they can wear glases in vr. companies like amvr glasses protectors exiust. not a great solution (I bought prescription for myself). but it does allow them to try using glasses

@@legendp2011 Unless their frames are too large to fit inside the headset, like in my case. Then you HAVE to buy prescription lenses.

Agreed. My eyes change yearly but I don’t want to buy new lens every year or 2

Nice thought, but useless to myself and many others with astigmatism. I'd rather see competitively cheap prescription lenses. I got zenni lenses and printed adapters for about $40 total.

@@legendp2011 You shouldn't even if you can. Index was marketed as being 'glasses friendly' but within a few months I had scratches on my lenses. Fortunately valve seemed to be aware that wearing glasses with an index is a bad idea as they offered to replace the whole hmd without me even asking. Then I bought prescription inserts for myself, but my dad can't use my hmd.

So would you suggest to get it the last Headset I had wast the quest 2 and I sold it after 2 weeks but I am looking for a new headset so maybe this one? My only worry is the chipset which is now getting a bit old

@@philstone7763 What are you looking to do with your headset? Do you travel? Are you a gamer?

Hello Mah! The depth sensor is functional and allows for more accurate positioning. You may find the complete specifications of the VIVE XR ELITE here: www.vive.com/us/product/vive-xr-elite/specs/. For add-ons, please scroll down to the bottom of this page to see compatible accessories: www.vive.com/us/product/vive-xr-elite/overview/. You may also want to look into the VIVE Battery Cradle for XR Series as this provides up to 2 hours of continuous power and adjustable comfort.

@@HTCVive Thank You for your reply. I almost had moved to order another platform. Seeing your response here might help me change my decision. Add-ons remain problematic on-site. Doesn’t show if the case will have Vive and charger included or should i consider 3rd party options for carry on case. No additional pics or video clips in action. Also, cradle details like weight on site or what are charging times or if it can be charged faster. Lot of things feel missing. The weight dimensions weren’t included as well previously. Whole customer experience can be better with amazing product by providing helpful details or clips.

I'm sure if they don't somebody will have a file up on Thingiverse within the first month. A DIY solution that costs you all of a few dollars between the print that works with their magnetic/mechanical latching system and a trip to your local fabric store for some elastic.

We have an optional elastic and adjustable top strap inside that can be used for both AIO and glasses mode.

@@ShenYe That's awesome, thanks for that. Can I ask a question: when you tether the headset to PC, does it automatically switch to PC mode, or do we have to activate it like on Quest?

@@AnthonyFransella You have to do a handshake when you set it up. But once that's done, you'll see your SteamVR and/or Viveport PC content in your launcher, which if you click on will auto connect + start the application to make PCVR life a little easier

@@ShenYe Fantastic, thanks again and congrats on what looks like a great headset!

Omg, imagine reading while the set picks up on the words and gives you a matching environment. Ambient sounds and AI generated art to match the scenes... At first I thought reading with this on would be stupid, but now... Hopeful.

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Biggest selling point tbh

100% agree....RIP to my Rift S. A great working headset that was killed because I can't get a replacement cable anymore.

Foveated rendering combined with compression can find a happy medium for performance and latency. I like it.

lmfao. No. They are a CCP owned company.

They probably realize it has the same issue the Pro had..

@Thezuule Yeah that's what worries me. I'm afraid their gonna ditch it just like Meta did. But the depth sensor is a big part of their marketing so feel like its too late to do that...

It probably doesn't even work right bahahah, no reason to not show it off unless it's brokey.

Shen here, yes our eye tracking data will be passed through to support both OpenXR and SRAnipal content.

@@ShenYe great, thanks for clearing that up for me.

Higher (and uniform) FOV won't happen, it's just not possible with modern lens technology, and won't be for a very long time. Eye tracking and AR is a gimmick that has no use other than navigating a 2d menu. Best you can hope for is either going Index and wishing for valve to finally release the wigig adapter they made for it years ago, or waiting for the "Deckard" which may or may not exist.

@@evolicious Some would argue AR is the actual future. Being able to set up complete private environments, controlling your house, taking calls, etc. It's pretty endless. Apps are already coming out now that run AR glasses like Nreal Air. These are prototypes of course, but it's easy to see in 5-10 years that it's going to be very mainstream with possibilities that vastly out perform VR in terms of real life viability and versatility.

@@evolicious bad take on AR.

@@evolicious isn't ffr a big talk for vr performance?

