I understand. I also just got nailed on ebay, and I'm in Canada as well so that evenmakes it worse for me. Best of luck in finding the chip.
@MarcoTedaldi
@MarcoTedaldi Жыл бұрын
@@CuriousMarc could you swap that IC into the first digit, because that never blanks asfaras I can see.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc Жыл бұрын
@@MarcoTedaldi That’s a great idea, I had not thought about it.
@ITGuyinaction
@ITGuyinaction Жыл бұрын
👍😁😜 I remember times when Nixie displays were treated as worse... And now Nixie are treated as super cool and... super expensive! Preferences changes...! Well done! Good you gave second life to this device! I like this feeling when I successfully repair sth. P.S. How did you do that having 152K subscribers?
@unlokia
@unlokia Жыл бұрын
The internet is autistic. They get all obsessed and nerds get carried away on the “retro” wave. There just nixies. Get a life.
@SwitchingPower
@SwitchingPower Жыл бұрын
If the right most nixie is always active it maybe an idea to swap the dodgy nixie driver chip with the right most one so the bad blanking does have an impact on the overall display
@PawelKraszewski
@PawelKraszewski Жыл бұрын
"Bulova" oscillator crystal, heh. Like you had Rolex RTC in your laptop :) Plus, you might swap ICs for digit 0 and 1 (if they match), as digit 0 never blanks.
@gordonwelcher9598
@gordonwelcher9598 Жыл бұрын
You must show more details of the repair procedure for the scope. What size of hammer? Copper, steel or rubber?
@thesushifiend
@thesushifiend Жыл бұрын
BTW Marc when are you going to show us your beautiful Chopard watch?
@aaronr.9644
@aaronr.9644 Жыл бұрын
only issue left was the stuck digit, right? I wonder if there is a way to test that driver ic. I imagine there is a similar ic driving the other tubes so maybe just probing the pins and comparing results would verify if the driver ic is to blame? it would be nice if the problem turned out to be something simpler :)
@DaveCurran
@DaveCurran Жыл бұрын
Could you swap the driver chip that does the rightmost digit (which does not get blanked) with the one that has the blanking fault - or is that already a different chip?
@dack42
@dack42 Жыл бұрын
You beat me to it - I was going to suggest the same idea!
@markgreco1962
@markgreco1962 Жыл бұрын
Marc, about how much time do you have into this repair.
@radarmusen
@radarmusen Жыл бұрын
It’s the first time I have seen bulova crystals, it must have been when the tuning fork was superseded by quartz’s.
@68hoffman
@68hoffman Жыл бұрын
kool
@fletcherreder6091
@fletcherreder6091 Жыл бұрын
Is that Fairchild databook available anywhere? I have a load of old Fairchild stuff I'm trying to identify and it isn't going well.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc Жыл бұрын
Here is my scan of it: archive.org/details/fairchild-semiconductor-transistor-and-diode-data-catalog-1970-searchable
@fletcherreder6091
@fletcherreder6091 Жыл бұрын
@@CuriousMarc Thanks!
@stephenwissel7902
@stephenwissel7902 Жыл бұрын
Marc, is it your goal in life to own every piece of HP branded equipment?
@ZXGuesser
@ZXGuesser Жыл бұрын
Every piece of equipment seems excessive... just (at least) one of each! 😄
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 Жыл бұрын
360p assemble. I think I'll wait so I can see the full nixie glory. Man, I also need to make a habit of going to more ham fests!
@thesushifiend
@thesushifiend Жыл бұрын
1080p working for me...
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 Жыл бұрын
@@thesushifiend Thanks, I see it now!
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