To be fair about the Ragdolls part, I feel it was done this way to make sure defibrillators work properly

i like left 4 dead 2 more but i can see why people like the first one more. I liked how you could see your legs and, i prefer the entire style of l4d1 on how its a dark horror zombie movie kind of thing.

L4D: Realistic, Intense, Scary L4D2: More Fun, Anxiety increaser

The pump-action shotgun in the first game had two different animations for partial reloads and full reloads. It's also interesting to note that the survivors in L4D1 also reload the semi-automatic shotgun in a way that always keeps their finger near the trigger and ready to fire.

I believe the hanging thing can be avoided by holding jump when going off a surface, and if I had to guess they removed ragdoll physics for resurrection. Probably to avoid complications.

The reason ragdolls aren't in l4d2 it is stated in the dev commentary the ragdolls caused too many performance issues they slowed the game down too much. EDIT: Why you can't see your legs is because l4d2 uses viewmodels while l4d1 actually uses your world model as your first person model.

While I prefer the ragdolls, there's something so satisfying and iconic about the animation. I mean, I can't imagine Ellis being thrown off of a building and sliding across the ground, slightly bouncing his legs due to the impact.

Another thing in L4D1 is the shoving animation when you have 2 pistols. Sometimes, the characters can shove with their left arm while in L4D2 they can only shove with their right arm. Just another really cool detail that I wish they could've kept it in the second game.

L4D2 has the vast majority of L4D1 content in it but details like seeing your legs or other unnoticed features like animations or bots behavior is what makes L4D1 somewhat special.

The punching in l4d2 is fixed as infected to prevent trolls knocking you off a cliff as a hunter or a smoker waiting on a ledge.

For some reason the terrified screams Francis makes when he’s downed is really heart wrenching for me. He just sounds so scared and alone. That is truly the sound of a scared man. No swearing, no yelling, just fear

Part 1 had a tougher and darker vibe, the Tank was something you would fear in part 1

The game is 13 years old and I'm still playing it everyday

I absolutely agree with the last one, the atmosphere. When I play L4D2 maps, I can chill cause its mostly daytime and I can see clearly the surroundings, making it easy to spot the commons and special infecteds. On L4D1, it gave us the maximum chacne to feel the creeps cause its night and its harder to see the infected, specially when you are in a room and the only light you are using are your flashlight, that can make me go panic mode. However, i still love L4D2 for giving us variety.

Things that are improvements in my eyes is leaving the safe room when someone is connecting and no infected friendly knockback most of the other stuff is fairly minor differences

Honestly I think the stories happening at random times of day in L4D2 really helps you feel like the Green Flu is a problem that requires constant attention no matter what time of day. The survivors aren’t always going to be safe in the daytime. But i can admit that that takes away from the overall “horror” aspect of the game. Honestly though, maybe since I’m playing with friends. Outside of like Hunter and Charger jump scares the game in general isn’t really scary? Maybe that’s just me and my decade of playing talking

There are actually survivor ragdolls on L4D2 vanilla, if a survivor grabs from a edge and falls it can't be revived with the defibrillator and so it does a ragdoll

For hanging in L4D2, u can bypass it by holding jump, still kind of ridiculous how big the safety hitbox is, and makes custom maps that require platforming hell.

here i come with explanation to some of these 2:26-defibrelator work propertly 5:33- too much team killing

3:44 that part kills me ever time. "Dammit i-" dead, lol.

I like left 4 dead 2 more than 1 because of the less grating gun sounds, more content in nearly every way, more variety with item spawns, and the less unfair tanks. If I were to bring one thing from l4d1 into l4d2 it'd be the pistol design because it looks way cooler, but I can see why they changed them because from a distance they look exactly like the magnum

L4D2’s worst mistake was changing the pistol models

Атмосфера ужаса в 1 части конечно шикарная и я её люблю🖤, но 2 часть сделана именно для веселья и бодрого коопа, в этом плане их нельзя сравнивать 💁‍♂️

One thing I really love about the first game is just how dumb the AI can be and how funny it is watching them run around in every direction they're NOT facing

I always wondered why Valve bothered to add legs on PC version of L4D1. I think it's the only game and port from Valve where the player can see them.

