Someone definitely won't abuse this new rule to its maximum capacity. Twitch is very good at regulating their rules. Right guys?

And we finally get the reason lud is going back to twitch

It was absolutely a necessary change. Asmongold’s editor tested out what a brand new account belonging to someone claiming to be 13 would have on their homepage, and >75% of the streams were topless. Until someone fixes the problem that a significant portion of twitch users are horny losers, streamers are going to keep exploring the fact that a significant portion of twitch users are horny losers for profit. Controlling when and how streamers are allowed to exploit people being horny on main is way easier than banning it entirely. As the record shows, this’ll happen regardless of how strict the policy is, and they can’t catch everyone. Allowing people to have more risqué content as long as it’s labelled should allow them to keep it from showing to minors, which is the real goal here. It also puts the onus of blame off twitch without losing viewers. If a steamer doesn’t label something, that’s on them. If a kid lies and says they’re 18, also on them. It’s also way easier than treating the porn-addled brains of the people who keep these streams getting high numbers.

I just wanna say, I love how candid ludwig is with his audience. Especially that bit at the end there.

They must have done this proactively before Ludwig returns

Unlike “Ludwig”, mogul mail NEVER disappoints

Wubbys reaction was iconic

Twitch drawing "clear boundaries" and then banning dozens of streamers following those boundaries TO THE LETTER, sounds about right

Twitch policy be like: "Giving birth live on stream is strictly prohibited, please do not give birth live on stream, this is your final warning".

What twitch does need to go ahead and do is make straight 18+ categories if they wanna cut down on moderation cause the mix of standard art streams and nsfw art streams has been causing a lot of issues for artist in general. EDIT: Overall it was an extremely rushed change that they need to clarify and work on a lot more. 2ND EDIT: Welp RIP this I guess since it just got revoked

If they are gunna do this, they should be very strict with labelling this kind of content correctly, permaban if you get it wrong would be very understandable.

I think at the end of the day it comes down to what you said at the end of the vid- Twitch wants a way to "self-report" and mark yourself 18+ so they can go to advertisers and say "you don't have to worry about accidentally popping up on something inappropriate, we've got all those streams sectioned off over here and won't run your ads on them." They just want a way to easily section off what is and isn't brand safe to boost advertiser confidence

twitch never fails to inspire controversy

We need to get a male streamer doing this shit to #1 on Twitch.

They reversed the policy. Twitch is a true gaming streamer site seeing how fast they did this speed run reversal.

Seems like they completely reverted.

Another problem with the new change: the past hours a fckton of art streamers got mass reported and banned despite completely adhering to the TOS (fully nude but not sexual drawing (now allowed), completely SFW art, blank canvas etc.). I hope they get this figured out

Excellent news for Jerma who will no longer have to fear getting banned for being nude on stream.

Ludwig returns to twitch around the same time as nudity being aloud. Coincidence? I think not

And they did a full reverse

The thing about Vtubers going fully nude was just an obvious rule break because Twitch rules on clothing (which didn't change with this update) already and still do apply to them. From the attire section of the rules that didn't change: "Augmented reality avatars that translate real-life movement into digital characters are subject to this standard, as is cosplay and other costumes. For details on how this policy applies to IRL, outdoors, and body art, please continue reading."

I think the whiplash between SFW and NSFW videos/streams is a bit more relevant to Twitch than on KZfaq. NSFW stuff 100% exist on KZfaq, and to be fair by volume there is probably more of it on KZfaq. It's really the ability for an NSFW stream with suggestive themes and another SFW stream to be right next to each other, just because they are under something as broad as "art" or "just chatting" is notable.

Twitch - We have officially allowed all the stuff irl streamers where already doing while successfully banning all the artists that followed our new tos, great job to us.

I think Lud forgot to censor the 2 clip at 4:30

Excited to see how mogul moves utilizes these new rules in upcoming events! #luddong

might have missed a censor at 4:33

One key difference is on KZfaq to watch 18+ content you have to be logged into an account with the age restrictions turned off and if you aren't logged in the thumbnails are blurred and hidden. On twitch you can just pop into an incognito tab and enter the arts category and instantly get hit with full frontal. Then to enter the stream you just have to click the "show mature content" button and you are in, no account needed. I recognize that its not THAT big of a barrier of entry, but it would be good if twitch at least implemented automatically blurring the thumbnail so i can browse the art category in public without feeling gross.

