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Just as a small reminder: The Forgotten Realms: Calishite, Chondathan, Turmish, Rashemi, etc., you get the point --> *2nd Ed AD&D Regional Sourcebooks (released between 1987 and 1999), 3rd Ed D&D Sourcebooks like Races of Faerun (2003)* Greyhawk: Oeridian, Flan, Suloise, Baklunish, Rhennee and Olman --> *World of Greyhawk Fantasy Game Setting (1983)* Eberron, the descriptions of the people living in each of the five nations and those of the people living on the continent of Sarlona show that not all humans look alike or share the same customs. --> *Campaign Setting (2004)* Mystara: Similar to Earth --> *Regional Sourcebooks (1987 to 1991)* Birthright: Anuirean, Brecht, Khinasi, Rjurik, Vos --> *Birthright Campaign Setting (1995)*

They come and help and humans give thanks by giving grain......I don't think that's enslavement at this point.

That's not racist. But if you said you didn't have any human friends, then we'd all suspect your might be.

Yeah, my best friend is a human...

Don't mean to sound racist myself, but some of my favourite slaves are human.

Thank god. If you said you were friends with Elves we might have issues.

Heimskr, Prophet of Talos Around elves, watch yourselves!

Chaotic Good, murder hobos.

MMMMMmmmmmm, no too sure about that friendo

Made me think Custer’s last stand was a dm who thought we’re done here.

@@tyler58701 There's an untapped gold mine for "History From the DM's Perspective".

Good

I completely agree.

aFistfulofDice that is a good point that I've never thought about.

Yes especially with the higher ages. It makes the backstory much more difficult imo, like why is my elf just get started at age 200? and furthermore how is he lvl 1 still?

William Bogar Because elves are lazy tree-hugging degenerates. lol

Or go Guild Artisan background. You spent the working days of those 200 years perfecting your craft, suddenly your Elf makes the best wine on this side of the material plane, who is going to ask you to prove it? There is a campaign going on, can't be wasting time making alcohol to satisfy the semantic arguments of a sceptical party can you?

All the most boring people I know are humans too

@777rick777 That's that famed human versatility for you

I love playing humans. All the most gullible people I know are humans!

You obviously haven't met my boy IBM Watson.

I don't know, humans are just so... human.

Michael Doherty have you seen Australia? That’s a place where there’s a ton of crazy monsters humans live around.

Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well. Glad to see Im not the only one who prefers IG over the blueberries.

@@Xaxp I like space marines (not smurfs though... I hate smurfs) but I like them more as a rarity. I use them as like an elite squad rather then the entire army.

@Lord Admiral Spire ya I know. It's more hatred for fun rather then anything serious.

Sounds familiar....

I'm guessing one of your antagonists is a white Orc and a Dragon in a mountain?

Why does the halfling need to wear rouge? Why not some eyeliner? Foundation? 😂😂😂

come to think of it, the 13 fighters should have demolished any dragon.

The fight over a rock... before the fight over a ring.

Lemon Elemental beautiful post. Whole heartedly agree. Besides, to me, most fantasy races are aspects of human personality and different tropes. Thus the decision to play one of those races is often just to adopt that certain aspect for RP. As a guy who works in retail and plays video games and tabletop games in his off time, playing a female human sorceress who draws magic from arcane runes scrawled onto her body by a draconic cult who captured her as a young girl, is pretty fantastic and exotic, playing a human barbarian who drinks ale and loves prostitution and solves everything with violence or the threat of violence is enough of an alien concept when compared to my day to day life that it doesn't need to be a eleven sorceress, or a 1/2 orc barbarian. It really doesn't help that most races are just humans with extra features anyway. Elves are pointy eared people, dwarves, gnomes, and half longs are just short people, tieflings are horned people, 1/2 orcs are green people and dragonborn are just scaled people.

Humans are the "Hold my beer" race.

Humans are cultural, diplomatic, warlords, business-minded, innovative. Other races can be too, but in lore other races tend to only stick to one of these spheres, neglecting others.

I role play an individual and not a stereotype of class or race. My ability to rp something realistic and consistent is helped by not having to play someone who is entirely alien.

Yeah the other races would look at a great evil and think "ehh I'll just go to sleep and wait for it to blow over" but humans would look at same great evil and think "KILL IT WITH FIRE BEFORE IT LAYS EGGS, BLOW IT BACK TO THE DEPTHS OF THE VOID FEOM WERE IT SPAWNED FROM"

KageRyuuUji my kantaaa

Humans get laughed at, regardless of what their stats are.

