Why EVERYONE Hates the MK8 GTI and MK8 Golf R

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3 күн бұрын

Why does everyone HATE the MK8 GTI and MK8 Golf R? Well not everyone does, but a whole lot of folks really hate the MK8. MK8 issues like bad software, MK8 steering wheel, MK8 haptic, MK8 buttons and of course the dealer markups lead to a lot of bad feelings about the MK8 GTI and MK8 Golf R! I have really loved a lot about this car in the 2.5years ive had it.
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@HumbleMechanic 2 күн бұрын

As much as we poked fun, and pointed out some real issues, I have LOVED my MK8! Im kinda bummed to be selling it. But if you are in the market for a MK8.. HOLLA!

@draneldavid4472 2 күн бұрын

I love my MK8.

@mackjsm7105 2 күн бұрын

Great Vid BTW!!! They have these in Delray Beach Florida.. well.. ONE.. for $45,000.. and a (GTI -Sfor $39K) they can't sell these. VW needs to wake up. GTI's/R are supposed to be affordable for folks in their 30s.. not in their 50/60ss. The Market adjustment is complete CRAP.. and FORD, GM is already feeling it. Good.

@JoshuaGotcher 2 күн бұрын

I’d hit you up if I was in the market. You’ve solved all the grumbles you can and it looks real nice!

@curtaberle1783 2 күн бұрын

Hey Charles, how did you get a black bumperdillo??

@scottroberts5529 2 күн бұрын

When had those 034 wheels on ur mk8 we're u running any spacers

@danhalen4231 Күн бұрын

“The dealers have a lot of power” but the consumer has more. If people would stop buying cars at marked up rates, the dealer has to sit on that inventory.

@OMGWTFLOLSMH Күн бұрын

And stop buying cars with no buttons, switches, knobs and with piano black trim.

@DontDrinkTheFlavorAid Күн бұрын

The typical consumer self inserts every single time, they never know when to quit which is why the majority of Americans would stuggle to cover a $1000 emergency, flexing is more important

@ITB_E86 Күн бұрын

What feeds more fuel to the fire is people actually bragging about being able to "afford" said ridiculous markups. I thought people bragged about getting deals on cars, not overpaying for them

@DontDrinkTheFlavorAid Күн бұрын

@@ITB_E86 Even when they brag about the great deal they got, they lie. I once had someone tell me about the great deal they got on the car only for them to mention gap insurance on it. It's scary how many adults don't have a clue how money works

@ScottPC Күн бұрын

This is what happens in the UK. We even get discounts of 10-15% off retail when they have to sell a load for the quarters.

@JasonThaiKennedy 2 күн бұрын

Manufacturers have gone to capacitive touch and screens for one reason and one reason only, Cost Savings. The MK8 is a demonstration in cost savings.

@OMGWTFLOLSMH Күн бұрын

Joke's on them. I'm practicing my own cost savings by not buying one.

@Peter_Riis_DK Күн бұрын

Exactly, Jason.

@MishtahPoog Күн бұрын

Exactly -- they're cheaper to manufacture. They also advertise well and look good in photos of the car, and the company can market all the crammed-in features and functionality. To me, eliminating buttons for touch-screens generally makes a car feel cheap. Luxury is now having buttons and switches. If you look at super high-end cars like Rolls Royce, they actually have really good buttons and switches. The opposite end of the spectrum is newer Teslas, with super cheap touchscreen-only interiors.

@keithwalsh1882 Күн бұрын

It's also a matter of feeling they must pile on all kinds of additional functionality/features and need some way to access it all. Many of these 'features' most drivers will never make use of.

@darthnatas953 Күн бұрын

Well they sure spent a hell of a lot of money paying the teenagers to redesign the entire interior of a car that was nearly perfect in the mk7.

@westonite210 Күн бұрын

I think a lot of these issues wouldn’t have been such a big deal if it wasn’t following up the mk7, which did such an amazing job of getting the basics right. The obvious cost cutting felt like a betrayal of the GTI/R’s reputation of feeling like it was a class above its price point

@paulherbert5548 Күн бұрын

My 2015 GTI-S is amazing even after all these years.

@darthnatas953 Күн бұрын

I'm not sure it was cost cutting as it was spending the money in all the wrong places when it comes to the interior. A button can't cost that much right? 50 cents?