4:30 u missed a lil something there at the bottom 💀

I’m shocked this made the news on twitch more than the fact that the website is totally SHUTTING DOWN in South Korea 😂 Twitch has been forced to completely cut out a *massive* demographic due to the country’s ridiculous lack of regulation on ISPs.

3:24 the delivery of that line was too funny

Hearing Wubby screaming in this video was a welcome surprise. That made me laugh so hard.

My friend and I were scrolling through Twitch's art section yesterday. It was wild. Everyone wanted to push the limits of these new rules.

wow Pan Piano catchin strays from Ludwig

Twitch be like "here's our little finger" and streamers just take the whole arm

congrats for getting this approved, lud! were so proud of you and cant wait for the upcoming streams!

4:32 LMAO THE THUMBNAIL UNDERNEATH THE CLIP

Coming home to see hentai being drawn on Twitch was not on my list of "expected things" today.

I think the difference between whats on KZfaq vs what's on Twitch is that Twitch does not hide it's 18+ content. If you go to Twitch right now, I guarntee your homepage will have an 18+ streamer on there. I only follow a few regular streamers there, and even I see it. And before anyone tries the "they're showing up because you follow them xD," I tried it in an incognito tab without logging in, and it was there too. If you want to find stuff like that kind of content on KZfaq, you kinda have to know it's there and go out of your way to find it. On Twitch, it's on the home page.

R.i.p

It is a super weird step. Especially since moderation requirements are rising sharply with the DSA from the European Union, granted they have like 4-5 months to implement, compared to KZfaq/TikTok who have till January. Good for Twitch to only have 30m users when the numbers where asked for.

Regardless of the intent, its kinda crazy putting nudity on a site that has a hugeeeeee amount of minors on it.

I see why lud wants to stream on Twitch again

I think you missed the point. The thing about KZfaq is that you have to specifically search it. You can't accidentally find that stuff. This isn't an apples to apple comparison. THEN when you search you are greeted with "sign in to KZfaq" cuz it wants to make sure your 18. On twitch, no sign in or on a 13 + account if u just happen to click the art section, all of a sudden ur greeted with breasts, furry c**is and all sorts of stuff. People not familiar with twitch ain't gonna know art = 18+ section. And that's just the art category we didn't mention just chatting or ASMR...

The first one was actually pulling out of Korea

Hey Ludwig, there's some inappropriate art starting at 4:32, would suggest to blur that one! No need to thank me lmao

Artistic nudity is only gonna be 1% of it, the rest is just free trials to their onlyfans.

My boi taiga making a cameo at 5:15 🥲

New twitch policies are fine, as long as the streams are marked as 18+ and show a pop up before you enter saying “mature sexual content” and you have to click agree to bypass

I can smell the double standards coming from a mile away

there's no way this video doesnt get demonetized

7:45 "Everybody who is at the top will have to go top less" 😭😭

Dan Clancy once again gave the best type of update. Twitch of course is a bureaucracy when it comes to coding so it will probable take a month or more to add the NFSW toggle, but once done they should turn it on by default. Will solve a lot of these problems and essentially work as 18 plus. Took em long enough but as usual Dan Clancy is helping to save Twitch.

I think making it so streams that are 18+ cant get ads. That way it would discourage abuse of these systems rather than encourage it. As shitty as being demonitized is on YT for swearing and other adult content, it does help curb that behavior making the platform a better place, even just marginally. As is, it's unsustainable, and a matter of time before it becomes a cam site.

lud you should edit this out 4:34 so youtube dosn't ban you😅

It's pretty much up in the air whether the usual gaming and chit-chat scenes stay king, or if racier stuff starts climbing up.

3:25 i like the slight pause he has thinking about something to add to that 😂😂

does this mean Jerma finally can do the "Show Ass" stream????

Always appreciate your level-headed / well-reasoned takes.

6:28 bruh those thumbnails 🤣🤣 "this isn't yoga!"

It’s a good move. Women’s bodies have long been demonized, and kudos to twitch for refusing to bend to the people who want to control women

Amazon : We will censor all our published games to don't allow nudity or skimpy outfits Also Amazon : Twitch now allows nudity

yall ever buy sunny d in bulk and notice that the bottles are always dirty? not only that, but I swear there's like little bits of orange sludge that float around in the bottle, its gross

Thanks for the recommendations Lud

Cant wait for the ball cam

The major controversy i saw was that a female streamer would have a nudity slip get banned for 2 days or a week then a guy with same or similar issues woul dget month or 3 moths or more

Thank you for enlightening me Lud. I will go to these channels and sub so i can constanly be shocked at what im seeing and nod disapovingly. Also Art doesnt get many views unless a big streamer suddenly does it.

it took a couple masked twitch streamers for kick to win. like how kick has to use AWS for their streaming capabilities.

