Hp Omen gaming laptop fans not spinning - Let's learn a dodgy shortcut :D

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@Hotkife
@Hotkife 6 ай бұрын
Love it! "Proper calibrated wire" is such a useful piece of hardware lol
@beer_goggler
@beer_goggler 6 ай бұрын
Meanwhile some mosfet on the other side of the board is burning its way out of the keyboard.
@NBMSCH
@NBMSCH 6 ай бұрын
Let me hire the wire.. the wire was hired and the mosfet was fired and fans are happy and dance 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@retrocomputinggrotto
@retrocomputinggrotto 6 ай бұрын
A well explained video as always! I've just ordered a reel of proper calibrated fuses, it's 86m long so hope I have enough!!
@winlose3073
@winlose3073 6 ай бұрын
if Sorin says it's working I have no reason to doubt his integrity he is an honest man. But sometimes you know as we are learning we it's better to witness the result. anyways great job Sorin as always.👌
@g4z-kb7ct
@g4z-kb7ct 6 ай бұрын
Had the same fault in my Toshiba Tecra A8 laptop and did similar mod, wired fan to 5V about 10 years ago. Everything is still working :-D
@Timpano_Francesco_Repairs
@Timpano_Francesco_Repairs 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Sorin again good Job
@wisher21uk
@wisher21uk 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant Sorin thanks 😊
@niczam461
@niczam461 6 ай бұрын
Proper nice repair :)
@computersrepaircotesaint-l7407
@computersrepaircotesaint-l7407 6 ай бұрын
another stunning video
@rfr653
@rfr653 6 ай бұрын
Good job mate 👍
@8500gtNvidia
@8500gtNvidia 6 ай бұрын
Thx master for this videos
@handleitnow
@handleitnow 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic, thanks you!
@MattyEngland
@MattyEngland 6 ай бұрын
Bring on our Daily Dodginess! 😂
@DumahBrazorf
@DumahBrazorf 6 ай бұрын
We need the t-shirts with intel logo style "dodgy inside", and not forget the ones with "no capacitor, no shorted capacitor" and "proper calibrated fuse"
@KossiNOUMAGNO
@KossiNOUMAGNO 6 ай бұрын
Good job
@SangFix
@SangFix 6 ай бұрын
There are many ways to solve the problem. quickly and also repaired other customers. I agree with the video above. But repairing zin takes time. It's up to the customer to fix it. The result is that the machine can run. ❤
@michaelcabilan745
@michaelcabilan745 4 ай бұрын
Master salute❤
@cfamozcomputermetropolis7191
@cfamozcomputermetropolis7191 6 ай бұрын
Awesome😊
@Electronics_Repair_NZ
@Electronics_Repair_NZ 6 ай бұрын
thankyou
@andrewwturner
@andrewwturner 6 ай бұрын
Personally i would have taken on the challenge to track down the faulty component. That said, i have to respect the repair and i imagine the customer was happy to not pay for a longer job. Seeing a repair like this is probably more educational than watching Sorin play "hunt the mosfet" and repairing it 'properly'.
@bustenarule
@bustenarule 5 ай бұрын
More vidéos... Repairs.... And good job
@kenken5599
@kenken5599 6 ай бұрын
Yes mr.sorins way allday
@jinderpoohla
@jinderpoohla 6 ай бұрын
Sir the problem in fan section in the smd transistor that provides 5 volt dc for Fans I think that transistor is weak or properly not working so voltages drop in 3 volt am watching your all video sir And Im learnt many things from your videos 👌
@bilalgidici5697
@bilalgidici5697 6 ай бұрын
we have a nice laptop again 😁😁😁
@ztechrepairs
@ztechrepairs 6 ай бұрын
Im waiting for calibrated fuse merch lol
@widyahong
@widyahong 6 ай бұрын
I heard you several times said fan have clock and data pin but i think its just tachometer pin from hall effect sensor and pwm pin to control speed
@morphingsomething5203
@morphingsomething5203 6 ай бұрын
Well, effect sensor = data for me and pwm maybe the "clock signal" . :)
@widyahong
@widyahong 6 ай бұрын
@@morphingsomething5203 we normally meet data and clock with i2c serial protocol sda scl, just search 4 pin fan pinout information on internet, glad if you see sda scl instead tacho and pwm.
