hai!!!

dude, I need some ID on that hoodie you got

please, brother

チ឴ン឴ポ឴を឴マ឴ン឴コに入れたい

Thanks for another *HUGE DRAMA* vid, Pyro.

As a fnaf fan I can confirm that statement.

Funny considering i have a friend who is a fnaf fan,he literally all the time draws golden Freddy,or at least tries to.

that game would actually have an ounce of passion so no

"Fan" implies there is passion behind it, something which from what I can tell is completely lacking in Banban (unless you count passion for money, which there probably is more than enough of). And honestly, you underestimate FNaF fans.

I just got flashbacks

except as pyro said, games stop being scary if you unclip part of the headphone, whereas moistcritikal only ever plays with one earbud in.

@@metformin3154 yeah but tbf earbuds can be pretty loud

@@metformin3154 wait really? i thought charlie played them with headphones on, never noticed it ig

This is so true

The finale boss of a horror game Is my father

Totally, they've hit the jackpot by having so many eyes on their game, good or bad. They're in a great position to capitalize on it.

Yeah, It's got a similar vibe to Baldi's basics. A game so janky and unusual, but unlike Banban the difference is it's self aware and deliberately plays into the irony. It's funny but at the same time the empty nature of the game and its lack of polish captures a unique vive and makes aspects of it unexpectedly disturbing.

@@malicioususer1837 and baldi actually slightly does its job as a horror game

I honestly thought it was a self-aware game in the beginning, seeing how awful it was gameplay-wise UNTIL THE BIRD. Like many of the comments here are saying, I felt viscerally disturbed by Opila bird in the same way Baldi did. It was a shame that most people looked over its uniqueness as an enemy ai (and also the footsteps coming up the wall suggesting its relentlessness)

A lot of people thought it was meant to be satire, they could've just pretended that was their intention

Until someone dug their nose into his business and doxxed him because politics are a thing.

@@twister107 which was the biggest example of the insanity of people...

Scott didn't even learn from his criticism, he just took what people said and made it. People said the characters in his Christian games looked like creepy animatronic mascots and decided he'd just make one last game about that, and then it popped off

it's not borderline, it's criminal behavior. First world people really have nothing going on with their lives to gang up on a shitty game that much. Specially when there's a myriad of shitty games on steam

It’s not even separating art from artist, it’s just not being a completely terrible person.

and "WE'VE BEEN COMPRAMISED"

Don't forget "OH COLONEL WE ARE SO FUCKED"

What about "Hello Captain!"

SPIT IT OUT CORPORAL

ITS GAME OVER MAN

People aren't entitled to the devs accepting their criticisms. I think it takes a narcissistic type of person to think like that which Twitter does have a lot of.

@@xddude People are not entitled to have their criticism heard, but if the devs want people to like their game, they need to make a game people will LIKE. That means listening to criticism and adapting accordingly.

I mean 99% of the "threats" they are running away from Twitter from are just pointing out the game sucks.

I mean, imagine for a second you release a drawing of a fan character you like. You get pinged twice every minute, someone trashing your drawing. You've gotten the point after the first three people told you your drawing is bad. Now imagine you have a thousand people telling you that your drawing is bad. You can be making breakfast, you're getting coffee, you check your email- it's the same thing. Someone shitting on your drawing. I'd delete my Twitter too.

@@cryppi1510 I mean twitter is a cesspool in general, so it's not that big of a surprise. that aside, from what I usually see(so it's not exactly representative of anything), people who have 'bad drawings' do get criticism but if they accept the criticism others will tweet resources(websites, videos, etc) to help them get better. but if they respond badly they get dunked on. that's just personal anecdotes, though.

LITERALLY, SHADE SMOOTH exists for a REASON!!!

Bet they only watch 2 episodes of Blender Guru's donut tutorial and call it a day

Pyro doesn't like things mature

@@spicy1615 ay yooo

respect for having a green day profile pic

@@spicy1615 💀

@@spicy1615 don't lmao

"Garten Of Bannan Drama Is Huge" Is way better, I love kids

​@@soup985 YOU WHAT??

He gotta stop using huge man

@uwumeowmeow😘😘 I’m glad your respecting his 500+ genders

@uwumeowmeow😘😘 I dunno man isn't they/them already an established gender neutral? Gendered pronouns are stupid to begin with, Finnish did this so much better.

The difference is that the chapter in banban is designed to be just barely over two hours if you don't know what you're doing.

This game literally tries to waste as much time as possible. I'll never understand how the main mechanic is a drone that presses giant buttons that you can reach yourself. They don't deserve the hate but the game is bad enough to warrant a refund.