People complaining that Twitch’s rules are opaque and are applied inconsistently When twitch actualy fixes it

Dammit Twitch! I thought we were making progress

I’m so glad you covered this because I was fucking flabbergasted when I heard about this 🤣

definitely still up on the homepage. i went to just chatting and the first three streams had asses in the thumbnail

*It's only a matter of time before Jakapiz gets on twitch now.*

Now twitch is filled with twerking comps labeled as 18+ twerk off/twerk asmr

only difference between kick and twitch is the gambling 💀

Akane Sensei making it to Ludwig's youtube home page is top tier and shows that he has been grinding learning Japanese. もっと頑張れ、Ludwigさん！

You know, I thought the thumbnail was clickbait, but here we are

Several women I follow on Twitter have already called out that this makes their lives harder as people say "pop one out" or "twerk" in their chats. They said this change just encourages that sort of mindset and behavior which I think is a valid complaint, personally.

I getting a headache everytime Twitch is in drama

Glad to see Ludwig recognising Pan's incredible guitar skills

Ludwig search history is wild

Well they banned it right back yesterday

I know it’s a low bar but I am actually happy that twitch at least addressed it without there being a huge controversy that forced them to address it.

Ludwig got me saying “Oh shit that’s crazy wonder what Ludwig had to say about it” then looking up if he has a video on it.

6:29 that transition gave me whiplash 😂😂

Art category is going hard right now lmfaooo. Honestly as long as I'm not getting jumpscared by two big bazookas on the front page, I'm all for it.

I think your account should need to be 18+ to view any stream with the label 18+. And this type of content should only be allowed when you have the label 18+ and otherwise be against ToS. They should also do what youtube has done, where you need to verify your age to be able to view 18+. Otherwise I think this is "fine", so you can choose to see this or not. Obviously it would be easier to not allow this. But that wouldnt be a long term fix, as people always find loopholes. Naruto watchparties will now become H-watchparties...

KZfaq is all audiences, whereas Twitch is undeniably a mostly younger audience, many of which are 12 year old kids. KZfaq, you have to go pretty far to find it, whereas in twitch just recently all you had to do was click the "just chatting" and you saw full nudity recently. Not to mention, the interactivity; it's an incredibly disingenuous comparison to compare a video to a livestream where you're interacting with kids. And while half the blame falls on Twitch (and KZfaq) the other half falls on the professionals doing this work; the streamers. They are self-employed, and that is what they do for a living, They're sole proprietors of their own business, they should be held to the same responsibilities as you would expect anybody else to be. There should not be cam content on a site with no age verification, and that shoudl not be a controversial take. And we also shouldn't pretend it's absolutely 0 fault of the creators doing this. Streaming is a valid career, but that also means you have the same basic responsibilities you'd expect anybody else who is self-employed and operates their own business to have.

I think its better than kids being inspired by andrew tate to be sexist, racist, homophobic and transphobic. I would rather kids be able to be mature enough to understand the sexism in pornographic content rather than them being sexist and looking for that content anyway. TLDR Nudity isnt that big of a deal

saw someone taking full advantage of this policy and showing NSFW anime art and was suppressing the chat, anyone who spoke out against it was being banned or messaged deleted. ETC, Someone people have ZERO shame and this is gonna be the worst. Edit: I saw ludwig talk about youtube, I would say that is L take since there is youtube kids for kids

Definitely something that needs blurring bottom middle at 4:32 💀

They immediately rescinded this and went back on the nudity policy to strictly forbid anything of that kind.

twitch never fails to disappoint

The ceo is cringe the old one was beter =)

Of course Ludwig brings up Team KZfaq vs. Team Twitch in Dodgeball LOL

Thanks for the YT recomendations Lud!

By streamers, you mean women streamers

...and now we know why Mogul decided to get back on Twitch lol

Perfect length for ads

They rolled the changes back!!

I watch Charlie’s videos for the jokes and fun he has making videos and the metaphors he uses to describe things are godly. I watch Ludwig to get to the point of the drama that’s going on 😂