Как же мне нравилась перезарядка дробовика в 1 части. Либо следишь за патронами и моментально стреляешь после перезарядки, либо доводишь до 0 патронов и долго перезаряжаешь (анимация в конце дольше и ты не можешь зразу же выстрелить)

The part where bill drowns is very unrealistic on the 1st game, when someone drowns, thier corpse doesnt float right after they die/drowned, it actually stays in the water for hours/days, so props to l4d2

0:12 Louis: YAY I HAVE LEGS!!! Other Louis: HEY MAN THATS NOT COOL!!! 😡😡😡 0:32

Left 4 Dead 1 - рассматривался как хоррор, а left 4 dead - как зомби боевик.Этим они тоже отличаются.

Ну, вообще насчёт физики рагдолла, при падении во второй лефте создаётся такая анимация из-за того что во второй части есть дефиб, а в первой его нету, поэтому смерть в первой лефте рагдольная.

I realized in l4d1 tank is the only special infected you can't see his legs or even his arms when he standing or moving,you still see his arms when attacking (lack animation attack incapacitated survivor) but not when you looking down.

I loved the guns sound better and one and also how your weapons wobble as if you’re actually walking with them unlike the stiff way in 2

В L4D1 разные анимации перезарядки есть только у дробовиков, а в L4D2 только у пистолетов. Плюс во второй части у охотничьей снайперки из-за бага может появиться анимация перезарядки с затвором, которая была вырезана в первой.

I'll probably link this video to the TLS devs, because the hanging trigger and the saferoom door lock should all be added to L4D2. We can live without the others (especially without the infected punching, that's kinda dumb in my opinion), but I feel these things are pretty important overall. I also like the music cues in versus, but that would be a too big buff for the survivors, considering they're already overpowered in versus if played properly, it would also make sneaky hunter attacks impossible if the player listens to the cue.

yes, but l4d2 includes all characters and campaigns of l4d1 and a new game for the same price as l4d1, also features a better hud, more infected, more weapons and new mechanics

L4D1: Survival horror game as it intend shall be. L4D2: *KILLING ZOMBIES IS SO MUCH FUN!!!*

L4D1 was more polished. L4D2 looks like it was rushed in development to release it asap. But i bought it in the day it released (on disk btw) and i remember at the time it was one of the most anticipated games in 2009.

7:23 мелодии особых заражённых (bacteria sounds), слишком сильно их палят, за охотника можно стоять не издавая и звука, но выжившие будут знать о тебе, даже если ты стоишь, да и в принципе, они сильно триггерят команду, и куда круче когда ты помнишь как звучат сами заражённые, а не мотив в их мелодии.

Скорее всего нашёт регдолов, из-за того что в 1 части не было дефибрилятора были регдолы, а в 2 части он есть, поэтому что-бы регдол не багался и т.д., его убрали. Но хорошо что есть такая кнопка как: "Мастерская"

0:31 luis: cool, looks like counter-strike луис: круто, прямо как в контр-страйке

3:08 Louis: hey everyone let's sleep in the car Everyone: ok

The legs thing was such a big deal for me. I was so sad to see it's absence in L4D2.

An interesting thing is that the survivors get the leg in the shape of a 4 in l4d2 when they die

7:22 That zombie entrance just looks silly lmao, feels like a cartoon villain coming right up at a TV show

I still wish they added viewmodel LEGS in L4D2. I think they removed it for more FPS value, but still the immersion was so cool.

I do agree with some things but Left 4 Dead 2 will remain an awesome part of my childhood. I don't like how some campaigns are during the day because it takes away from the dark atmosphere. HOWEVER, you could say that "Left 4 Dead 1 taught us fear while Left 4 Dead 2 taught us to fight back." I guess that contributes to atmosphere.

You can avoid hanging in L4D2 by holding the space after initial jump.

Nothing feels better than Hs too videos after school

You do realize bots only move on their own in the first game when there are meds, pills or guns nearby right?

L4D2 is built like that for more competitive gameplay. You should make part 2 "why L4D2 is better than L4D"

“Hey man, want to play Left 4 Dead 2 with its vastly more packed with content game and refined original maps?” “Nah man, Left 4 Dead 1 has *checks notes* rag doll animations, 2 shotgun animations(very important), and the ability to grief your infected teammates by pushing them around!”

