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Why won't my 2CV start? Let's fix it!

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Elly the 2CV conked out the other day. Let's find out why! Can we get her running again?
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@andrewriley1664
@andrewriley1664 Жыл бұрын
Loving the old school Hubnut vlog…it’s what attracted me to the channel all those years ago😊
@andrewriley1664
@andrewriley1664 Жыл бұрын
Although it was a successful conclusion so unlike a lot of early Hubnut vlogs😉
@nickhaag7803
@nickhaag7803 Жыл бұрын
yes, I prefer this type of video, spannering is good.
@workonesabs
@workonesabs Жыл бұрын
At least Elly made the prom and not let everyone down by conking out before, not after getting back, Phew!
@iainmacleod4007
@iainmacleod4007 Жыл бұрын
Worth a look at The Late Brake Show. A 2CV resurrected and running sweet as a nut having stood in a garage for decades. The simple engineering means that these vehicles can be left for years and will simply start and run.
@Laz_Arus
@Laz_Arus Жыл бұрын
Just looked here to see if anyone else commented about Jonny's recent release. Perhaps Ian should consider putting in an offer for it and transfer all the working parts into Elly!
@Phil-1969
@Phil-1969 Жыл бұрын
@@Laz_Arussomeone gave Ian basically a complete 2cv in parts a few years ago , it’s in that lock up somewhere I think
@thomasfrancis5747
@thomasfrancis5747 Жыл бұрын
Coincidental to see the socket handle wiggle trick to get the fan off again.
@paultaylor9652
@paultaylor9652 Жыл бұрын
What a lovely bit of old fashioned Mr HubNut tinkering. Great to see the old girl running again to.
@danpeters5028
@danpeters5028 Жыл бұрын
I love how simple old cars are
@MrTrundleon
@MrTrundleon Жыл бұрын
At least Elly had the decency to conk out at The Unit.
@gg_vard
@gg_vard Жыл бұрын
Some classic tinkering time with Elly! Very enjoyable
@allanwinter4991
@allanwinter4991 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the tinkering mate. After owning a car for such a long time, your ears are the best diagnostic system available.
@glidb4
@glidb4 Жыл бұрын
Great to see some tinkering again Ian. Loving the safety sandals...
@SheldonElectricals
@SheldonElectricals Жыл бұрын
Old HubNut is back! Love a bit of tinkering on a smartphone. Just like the old days!
@Involvod
@Involvod Жыл бұрын
Rolling around on a shed floor with a 2CV engine reminds me of the good old days, just missing the brew and pony tail
@robertngreen6
@robertngreen6 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! A thoroughly enjoyable HubNut tinkering video! Good old Elly! ❤
@gleng6812
@gleng6812 Жыл бұрын
Hubnut a legend of the highest order and sets the new fashion in Safety Shoes for the Workshop.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke Жыл бұрын
It'd be interesting to see how the 123-Ignition has failed, may be a fun idea to have a cross-channel thing by sending one of the dead units to BigClive, as he enjoys taking such electronical things to bits, and you never know, might even find a fix for it too... :)
@Simon-ui6db
@Simon-ui6db Жыл бұрын
or to mymatevince
@olik136
@olik136 Жыл бұрын
that is about the 4th time I have seen a 123-Ignition fail on youtube retro channels.. they might introduce more problems than they solve. But that might also be just bad luck.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke Жыл бұрын
@@olik136 In general, an engine is the worst place for electronics to be attached onto as it introduces vibrations, heat and contamination if there are any oil leaks, the other issue is lead-free solder, that stuff is just dreadful for such environments too as that'll fracture and cause parts to become disconnected, so could just be a case of needing a reflow with juicy lead-based solder to revive it, but that's just at a guess without seeing it inside...
@olik136
@olik136 Жыл бұрын
@@twocvbloke sure sure- but on the other hand the standard ignition system has never failed me- you have to change some parts from time to time- but the failure mode is often just "runs a bit worse". Now that might be different on a big V8 with 300hp, but on all my cars I had zero problems with the up to 62 year old tech. But I might just have gotten lucky.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke Жыл бұрын
@@olik136 Personal choice though, some people want to have the improved response times, smoother power curves and with the fancier models, the ability to adjust timings and whatnot on the fly, it's not for everyone, but it's their choice to go with or without...