If your prescription is between -6.00 and 0, then you're covered. -6.00 is the limit on these adjustable diopters.

@@ReavoEnd well poop. 10 on Right, 7.50 on the left. No worky for me.

Do these have something similar to airlink?

@@SteveL4 They have a wireless adapter that uses wigig. Its better wifi, but needs a pci slot in your pc and the transmitter has to be near the playspace. Once setup, it works great.

Have to support headsets to get developers to also support?(new apps/games) I'm looking forward to quest 3. Hopefully it comes thru.

@@hungflo3271 huh? You dont go to a restaurant and buy the equipment for the cooks to use, so I can eat later.

@@ronch182 I mean I hear you. Hopefully psvr2 brings more eyes to vr, but the quest 2 is a pretty cool piece of tech. I prefer it to any other form of gaming and would def be happy if it got more love from devs. Crossing my fingers quest 3 gives stand-alone vr a good bump. Also check out hellsweeper vr for quest.. slated for release in q2, but rn thrill of the fight, contractors, bonelab, questzdoom(doom classic games), blade and sorcery, demeo, saints and sinners are all available now and are great on the stand alone. I have my ideas why there's not the huge budget games, but maybe that'll change in the near future.

I can rattle of the list which occupies me for the equivalent of a full time job every week and has almost displaced my monitor, but you'll just have a bunch of bad-faith reasons to knock them off the list. Go back to your MTX apologia.

Yeah actually it's still laughably bulky and uncomfortable. VR is a joke.

Hypothetically the distortion would probably just be a relatively simple shader layered onto each image, which considering how many videogames can use dozens of shaders at a time, and standalone headsets seem to do fine with most games, I don't think processing would be an issue. Interesting idea! Could be worth looking into. Biggest issue I could see is maybe requiring a different set of base lenses or screens? Hard to know unless actually doing any testing on it.

Unfortunately as nice as it would be, that's simply not possible. Near/far-sightedness isn't just a distortion of the image, but more of a blurring effect as the light does not get properly focused on your retina. That means that no matter how you distort or shuffle around the pixels on the screen, each individual pixel will still end up being defocused and perceived as blurred, overlapping one another and causing a fuzzy (and now distorted) image.

@@gampolo2o But interestingly enough, at least in the case of near sightedness, you would expect for a screen which is maybe 6 inches from your face at best to not give you any issues seeing it, but as someone who is near sighted I can tell you it still does. I'm not too sure if this has to do with the lenses used in the headsets or some other thing I'm not aware of. While dynamically changing lenses would likely still be the far simpler solution, even though it'd likely be far off, wouldn't it be hypothetically possible to invent a type of screen specifically designed for XR applications that didn't require any external lenses, and if (and this is a big if) so, couldn't it be possible to alter the screen's way of presenting itself to your eye's focus in a way that could be controlled by software? At this point it's like talking about flying cars when horses and buggies were still being used, so I can't say I can expect anyone to have a good answer to this, but I still think it's fun to talk about. 'Not possible' is what happens when you don't think far enough outside the box!

I'm nearsighted as well! It's still blurry for us because even though the screen is so close to our eyes, the lenses bend the light in such a way to make it seem like they're much further away, which actually requires that your eyes focus to that distance. And while manipulating the flat screen component isn't going to be able to change how the light focuses on your retina, there has been research (by Meta I believe) into flat lenses that can change focal distance with the application of electricity, as opposed to needing to be physically moved. Thin, digitally-controlled lenses like these could allow you to adjust for bad eyesight by just typing in your prescription, or even just adjusting the settings until it looks the sharpest. Who knows, with advances in eye tracking, it may even be able to determine your prescription automatically.

@@gampolo2o That's awesome!

I rather the picture is clear vs getting a bigger FOV.

Over wifi with quest 2 and virtual desktop (protocol software that runs both on the pc and the headset): typical configuration has the pc connected to the router via ethernet cable then the headset connects to the router via wifi. Future headsets will use wifi 6 which will improve bitrate further.

@@spaceghostcqc2137 I mean, that'd be great, except for the fact I'm asking about the Vive XR Elite and the native HTC software... 😂

@@jhoff80 well then I have no clue lmao, this is why you don't post while falling asleep.

@@jhoff80 virtual desktop will be on the xr elite, but if you insist on htc’s software for it, if it’s the same as the focus 3’s streaming software then it’s pretty good just out of the box

And will the $99 D-Link VR Air Bridge designed for Quest 2 wireless PC connection work with this headset, too?