@user-he8kk6lq7p
@user-he8kk6lq7p 6 ай бұрын
WoOoOoOoW love it very nice 👍👍👍❤❤❤
@jomzllaneta3086
@jomzllaneta3086 6 ай бұрын
👍 nice
@lucataszarek8782
@lucataszarek8782 6 ай бұрын
Hello🤝good job 👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👋👋👋👋
@undeaddave
@undeaddave 6 ай бұрын
IC uc3 is the thermal sencer
@AT_Sr
@AT_Sr 6 ай бұрын
Movie cameras and lights has ability to turning off their fans for preventing noise when recording sound, probably the same for this laptop. Other than loosing turning off fans from BIOS, everything will work perfectly, he took a 5V from the point where is no voltage when laptop is off so fans will not draw power at laptop off. Fans control from temperature will not fill this change.
@mnemonicrulez
@mnemonicrulez 6 ай бұрын
Proper calibrated fuse 😂
@Nerfe8218
@Nerfe8218 6 ай бұрын
Good afternoon Can you tell me what the model of your HTI thermal camera is and where I can get it?
@weerobot
@weerobot 6 ай бұрын
Nice Laptop..
@silver60618
@silver60618 6 ай бұрын
WE HAVE PICTURE!
@user-uk7nd4ov4o
@user-uk7nd4ov4o 5 ай бұрын
Hi. how can we access Members-only videos?
@user-no3qd1sj6t
@user-no3qd1sj6t 6 ай бұрын
Pls, I have this laptop, where can i buy the screws, any help, thank you.
@Corleone007
@Corleone007 5 ай бұрын
HP Omen laptops do not have options of FAN switching off. Not always ON, means the bios will run FANs when needed. When system is quite loaded then they spin all the time, but on the battery when you do simple things , like watching YT movie in the bed, with special pad underneath (to not block air flow) then the laptop is silent. This is why FAN not always ON is good option. Because sometimes you don't want to hear noises from laptop. This is why bypassing it is not good, or it should be consulted with the client if that matters for him. Of course such solution is cheaper
@ixin645
@ixin645 5 ай бұрын
Does this affect the sleep/hybernation?
@E-M-Collections
@E-M-Collections Ай бұрын
I have an hp Omen 15 gaming laptop, and it gets very hot even if I am not playing games on it or running powerful software and also drains battery to fast
@ArkRockDrm
@ArkRockDrm 6 ай бұрын
"FAN"- tastic!
@g4z-kb7ct
@g4z-kb7ct 6 ай бұрын
Might be possible to find the actual bad part. With the 5V connected to the fans use thermal camera to find a small hot part. Surprised that was not tried.
@MatiasDelera
@MatiasDelera 5 ай бұрын
he say, no replace parts.
@SidneyCritic
@SidneyCritic 6 ай бұрын
Don't you put a brass brush on the DMM probe and brush the MB to find the MOSFET - lol -.
@iskander711
@iskander711 5 ай бұрын
if the fans spinning fast when you heated the cooler its mean the control chip fan it's actually in the fans itself, right?
