DIY FAIL! Draining the Wrong Fluid Causes Catastrophic Damage

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8 күн бұрын

FAILED DIFF! This costly DIY mistake, lead to catastrophic Haldex failure in a Mk7.5 Golf R The owner accidentally drained the wrong fluid, and drove it for 9,000miles, resulting in severe rear differential damage and rear end noise. Today we will diagnose the rear end noise, replace the rear differential and Haldex in this MK7.5 Golf R, and teardown the unit to see the carnage!
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@HumbleMechanic 7 күн бұрын

At first you may want to jump on the DIYer... but for real, I have seen this mistake get made by pros. He took enough punishment with having to pay all this $ for the repair. :) Lets be nice.

@r2doucebag595 7 күн бұрын

I was hanging out with a buddy who was doing an oil change for his engine and he pulled the drain plug on the transmission. Anyone who doesn't make mistakes isn't trying anything new.

@worldhello1234 7 күн бұрын

The difference being liability. Your fuck-ups cannot be somebody else's problem but if a mechanic screws up he has to own it or gets owned. Slavery is real. 😘😉

@hopingforthebest1.9 6 күн бұрын

Hey, at least he tried to do it on his own, that's a lot better than most people will ever do

@jackMcRyder 6 күн бұрын

Thank you for mentioning pros have done this. I do hate paying thousands for a big replacement at a pro shop, only to later see various harnesses and under shield not being attached properly. Didn’t believe it, but it still happened at some shops.

@richmondvand147 6 күн бұрын

the driveline and transmission are the things I will not fuck with same with block bits like heads - no drilling out bolts for me thanks

@busslayer4790 7 күн бұрын

Repair manual directions for this job: "Disconnect battery, remove differential. Installation is reverse of removal."

@brianeno1062 6 күн бұрын

"Just pull it off by hand, it should slide right off without any effort"

@peterpanini96 6 күн бұрын

😂😂😂@@brianeno1062

@daverdfw 6 күн бұрын

Anyone that does DIY makes mistakes. No sense in shaming the guy. I’m sure he feels bad enough. For all the money we save doing it ourselves there are times we mess it up.

@peterpanini96 6 күн бұрын

Just don't mess it up watch various guys do the same job and then you find the right way... 😢 I'm still doubting about dsg service... but I will find the right way with measuring bottles... 😅

@daverdfw 5 күн бұрын

@@peterpanini96 I just did a DSG service few weeks ago on a Mk6. I got the round pump thing. And it made the job sooooo much easier.

@_drewmin 4 күн бұрын

@@daverdfw Just did my Tiguan's trans and haldex clutch on Monday with one, definitely nice to have. Gonna keep it around for my Mk6's DSG, even though it was kind of a pain to clean between uses

@red95gts 7 күн бұрын

I’m impressed it went 9k miles with no fluid! I would have bet good $$ that it would have grenaded long before that

@richmondvand147 6 күн бұрын

I mean it did, they just didnt notice until later.

@rolandm9750 5 күн бұрын

@@richmondvand147 Yeah I suspect there was no drive at the rear for a while. They probably noticed the ESP light coming on for wheelspin more than usual but probably didn't drive it on stuff like gravel, snow, etc., or simply drive it hard enough to really realise there was an issue with no AWD. With the front still doing it's thing as the main thing propelling the car, it could def. go unnoticed.

@warrendegonzague 7 күн бұрын

"...and all the inside parts becoming outside parts" 😂😂

@Rusty430 5 күн бұрын

In many cases with maintenance, a good mental flag to remember is "fluid out = fluid in". If you drain X amount of fluid, you need to fill X amount. We've all been at that, "...uh, what...oh, no...that's not right..." Lol. Live and learn and pass it along.

@noodlesatf 6 күн бұрын

I almost made this exact mistake on the wife's Tiguan. I drained the gear oil by mistake, but noticed that the fluid level didn't change at the fill hole. Instantly realized my mistake, and ran out in my car to grab some gear oil.