@221hillsteve
@221hillsteve Жыл бұрын
Nice and easy fix and Ellie is back on the road..and no notes released from the wallet, happy days 😁
@AndrewwMK
@AndrewwMK Жыл бұрын
“I was shown this technique to remove the fan” - proceeds to hit various parts of the engine around the ratchet before one good blow frees it. 😂 Thank you for being the home mechanic most of us are. Love your videos and the return to tinkering
@HubNut
@HubNut Жыл бұрын
I generally prefer the jiggle technique.
@AndrewwMK
@AndrewwMK Жыл бұрын
@@HubNut Though, there is something to be said for scareing it first.
@BokorRider
@BokorRider Жыл бұрын
I was sitting listening to you whilst munching a few pistachios when you mentioned the new phone I look at the video...well from here it looks like a huge improvement in picture quality! Well done on the repair !
@johnlladron735
@johnlladron735 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for a great video of old school tinkering. No faff (apart from the standard integral faff), no multiple angles. Just a well set up frame and you talking away. Only surprise was this tinkering was successful!
@mk2astra
@mk2astra Жыл бұрын
Good old HutNut tinkering, I've missed this, more please.
@brianreardon159
@brianreardon159 Жыл бұрын
She delivered & collected the important cargo. ❤
@stuartmcdonald5772
@stuartmcdonald5772 Жыл бұрын
Good use of the socket,screw driver, breaker bar 😅😅 Great vid. Evey home mechanic ever has been here with a points job.
@alansmith1770
@alansmith1770 Жыл бұрын
A Labour of love with Elly. Glad she is running again. Well Done Ian.
@Phil-1969
@Phil-1969 Жыл бұрын
I’ve sat watching this in my underpants, I think it’s appropriate being a 2cv , well done Ian you do know your onions when it comes to the 2CV
@moneyprofessional
@moneyprofessional Жыл бұрын
Well that was very un-hubnut - you're quite the master 2CV mechanic! Enjoyed watching you tinker and the old stories. Reminded me of your videos from a few years ago.
@daler2577
@daler2577 Жыл бұрын
I would tie the car keys to the Peg then you have to take the peg out in order to start it.😊
@josephjardine32
@josephjardine32 Жыл бұрын
I saw a blue 2CV here in Finland a few days ago and my first thought was Elly, a car that really touches a lot of peoples hearts
@Laz_Arus
@Laz_Arus Жыл бұрын
The video quality from the new Samsung is looking good. Looking forward to its continuing use. 👍
@Jerrydudebad
@Jerrydudebad Жыл бұрын
Love it, felt like watching the Croatia-trip preparation calamity all over again. Plus the title card at the end came so out lf the dark it got a proper laugh out of me.
@sigurbjornl
@sigurbjornl Жыл бұрын
Lovely video. Also very much love the higher bitrate on the video, everything looks very crisp!
@martinneumann7783
@martinneumann7783 Жыл бұрын
Success! Elly is happy again. And Ian also. And us HubNutters as well. Have a nice trip with her… ☀️🤗☀️
@jonathanscripps917
@jonathanscripps917 Жыл бұрын
Safety sandals, love it. Standard operating procedure if you drop something heavy on foot: Swear, eyes tight shut, deep breath, count toes, if 10 found, resume task, if not, call Miss Hubnut 👍
@jennydonne8946
@jennydonne8946 Жыл бұрын
So good ellie is up and running. There is no better sound than a citroen flat twin engine
@lesklower7281
@lesklower7281 Жыл бұрын
A successful tinkering video Elly lives
@Dadsterful
@Dadsterful 10 ай бұрын
What could be more agreeable than learning how to fix stuff while the teacher gently rabbits on about all sorts of random stuff? Sir. I salute you!
@wessler77
@wessler77 Жыл бұрын
Glad Elly did the business for little miss hubnut. Good to see you tinkering too, but in the name of all that is holy, please tidy the garage. The amount of space you lose, not to mention the time it takes you to find stuff.. rope the fam in, make a day of it, put a video out of you doing it and I promise i'll buy you all a cake of your choice via superthanks 😉 #fanbribery #incentive #tidygarage #hastag etc.