@dzinchaM
@dzinchaM 6 ай бұрын
Dodge or don't dodge it is a question for yourself, what is important is diagnostics and your train of thought, check the error and replace or not replace the part on the motherboard 👍
@user-jw7mk6pc2i
@user-jw7mk6pc2i 6 ай бұрын
Спасибо, Сорин! Понимаю, что нужно зарабатывать деньги, но неужели личного любопытства (чем управляется плюс) у вас нет? И опыта в схемотехнике много не бывает, пригодиться.. А так метод ремонта идеальный, спасибо за советы
@blackartista
@blackartista 6 ай бұрын
Dodge Community Watching Carefully
@AzuaraRuiz-md1bi
@AzuaraRuiz-md1bi 6 ай бұрын
@blackartista: lol
@yoshy2628
@yoshy2628 6 ай бұрын
I have similar laptop, also HP Omen, with 2080 Super, 32GB DDR4 and SSD instead of classic HDD
@jimdavis6833
@jimdavis6833 6 ай бұрын
This one has two SSD slots plus a HDD. Sorin removed the SSD to troubleshoot. Did you not notice?
@BootedTech
@BootedTech 6 ай бұрын
My only issue with this proper calibrated wire, it is now connected to the output of the regulator that supplies 5v to the fans which is obviously faulty and was supplying 3v instead of 5, so the regulator is faulty and should have been removed.
@davidlguerr
@davidlguerr 6 ай бұрын
That is my concern as well. But even if the regulator fails completely, you always have the 5V supplied by the wire.
@MykolaInc
@MykolaInc 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, the faulty part should be removed at least, as it tends to get hot and possibly cause more damage in the future (shorted main power rail, PCB burn e.t.c).
@trilhosdoalgarvebtt
@trilhosdoalgarvebtt 6 ай бұрын
Could it be a software issue!? did you try to update the bios? in our days laptop faults are not allways hardware 😁
@markkay8117
@markkay8117 6 ай бұрын
I don't see actually how a corrupt bios can result in this particular fault, but most likely its a hardware issue.
@aocaldas
@aocaldas 6 ай бұрын
Wondering if it was only a BIOS problem that could be fixed with a BIOS upgrade.🤔
@drmoose7233
@drmoose7233 6 ай бұрын
my thoughts exactly... what if he cleared the CMOS ... would that have fixed the problem
@Dohcom1
@Dohcom1 6 ай бұрын
No fan, Hot cooler, Cool fix, Fast fan! Excellent speed, Good 👽!, lol
@sherlockholmes1121
@sherlockholmes1121 6 ай бұрын
It is an Omen !
@seraph741
@seraph741 6 ай бұрын
So is anything affected by this workaround? Any downside?
@gorjy9610
@gorjy9610 6 ай бұрын
fan will always work, something they usually do anyway with that CPU :)
@aaa000777
@aaa000777 6 ай бұрын
FAN-tastic
@firzen0000
@firzen0000 6 ай бұрын
This is a design improvement. HP should take notes.
@Skarz289
@Skarz289 6 ай бұрын
Sorin the wire must be calibrated otherwise it will comeback on warranty
@MrReeceyburger123
@MrReeceyburger123 6 ай бұрын
It’s calibrated when he touches it, god you should know this by now
@preytec
@preytec 6 ай бұрын
If im going to watch adds. Can i pick not to watch the tampax adds?
@davidlguerr
@davidlguerr 6 ай бұрын
Complaint to KZfaq.
@safikhadid4406
@safikhadid4406 6 ай бұрын
fan connectors has 3,1 v ,you add 5v , do fans work 8 volt ?
@davidlguerr
@davidlguerr 6 ай бұрын
No. It does not work like that. It will work with the highest voltage, which is 5V and what is added are the amps. Example: if the original power source has a maximum of 100mA, and the power source added by Sorin has a maximum of 300mA, in total it can supply 300mA@5V.
@Swenser
@Swenser 6 ай бұрын
C u later for your proper calibrated coffee time.
@haliimaaxmed
@haliimaaxmed 6 ай бұрын
what happened to sorin guys we do not see him 3 days
@vinnyc7613
@vinnyc7613 6 ай бұрын
if fans are already receiving 3.3v adding another 5v make the fans getting a total of 8.3v?