4:04 I'm pretty sure bodies first sink and then float after 3 days.

l4D1 teaches us fear, L4D2 teaches us how to fight.

Didn’t even watch the video yet but I agree full-heartedly.

2:41 Bill just preformed non existence

2:25 in l4d2 the defib would be useless cause the body could fall into some map holes that is not reachable for others to revive you. but i think if valve wanted to add the physics with ragdolls they prob could make it possible. also i do think if there was a worksop for l4d1 it would still be popular today i mean thats my opinion but anyway

05:25 this happened in "campaign" too, I remember when with my old slowly PC and (rarely) enter after somebody open the door

also the hunter has various animations when he’s jumping from wall to wall and can even jump at survivors LEGS first. not a lot of people know about this.

If you have a potato PC or specs, joining in the middle of the game or after it started minutes ago will take you to the You Are Dead screen as usual for like 20 secs as special infected, giving a disadvantage of time to your entire infected team. #5 or at 4:49 is a good example for it.

You can ragdoll in vanilla left 4 dead 2. It's very spefic but you need to slip off a ledge and grab on to it, you need to make sure zombies don't hit you and that no one helps you up. when your hp finally goes all the way down you will regain control of your character while falling off, only then your dead body will be a ragdoll .

The only thing that i miss in l4d1 is Hunter Movement & Animation which is looks more cool.

Most of the differences are small things that don't usually effect the gameplay at all. The bots not leading the point in versus is a good thing that's not in l4d2 because I've had a bot in l4d1 run in and die. It's not exactly something that makes them better, just makes them careless. And when it comes to mods L4D2 is going through a new era of script moding that changes AI behavior allowing them to do many things only players can do. We're able to make our own animations now. However that's only on PC and not console. And the grabbing ledges issue in 2 can be solved by simply holding the jump button. But yea that still gets annoying.

I agree with these problems, but most of them can be restored or enhanced via mods call thanks to the awesome STEAM community behind this game 🤙

I remember the days in L4D1 before they patched it where you could infinitely melee by using a combo. Then they added that stamina cap so you could only melee push every so often. Also L4D1 I will always love more because you can play with the bots solo and feel like it’s a complete game. L4D2 has more content and everything but it never felt like the same game I wanted. It felt goofy and more joking. I wanted the L4D1 I saw from the beta footage.

4:10 you can completely negate this by holding space bar when you jump sidenote: this even works for just walking off edges, you'll obv have to jump first beforehand but you can still hold space and just hold W off an edge

I do agree/disagree on some of the stuff in the video. But I believe this video should be called "Why Left 4 Dead 1 is better than Left 4 Dead 2 at details". Here's my responses to things I disagree with: 2:26 Ragdoll physics were removed to make it easier for you to use a defibrillator, I know about the mod that lets you use the defib on ragdolls, but I can still imagine that it's possible to grief, for instance, what if a player shoots the ragdoll in a pit or in an unreachable spot? They also shouldn't float in water because if the survivors can't float, why would the dead body float? 5:33 This was likely removed so it isn't as easy to grief. 7:23 Infected spawn music likely made it way too predictable for the survivors and it would make it harder for the infected to plan attacks. 7:45 The atmosphere changed deliberately. L4D1 has more of a darker atmosphere while L4D2 has a more atmosphere that encourages the survivors to be more badass. It's not to say L4D2 always has the goofy atmosphere because it can definitely be more dark.

7:30 в l4d2 вроде настройки есть, я слышал и в l4d2 эти звуки. Их нужно отключать для некоторых серверов.

bruh the special infected jingles still work in l4d2. what are you talking about? also im surprised you didnt use "no jockeys" as a reason

8:25 life of a discord mod

I love L4D1 for its horror environment and i love L4D2 for its characters. Both games are great

It's like that one part of Terminator during the police station scene where you could see through his eyes when he lifted the gun, and the camera was clearly not up to his eyes.