@denzelfashington3110 7 күн бұрын

If you’re a DIYer your mistakes will never be forgotten

@miketeeveedub5779 6 күн бұрын

The first rule of auto repair in the 21st century is research, Research, RESEARCH!!! I did a Haldex/diff service on my Ford Five Hundred only after researching it extensively on the Ford/Volvo forums. This guy did ZERO research and just eye-balled it like it was a '78 Chevy pickup truck. He paid for his mistake. Thanks for the video Charles; always informational and hilarious at the same time!

@AhmedAljazwi 7 күн бұрын

Happens to the best of us, we're humans after all.

@HumbleMechanic 7 күн бұрын

Yea I feel bad for the dude.

@Arounadabout 7 күн бұрын

Don't charge him any labour then, besides you'll get paid for the KZfaq upload @@HumbleMechanic

@worldhello1234 7 күн бұрын

Probably, not to the best and it doesn't make it any better.

@AhmedAljazwi 7 күн бұрын

@@worldhello1234 Just finish eating your crayons

@PatricioGarcia1973 6 күн бұрын

@@worldhello1234no body is perfect and mistakes happen.

@flyguy437 8 сағат бұрын

Thank you for helping me diy the right way. Many of us could not afford to buy a new car nowadays and are forced to diy.

@TheJuggernoob1 7 күн бұрын

Have you ever serviced an e-Golf? I’d be interested in seeing a gearbox fluid change. It’s a somewhat rare car and there are a lot of myths out there saying “electric cars don’t need oil/don’t have gears/don’t need service”.

@nathanchapman93 7 күн бұрын

Recently done mine. As easy as doing a diff oil change. As it is just a diff lol. Filled it upto the fill hole. Took 0.8ltrs. 👍

@TheJuggernoob1 7 күн бұрын

@@nathanchapman93 Where did you find information on how to do this?

@FluePeak 7 күн бұрын

@@TheJuggernoob1 check if the diff is the same as of other golfs and follow that guide. Or go to the local volkswagen workshop and ask if they can print work instrucitons

@thejackamo 6 күн бұрын

Oh interesting I wasn’t aware of this. Have a Mk 7.5 eGolf that I’ll have to check the service intervals on

@nathanchapman93 6 күн бұрын

I posted pics of my work in the E Golf Facebook group. There's an English dubbed video on KZfaq on how it's done. They also link a service kit. That's the one I used. 👍

@frankmuschetto3385 7 күн бұрын

Charles - another outstanding video. Your ability to describe the issue(s) as well as the practical way to fix them coupled with your sense of humor and "light" sarcasm is perfect for those of us who don't know but would like to.... This is one of the best KZfaq Channels - even compared to the ultra fit young lady that jumps rope....😁

@sipe12 6 күн бұрын

I like this new video format and details on work being done. Keep up the good work to 1 million subscribers!

@Riley8425 6 күн бұрын

This exact thing happened to my dad's mk6 R at a reputable shop when he went to have the Haldex fluid serviced.

@noahsark5279 7 күн бұрын

This video was in my suggestion feed. I watched it from start to finish. Amazing to see someone who loves their job so much and is uber knowledgeable about it. Not to mention lots of cool tools and clean shop. "Nothing a little fire can’t solve!" 😂😂😂😂 Oh, did I mention I don’t even own an ICE (internal combustion engine) car. I’m on my third electric vehicle since 2018. Please don’t hate me. I gave you a thumbs up. 👍

@adamwalters4709 6 күн бұрын

Great video Charles! Always enjoy your information!

@rudimentary123 5 күн бұрын

This was SO informative. Love this channel!

@LukeEdward 7 күн бұрын

I’ve been there with a poopied DIY repair I’ve done on my vehicle. Just glad Charles was there for you.

@mackjsm7105 7 күн бұрын

I am amazed how good this dude is.. Super cool.. My son is a huge fan of his.