Those sound like elves and dwarves who are actually different, unique and interesting.

Yeah, what Feather said. I sorta hate the assertion that all Dwarves are stereotypes of these ungraceful, hard-core drinking, loud mouthed, Scottish, boisterous numbskulls, oh who all happen to be master smiths? What about the Elven Ranger bowslinger (I bet she's great at weaving bracelets out of blades of grass, and fucking pottery), I hear that's never been done before. I'd take the piss out of the angery Half Orc Barbarian if it wasn't for the serious mechanical benefits that come with the racial traits. How about a genuine _character_ every now and then? Like the Dwarf who took their racial and Guild Artisan proficiencies in Brewers tools and Cook's utensils, but they're a fucking Cleric of the Forge domain who "don't want to be faffin' around wit no anvil". Literally fighting the stereotype on that one.

weeks? The initial character creation takes like 20 minutes. If you want to research a foreign culture or if your using wotc product and want some game history add maybe a couple hours, and If you draw your own portraits maybe you never get it right, but some draft exists within a day or two.

Perfectly examplifies how boring playing a human is to some players like me XD

The human music is a Rick and Morty reference.

I agree fellow human.

Ahh, a human humor! Of course I understand human humor. Let me make a human laughter. Oblog, oblog, oblog! Hmm? What with the human long face?

But also, I love the ideas of a race “enlightening” the lower races. Maybe instead of the elves, it is the gnomes that taught humans magic, or that humans are just dire halflings, and as such halfling and human culture could be one in the same. Maybe humans are the cultural chameleons of dnd and simply adapt to their surroundings, or build their own culture from parts of other races.

Actually, I the Shannara books, elves and fey way predate humans. The second book, Elfstones of Shannara spells out most of the elvish history.

Jeffrey Anderson Well, that is another fault on the show then.

The bamboozler will not become the bamboozled.

Humanity in my DMS games: they are nearly dead cause the gods willed it Me a human who's goal in life is to kill or atleast scare the daylights out of the gods that did this: *exist* The creatures the dm makes: *confused, scared, and slightly aroused screaming intensifys*

AGrumpyPanda yeah, I always felt like the human race was way more exemplary of the chaotic alignment than most other races. Sure we have our lawful societies that can exist for a while, but just from our world we can see that humans are pretty dang chaotic. Never got why elves were always placed as the chaotic race (besides being the opposite of dwarfs) when they are always depicted as halving the magnificent kingdoms and grand traditions, while humans meanwhile are trying to conquer and change is the only constant

l3054 my guess is that it's the final remnant of their humanity before they transcend their origin entirely.

Vivec is both, or neither possibly could be considered non-binary/genderqueer.

I was going to ask you to elaborate on your previous point, but now I have all the answers I need. You are an alt-right type, so your first comment meant you don't think trans people and non-binary are real or deserve human dignity. This was given away by the "social justice" dogwhistle, and that you are a Sargon of Akkad fanboy.

That's not remotely true. That is the kind of thing that was going to make me say before that you don't know much about gender issues. The activists in the LGBT community have never made that claim. The only time I hear that claim is by someone with transphobic views like you. You folks like to say " they didn't exist until I heard about it". That sounds completely ignorant lol. Gay people existed before gay people came out. Trans people existed before trans people came out. It is basic logic to realize that in a society that oppresses those who defy cultural gender and sexual norms that such people wouldn't be telling everyone unless the ball was already toward acceptance. Even still, we see how people act. Someone will say " I get the gay thing, but the trans thing? nah" then they will say " Ok trans is fine, but non-binary? No Way!" and so there is always the tendency to hate what we don't understand. Do you know that many cultures have way more than two genders?

So true! Playing in a fantasy world as a human can be (and is for me) the most fantastic experience, becaus it seems, that all the things i have to overcome, i will as a human being among all theese fantastic other creatures

Actually, human fighter is statistically the most played race-class combination of all the possibilities in 5e.

nope, like 15% of alll characters are human fighters.

The thought is the true definition of a people person.

Patrick Gallagher See, I have the opposite problem. I can’t remember the last time any of my players wanted to be a human.

Now that is an interesting setting idea

Did they all pick a new favorite? Or did they spread out

Jeremy Davis a decent spread. Half elf, halfling, elf, Warforged, and tiefling.

Wasted potential there. You could make humans xenophobic as fuck and persecute the nonhuman party. Humanity first!

Same experience with my players with something else, I noticed youngest players tend to play nonhuman more than players in their 30+.

