HUGE MID HANDICAP 2020 IRON TEST - 2020 has seen some great mid handicap irons. Such as the Taylormade SIM irons, Callaway Mavrik Irons, Ping G710 irons & the Cobra Speedzone irons. But which are the best mid handicap irons?
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@davidpollard39214 жыл бұрын
For a mid handicap golfer myself I always find Mark's views honest and relevant Good video
@darrenbell63764 жыл бұрын
Great content guys i play off 6 and at 50 yrs old need all the help i can get with distance. I gamed the new cobra forged tec for a month and just couldn't get on with them at all so had a fitting again for the cobra sz and all i can say is wow wow wow. Let me say i hit a very high ball and produce lots of spin so the speedzone fit me like a glove. All the crap about strong lofted clubs is bull yes they won't suit everyone but for me i would never go back to players irons again. Let me also say i hate blades and always have done as drop offs and off centre strikes are horrible. Technology is there to help us ageing golfers and the cobra sz will be firmly in my bag for years to come
@samclulow4 жыл бұрын
James, you took the words out my mouth, from someone who’s been watching channel for a while, marks swing is looking loads better! Keep up the great work chaps! 👍🏌🏿♂️
@rudyj12124 жыл бұрын
I just ordered my set of mavs Thursday. Cant wait for them to come in
@andrewtopping19374 жыл бұрын
Thought the same. Mark's swing looks so much better. He's clearing his hips well. I always thought his lower body was a bit stagnant. Not anymore. Looks good.
@deadlymantis42104 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter what it looks like. Is it functional? Has his Hcp improved since being on this channel? Is he hitting lower scores? I know low single figure Hcps with awful looking swings
@Nick-kq2sw3 жыл бұрын
I'm a 10-11 handicap. I ordered three 7 irons to try... Mavrik, Mavrik Max, and Ping G710. I preferred the way the Max and G710 launched the ball up in the air so easily so it came down to those two. I really like them both. However, I decided to keep the G710 and buy the set over the Max. I liked how the G710 looked when addressing the ball. It was definitely a slimmer look than the Max which sort of looks like a shovel. I also got about 4-5 yards more with the G710.
@Dirtyfrnk0074 жыл бұрын
Sorry James.... always enjoy Mark’s reviews on clubs a bit more. This was an absolute awesome review!!!
@carldecator29704 жыл бұрын
Love to see you guys do a mid handicap test on wedges. I just bought a Cleveland CBX 2, 54 degrees. Fills the gap I had in my bag from 100 yards. Best wedge I’ve ever hit.
Finally a decent review of these clubs well-known done I liked it. I have just purchased Mavrik with graphite shafts, very pleased with them.
@johnshaver60554 жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@darrenbell63764 жыл бұрын
I tried the sim and maverick along with the cobra sz James and cobra gave much more consistent numbers and i always felt in control of the club head with the speedzone which is why they are in my bag
@jbspullins17254 жыл бұрын
Tried all of these and I had similar results, was between the Ping g710 and Mavrik , but in the end I took the Mavrik it was just a touch better for my swing.
@Nick-kq2sw4 жыл бұрын
I'm between those two as well. I love the look of the Ping but a set is about $300 more.
@sammyjankiss2873 жыл бұрын
I did he exact same thing. I wanted performance over looks and they haven’t met me down.
@carldecator29704 жыл бұрын
Good video, but I’m keeping my Ping G400’s - consistent, predictable distance anywhere on the face. As a 12hcp, I do use the entire face (probably more than I should). I’ve purchased Callaway (last set was Razor) and found the iron faces to have “hot spots”
@richardvalentine41334 жыл бұрын
Wow, strong lofts, strong performance. Mark strikes a great ball, and as he said that would make the driver redundant! Those sort of distances would make both my 3 wood and driver redundant! Really good honest video guys, thanks.
@bernardhilton35273 жыл бұрын
Very informative, well done Mark and thank you for this video. The only suggestion I would make would be to ask Mark to hit the longer 4 iron off a low tee. This iron would be my go to driving iron on a windy day, on a tight fairway or when my diver isn’t working.