Surprised infinite pushes didn’t make the list

Я бы сказал, что для меня решающее преимущество 1 l4d над 2 в плотной и темной атмосфере, но не совсем так. Атмосфера игры была крепко связана с концепциями, заложенными в неё. Ну вы помните "кооперативное выживание" и пр. Первая часть - это идейно цельный проект, где механики связаны с дизайном, с поведением. Вторая сделана на основе первой.. но цельная ли она? БТВ, пункт с поведением аи-тиммейтов тоже весомый для меня. В первой части чувствовалось, что "нам нужно пройти". Была в этом ощущении и интрига, и мотив выживания. Во второй части просто прешься через карты и если приглушить развлечение, получаемое в процессе, то может стать неудобно от идиотии.

Лефта первая в моем сердечке❤️, шикарная игра) Спасибо за такие фишки, которых не застать во 2 лефте👍

For the 3rd one, is there a way for the ragdoll physics to have a ragdoll with a lot of weight to it so it barely moves but can still possess a lifeless feature?

2:30 hpmf (crack)

L4D навсегда останется в моем пожилом сердечке😥

Without L4D2 there would be no One Man Cheeseburger Apocalypse

I haven’t played the second one in a long time and that was the case for both of them, but I’m able to play the first one now. The first one has always been my favourite

знаешь, наверное ты единственный кто форсит эту игру и продвигает её в массы. спасибо тебе. лефта это моя любимая франшиза

L4d2 bots are better because they stick closer to you

L4D1 was created at a time when Valve was drunk with Source's power of physics. L4D2 was created at a time when Valve cared more about competitivity.

I guess the sounds and atmosphere was improved in later updates. The particular sound for each special infected and creepy atmosphere is there now after he last stand update.

The music for that part for the atmosphere is the parade ride moving

0:40 huh I did not know about that.

Still lovin the l4d/l4d2 content😳

4:43 Yaşlanmışsın Bill dayım

“DAMMI-“ Famous last words of Bill before drowning

I believe we are already aware of this. L4D1 is unquestionably a masterpiece, and L4D2 can be a bit of a rush, but thanks to modders, things are made feasible and the game is made even more pleasant.

I'm love left 4 dead 1 and 2

8:09 в защиту L4D2 можно сказать, что в нём есть и действительно крутые и атмосферные моменты, например, последняя глава "Мрачного Карнавала" или 2-я глава "Ужасного Ливня".

When i play l4d1, i don't see my own legs, why is that happen?

Физику с телами во второй части убрали наверное потому что добавили дефебрилятор, и чтобы не приходилось гонятся за телами дабы оживить союзников, но все равно печально.

Атмосферу первой и второй лефты можно легко объяснить. В первой лефте персонажей и вообщем ситуацию объясняют как - отчаяние, безвыходность и естественно хоррор. Вторая часть - надежда, шансы на спасения, тут тоже есть хоррор но разрабы по пытались во второй части сделать акцент на то, что у персонажей есть шансы на выживание. В первой части музыка в игре такая, по типу очень вялая и грустная, устрашающе и.т.д. Во второй части музыка такая же, но там больше рокк и музыка ассоциируется с весельем, лор игры так и даёт понять что у выживших во второй части все хорошо, они справятся, они вместе держутся! По типу того, во время как в первой мы видем полную отчаение и очень нагнетающий саунд и ситуацию, все это соопровождается пугающими саундами.

Left 4 dead 1 you had infinite shoving where you will never get tired of spamming shoving at zombies. Left 4 dead 2 had Shoving cap limit to keep the game balance. The more frequently you shove a weapon, the longer your stamina shove to take refill.

for seeing your legs and ragdoll physics can you get them ported to l4d2 or no?

Yes! yes! yes ! LEFT 4 DEAD Video Thanks HS TOP 🖤 There is something you missed! left 4 dead 1 Contains an animation of the hunter holding on to the wall with his hands clinging to the wall. However, the same cannot be said for left 4 dead 2.

Can’t like half of these things hinges he remade with mods in l4d2? I am pretty sure I seen a survivor leg script already

honestly i think athmosphere is the most hiting part, and i really wanna know, is there any mods that gives this athmosphere to l4d2?

Kinda wish that in number 3 you included a clip of a survivor on their last incap (black and white pov) getting punched by a tank xD