@humamalrawi1276
@humamalrawi1276 6 ай бұрын
Dear, this is a parallel connection, the voltages do not add together
@user-kr8tp3ko8z
@user-kr8tp3ko8z 6 ай бұрын
No the power supplies aren't connected serial, they are connected parallel, so only the 5 Volts matter
@1t729
@1t729 6 ай бұрын
Nope , consider this 3,3 V is residual from a faulty mosfet so internal resistance from it is higher than 5V power supply which should be much lower. Maybe voltage will increase a little bit or worst will decrease ... In that last case it should creating some problems ...But Sorin tested and fans get 20 mA so not a problem
@user-iv4js9fw2e
@user-iv4js9fw2e 6 ай бұрын
Shortage of voltage is key cause for error messages
@user-iv4js9fw2e
@user-iv4js9fw2e 6 ай бұрын
It is necessary to know the right amount of voltage
@rkirilkin
@rkirilkin 6 ай бұрын
my English is average, but I understand you clearly! Proper calibrated Like Subscribe is coming ))
@onetimelifebigcamera1607
@onetimelifebigcamera1607 6 ай бұрын
1st ❤❤❤❤❤ I'm very happy let's check to gather
@user-iv4js9fw2e
@user-iv4js9fw2e 6 ай бұрын
So, absence of voltages causes errors
@gorjy9610
@gorjy9610 6 ай бұрын
absence of rpm data (caused by fan not spinning because of too low voltage provided)
@davidlguerr
@davidlguerr 6 ай бұрын
There is voltage, but not the correct one. As the fan is not getting the nominal voltage, it will not spin, therefore the computer reads no RPM through the data wire, and displays error. The same error will happen if the fan's blades get stuck.
@JordynBaby63
@JordynBaby63 6 ай бұрын
For these laptops where you need more current, can’t you just get a second power supply in parallel 😃
@yoshy2628
@yoshy2628 6 ай бұрын
My HP Omen got 330W power supply. Only one.
@gorjy9610
@gorjy9610 6 ай бұрын
It's not about power but laptop didn't want to turn on without original charger (third, sense pin)
@orange11squares
@orange11squares 6 ай бұрын
@@yoshy2628 you need an entire power plant just to provide power to your laptop.:)))
@nasul9
@nasul9 6 ай бұрын
Something normal for HP not to work fan
@oilybrakes
@oilybrakes 6 ай бұрын
Yes, that works. But if I were to ever open the laptop to upgrade the RAM or change the battery and would see a proper calibrated wire in there instead of a clean fix, I'd be mad as a customer. Just saying.
@unvox7127
@unvox7127 6 ай бұрын
nah fam, u can't be mad with cheap and quick repair that do the job
@SangFix
@SangFix 6 ай бұрын
If you're too picky, buy a new device😂
@jozsiolah1435
@jozsiolah1435 6 ай бұрын
I turned on the 3rd fan speed on an old Acer laptop in Balanced mode. The new fan speed is quiet, and replaces the loud fan speed. The trick is, to choose a possible hibernation % that is usually 8% with a new battery. Later, it can go down to 1%. That is useless in real life, but secret functions turn on using the 1% hibernation.
@michaelgay562
@michaelgay562 6 ай бұрын
fans turned off
@NnowhaHomaluv-vw9qc
@NnowhaHomaluv-vw9qc 6 ай бұрын
Why is there a WARNING before the words dodgy repair (dodgy repairs are much better than a proper one I mean like the manufacturer) so there's no need to write a warning sign
@hoiheyhoi5343
@hoiheyhoi5343 5 ай бұрын
Wow 2 m.2 and have put a harddrive in a gaming laptop😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 6 ай бұрын
3:53 is this a tricky question? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@RedDefender77
@RedDefender77 6 ай бұрын
dodgy
@martinharmath1566
@martinharmath1566 6 ай бұрын
pretty dodgy heheheee
@grzegorzw5042
@grzegorzw5042 6 ай бұрын
Sorin, I really like your movies, but please kindly consider checking the schematics. In this case there is a broken element wchich probably could burn in case adding voltage from opposite site. I know you shown 0 Amps taken but something is faulty there. You can always bypass any voltages, but to be honest it seems that you even didn't like to take out the bord out, because it will take your 5 minutes of life. It's not the way like it should be done.