@nigelstanley36744 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. Didn’t appreciate the massive variance in the clubs and lofts so clearly much homework needed when doing your comparisons - eggs and not eggs in some cases. Thanks
@michaeltremarco80624 жыл бұрын
They seemed more game improvement irons. I'm a 15 handicap and I wouldn't try any of them, I'm using the AP3 irons now and I'm looking for an upgrade this year and I'm learning toward trying the T200, I210, 919 forged, Apex forged, p790, mavrik pro
@marc66523 жыл бұрын
I know it's a long time since this video is on line. But I wanted to share my experience with you. I just went for a fitting and I'm a mid handicap golfer too. At the end, I went for a G710. I go longer and I'm more consistance with this 7 iron (29,5°) than with my current 6 iron (26°). The smash factor improved considerably thanks to the ALTA shaft and the perfect swing weight (C9).
@jaymegoode60374 жыл бұрын
The Pings would look great with a black shaft. I just bought a set of Callaway Apex Pros and love them. Good job Mark!!
@tommiethatcher72654 жыл бұрын
Great to see Mark testing the new range of mid handicappers irons and striking them well Great looking swing Mark and a great honest review 👏👏
@garydavis82134 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how Mark obviously got on so well with everything, especially the Mavrik, with the Taylormade being a HUGE outlier.
@johnorr85784 жыл бұрын
Nice one Mark. Could you do a similar comparison of high handicapper forgiving irons James ? I am thinking of Wilson Staff, Cleveland etc.
@weirdmood81024 жыл бұрын
I love my cleveland launchers. It's near impossible to hit a bad shot.
@donaldschwartz35074 жыл бұрын
Just go with the mavrik and if you need more loft get the mavrik max.. Just got a set last week. I had a set of nikes that I bought in 2010 and I knew it was time for a new set these mavriks are so easy to hit and they feel Great
@darrenbell63764 жыл бұрын
Mark give them cobra sz a go they blew me away on the course. Feel, distance control and forgivness were top draw for me and better than any players distance iron i have used.
@lesliehines41114 жыл бұрын
excellent video. Like the format. It's a great way to show the key aspects of the different clubs.
@frankstiltner78983 жыл бұрын
That swing and the distance he is getting looks a lot better than a mid handicappers 👏🤨
@ciarancummins74 жыл бұрын
Mizuno JPX919 are the best range of irons out there. The Tour, Forged and Hot metals combine well too if desired. I have the forged, and consistent distance is so important. You get random long shots with i500s and P790s due to low loft and hollow injected heads.
@smileypureblood9304 жыл бұрын
Marks full swing is definitely a single figure swing ...looks smooth and effortless 👍👍👍👍
@tuffguy522r4 жыл бұрын
Recently got fitted for irons myself. I hit the mavrik well, but they just seemed so huge to me. Even my buddy who was standing 10’ behind me thought they were big. I went with a different iron.
@davepalmerton24294 жыл бұрын
I agree with Mark, it comes down to personal preference.
@davidcole23374 жыл бұрын
Very Good Test. Think all those clubs would be a nice upgrade for a Mid Handicapper who's clubs are 2-3 Years old.
@phillipbarrett64674 жыл бұрын
All the major brand irons perform basically the same. Getting fitted for shaft type, stiffness, length, loft, lie and grip is the important part for us mid-handicap players.
@what_the_fred3374 жыл бұрын
G710 looks amazing
@jamesandrews68354 жыл бұрын
This is your best video so far
@christianconrads74694 жыл бұрын
Miss some Mizunos 😕 But Great Video anyway. As usual i enjoy seeing Mark in the Videos. Keep it up Guys ✌
@lynnjones59044 жыл бұрын
The heavier feel is probably down to swing weight. Ping irons tend to be D0 whereas Callaway are D3 I believe. So slightly harder work to swing.
@CJ-1114 жыл бұрын
Mark seemed to be striking the ball consistently well in this video
@johnnywestall-eyre48604 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. I REALLY enjoyed that video, exactly the choices I had to make last year when choosing my irons. I had a back op a few years ago and can't hit 60 shots unless it's over 3 hours! Intensive testing is difficult so I had to hit my new irons in a gentle session. Just a few shots was enough to give me an overview and confirm initial inclinations as to which irons worked and which didn't. Came out with the F9s last year but nearly had the JPX hot metal. Those would have been great as I hadn't thought about your redundancy point - Mizuno irons don't go out of date like the main makers tie in ranges. Anyway great vid and how is Mark still off15!!?
