That’s right!

He's a really skilled mechanic as well as a rider/driver.

I was wanting to ask Joel if he can come up with some kind of mechanism even if it’s manual, don’t have to be electric to have like a stock system on the exhaust where it’s quiet and also have a system where you can open it up if you wanna run hard one side would have to happen open and close valve as the other. If you understand what I’m talking about I’ve seen it done on cars.

Thanks bro

Awesome bro

Thank you!! We will continue to do so

Thanks brother

Awesome bro!! I appreciate ya big time!!

Thank you very much Glen!

💪👍👍👍

Thanks brother

Absolutely man

Yes sir it is louder... but sure does sound great and performs amazing

​​@@RealTalkPowersports how about the MSc header on a stock muffler with a whiskey bent tip or similar, with dyno and tune for that. This is impressive but loud is a no go for many of us.

Yes I want to know this also

Are all the factory dyno pulls. Are they similar in pulls as horsepower

Thank u sir!

And yes we will eventually

I'LL be waiting. 🤗🤗

Thank ya sir

I appreciate ya bro!! Hopefully you can get a Overland soon

Yes sir

Totally agree , way to inexpensive for what it does ! These guys are amazing !

Nice.

Come on bro

The zforce 950 H.O. motor is supposed to make 90HP at the crank.. And yes we are working on big bore kits and cams

We will do headers for the U1000 in the future

Only thing we had to do was create a new Tune for the Header change and WOW!! But certainly no issues.. with the new Header tune the AFRs are in perfect safe operation.

Yes they ship all over the world.. have you Texted the store number? (662) 438-6407

Thank you sir

We will work towards developing Headers for it as well.

But I do not have a ETA on that just yet

@@RealTalkPowersports those gains are massive!!! That is incredible to get that much HP, and torque from just the header swap, and a new tune. I noticed that the AF is around 14 on WOT, Does Joel know how much more fuel you could add before the stock injectors max out? When I tuned My mustang I was shooting for 12.6 is on WOT. Love what you guys are doing, and it's awesome that you all are tackling the performance side of the machines as well. The fitment on the MSC headers looks very good too. Great job on building them!

Well heck..... I shave my head all the time! Doesn't help MY compression 😁

@@timleinart1645 Sounds like some high octane is needed. 😁

Yes sir.. we also are working on our Big Bore Kits right now.!

@@RealTalkPowersports Awesome, great to hear. It will be nice to see all that in action when the time comes. :)

this particular build is for sale on the showroom floor at MSC.. but maybe we can build one like it for some ride videos

We can ship it to you and you bring it to your dealer and ask them to install it for you. You can text (662) 438-6407 if you need assistance with order or more questions

We can do that one day

@@RealTalkPowersports thanks im putting my wish list together, trying to plan it all out.

Soon!

@@RealTalkPowersports Okay awesome thank you very much I appreciate it!

yes sir ill comment the updated link below.. we swapped to a new website and I'm having to update the links

teammscparts.com/products/team-msc-cforce-800xc-header-header-tune-combo?_pos=1&_sid=72aae1755&_ss=r

That would be nice

It will work for sure.. it will lower that temperature on your leg and add power but not close to the amount of if you do the full exhaust

No sir

We will be working on that but no ETA yet

These header won’t work in the ZFORCE .. the tune is also different

But we have a Tune and exhaust for your 800ex

Yes sir we will see in the future for sure

I’ve been waiting for a 600 header and exhaust. 🙏🏻

@@ec16445 Not sure how much of a power increase it will be in the 600, but there should be a gain plus the exhaust temp should be way down getting rid of the cat in the header.

I showed that in this video and also have another video with the stock results and original tune

You can watch this video and my original CFORCE 800 Tune video and compare all of the graphs

I need to look up translation brother

They try their damnedest to stop people from modifying their exhausts here in NY as well. But people don't give a crap what the money thieving politicians say. So they do it anyway. There's no public trails here so any trails there happens to be are all owned by someone and they usually don't care if your machine is loud as long as you're not destroying anything. The same goes for it being your own land. They can't do anything about it regardless how much they dislike it. :)

@@Slane583 that’s how it should be but here in NH there starting to kick people out of places an making it harder an harder to ride unless you own land maybe one day things will get better for us riders

@@nickoli62 Indeed, there's not really many places to ride around here either unless you own some land. People who have been willing to let riders go on their trails are slowly blocking them off because of idiots going around vandalizing things. I'm fortunate enough to have my grandfathers hunting camp that links up to a dirt service road owned by the agricultural institute in the area. There are also other trails branching from it that are owned by a large maple farm which don't seem to mind us being on them. Our only issue is that's really the only place for us to ride and riding the same trails gets boring so we don't go anymore.

You are trying to compare the 650 crank hp rating to the cfmoto numbers at the wheel 🤔

I hate to tell you, but even the can am 1000 atv models you will see at least a 20% drivetrain loss to the wheels in power. 20-25% is the general rule. This is speaking on the (100% stock). Once you start adding mods that can change the results obviously.

There are Tons of CFORCE 800 owners out there that just didn’t purchase the cforce 1000 and want more power

@@RealTalkPowersports My thought is i'd just buy the 1000 to get more power than spending all that on the 800 but i get it. Thanks!!

Rip off?

You certainly get what you pay for sir