@conrad5675 6 күн бұрын

that soung brings chills down my spine . great content

@RSole9999 3 күн бұрын

For my former Jetta TDIs I had a six inch threaded rod the same thread as the wheel bolts. Threading the rod into the nub made wheel installation much easier, with the wheel hanging on the threaded rod white i got the other bolts in.

@1978garfield 3 күн бұрын

I am glad you could help the guy out for less than 6 or 7 Gs. Did he overfill the thing he thought he drained? It seems like serviceability it a complete afterthought on most cars made in the last 10 years.

@mattalki 6 күн бұрын

Holy moly, that's some serious carnage! That was great to see, thanks! Also, I've done plenty of oopsies in my time - they're the best way to learn. It's just too bad it had to cost him so much for the lesson. Hopefully he didn't take it too hard.

@paulp96275 5 күн бұрын

If us DIYERS haven’t sinned cast the first bolt the poor guy is on the naughty step at home his bank is drained of a few months of fuel money his heart is broken but he’s learned a lesson and a painful one at that that diff is for the bin or India where it will be rebuilt on a mud floor better than the day it left the factory Great videos I love this channel I’ve learned a great deal I have a few Mk 1 tts keep them coming never a dull moment from an old Audi fan 😂👍🇬🇧🇬🇧

@tkpeters 7 күн бұрын

Where did he refill the oil, as the haldex takes minimum 650ml

@richmondvand147 6 күн бұрын

as 'I DO CARS' would say lots of forbidden glitter and diff nuggets

@mackjsm7105 7 күн бұрын

I got chills.. wow..

@Zumblu 7 күн бұрын

I know you have a video on how to properly DIY the haldex, but do you have one for the front and rear diff fluid change? I want to DIY servicing the diffs but it seems hard to find a good how to video

@carlosgraphic 6 күн бұрын

Buy the service manual. That works better than any video. You will learn more about your car.

@dB_944 7 күн бұрын

One would think that only “topping” up the Haldex would have been a tip off of something not quite right. 😊

@blundy1 5 күн бұрын

I'm impressed it worked for around 9000 miles without any fluid in it.

@darrellgordon7456 7 күн бұрын

aside from the diff gaff, that 7.5 looks great. my fav color

@JustinBone 7 күн бұрын

The diff housing is a good candidate for an upgraded rear LSD from someone like iAbed or Powerzone

@Hawk7886 6 күн бұрын

1.5x warranty time for customer pay is super fair. In my area it's 2x.

@ThePedalDance 7 күн бұрын

Same exact wheel and tire setup I had on my MK7.5 R Neuspeed RSe10 Hyper Black with Michelin PSAS4+

@williamwhite9767 6 күн бұрын

Back in the 80's, a woman who worked for me and her husband bought her daughter a new tiny Korean car with a standard trans. The first oil change the husband drained the trans and filled the engine. Daughter took off for Florida from NC. She made it to SC. They found a trans in a salvage yard to replace the destroyed one. I told my employee that she should confiscate her husbands tool box. 😂

@PandaMan02 2 күн бұрын

this is why you read up the spec for a drain and fill and if you haven't gotten through the first bottle of fluid, expect something very wrong.

@clemsonguy99 7 күн бұрын

Lots of sadness. Thanks for showing us the carnage.

@93simlar 6 күн бұрын

There are marks inside the boot floorpan where you drill two 25mm holes to remove the rear diff bolts. Some rustproofing and rubber plugs installs after the diff is replaced. No need to lower the subframe at all.

@HumbleMechanic 6 күн бұрын

Id much rather drop the frame a little than drill some sizeable holes in the body

@Scurops 5 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@BottomDeadCenter 7 күн бұрын

I've seen this happen so many times, it's unbelievable. Happens to the best of us but having the RM at hand definetly helps :)

@eppyz 7 күн бұрын

If you have seen this many times in the sense DIYers messed up or a pro mechanic messed up? If it was the latter did they cover the cost of their mistake?