@Joshundacuvva7 ай бұрын
Wish people would do reviews on a course where it actually matters
@joepawling47353 жыл бұрын
So to clarify you hit a 8 & 6 iron in the Mavrik versus 7 & 5 irons because of loft? I’m looking to get fitted and have narrowed down between the Ping G425/710 and Mavrik. I’m a 25 handicap trying to play more. I’m leaning toward the Ping because I like the woods better.
@BT622404 жыл бұрын
mark really should hit the Srixon Z585's...
@smileypureblood9304 жыл бұрын
The ping g710 is a super game improvement irons for high handicap players and people who need distance. It should of been the g410 or i500 or the i210 what Mark uses now.
@loicdesroches94414 жыл бұрын
The loft isn't the only factor in an iron. New irons have reduced the lofts, because of the lower CGs. The technology make it possible to reduce the 7 iron loft from 34 to 27 and still get the same height and flights. By reducing the lofts, you get more distance but with a shorter iron. But these aren't mid handicaps iron, they are game improvement irons. I thought mid handicap was more from 20-10
@jamiebanks82134 жыл бұрын
Just bought the cobra speedzone, had them fitted and they feel amazing!
@eniscec4 жыл бұрын
Marks swing looks great!! He will be upgrading to players irons soon.
@owenrivard88324 жыл бұрын
Enis Cecunjanin He just bought i210s not that long ago!!!!!
@JHOLE214 жыл бұрын
It's funny, I'm a mid handicapper plus 15 and I absolutely hate distance irons. I hate the off set. I hate how quick they can come off the face on the lower irons (9,pw). And I hate how big and bulky they are. I'm believing that mid handicap irons should not be chunky, ugly huge metal distance irons, they should be closer to playable irons, have a forged feel and let you know when you've hit it bad. If you're a mid handicapper than more than likely you wanna get lower and always being bailed out for hitting it out of the toe is not good for progression.
@GOLFADDICT654 жыл бұрын
going for an iron fitting next week....will try the Ping G710....Mavrik....cobra sz....thanks for a great review....cheers
@gregr.95474 жыл бұрын
I like your videos but I would recommend you mic-up when you have collaboration videos with other ppl.
@craigedga4r4 жыл бұрын
Mark is so used to Ping from previous / current clubs - habits and confidence!!! Nothing feels like a Mizuno???
@brianrizza20454 жыл бұрын
Mark was striping those mavriks
@malcolmsansom50264 жыл бұрын
Interesting vid I'm 13 handicap and thinking about some new irons theres such a big selection out there, for me I think it would be between a titleist iron and the mavric
@randycasanave5254 жыл бұрын
New Subscriber! And I truly enjoyed the content! I did have a questions since I am in the market for an iron/hybrid game improvement combo set. After watching the videos, and looking up some specs on the different makes and models, I have noticed an overlap with lofts between hybrids and irons. For example, If I were to purchase the Speedzones, their 6 Iron and 5 Hybrid both have 24 degrees of loft. Does that mean both clubs will go the same distance? If so, I would buy a set from P-7, 5H, 4H, 3H; correct?
@meese1k4 жыл бұрын
Hybrids and woods usually have a higher ball flight, and are easier to get in the air
@best4noles4 жыл бұрын
Would like to see your mid handicapper strike the 2018 Callaway X Forged. And new P790
@williamtodd14 жыл бұрын
Interesting video pal
@jacklong60034 жыл бұрын
Please get Mark to say Cobra correctly 🤣
@adriancox-thesantjordigolf36464 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Great swings today Mark.
@kennethrhodes97964 жыл бұрын
Mark's swing looks much improved!
@geobots654 жыл бұрын
What no Cleveland HB Turbo Irons
@markkirk30494 жыл бұрын
George Botsford or Cleveland uhx irons?
@acgolfwrx98524 жыл бұрын
You can get the AMT in the Cobra or any of the others to do the same job as the Ping
@randymahony81574 жыл бұрын
Good video. Okay what's next. Best player's distance maybe? I would like to see mizuno, Titleist in this.