@anthonygregg862
@anthonygregg862 Жыл бұрын
absolutely marvellous to see a tinkering video on Elly. Good times all around.
@siriax1691
@siriax1691 Жыл бұрын
Elly dropping all the hints she can for a larger engine.
@karstentopp
@karstentopp Жыл бұрын
Voting for an old school 2 valve BMW boxer engine. Or, even though I don’t think that Ian could pull this off, maybe a BMW flying brick engine?
@karstentopp
@karstentopp Жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I've seen a few cashed Gold Wings/Valkyries. Would that lovely flat 6 fit by any means?
@SiTeeVee
@SiTeeVee Жыл бұрын
Fully embracing the AU Falcon lifestyle with the mullet.
@robertbills4290
@robertbills4290 Жыл бұрын
Liking the tinkering videos always nice when a plan comes together. Well done Ian sounds good
@paulgoldsworthy5971
@paulgoldsworthy5971 Жыл бұрын
nice to be back in the garage ian with some good results. all the best.
@jameswallace7709
@jameswallace7709 Жыл бұрын
Safety sandals!
@bnrynlds
@bnrynlds Жыл бұрын
Safety Mullet!
@HubNut
@HubNut Жыл бұрын
Redefining safety gear, inspired by David Freiburger.
@johnwaga3702
@johnwaga3702 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work!
@graemew7001
@graemew7001 Жыл бұрын
Us Graeme Wilson's are quite resourceful 🤣. Little Miss H has taste, she looked fab for her Prom. I really doubted we'd get a tinkering fail on Elly as you really know her well.
@romac9516
@romac9516 Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable tinker sesh, didn't Elly sound lovely in the end
@paultasker7788
@paultasker7788 Жыл бұрын
Well done. Good fix. Sounds really sweet when she fired straight up. Amazing that she'll also idle on 1 cylinder.
@HakanKoseoglu
@HakanKoseoglu 11 ай бұрын
It's so nice to see a simple engine almost anyone can work on. I wish my cars and bikes were this simple to fix!
@jimg492
@jimg492 Жыл бұрын
Yay, 👍 well done Ian. You're a braver man than me trusting that bonnet stay lol
@Efferpheasants
@Efferpheasants Жыл бұрын
Luminition is the grandad of bolt on electronic ignition, very reliable and usually lasts the life of the car.
@williamdeegan7840
@williamdeegan7840 Жыл бұрын
It would be great if you could come to the US with Elle to the Import Show in Carlisle PA. The biggest assembly of French cars anywhere. Big JDM gathering. Citroën and Volvo, and Saab all have a lot of cars. I finally was given a ride in a 2 CV a few years ago.. I'm still smiling. Great video and channel.
@policewitnesspoplar4865
@policewitnesspoplar4865 Жыл бұрын
wow, back to tinkering ! now you need to tinker with your video editing software to get the sound to stay in sync .
@wxcferdts
@wxcferdts Жыл бұрын
Nice new camera, Ian, but is it me/my pc, or does the audio ever so slightly runs ahaed of sync after some time? I've refreshed a few times, and initially all is well, but some minutes later, the audio advances slightly.
@HubNut
@HubNut Жыл бұрын
No, it is very slightly out. I need to work out if it's the mic, the phone or the editing software.
@derek-press
@derek-press Жыл бұрын
I have the same ,strange
@MrOvershoot
@MrOvershoot Жыл бұрын
@@HubNut The spoken bit was out but I could ignore that as I just watched the tinkering, it was the impact noise when you were persuading things that was most obvious 😉
@thecontinuingadventureso-qs5zm
@thecontinuingadventureso-qs5zm Жыл бұрын
I didn't have any joy with a 123, so I went points with vellman spark booster and two Lucas DB105 sport coils. and that system has served Me well without any problems for over 15 Years. Might I suggest a Harley Davidson coil at least. Ecas sells them. Best Wishes Dee
@daniellee9015
@daniellee9015 Жыл бұрын
Absaloutly brilliant video Ian ❤👍 well done for fixing Ellie brilliant
@Farney-gy1qo
@Farney-gy1qo Жыл бұрын
I love your Timing Peg, I found that a Paint roller Handle good. Almost like the drawing to make one in the Haynes Manual.