@@HeavyhandedDame People new after the first free game that Part 2 wouldn't get any better. Best thing people can do is literally just not buy it. Because buying it with the intent to play and refund it is shitty.

@@malpheus4299 It's not fair to attack people over what is only speculation. Be reasonable.

@@xddude Yeh I like how everyone is assuming the brothers made chapter 2 longer just to pad out time... Liek wasn't everyone saying that part one was too short with no substance? Well they decided to fix that by adding more things for ch 2 and now everyone's saying that they're "padding runtime" like what do you ungrateful gamers want 💀

You joke, but that sort of contest is what gave us Baldi's Basics (which, regardless of your opinion of it, is probably a more cohesive experience than Garten).

You mean game jams?

@@NicoNicoNessieSub It definitely isn’t the case

@@NicoNicoNessieSub no they only made 2d games back then. While yes they are new to 3d games, they aren't immune to criticism as it's obvious this change of direction is to cash grab.

@@NicoNicoNessieSub If people are being awful, how about they back off and realize how awful they're being without needing excuses?

I wish you success man.

@@Spoopy_man thanks

I think the only issue is that it has...pretty much nothing else-

This doesn't really apply to them tho. The entire thing was made in order to generate as much traction as quickly as possible. It gives major "I did it for money" vibes. It doesn't help that the 2nd chapter is a mess from top to bottom. It's a poorly optimized game with a poor quality designs, passable at best VA that is filled with lazily designed puzzles and tries to waste as much time as possible in order to dodge possible refund and/or make an impression that the game is filled with content.

​@@kolbayada4938 It kind of does really, like I do agree lots of this game really feels lazy and in many cases the game lacks any soul to it. But again what got them here still might be do to the issues most indie devs like myself face. Looking at the devs other games before BanBan they did seem to have actually tried to make some interesting games, but seems like they suffer the issue of not getting any attention on what they made, so they just threw up their hands and say F-it and just make a quick Mascot Horror game in hopes that somehow it gets caught in the trend. I don't agree with the direction they took and how they are doing it, but at the same time I can't blame them on why they ended up taking this path.

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

what.......

What fictional dead child?

@@themustardman219 Elizabeth Afton

@@CollidedUniverses ah, I see.

Tbf that's like the barebones formula of mascot horror

I mean the first game is free and the second game is only 5$, of course they need other way to make revenue

How else are game devs supposed to make money? Charity?

@@Memorie the game budget is probably like $10 at max

That Poppy game was even worse. “Lore” of the game hidden behind a NFT pay wall. Preying on kids with bloody NFTs. 🤦‍♀️

the 2 devs are babies as well since they demand 5 dollars for a shitty half baked game in which half the assets are taken from a model store and then complain on twitter that people are refunding their game

They exaggerated the "threats" as an excuse to hide from criticism. This is a common tactic for people who create trash. (See the actors/directors of the newer SW movies and the idiots responsible for Ring of Power)

They weren't unfortunate for their game getting popular, yes I know, no one should be harrassed or sent death threats. But a majority of people who are critising, harassing them is all because of their attitude and behaviour. It was their doing for making the community mad. If it was another game, with developers more mature and willing to improve, I'm sure lesser death threats would be seen.

@@EighmyLupin bro im convinced you just want someone to hate its not that serious get help

But for the cherry on top they hate on it more because they made a bajillion merch when like it immediately became popular And the second one costs money that’s not even worth it

I feel this, but...I'm not sure if Kissy Missy played too major of a role in PP chapter 2-

@@damienearl8302 You're thinking of the wrong person, they meant Mommy Long Legs

@@theneverwatcher9860 Oh, I know, I was just joking around

@@damienearl8302 heh, you said pp

@@theneverwatcher9860 I'm not sure if kissy missy counts as the "female version" of huggy wuggy

Content

integrity is just a thing of the past

Uh no you don't get to blame people for pointing out the game is garbage and 99% of the content is made to stretch out the time played over 2 hours. It's in no way their fault the devs are soulless money grabbers. If you really think the devs are innocent victims maybe you should check out their other games, like the one that makes fun of victims of school shootings

@@EighmyLupin I didn't say the devs were "innocent victims". Stop arguing with straw and give it another go. _"99% of the content is made to stretch out the time played over 2 hours"_ 99% of the content is made to cash in on the hate train for the game. As I said at the end, it's mostly "soulless money grabbers" hating on other soulless money grabbers - the latter of which can only exist because the scene, and those who popularise content in the scene, allow them to... because it makes them money.