@andrewward75754 жыл бұрын
Mark swings the club like a 9/10 handicapper easily. Can only imagine he struggles around the greens to be off 13. Nice feedback though 👍
@Nick-kq2sw4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the EXACT same thing.
@tonyrusso73024 жыл бұрын
Nice review but, why didn’t we see the Mizuno hot irons? I’d really like to get Mark’s take on those.
@seanhaynes46094 жыл бұрын
Mark is such a ping fanboy! 🤣🤣. Great vid fellas. Top notch as always!
@robh3164 жыл бұрын
If I was you Mark I'd deff put that mavrik 4 iron in the bag just because how straight you were hitting it
@greasby1golf8714 жыл бұрын
Mark loves to hold a finish their, Strike a pose 🤩
@markspriggs19624 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing to it 😜
@alansmith70714 жыл бұрын
What no Wilson's ?
@Jogaan034 жыл бұрын
Very confused by the distances, I am a 6 handicap and my 8 iron carries 140 yards, do these launch monitors give silly distances?
@stevenrushing3344 жыл бұрын
So if I buy mid handicap irons, will I always be a mid handicapper?
@chadode90484 жыл бұрын
Great review Mark! Gotta say...you may like the feel of the 710s...but I bet youd like the scores of those mavriks! Fwiw...the mavrik color scheme is a bit tacky...
@eashk1212able4 жыл бұрын
Just got back from my local shop and ordered some G710s! Was thinking Mizuno or Taylormade on the way there but I legit couldn’t put the G710s down
@coobay9784 жыл бұрын
Different lofts between brands doesn't matter. That's why you have a set. Only matters to people with big egos.
@georgealexander5324 жыл бұрын
Good video james and mark, like the video with game improvers can you do a video on the clubs that would be classed for the better players
@williamscott65674 жыл бұрын
Went for g700 walked out with g410 with Nippon pro reg shafts as the awt shaft was too heavy hit these straight as a arrow so far so good had rogue irons before these and struggled a bit
@danielwinterbottom55314 жыл бұрын
I have recently changed from callaway apexcf16 to cobra forged tech black which are lofted 1degree more so 31 for 7iron.There shorter in length so ive lost 5yrds however more spin and distance control. I find i dont get the low spin bombs like i did with callaway. Plus swing weight gone from e1 to d3
@petermolyneux95444 жыл бұрын
OK. I'm going to say it. How's he a 13 hcap? Same as me, but there the similarity ends both in terms of ball striking and distance.
@stevefroggett69244 жыл бұрын
Check out the recent vid on fixing Marks driver (might go some way into answering that). To say he’s tested all parts of the face on his lovely new Mavrik is a bit of an understatement. Fair play to Mark though, very chipper about it, I think I would still be sulking given how much drivers cost nowadays. Keep up the great work James!
@paulcox31604 жыл бұрын
Nicely done that was a fun one to watch
@gs0234 жыл бұрын
Wondering why Mizunos weren't included in this test. They offer mid handicap level irons.
@hectorhec59734 жыл бұрын
very clear what clubs you should game !!
@johnshaver60554 жыл бұрын
Went for a fitting I was playing Steelhead XR set. Tried numerous clubs. The fitter said my distance with all the clubs were about the same as the Steelheads but I was much more consistent with the Mavericks...well that is what I ended up with. I really liked the degree of loft seperation in the set. I bought the 6-AW. I also have a Rogue driver, Rogue 4wd Heaven wood (fav club) and 2 Mac Daddy wedges. I realize the lofts are stronger, so today I hit a 8 iron off a tee where I was using a 7 iron with the Steelhead..beautiful flight..going, going..SPLASH..guess a 9 iron the next time. Nice clubs. A little chunky, but good for an old duffer😁
@dsanta0144 жыл бұрын
I''m a high handicap, tested out the sim max and the Mavriks, my sims were going 180-185 but i had no feel ether, the Mavrik was low 170s but i had a lot more feel... still want to try the pings.
@jaysp19104 жыл бұрын
Think there is a lot of smoke and mirrors with irons at the moment. Playing a 5 iron with 6 stamped on it just causes issues further down the bag.