@BottomDeadCenter 7 күн бұрын

@@eppyz I've seen it from 4 pro's in the shop I worked at as a VW Master Technician. Mistakes were always covered by our employer (Germany). The general structure of the rear axle in these MQB AWDs can be really confusing, when you're only used to working on FWD cars. That's why I always have the repair manual running in the background, even if I know my way in and out of a job by heart. Luckily I'm not working as a technician anymore so I can take my sweet time with everything I do on a car nowadays.

@DevineDigital 6 күн бұрын

Fun fact @humblemechanic the MK6 Jetta has insert indentations in the trunk for the haldex. When I did my AWD swap I drilled them out and man does that make life easier haha. Obviously it doesn’t work in this situation, but it was a cool useless fact I discovered.

@martynlangley8699 7 күн бұрын

Fantastic recovery for your customer Charles. I’ve got a tight spot on the rear output of my bevel box on a 2017 all track. Fluid was burnt. Would this be an issue as all looked ok inside.

@DerSpuk73 7 күн бұрын

Sunday saved be HumbleMechanic 🥰 TYSM

@chamaileon81 6 күн бұрын

Charles, after Paul's Back to the future reference, you need to print some t-shirts with "When this baby hits 50 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit" and below that, the picture of the wrecked haldex 🤣

@HumbleMechanic 6 күн бұрын

hahahhahah

@nickayivor8432 7 күн бұрын

👍 WHIP SMART, HumbleMechanic Can't wait for the next video Take care and have a great evening with all your family around you, HumbleMechanic From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 16:50 Good Afternoon

@fredjones5327 6 күн бұрын

Great video, question on my gen 4 haldex, I removed it with no issues, but one of the bolts stayed in the diff, just spinning in place and tips on how to get it out??

@VdubK 6 күн бұрын

I done this same shit but then realised after 😅 mistakes happen, I diy everything on mine, planning on fitting and setting up the 5 pot like you (with help from your vids 😊 just need the wiring diagrams) unless i decide to get the 4 pot forged instead, mind you not planning it for a few years time.

@repair_tech_brian5388 7 күн бұрын

Love the videos!

@HumbleMechanic 7 күн бұрын

Thank you

@repair_tech_brian5388 7 күн бұрын

@@HumbleMechanic you're welcome! If you had the choice to build a GTI, would you do 1.8t or the vr6?

@HumbleMechanic 4 күн бұрын

Depends what my end goals were. Probably easier/cheaper to build a 1.8t. But a vr6 will always be awesome. Lol sorry for being zero help

@ref__ 7 күн бұрын

I dont like how he makes us wait so long for a video. I wish he'd drop everyday

@Ferto2223 6 күн бұрын

Great video!!!, could you do some catastrophic video of G13 coolant

@DanielJStahl 7 күн бұрын

Reminder to do my haldex service.

@vendettahobbies5769 6 күн бұрын

What underhoist stands are you using, im liking that quick release

@pkt1213 6 күн бұрын

Always check the Paul install option.

@user-fv6yf7fi9t 6 күн бұрын

If he drained the diff section and filled ("topped off") the coupler section thinking he was filling the diff, he likely put diff fluid (gear oil?) in the coupler. Maybe that is why it appeared "two-toned" and looked so bad when you drained it?

@brooklynpratt 5 күн бұрын

Hi Charles - as always LOVE the channel - I see you use Milwaukee impact wrench on the wheels. Which model is it? Do you prefer any others? I have a '17 Golf R and want to invest in one, again, for the wheels. Thanks!

@zeroyon4562 6 күн бұрын

Aside from the bearing, it actually looks better than I would have thought, it doesn’t even have any teeth broken off the CW&P.

@alexboi3633 2 күн бұрын

This literally just happened to me last night. I had a haldex service maybe 9,500 miles ago.

@Silent1Pinoy 7 күн бұрын

This was SUPER informative and appreciated. I'll be on the market for a Mk. 8.5 next year; glad I saw this.