If controllers are selftracking light house is not needed. Quest pro controllers are amazing playing Golf or table tennis.

@@-racingfan2014 self tracking means 60hz IR-based tracking which is not good enough for modern VR experiences aiming at competitive play. 120hz lighthouse tracking is king.

@@evolicious All VR controllers use IMUs for tracking. Cameras and photodiodes are only used for correcting the drift that accrues over time with IMU based tracking. Lighthouse tracking updates at 60 Hz. While there is a plane of light projected at 120 Hz it takes 2 of these planes to know where you are in space. The precise frequency depends on the channel the lighthouse is set to so it can run slower than 60 Hz.

OLED is just so much better, as demonstrated by the PSVR2.

@@calcanadian prefer OLED too even with its drawbacks too. Colors and blacks looks way more real.

Viveport has a pretty extensive standalone catalogue, in between oculus and pico. Most of the big ticket items and a fair percentage of the mid tier.

For me I have to use snap turn(incremental/degree turning) and physical turning, as smooth turn makes me sick. I thought I was going to have to return my q2 headset because of the motion sickness. The flight game I tried wasn't for me and I didn't want to keep the game because of motion sickness(2hr limit for returns).

You can. Just take it slow. There are helpful tips online.

Natively, no, the steam deck doesn't support VR in the first place, but I do remember that there's a way to get steamVR working on it, and since the guy in the video said it's basically plug-&-play then there's a good chance it might work with that

LCD is the wrong move for VR.

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VIVE sells a set of wrist trackers for just that, but they are slightly more expensive. About $129 apiece IIRC.

why not just use the Quest Pro?

@@kevinbrook7033 lots of reasons. HTC has a good reputation for having the cleanest face and eye tracking, even on newer models. Smaller but cleaner optics, portable as heck, clean steamvr integration, the list goes on. I should know; I own a Quest Pro. Even with the addition of the face and eye tracking modules, the XR Elite should be no more than $1250 total. The Quest Pro is $1500 before taxes.

@@xedrexgaming9579 I have a Quest Pro 2, its lenses are phenomenal. I have Vive Pro 2 and it's absolute trash in comparison. The XR Elite does look nice but everybody who has reviewed it has said the lenses are worse than the Quest Pro and are just the same ones in the Vive Flow. The XR elite doesn't even have eye tracking yet so how do you know it will be better?

@kevinbrook7033 because the XR Elite is using the same face tracking systems as the Vive Focus 3, which was pretty comparable to the Vive Pro Eye and it's face tracking attachment, and the Quest Pro doesn't support even close to the range of face tracking that any of Vive's hardware does, simple due to the camera rings and setups. Or lack therof, on the Quest Pro.

Do you think quest 3 will feature these w base product or for an additional cost. My guess $800 for headset w pro controllers.

it's write on the XR Elite site under specs : from 54 to 73mm. hope it help

@@HesternHaste Well, that is slightly better than most. I'm still hesitant to buy anything until I've had a chance to try one out.

What are you, Sid the sloth?

Hello Benjie! Yes you may play Quest games and SteamVR on HTC VIVE given you have a VR-ready PC. You can find more information on compatibility here: store.steampowered.com/vive/.

I think you don't need glasses because it has diopter adjustment

the focal point in the headset is fixed at 1.5 metres (although this does have a diopter). unless they can wire the headset cameras into your brain it will give zero advantage over a thick pair of glasses. we are still a LONG way off from even super high end cinema cameras surpassing the human eye, let along consumer vr headsets. the human eye has 20+ stops of dynamic range, 600 megapixel resolution (although focal point is more like 30 megapixels), and incredible low light

@@legendp2011 it's not about surpassing the human eye. That's like saying fuck the cochlear implant because it's not as good as the human ear

@@lawrence-yx1ew your comparing ears with eyes. instead of looking at the world with your eyes. you are now looking at a screen with your eyes. in both scenarios you are still using your eyes.......and will be limited by them. even if this vr headset had the most amazing camera.... your eyes will be limited. the cochlear implant has practical uses. what eye conditions could be benefited by looking at through a vr headset? if you have cataracts you will still have the hazziness, as you still have to use your eyes to look at a screen. and if you have a -10 prescription, bulky glasses will still be more practical than this and give a better clearer image image. dynamic range is by far the biggest issue with cameras. glasses are more like the cochlear implant, than this vr headset. it's an interesting idea..........but I do not see this idea going anywhere for at-least a decade. direct brain interfaces with connected cameras make more sense in a decade.