@collissmith31614 жыл бұрын
For a mid handicapper I think you should have gone with thr Mavrik Pro. Smaller head, their literature says its aimed at the mid handicapper (10-15 I think). Mavrik is a game improver and the Max a super game improver I think (I say this as i bought the Pro version just on testing, then found out they were aimed at mid handicapper and thought "oh poo"
@MichaelSmittySmithScottsdaleAz4 жыл бұрын
The pings look great in Black until you play with them for a month
@valeriotb25744 жыл бұрын
Thats a big issue in any black finish club...marks and scratches are very noticeable after just a few holes. I bought a 56o Cleveland Cg wedge in black finish...and after 1st round it was looking like a very used club.
@tonybruce47594 жыл бұрын
The G700 irons are the same.
@MikeDomi06184 жыл бұрын
Wheres marks mavrik video?
@kevinw5834 жыл бұрын
All I can say is what a pair...lol, excellent job guys
@jcjackson46264 жыл бұрын
No sport on tv for next few weeks - big up the You-Tubers!
@any1younger4 жыл бұрын
JC Jackson - there is ‘sport’ to be had still - taking the piss out of scousers...........
@Girasoli14 жыл бұрын
Get the Srixon Z585's in the mix... great "mid handicapper" clubs!!
@jaredmiles9814 жыл бұрын
first! Love your content James. lots of love from South Africa❤️
@justinstephenson93604 жыл бұрын
So the Mid Handicap player who plays i210s ( in theory not a mid HCP iron) is testing irons most of which look big chunky high handicap player irons. I also play i210s, very tempted to replace my 5i with the G710 with a similar loft. As for the irons: G710 really good numbers, maybe the head is a bit too long from heel to toe but very solid Cobra was way too low in the spin Sim just too inconsistent in distance and spin Mavrik ugly (the pro is OK) but I do not like a lot of off set. Too powerful, I think it is a set where the longest iron should be a 6i so you end up with 4 wedges, this feels like a set where buying after trying just one iron would be a mistake G710 & Mavrik are clearly the best of the bunch.
@brewssssss_4 жыл бұрын
Seem like all high handicap irons to me... Mids more i210, p790, apex, t200, stuff like that no?
@junhyungpark78994 жыл бұрын
mavrik irons are vvvvvvvvvvery great...impressive!
@lazza514 жыл бұрын
Had a fitting for Callaway Mavrik, was happy with the indoor results.. but ... took them out on the course and it was a huge NO... now getting fitted for Ping and Cobra ..
@christopherdanjou4 жыл бұрын
So funny I was going right to the 710 as well
@billybastar40224 жыл бұрын
It would have been nice to see the top line view at address, great video, just nitpicking 😁
@777shortino4 жыл бұрын
should club speed be the same for all irons or should it vary?
@Danny.A6653 жыл бұрын
No Wilson D7 / D7 forged ?
@Mrpizzaslice14 жыл бұрын
The mid handicapper swing is so much better looking than the "pro"
@danielmurphy82184 жыл бұрын
How did Mizuno get left out of that selection?
@paulmccall69774 жыл бұрын
What shaft did you have in the cobra sz ??????
@matthewjudd89014 жыл бұрын
Wilson d7 forged?
@Danny.A6653 жыл бұрын
Love these
@Snowman9K4 жыл бұрын
The first three shots with a club are the most telling anyway. If you have to take twenty shots in order to "get used to it", that's not how golf works. I'm not a fan of strong lofts because the shafts still need to be long enough to match the clubhead speed to the lofts. At least for me. I'd probably have mine bent weaker.
@rodneyhickman8254 жыл бұрын
I would go for the thinest top line
@alanpibworth38164 жыл бұрын
“Zee” where are do you think you are the United States of Yorkshire. In the UK we say “Zed”
@Sportstouring3 жыл бұрын
In Canada as well.
@allenwalker94124 жыл бұрын
Test the new CLEVELAND IRON'S
@lauriemorgan74633 жыл бұрын
WHY was Mavrik 7 iron not used. Distance is ball speed , not even looked at. ALL we want is review on Performance , Feel and Sound . Another review with bias against game improvement irons.