@@EighmyLupin That’s not the point. KZfaqrs are the only reason anyone knows about this game. They’re the ones pushing it into the spotlight because it gives them views. If it was that bad you don’t have to play it. Honestly, I think the recent poppy playtime controversy got people triggered at any mascot horror game that came out. Garten of BanBan was just the icing on the cake

Depends on what we define as harassment

@@unclebaba3463 I agree but I have no issues believing they were harassed. The issue is HOW much harassment? I highly doubt there was a lot.

@@xacmashe3852 He said they were doxxed.

@@Sunny-hm7ui That's actually messed up. People are even calling them babies even though all they pointed out was that all the "constructive criticism" was just straight up bullying. I honestly feel terrible for them, and people are making fun of the fact that a fan made game made in a week is better even though the person behind the remake had artist, modelers, music/sound designers helping them, an already pre made story, and a pretty good idea of a map. People are comparing 2 people who have to actually plan things out(even though the game is bad) to somebody who had to use tutorials, and learn the simplest things.

@@okay.8623There are millions of other bad indie games out there, but this one got unlucky and got popular so they are picking ONLY on this game and not the other horrible ones. I’ve went on Twitter and still believe Twitter people are dumb because in the posts that they said they were doxxed, the replies were all like: “Yeah, you’re just over exaggerating to make people feel sorry for you. Doesn’t change how we still think you’re making these games just for money! I am not going to help you with this problem because you need to learn how to make better games”. Even all the nice replies hoping that they can resolve the problem get TRASHED on by other people saying that they deserve it. People NEED to learn that The Euphoric Brothers need to survive too! They said that they’re working jobs AND in school. I believe them because they need more supporters than haters due to the amount of other games that suck. Sorry, I went on a little rampant there, I just got frustrated on how people are oblivious to other games that suck.

Cough cough ( poppy playtime nfts) cough cough

Cough cough Hogwarts Legacy shit show cough cough

*cough cough (roblox RF) cough cough*

not enough inflated furry farts for him 😢

not enough cubs

​@@bunnyventi 🤨

@@bunnyventi why do you know that terminology?

@@VOLATILEVOXELS wtf does that term even mean bro ?

Also, thanks for complementing my art. I appreciate it, I suppose :]

​@@FunfettiSundae hi there

I think there's a guy on youtube who speedran Sekiro and got a refund

@@UriGerhard If you're good enough to beat it in 2 hours you deserve a refund

Nah, I dont agree. Theres good reasons NOT to stretch a game unnecessarily and sometimes theres just nothing good to add anymore. Steam policy should be less than X% of a completed (main) game and not just less than two hrs.

@Zar Nikolaus II. no man's sky on release had a 2 hour tutorial, it took 4 hours to complete because of crashing & framerate so I couldn't get a refund. I agree with this sentiment

@@minecraftzocker272 nah steam shouldn’t allow the developer to choose the refund time lol for obvious reasons

That was taken from a Zanimations video.

Still doesn’t excuse the harassment. Additionally not every indie game needs to be that level of quality. Obviously devs should try but everyone needs to start somewhere.

@@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime Of course it doesn't, the harassments and threats to family is wholly and completely unnecassary. Internet echo chambers will always take things too far. Yes everyone starts somewhere, but people can look past a lot of things if they see the game has heart. Asset flips and trend hopping games are made with a quick buck in mind, whereas you can tell when something is a passion project.

​@@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime No it really does

​@@alfalldoot6715 How so?

They deserve it. It's an absolutely horrible game

@@10pmmemes88 imagine trying to justify doxxing, constant harrassment, and being covered in stigma because "duhh they make bad game so me amgy"

Yes

​@Evelyn phish they were people trying to exploit others for money by abusing a trend, they got burned. Now that there is a example of what can happen it will most likely become a little less likely that it will happen happen again, to sum it up, fuck around and find out.

@@sharkenjoyer It's not just a bad video game it's lazily made in order to trick impressionable kids who are hyper into mascot horror into buying $60+ hoodies with a small picture of the character the dev imagined and designed in less than a minute. The games have no effort or passion put into them and if you think there is then you don't know what passion for your craft is. It's not "duhh they made bad game" it's "they jumped on a bandwagon and put so little effort into their game it's insulting. Not to mention the FREE episode 1 had a merch store of the least creative characters barring LITERAL STICK FIGURES on overpriced clothing. They do not AT ALL deserve to make money off of this product." Does it justify being doxxed or harassed? No. It absolutely justifies a stigma. If you put out a bad product it SHOULD be stigmatized as a bad product until it is improved that is how this is SUPPOSED to work. Unfortunately, even before all the harassment, the devs have already proven they are unable to take criticism, but since they got a dozen people being incredibly shitty, now you're willing to excuse all the bullshit Banban devs have done because they got insulted on the fucking internet. It's like a skit out of south park.