@@legendp2011 I expect augmented reality contact lenses that not only fix your vision but have the AR features built in ontop of it eventually. Though maybe it'd need to be surgically implanted, not sure, but I bet we'll see it happen one day!

@@legendp2011 I think you kind of missed my point. I didn't say anything about dynamic range or resolution. I have presbyopia, and bifocals are an imperfect solution at best. Goggles could be made that automatically bring into focus whatever I'm looking at, and would be dramatically higher resolution than my uncorrected vision. Technology already exists that surpasses our ability to see long distances or at night. The human eye is amazing, but it's perfectly reasonable to expect that we'll be using tech like this to augment our vision in the coming decades.

I just hope Vive in-house streaming software makes using Virtual Desktop unnecessary. Meta’s Air Link has already made VD unnecessary with both my Q2 and QPro, for me at least.

I personally dont care about eye tracking with this low resolution display but agree that it will make it last gen. However everything is last gen in this device except form factor and diopter. From lcd panel without local dimming and quest 2 like colors, to no self tracking controllers, mediocre resolution and no displayport option or lossless wired option that could maybe justify this price tag.

I think the XR Elite looks great as a travel type headset, small form factor swappable batteries, but for what I want, the best possible PCVR experience (I prefer wired with USB-C for better bandwidth) the Quest Pro makes more sense as it is slightly better in all areas that matter, display, lenses, FOV, controllers etc. It's good to see HTC finally release a non turd headset again though.

We're excited for you to experience the VIVE XR ELITE, Tom! Since you pre-ordered, you also get 5 popular titles valued at over US$100. 😉

This can also be tethered to a pc

@@spydey2k Yes but a big chunk of the price is for the standalone features. There's a large section of us that don't care about that and just want all the money going towards the best PCVR experience

@@Jdb63 Wireless PCVR is far and away the best PCVR experience for anything but sims (EDIT: Which you're not going to beat the G2 for in the foreseeable future, that already pushes my 4090 in sims). You're just being stubborn and out of touch with the tech.

Norm is one of the only people I really trust reviewing VR gear. I will wait till he gets one of these to really review in his own time and pace before buying. I trust he will really tell how the software side of things work - thats almost impossible to find anything about right now.

There is no such thing as the XR2+ It is just a marketing ploy regarding a heat dissipation approach on the old XR2 chip.

I'd wait for quest 3, but that's me. This looks like more of the same(quest pro w out pro controllers).

@@1fattyfatman there's more improvements than that.

That's not that much.

For that price it should have DisplayPort, because 1100$ is not mainstream anymore. Then the price would be justified, even with those dated specs. Ah well, it's HTC - their official motto might as well be "We always leave something big to be desired - guaranteed."

@@legendfpv too much for what it is/worth. Prolly by $3-500.

Hey there! The VIVE XR ELITE has debuted during CES 2023 and is now available for pre-order here: www.vive.com/us/product/vive-xr-elite/overview/.

@@HTCVive lol, wow!! Thanks for clearing that up HTC!!!! Terrible disconnect with your customers.

Actually it will be micro OLEDs. We need to get rid of LCDs as they have been so detrimental to VR.

I don't need that.. haptics are meh to me. Better hardware/performance matched w titles is the rocket boost that's needed.

I agree and think they should’ve included at least 3 months of free VivePort infinity. I have already mentioned this to Vive support and they told me this may be added later.

Agree, while not happy and also disappointed about no local dimming and no displayport, will still pick this headet up. The form factor and glasses mode Im looking to see if using my headrest on simrig and low weight would make this a good deal. I returned quest pro, uncomfortable, good clarity and colors, but bad binocular overlap.

@@-racingfan2014 I've decided to buy xr elite too when it's out. Meta lost me when they made a discount for US only while keeping outragous 1800 euro price in EU. I would also have to buy controller grips and a top strap mod. On HTC I will have everything I need. Hopefully FOV won't be too small and 3rd party facial interfaces get released along with XR Elite. In case the FOV is not fully fitting I can always buy Quest 3 in October and see how it goes.

Did you just get in w a pico(no quest 2)?

It’s not compatible with base station tracking, so that’s a no

@@scarletbean7434 nooooooooooooooooooooo

@@scarletbean7434 technically anything is compatible with base station tracking if you slap a tracker on it and use SteamVR .

@@Thezuule1 that also depends on 1. What headset you’re using, and 2. If you have a 3D printer to create a dedicated mount for the tracker