@mikehallett9638
@mikehallett9638 Жыл бұрын
Tinkering is what we need. Your c*ck ups make the learning process that much more grounded. Love it.
@robinwells8879
@robinwells8879 Жыл бұрын
The tinkering format on the old stuff is so very very satisfying to watch. Modern stuff is an achievement when you finish successfully but the old stuff is pure joy to watch. They may not be reliable like modern cars but so much easier to work on. I’m off to see if I can get electronic ignition for the DAF.
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain Жыл бұрын
Great little tinkering video, good to see it was not too complicated a fix for Elly.
@_psv__
@_psv__ Жыл бұрын
thats a nice new camera/phone you've got 👍lovely video as usual. all the best to you and yours
@-DC-
@-DC- Жыл бұрын
Been years since I worked on a 2CV incredible to think it's basically a 90 year old design what a Masterpiece of Engineering.
@geofffd1
@geofffd1 Жыл бұрын
Great to see you engaged in repairservicing buggery on Elly again Hubbers....
@paulrr4.4tdv88
@paulrr4.4tdv88 Жыл бұрын
Arh tinkering,that’s more like it, proper Hub Nut👍👍
@mikeg8835
@mikeg8835 Жыл бұрын
....and that.s why I've never bothered with electronic ignition, it seems less reliable then good old points Ian.
@HubNut
@HubNut Жыл бұрын
In 20 years and over 130,000 miles, I've had three electronic ignition failures, only one of which left the car non-running. When I had that camouflage Dyane, I had the condenser fail within 10 miles...
@PRG888
@PRG888 Жыл бұрын
Loved this, these videos start to give me confidence I can have a go tinkering with my 2cv
@roseybut
@roseybut Жыл бұрын
First class bit of tinkering! It's been a while since anything was fixed at the first attempt. Well done!😏😏😏
@persevere777
@persevere777 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh nothing like a good tinkering!!! Harley went with water cooled heads due also to temperature control moreso for emissions.
@andysalter4473
@andysalter4473 Жыл бұрын
Ellie lives again! Love the phrase, " The container of things"
@geraldmellon740
@geraldmellon740 Жыл бұрын
Tinkering video is spot on Ian. More of the same would not go amiss. Great job!
@terryatkinson3182
@terryatkinson3182 Жыл бұрын
Jonny Smith did a 2cv just like this, you'd have loved to find it in a barn. The sweetest engine you ever heard on the one he found..... for sale as well.
@alanpickering4497
@alanpickering4497 Жыл бұрын
Took me back. I used to keep a spare coil under my 2cv seat as swapping it would get it started.
@anthonystevens8683
@anthonystevens8683 Жыл бұрын
Nice one Ian, as you say Elle when she's feeling unwell she will endeavour to get you so somewhere safe where she can relax and if needed get the doctor out. She's such a lovely car with a ton of personality and dare I say it a proud member of the Hubnut family and as such performed her prom delivery duty for another family member. Great work on the fix Ian, I thought I nearly saw a very slight smile from her.
@edgarbeat2851
@edgarbeat2851 Жыл бұрын
At some point, I'd recommend fitting slightly harder brake pads for the downhill brake use. I did that to my bikes.
@anthonyostell5776
@anthonyostell5776 Жыл бұрын
Great to see the tools back out. I'm really pleased you fixed the problem, I always feel a bit sad when Elly is not running properly . Great video as always 👍
@KiwiStag74
@KiwiStag74 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Been there, done that with a Triumph 2500S and Accuspark / Powerspark EI module, so you have my empathy there, Ian. The first time it died, it would cut out temporarily and as I slowed down with no engine running, suddenly come back to life for 5 mins or so.....and then wash, rinse, repeat. Caused a huge belch of flame out the exhaust accompanied by a loud bang when she did it going down a hill! That first EI unit lasted 3000km, so I replaced the coil with a new one when I picked up the new EI unit.....which lasted about half that distance and just quit and would not work again. So, I bought a Lumenition one - a well respected brand - that lasted around 7000km. At this point, I looked at the money I had spent on EI units versus the cost of points and how many sets of the latter I could have purchased with the same amount of cash and decided to go back to 'old school' tech. However, it was not long after this that I discovered how bad the modern condensers are and having had issues with both burnt points and weak spark, I gave in and bought a cheap Chinesium knockoff of the Lucas 45D6 distributor, set it up with a relay so it got a constant 12v from the battery when the key was on and she's been right as rain ever since - 25000km and counting. I do in fact keep the old dizzy in the boot of the car, set up with a new set of points, just in case the EI decides to let go somewhere inconvenient though. Even after all this time, I'm still not sold on their reliability eh!