@jelle1611 7 күн бұрын

This was a 7.5 :)

@Silent1Pinoy 7 күн бұрын

@@jelle1611 I know, and?

@paulvina1974 3 күн бұрын

When the tech just starts laughing 😅🤭🤣

@JordieG8 7 күн бұрын

Are you able to replace the clutch stack in the Haldex?

@wanderer7779 7 күн бұрын

Ah yes the classic R to gti conversion 😅

@DeafeningSounds 6 күн бұрын

You have to pay VW for the rear differential activation 😂

@panzerveps 6 күн бұрын

Note: The repair manual says to drill holes in the floor, apply paint and cover with plastic plugs. That's how you get access to the top bolts.

@HumbleMechanic 6 күн бұрын

I’m not sure what repair manual says that. Elsa for US says dip the subframe down

4 күн бұрын

Nice

@Daryll_Flaro 6 күн бұрын

Well here’s the big question, is the differential fluid supposed to be serviced periodically or should we just worry about the Haldex coupling fluid?

@dustin9967 6 күн бұрын

Are all of the newer Audi drivetrains set up like this? I have a '24 SQ8 w/o the Sport Diff

@burb17 7 күн бұрын

Seems you’d question a quart or so of fluid coming out but only an ounce or two going back in and wonder why.

@taknotes Күн бұрын

Had a vw dealer do this on my mk6 even after I warned them and sent them pictures and the guide on how to do it correctly. Then tried to say it wasn’t their fault the diff grenaded 🤦🏻‍♂️

@ButteredToast_93 7 күн бұрын

This is why I serviced the haldex fluid and the diff fluid at the same time. I also have the complete service manual on my phone. Stuff like this scares the every living crap out of me

@davidmurdoch42 6 күн бұрын

Same color as mine and I'm not far but I followed your DIY video x2 and fortunately not that guy! Wow that's more carnage than we see FROM Eric on I Do Cars from entire engines.

@commontater652 4 күн бұрын

Leg workout regimen: Blue car - right leg; yellow car - left leg; white - right; red - left. You get the idea. Never skip leg day!

@HumbleMechanic 4 күн бұрын

Hahahha love it

@TheUberdude14 7 күн бұрын

I've been noticing that the new rear diffs come without a drain plug. Wondering if vw saw the issues themselves

@chriskelvin248 6 күн бұрын

The dealership has been known to mix up the Haldex and the rear diff oils.

@albin2355 4 күн бұрын

I have a golf 7 awd manual, and i just want to know if its normal for the car to make a sound when i let go off the clutch when i start in 1 st to drive

@markprior6009 7 күн бұрын

Charles I’m getting a VW Tiguan Allspace in September/October. I’ve just found out that these are built in Mexico, will the build quality be as good as a German built vehicle?

@lostinbossiercity 6 күн бұрын

Mistakes will be made being a DIYer. All we can do is learn. I made a mistake pressing in a wheel bearing today.

@bshwayde 6 күн бұрын

I can’t imagine trying to get the wheel back on without a hanger. That’s why they’re in all the factory tool kits. The metal one looks a little more reliable than the plastic one tho.

@awd_gli9632 5 күн бұрын

You can totally salvage that Haldex unit and rebuild it with new OEM clutches and then just clean the pump. Granted, they aren’t expensive to replace. (529 innovations sells new friction materials) But yikes…. Talk about trying to save money and costing yourself a ton! May be a good candidate for an LSD rear end tho.

@doginu 7 күн бұрын

Bringing a new meaning to wrong hole....

@1978garfield 3 күн бұрын

'Bite the pillow, I'm driving it dry!'

@doginu 3 күн бұрын

@@1978garfield Stop it some more...

