Who's in love with this kind of drum sound?

Video on cheap drum microphones? Yes please.

Fantastic! Kristian knows how to get great drum sounds! Excellent video my friend!

Video on cheap drum microphones? Yes please, do a video for mortals

Video for budget microphones from your perspective would be great. ;)

man this is spot on.. as a drummer and engineer trhough 40+ years this is probably one of the most "to the point" about drum sound. no1: the drummer.. 95% of the sound comes from the drummer. At one occasion I had the opportunity to test my drums fully mic'ed up at a large event, using me and 2 other drummers. Same everything else. Even sticks. The difference was MIND blowing! The sound engineer almost went crazy.. he also learned somethng :-) That changed my whole perspective on drum sound. LIve or in the studio. I will though say that even small rooms are fine to make organic drums in (off course large rooms are easier for this purpose :-) ).. just requires a lot of experimenting with mic placement and types of mics.. and a few mix tricks.

Big drums, big sound.

I'm always impressed how good the videos from Kohle are! His courses brought our productions to the next level.

I'm not an expert in recording perfect sounding drums, all info here is super valuable. But this thing about the room, I think it should be reconsidered. Great sounding drums were recorded in small, not even studio rooms. Just thinking about at least 2 Pink Floyd albums recorded on Gilmour's boat, Foo Fighters recording in Dave's garage, Brothers in Arms recorded in a 6x8m room....the list can continue. The main thing is that who is recording/mixing is maybe more important than the room itself. Just my thoughts :)

Im still waiting for this session to download! I loved mixing Mamae!

Love those nohype mics. There’s nothing I tried where the LRM-2 didn’t work

Drum tuning video PLEASE!🙏🏻

love the passion for mixing you have kohle, its inspiring to see the same as you do for guitars, brilliant, love the content, youtubes hardest working tonehound :)

Great video! And thanks to you I found Alligator Wine. Whoa, what a band!

Thanks to the way you explain it's very easy to understand everything about these videos

I love his talk about drums.

Mics...SeElectronics v7x...vbeat...and a D6 or Beta 52 in kick. Ribbon ( I get an awesome sounding natural room from a very inexpensive MXLR144 $100 us w/shock mount) for the room. First Eq moves are moving the mics around...manipulate that proximity effect to work for you. .

I love the sound of the snare and the size and the tight "ringing" in the room

Those OH’s sound like room mics crazy. I’m not personally a fan but your the man Kohle.

Well done sir. I agree that with your opinion that the drummer is the most important component. Having a solid drummer behind the kit will make or break the recording process. And I cannot express how important tuning is. Sounds like you are making more drum tuning video's. Until then here are some tips to anyone that reads this. Bass Drum: to be brief you want to do LPP ( Lowest Pitch Possible ) tuning. And usually you want the resonant head to be slightly higher then the batter head. And have a mic port on the reso to allow the drum to breathe, plus it helps with microphone placement ( Obviously ) and if you need to put a towel or the like inside the drum. ALWAYS use a impact patch on the batter head. Think NIKE and JUST DO IT! For a more attack sound use Wood beaters. Hard plastic is a good second choice but depending on certain variables the plastic can get tacky and actually start sticking to the head and or impact patch. It can get hot from playing and will start sticking over time. Use hard felt beaters if you want a more "WET" sound. It still sounds great but will have a little less attack but can give you more boom in yo room! Use a 2ply batter head and a one ply but thicker reso head. I do not like the EMAD bass head. I have never been able to get the sound I want on my gear with them but have heard them on other drummers kick and liked it. But just not my thing. Try a Aquarian Superkick 1 or Superkick 2. But any two ply head with a minimal dampening ring should work. Bottom line experiment and find what works on the gear you have! Toms: Two ply batter side, one ply reso side. Again have the reso side slightly tighter then batter, although you can get longer sustain if equal or even a bit looser then batter. I like coated on tom batters but as a alternative I get REMO pinstripes on occasion to change up the sound. Plus they are super easy to tune, can take a beating and can give you super punchy tom sounds if that's what you want. I have been playing for 20+ years but really did not start focusing on tuning skills until 5-10 years into playing. And as much as I think My drum tuning skills are you can always improve and learn. Never turn down good or unique advice. Unless you are dick head elitist. Alright that was not as brief as I could have been but I could have continued ha ha! Look forward to more drum video's my German friend. Prost!

Many mics will work in that room with that kit. Nice room.❤

ok, for over 20 years i m on Logic pro..i like that drummer, but it really comes to life, when you take the overdrive plugin, goto 20khz and set overdrive to about 20%...i dont know how cubase would react, but Logic users, please try the overdrive on drums...its fascinating and i dont know why ;)

Cheap Drum Mikes -> Yes!