@HowardLeVert
@HowardLeVert Жыл бұрын
On a day when there have been dark and depressing mutterings about the ECU in my (currently dead) 530i 🙁, how lovely to see such an easy "fix"🙂. And yes, how good to return to the days of tinkering on Elly with a mobile phone recording it (which does produce superb pictures, by the way).
@robames1293
@robames1293 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT Hubnut at his best working on a car on which he is an expert. Be careful handling leaky oil coil could be PCB which is considered a cancer risk
@colblimp
@colblimp Жыл бұрын
Ah, a successful tinkering video. Love it - more of these!
@harryharker9564
@harryharker9564 Жыл бұрын
I am always tinkering with my cars but theres something about a 2CV that always makes me happy.Love the elly content long may she reign
@SB-vb8ch
@SB-vb8ch Жыл бұрын
With no ground you will see 12v on both sides....they are connected together! That's the winding!
@paulwatts2192
@paulwatts2192 Жыл бұрын
You know Ellie like to be the star of the show.I got you to the proms. Now it’s my time to be on camera and have some love.
@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968
@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you wearing and by example promoting, the appropriate PPE 👍 Couldn't help but notice a fine pair of safety sandals which allow a generous flow of air around the toes and instep. So many others fail in this respect and wear unhealthy Tin Toe Boots thus surrendering themselves to the threat of trench foot and numerous other fungal infections and let's face it "Stink Foot" can and often does ruin many a social circle including family life. 👣🤮
@johnmilner2316
@johnmilner2316 Жыл бұрын
Nice cool sardonic comment - basically the man's a fool and will waste NHS time one day
@daspoppy
@daspoppy Жыл бұрын
Well done. !!
@micheltebraake7915
@micheltebraake7915 Жыл бұрын
It was too stressful for Elly to drive that prom, so she stopped afterwards. 😉 Successful repair Ian.
@mrsmith697
@mrsmith697 Жыл бұрын
Yes you now 2 cv..i am imprest..looks like a pro in work..
@I-T-S-M-E
@I-T-S-M-E Жыл бұрын
Like the 4k, sound sync good for me.
@pemlars
@pemlars Жыл бұрын
This was interesting. I have the 1-2-3 on my charleston. Some time ago I install a rev-counter, but then the engine did not start. I did not find out why, so the counter was removed, and the engine startet. May be, after seeing your video, I can check why it did not work with the rev counter. I got some ideas after seeing the video. I will come back if I find what I did wrong.........
@craigmclean8260
@craigmclean8260 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the successful repair job! I think the "wasted spark" ignition was used on quite a few twins; may also explain why Harleys (and other motorbike twins) occasionally pop out the exhaust on startup. I wonder if "ThunderHead289's" "Carb Cheater" would work on the carburetors in Elly and Giselle? Looks like an interesting way to monitor fuel/air mixture, and as an aid to adjustments...Video quality w/ the new phone-cam is excellent; I did notice a very slight lag in the sound vs. the picture, though...Well-done on the tinkering!
@rolandleusden
@rolandleusden Жыл бұрын
I have a 10 year old 123 ignition that has done 60.000 km without problems, including trips of 1600km in 2 days.