The algorithm loves it though. That why everyone titles their drama videos this way.

this channel is only for money, to pay for his expenses and his main channel

@@kirb1430 still brain rot though , bro can’t last a video without making a video game comparison lol I miss his deep dive videos but gotta wait for that sponsor money. I’m not hating just saying it’s kinda weird he talks about topics and stuff and acts better than thou sometimes when he does this stuff

Drama generates attention Huge generates inflation fetish

That’s what it is. It’s a horror game. It’s a failed horror game though because it’s not scary.

@@Allustar That is so crazy it’s almost like that is the point of the joke

@@Allustar i think it’s a massive troll

@@Rhavir a joke turns bland once you fuck it up or you fuck it up, your point is dull as the leg of a chair.

@@moltenlord8733Ai generated character chasing you down is very scary wdym

The toothbrush?

They have more than 2 games though

@@Wetbread127 I'm talking about the Garten of Bam Bam games

@@friendlyneighborhoodnoob Oh ok

Yeah all the devs should rot in Hell

And Changed The Red To A Darker Red

Hi daggz

Imo it wasnt even that bad, like these guys had a merch store and sequels planned from day oneand they havent even trademarked it?

@@kuba_mar it costs to trademark things. Key word there is costs. These devs don’t have the money to do it. Hence the asset flipping.

I definitly cringed when I saw the tweet but it's cool you know it was kinda messed up

​@Multi If you can't afford to trademark or even make your own assets then you aren't ready to out your game on steam.

Agreed. The game is schlocky and full of flaws, and the devs are following a terrible game structure at best/blatantly hungry for cash at worst, sure... but the way people have been acting, it's like people think they're personally destroying the entire horror genre. It's been way over the top since day 1 and escalating to death threats and bullying them off the platform comes as no surprise. People are whack. No clue why this jank in particular made everyone blow a fuse, but anyone participating should be ashamed

You are also talking about the same people who made a school shooter simulator... And they also call refunding the game "a personal attack." They're not good people.

They call refunding games “scummy” while what’s scummy is that you produce a half-baked potato piece of shit game and expect people to play it for a long time or like to where they don’t refund it. A lot of people gave hate. Also this is labeled as “HORROR”. What kind of horror is this. It’s the kind children’s channels will be milking because this thing is worse than child horror. However another thing is scummy is doxxing and leaking someone until they must leave the internet. That shit is fucked up.

They also made a scummy merch store

You people really need to do your research on this. People aren't harrassing them JUST BECAUSE of GoB. There's so much more to it than just that. I'm not saying that what the brothers are receiving is ok (besides criticism) I'm just tired of people thinking that they are only receiving those things because of GoB

They feel like projects made by beginner game devs, and i kind of believe they're just teenagers or young kids trying their hand at game development. I could be wrong but part of me wants to believe they aren't being scummy or cheap but instead are just beginners to game dev

@@NicoNicoNessieSub idk how up to date their site is but the older brother says hes a first year college student meaning hes only about 18 and other is younger no idea how younger but the idea of teenagers trying their hand doesn't seem too far off

@@NicoNicoNessieSub they've made multiple games in the past, and this ain't even their first 3D game. This is 100% a cash grab and not some new game devs making a shitty game. Is the harassment warranted? No. But that doesn't mean this isn't a bad cash-grabby game

good demo man pfp.

He cameo

You cameo

vile ass comment lmao

You know,I think these slander comments should be allowed but under Pyro's clickbait thumbnails because seriously,when will he stop doing this?

​@@xxsegaxx Slander?

@@snkybrki i dont get it

@@cobaltqueenston Neither do I. Don't see any slander in the above comment.

yeah that was an asshole move

shut up

True

How do you guys come up with pyro quips 10 secs after a video is published

​@@gugtons7357 They don't come up with it

True

What the actual fuck

garden of bananas

Ayo?

Ok this too far guys

@@Astro_Error A comment above talks about him preaching his fetish to kindergarten children. You don't know what too far is in this comment section.

"The pyrocynical drama is huge" ( Huge furry drama)

yeah, I'd argue that giving them money will only encourage them to make more and more cashgrab sequels. Thus scamming even more dumb kids.