@ElMariachi1337
@ElMariachi1337 6 ай бұрын
He was looking for a chip, which I assume he knows from experience was causing this fault. These are probably one of those special chips which can hardly be bought for replacement unlike the regular mosfets/coils or standard power chips which are used on a more common base and therefore a lot easier to get as a spare part. So even if he found the faulty chip he could most likely not have it replaced since all the big laptop pruducers are protecting their market/products by not sharing whatever components they are using with the rest of the world. The only other solution would have been to send it to a HP repair centre, but they don't do this kind of component level repairs, they just swap out your motherboard for a big chunk of money.
@grzegorzw5042
@grzegorzw5042 6 ай бұрын
@@ElMariachi1337 Maybe he was joking, but he said he searched for one minute only on one side of the bord. There can be some resistor, or other thinigi between KBC which probably generates this signal. I believe he could easily get the schematic or even boardview, make checking, and repair it correctly or at least remove faulty element that causes voltage drop.
@davidlguerr
@davidlguerr 6 ай бұрын
Clearly you do not understand that by adding another voltage in parallel will not be the sum of both voltages, but rather the highest one. So "the broken element" will be at the same voltage.
@grzegorzw5042
@grzegorzw5042 6 ай бұрын
@@davidlguerr Clearly you don't understand that this way you are doing contiunuse short circuite test, just like using external current source.
@davidlguerr
@davidlguerr 6 ай бұрын
@@grzegorzw5042No, because that track is not connected directly to ground...
@daaraade5092
@daaraade5092 6 ай бұрын
A virus in the BIOS file caused by a game... Entering Windows from Safe Mode and deleting a game will turn on the computer.
@danmorogan9517
@danmorogan9517 6 ай бұрын
Ca toti romani sirma si patentul 😉
@chrisprobert6
@chrisprobert6 6 ай бұрын
Ha no such thing as a "dodgy" shortcut
@FlavioCasimiro.dancer1983
@FlavioCasimiro.dancer1983 6 ай бұрын
First
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 6 ай бұрын
so, basically, the 5v track for fans is not switched properly or is partially shorted. you said that the fans will not stop anymore. false. the fans are digitally controlled! if PWM signal is zero, then, they will not spin! i find this job very dodgy! instead of searching for the real problem. remember: you have a thermal camera! is just my opinion! 👍
@Drottninggatan2017
@Drottninggatan2017 6 ай бұрын
Zorin made a difference between PWM and "digitally controlled". I don't know how digitally controlled works. Is there a controller on the fan? If it is PWM then a controller is modulating the pulses, and obviously we can not feed that with 5V. Strange that it was 3V if it should be 5V. But the fix worked, didn't it?
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 6 ай бұрын
@@Drottninggatan2017 if is controlled with PWM or with clock and data, it doesn't matter. probably the EC chip does this. but is just a signal from EC chip. if the fan doesn't have power(5Volt), is not working. also, if it has power but no PWM or clock and data, is also not working. he should took the board out and search where the tracks are going! most likely would found the problem. but, he takes shortcuts.....
@grzegorzw5042
@grzegorzw5042 6 ай бұрын
@@adaniel69 You are right. Probably there is some faulty element that causes voltage drop to 3V..5V is taken probably directly from main 5V so there is no current limitation. I think in some time something will be burned there.
@adaniel69
@adaniel69 6 ай бұрын
@@grzegorzw5042 exactly! Maybe liquid damage on the other side of the board....
@Todestelzer
@Todestelzer 6 ай бұрын
Yeah he should have taken out the board and inspected the backside visually at least.
@E-M-Collections
@E-M-Collections Ай бұрын
I have an hp Omen 15 gaming laptop, and it gets very hot even if I am not playing games on it or running powerful software and also drains battery to fast
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