@fhwolthuis
@fhwolthuis Жыл бұрын
Great job, Ian. And great image quality of the new Galaxy S23 Ultra 😀😀
@SmashingPistons
@SmashingPistons Жыл бұрын
This is a nice return to the ye olde Hubnut style video. Lovely little stories while fettling with an old engine. (Simon, WAS ProjectMGTF, now Smashing Pistons)
@davefrench3608
@davefrench3608 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see some spannering going on Ian Good job She died in the yard not when taking LMHN to her do
@adrianellis6902
@adrianellis6902 Жыл бұрын
Super vid Ian, what you don't know about 2cvs isn't worth knowing, one thing was bugging me, a coat of black paint on your fan shroud, sorry mate bit of ocd , take care wonderful bit of tinkering.
@michaelstaunton1632
@michaelstaunton1632 Жыл бұрын
A really enjoyable video , great to have some tinkering & conversation too and great pictures with the new phone so well done 👍👍
@julianowens4071
@julianowens4071 Жыл бұрын
Love the video,what fun
@zubeystinzen540
@zubeystinzen540 Жыл бұрын
Wow coincidence or what,on the late brake show barn finds they found a Citroen 2cv had the same problem on the old points. Great fix👍
@jorgefernandez-mv8hu
@jorgefernandez-mv8hu Жыл бұрын
It is so nice when you get it going again. Nice bit of tinkering.
@robertmiddleton5663
@robertmiddleton5663 Жыл бұрын
great stuff i old school and just love the wiggle ect my fist car was a r reg 2cv6 vert bambo i took my test in it at 17 years old. 1979. did you see the real aussie bush mechanics when the put the coil in a coke can full of water and euk leaves think it was an old hq 202 holden they drove off in it .i love improvisation it used to be called a good bodge to get you out trouble 🤠😱
@mervynsowman51
@mervynsowman51 Жыл бұрын
I think you'll find that you'll get a constant feed on each side of the coil. Hence the term "Breakerless ignition", their is no break in the circuit, its a pulse/spike. I could be wrong, has been a while.
@HubNut
@HubNut Жыл бұрын
No, I suspect you're right...
@Prestone44
@Prestone44 Жыл бұрын
It's a little worrying that a full electronic ignition fails. Imagine this happening to you at night when it's raining, in the middle of nowhere... :-( I installed a "Grand Laurent" module. You disconnect the capacitor which is often a source of failure with new productions but you keep the contacts who "enslave" the module. Like a sort of relay, the module's transistors are responsible for cutting off and restoring the current sent to the coil. I installed a parallel circuit that allows the module to be bypassed and an outlet for a spare capacitor to be reconnected in the event of a breakdown, all without tools.
@michaelwright2986
@michaelwright2986 Жыл бұрын
So nice to have tinkering, especially successful tinkering that identified and fixed the problem by a thoroughly rational process. And the accompanying anecdotes were great, too--I love the thought of Elly turning into a fire-breathing dragon (or rather, fire-farting dragon--I've never seen one of those at a Chinese New Year celebration, and I've seen some good dragons). On your new phone: I haven't checked the comments, but I'm sure you've been told that the sound track is out of sync: I first noticed when you were giving the socket subtle persuasion with the hammer, which makes a good diegetic clapper board. But also out of sync when you're talking on camera. The image quality is good--stabilisation satisfactory, the zoom is a good addition, and detail good (splendid definition of the hair on your arm in the close up). But since one of your motives for changing from the DJI was a lack of oomph in the pictures (I thought the grey Honda on a grey day was rather moody, but probably not good for the algorithm), you might want to tweak the colour, which is quite subdued. I don't know what you've got on the Samsung, and it might be different for video than for stills, but a full set of controls will give you a slider for colour saturation; I think you need to push that up a bit, because the colours are quite muted even to my taste, and I like things quiet. There's also another control you sometimes get called "Vividness" or something like that; I don't understand it, but I think it increases differentiation between colours locally or summat--anyway, it gets you a little more punch in the colour without the overall effect getting absurd. It is such a relief to see tinkering on Elly, where everything is visible and most of it accessible, and the relationships between the parts are clear. It must be a relief for you, too: I sometimes look at you struggling with a turbo diesel with fuel injection plumbing and air plumbing and complex electricals cramming the engine compartment, and I frankly boggle.
@Roger_Ramjet
@Roger_Ramjet Жыл бұрын
Same thing going on over at Late brake show.....too funny
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