Thank you once more for passing on your knowledge to us! I absolutely agree with you hypothesis about cheap (or rather affordable) mics - please make a video about that! Keep up the great work! Grüße aus Schleswig-Holstein! P.S.: Stereo Wurst :D :D :D

What I/we did is record as dry and possible and try to add room later via a room IR. Our drum "studio" is a small cabin in the woods, that is simply what we have and I have to work with what we got. I currently experimenting with the specifics of the processing. I literally mounted the room mics on the door to the cabin, and run simulated the reverb/room on those mics with a VST :D.

Remember, when it comes to the drum kit there is no rule that says Every drum you are playing has to come from the same manufacturer. This is especially true in the studio setting. You may have a ludwig snare, a pearl kick and some Tama Tom's. These choices should be made based on the shells and drum shell tone, not their brand name. The same goes for cymbals and microphones.

I wish I had figured out earlier how much more important overheads and room mics are in a mix than close mics. It is totally what gives your kit it’s character in a mix. But having said that, it is the sum of all of your mics, room and close mics, that allows for greater flexibility in a mix.

5:49 is so important! Thanks kohle, great video!

The best videos/sounds!

Sounds so good. Love this! 🤘🔥

Last time my band recorded drums, my friend who worked out of this local studio used like 24 mics. Top and bottom of toms, several room mics in varying distances. 4 on the bass drum alone. Stereo, summed and mono over heads. Using mic bleed as reverb it was rad to experience. I could dm a track if you'd like

This is a great video as usual my friend.

Great video Kristian, thank you. Awesome sounding room tracks. Can't wait to have the tracks to play around with them. I like the Korneff Talkback Limiter a lot. It's a great color box and adds so much excitement.

Schließe mich an, 'n Video mit günstigen Mikros wäre mega interessant.

Man appreciate all the gems your dropping brother. This is great stuff.

Definitiv, günstige Mikros für eine komplette Abnahme wäre geil. Close Mikes, Overheads, Roooooooom... Mir fehlt da noch was gutes für HiHat, Ride und Snare ;-)

I saw a video in which instead of trying control the tom resonance in the mix, you tube the lowers different from the heads (or something, idk how to tune drums). Thought it was interesting as it gave almost a completely different sound to them, it didn’t just change the resonance

Hi there ! I really do recognise myself in the way you work (basically : Shit in, shit out, not fix in the mix) About Alligator Wine new release, that's great news, really loved the last record (especially "Reptile", the sort of blend between stonner/old school rock and the kinda post-rocky feel is just terrific), please, tell me there's more like that to come, that would be a blessing ! About ribbon mics : any thoughts on the RM-BIV russian handmade mics ? They're really cheap and I've been told they were pretty good, if you ever got your hand on a pair of those, let me know your feelings !

Amazing Content. Love it

Amazing content as usual. Kohle delivers!

Sounds awesome brother. Lots of great information. Thank you.

Really awesome and helpful video! Thank you so much Kristian!

Have you ever seen the behind the drummer spaced overheads + front of kit Blumelein pair that Abini sums all together for his overhead sound? Your wurst setup reminded me of it😅

Stereo wurst sounds excellent. I've had good results with a GAP stereo ribbon mic too.

I like what you said about recording in a swimming pool. I remember the band "The Haunted" recorded the drums in a swimming pool and they sounded killer. The album was "Unseen"

Waiting for the academy! Great video thanks

Cheap microphones video NOW. And not just for drums, we need guitars and vocals too!

And please always use brand new drumheads!!!! Great video Kohle!

Can you make a video talking about drums phase alignment? Thanks for the knowledge you share kindly.

a very good video, you've done a great job Kristian.

I can do really unimpressive and fake sounding drums with only samples. Do you think, this would be a great idea for a tutorial?

I always put my like before watch the video. No matters what, alway is great.

LOVE THIS ! Can you make a video on double miking a guitar cab and how to keep them in PHASE!!?

HIT the drummer! If you want to find out how is he sounds. Best way to find good sounding drummer...

I can’t do a recording without crushed room mics 😅 Great video, and cool sounding room Kohle!

Thank you! ☺️🙏🏻

Walnut birch baby!

Great stuff. I also like stereo room mic setupss even in VST / sampled drums. And yes plz to a cheap mic vid. \M/

Very nice video, thank you!!!!!!! Keep up the good work.

what a great sound

Ja, bitte eins zu Billigmikros! :)

If you have a drummer who can count, I'd like an IR of him ! Thanks !

Magnifique !!!!!!!!!