I know this is two years out, but my experience with Hurry Up and Wait from Cadets is enough to tell me that this has to be true XD

Tell me you couldn't make Spartacus (not a myth but you get my point) as a Half-Orc, or Theseus the son of Poseidon as a Water Genasi or Triton. I think don't race has much to do with re-imagining myths.

casey hudson maybe not for you, but personally I prefer to see humans rise above their mortal limits. But that's just me, and the beauty of this game is that we can all play our own way.

Okay fair point, but all races in D&D are mortal right? Though I think there's something to be said about the human swordsman whose surpassed the skill of the Elf who has been the master for 600 years.

casey hudson you've hit the nail on the head.

Benjamin Exton I have player thats total Firbolg, he is 7 ft.

I thought it was just me. I’m 6’2” and my most “famous” characters in the group are halflings and gnomes.

King of the Manlets!

I'm one of the taller players in the group and I consistently play the smallest characters.

Alnilam Orion yeah I whole heartedly agree. I would usually create a character concept first then pick the race with the tropes to match.

I find 5th edition did away with that forced assumption about most races, at least on a mechanical level, since they got rid of the penalties to ability modifiers (well, except to orcs and kobolds ): ). Maybe it's the tables you play at that are the problem, because I haven't really seen that kind of forced assumption at most of the games I've played in.

But the lack of ability score increases in certain stats are a penalty all themselves because of point buy, it means nothing higher than a +2 mod in your primary ability at low levels, that mod also effects how many times certain class features can be used, like Ki points. Playing a Dragonborn monk might be cool but with no dex or wis increases your pretty penalized; a lesser bonus to attack, less damage, lower AC, less Ki points, your saves are down, and your stun DC is lower. Even after 4th level you're forced to take an ASI over a feat unless you want to continue on lacking in all those departments and if you do take an ASI your basically still behind everyone else. Where as if I played a human I could have a 16 in both dex and wis. The end result is your basically behind for 12 levels where as your buddies have a 20 in their primary by 8 leaving your bonus', saves, and damage essentially 4 levels behind. My problem is that non-traditional race/class combos, are inherently less optimal, and that by playing them you're purposefully choosing to make yourself less effective now, and catch up later. Now if you roll stats thats less of an issue because you can roll an 18 at level 1 and play a dragon born monk with an 18 dex or wisdom, and have a nice bumps to your str and chs on top of that. But most tables play with the base rules. Hell I play humans the majorty of the time and we don't allow variant human at our tables. I just like the idea of being a mostly normal person surrounded by all the crazy shit that exists in a D&D world, the implications of that are great RP fodder. I just dislike that there are some specific personality aspects attributed to the demi-human races and that they have set in stone ability increases. Thus I prefer the freedom RP wise and mechanically that humans provide. The idea that Humans are boring is sort of weird to me because unless you're a boring person and sit down and play yourself every game theres no way to be any more boring than any other race. Like how many badass movie characters are human? How many real humans are fucking interesting as hell? I find it easier to slip into a human and RP anything I want. Other races just don't have that same capacity for diversity.

You're right about everything cept the Ki points. They go by Monk Level, (Level 2 you get 2 Ki points, ect...). Attack bonus, damage, AC, saving throws and save DC is spot on, though.

casey hudson I didn't remember what abilities are based on attributes and I've never actually played a monk. I thought it did but I didn't have a book around me at the time

Bluecho4 This is pretty much me exactly. And no one has ever accused me of being boring or lacking imagination.

#DragonbornMasterRace

#ElvesArentPeople

#AllRacesMatter

#butnotTabaxi

#alsoTabaxi

They don't have a slow maturation. They reach physical maturity at the same age as humans. They just don't take an adult name until 100.

@Regular Slime Human bias probably; heck that was literally one of the main reasons why demi-humans had certain limits in the original versions

The game far surpassed what he envisioned, and good thing else it wouldn't still exist. I respect my father but when I became an adult my life is about what I envision, not what he does.

That's really cool in that, you can essentially "create" the Freezing Sphere, and the Resilient Sphere spells that appear in the phb. Then take out the arcane patent on it, and be the genuine intellectual owner of two spells!

casey hudson that’s the hope, I’ll have to find out a way to role play coming up with them

It's a role-playing game; you can play ANY character however you want and if the lore police try to correct you, just ignore them and/or tell them to shut up. I play characters against type all of the time. Humans can be anything, so there's no type to play against. I'm already a human in real life; why the hell would I want to pretend to be one in a game where I can be almost anything? Yes, it IS a failure of imagination.

@pakidara2000 that sounds to play with a kobold PC who constantly have people try to catch or treat as a pet.