@arsenyrazhkov4559 6 күн бұрын

How do you even make this kind of mistake? If you drain the rear diff instead of the haldex, when you’re “filling up the haldex”, logic would say hmm why did the haldex only take like 200ml of fluid despite JUST being drained? That should’ve been a clear indication of a rookie mistake on his part, if the haldex takes 1L of fluid, but you can only fill it with 200ml before leaking out of the fill hole, spidey senses should be going off instantly

@Aleks_Mechanics 7 күн бұрын

Notification squad Have a Great weekend!🔥🔥🔥

@B-Gwala 7 күн бұрын

💯💯

@HumbleMechanic 7 күн бұрын

Cheers my friend

@he2692 6 күн бұрын

Ive just had a dsg service done at a garage. Now im panicking im rolling around with no fluid everywhere theres supposed to be 😂

@andrewwoodruff7288 7 күн бұрын

Ultra sadness, much destruction. Amazing it lasted 9k miles!

@HumbleMechanic 7 күн бұрын

That’s the craziest part of the whole thing hahah

@jerryelgersman2980 Күн бұрын

Hey I have a mk8 golf r 20th anniversary dsg I have unitronic stage 1 +low hp tune how often should I change diffs and halidex lots of launches and hard pulls she gose to the drags doing 12.44 to 12.00

@cardiacdrummer5443 7 күн бұрын

Oh that cringe noise 😬. I remember when I attempted to service my DSG on my MKV GTI. Yeah, I gave up pretty quickly when I read all of the instructions and just had the dealer do it properly in 1/4 of the time it would take me.

@laalaa99stl 7 күн бұрын

MKV DSG is super easy if you use the measurement method. Put back in exactly how much you drained out.

@cardiacdrummer5443 7 күн бұрын

@@laalaa99stl *the more you know*

@russellvoth5161 6 күн бұрын

Amazing that it lasted that long with no fuild in it.

@stevenharpervw 5 күн бұрын

Charles , Audi TT mk1 how do you test that the Quattro is working ? Like the professional way?… not just going out to the local grass park and ripping around . I had the front wheels in the air and back wheels on the ground thinking car would feel slip and engage the rear . Nothing . Is the Quattro too smart to be fooled like that ?

@SterlingSigurdsen Күн бұрын

What is your take on the current massive recall on all Golf’s from 2016-present and Audi A3,4s, for the fuel leak that can catch the car on fire? We sold our 2018 Golf Sportwagen SEL with only 20k on it because of this and bought my with a 2016 Volvo XC70 T5 platinum.

@aldeacristian4582 6 күн бұрын

Just make sure you give your diff some of that HAWK TWAH

@MrCthur 7 күн бұрын

Redefining optional power to the rear...

@BS-ge4ne 5 күн бұрын

Whats the actual service interval for the diff oil, i dont see it in the schedule?

@HumbleMechanic 4 күн бұрын

No scheduled main for yhat

@anaestereo810 5 күн бұрын

Hey, the wizard screwed up hoopties AMG plug-in it in the wrong hole....dont feel bad, happens.

@michaelstone3695 7 күн бұрын

So what's that clutch pack selling for? my pump got clogged and burned up my clutch pack. Was looking to swap the whole unit, but if it's just a few bolts to slide out, I'll start there.

@HumbleMechanic 7 күн бұрын

Good question I’m not sure what the price is on them. It’s an easy swap out. Hell you may be able to do it in the car

@SeanBZA 7 күн бұрын

Repairable though, those bearings are parts you can get.

@donmynack 4 күн бұрын

I still don't understand why the diff was left with no fluid in it. Was it drained, then fluid put in the Haldex?

@einfelder8262 6 күн бұрын

WTF??? Surely draining a quart of oil from the diff and filling a thimble full into the haldex would have raised a question. You know, why did it not take much to fill?

@joeyk803c 7 күн бұрын

That thing is sadder than me on Valentine's day. 😢

@dougsrosen 6 күн бұрын

Pop quiz hot shot. You ordered parts and Paul isn’t gonna install them

@olimpiudoda1271 6 күн бұрын

I have a great idea , if u transmision have not more than 500k Miles , dont mes it up, if not overheating and no oil came out leave it don't throw away u $ for nothing.