Yes pls cheaper mic on drums and how to mic for metal, i have a problem with insanely loud hihat as someone who start recordinh acoustic drums after years recording midi from electric drums. Ah finally my old yamaha recording custom acoustic drums is being used again, and feels much better than playing with a rubber electronic drum lol

00:45 for a while i thought it is EZdrummer Pop/Rock drumkit default preset

I always just use one mic to record drums. If it’s good enough for Darkthrone it’s good enough for my throne

Thanks for sharing so much knowledge! :-)

I always struggled to tune my 13" Tom. Well, what can I say, I'm just a drummer 😂.

Hell Yeah fantastic Tips 😎

Kohle really reacts to every comment.... true respect! Please one about budget mics! What do you think about the thomann ribbons? Thx in advance, m

Just as I thought Did he forget this is the roomy clip? Boom there it is

Tom not tuning right? Take the hads out place the tom on a flat surface as a granite or marble countertop shine a light inside the drum and from the outside check for light escaping from the bottom bearing edges turn it around and look mark where the light come out the there is a cheap way to fix it but is not exactly "the proper way " but it works and its cheap Glue 4 sheets of 220 sand paper to a flat surface like the kick drumhead box or a plywood sheet with spray on glue. place the tom on top and sand the tom by turning arround on top of the sand paper (lightly a couple half turns at the time)wipe the edges and check it on the table with the light until either the light its even or there is almost no light escaping Or the proper professional way its again sand the edges on the flat sanpaer then with re_cut the bearing edges with a table router Your welcome

Drums and cheap mics, I'd love to watch that. If you make this video, could you please include the pyle 57 clone? Also, great video.

Good breakdown. Nice! A Yamaha fan. I’ve got a Hybrid Oak. I also have 12-13 rack toms, but experienced the opposite of what you did 😅You being from Germany, I’m surprised you never tried Sonor. Although I love my Yamaha’s, I’d love a set of SQ2s. Video on drum heads please! Have a good weekend :)

Wondering how I can get your drum tracks. I have subscribed. Thanks.

Top!

You just changed my perspective on some shit and got me thinking

Best comment in the Video? "Bing bang bong bung" @ 3:17 :-D

I'd like to know how to handle situation where band is playing live in a bad room, so there is bleed and no room mics, only a single overhead to complement the close mics. How to make it sound good in that situation ?

How are you orienting the NoHype ribbons...?...they all sound amazing...!!!

Wow! Pretty impressive the strategy of the progressive distance placement of microphones as you get away from the drum kit. I would love to have your input on bass drum mics. Now I just have the kit from Thomann and I was thinking of getting something nicer for the kick. I like the Audix D6, it seems to have a ton of bass, but I am a bit scared that it will compromise the attack or more "tup-tup" sound of the kick. I hope you understand what I mean :) Also, if anyone here has one, I would love to hear your opinions on this mic. Dankeschöööön!

Don't mind me ...just going to sample all of this. :)

Please add show on kick drum tuning

Sounds great! I definitely got some new ideas for my room mics thank you!! I need to experiment with step one a little more.. ugh haha. Question though, I'm curious why you didn't use a subkick with this setup?

Cheaper tom mic mics is something I’d like to hear your opinion!

I took out my 13" tom too. Something about them is ridiculous to keep tune properly.

YES PLEASE DO A VIDEO WITH CHEAP MICS!!!!

The best of budget mic's would make a good video

Man. I’d love to see what you do to vsti drums!

Hey have you ever tried the beat buddy pedal ? Its live drums recorded into a pedal. I'm sure you have no need for it but pretty cool practice tool. Love the john bonham ludwig kit sound.

Recording with cheap mics would be interesting to hear!

I'm curious about the role of the Gobos in this scenario, since you say in the beginning: rip off absorption material! Particularly, since you also stress figure eight pattern of ribbons, as the Gobos would remove reflections?!. Particularly curios about this for the stereo Wurst mics. Haven't seen a stereo Wurst, but it sounds great! Thanks Kohle!

Yeeeesss!! Genius! Get a better drummer! I can’t imagine how anyone in the world could not like or appreciate your knowledge.

..Interested in cheap Microphone Video! :) Greetings from Dortmund

When does the Jensen speaker comparison coming up?

Hell yeah on the cheap mic vid

Are you hardware processing any of these mics for capture...?

That setup though, holy fak

How do you get your hi-hat under control? With the overhead microphones as well as with the snare microphones I always have too much dispersion from the hi-hat.

You rule Kohle! Love the video. I want a pair of the sE ribbons! =) Kohle, I once heard of a technique, where you try and match the close mics with where the drums are in the overhead stereo image, panning the close mics to match and hit in the same spot. Have you ever heard or tried this technique?