@krane15 Күн бұрын

The "issue" is that these are simple issue no car manufactures should be getting wrong e.g. bad cup holders? No sunglasses storage, "engine cover" issues? With all the technology on new cars today VW is getting the mos basic analogue features wrong? Really? That's just total and unmitigated incompetence.

@nousernames444 Күн бұрын

@@krane15I think there was a changing of the guard. The older engineers were probably overruled by younger designers

@stimproid 2 күн бұрын

Haptics and lack of physical buttons for basic functions.

@krane15 Күн бұрын

One word: T E S L A.

@acefighterpilot Күн бұрын

With the loss of the manual gearbox, it's a little sad to think that the best Golf R was already sold.

@Ghostblaze1 2 күн бұрын

Because they botched interior finish quality and topped it off with terrible ergonomics with touch hvac controls.

@Wooden_Hammer Күн бұрын

Then raise the price by $10k

@lindsay9697 Күн бұрын

I was super skeptical at the start but after a few weeks it’s no different to operating a phone. Comes second nature.

@Flysh24 Күн бұрын

@@lindsay9697this. The people who complain about it haven’t used it for more than 5 min.

@lindsay9697 Күн бұрын

@@Flysh24 absolutely correct.

@TheMhayden123 Күн бұрын

The interior feels just fine, feels like a $40k to me 🤷‍♂️

@aluminumfalcon552 2 күн бұрын

Across the board, not just VW, not just cars, technology has gone too far. It’s time to back it up about a decade and stay there.

@dudley7540 Күн бұрын

Tech for the sake of tech. Hey, look what we can do!

@aluminumfalcon552 Күн бұрын

@@dudley7540 meanwhile we are thinking “hey, look what you can don’t”

@burner0821 Күн бұрын

We're gonna sound like such boomers to kids of the future

@krane15 Күн бұрын

So counter technology? I don't think that's going to happen.

@jakethedetailsnake Күн бұрын

Toyota is staying in the decade behind game

@parsonator529 Күн бұрын

My MK8 was a blast to drive, but the infotainment just ruined it. 6 months of ownership and I never got used to it. Every time I got into the car, I thought "not this shit again." So I traded it for a MK7.5, and haven't once regretted that decision.

@paulherbert5548 Күн бұрын

Yep. You stepped up to a Mk7.5!

@ericcarson342 Күн бұрын

Damn. I have was thinking of trading in my 7.5 R for 24' R that comes with Prets or wait for an 8.5 R. And then this video comes up. I don't know now if I should trade in.

@parsonator529 Күн бұрын

@@ericcarson342 You should test drive one. If the UI makes you go "holy crap I hate this," then walk away because I don't think you'll get used to it. If your reaction is more like "this is strange, but I don't mind it," then I think you might well get used to it eventually.

@LoveLikeaHurricane Күн бұрын

Believe it or not, I have kind of the same feeling about my Fk8 Type R. I can’t truly get used to the modern Big size vehicle and also all that non sense with the infotainment. Thankfully it isn’t too crazy with multiple settings like the Golf Gti/R. I haven’t driven the GR Corolla or 86, but I feel they at least are doing it right with being simple and 90’s 2000 feel

@zactidwell77 Күн бұрын

That's an unreal comment. I only use one or two pushes to change the AC or mode. I've never interacted with the screen other than those two things. Are you playing video games on it or something? I would think someone must be kinda simple-minded or electronics illiterate to find such a simple system a bother.

@ihavealife002 2 күн бұрын

I went through chick-fil-a the other day in my MK6 R and they wrote down that it was a crossover. So I would take SUV as a compliment.

@HumbleMechanic 2 күн бұрын

HAHAHAHAH

@iSnipeRaidMax Күн бұрын

I play that game with my mk4. Toss up on "crossover" or "suv". I've also seen sedan a couple times. My mk6 is usually SUV :(

@moistboy64 Күн бұрын

used to work at CFA, they don't have hatchback in their system 😭

@homer23422000 Күн бұрын

The haptic only buttons isn't a good move, but it will really be bad for the 3rd+ owner at 6+ years old when they start acting up.

@filip000 Күн бұрын

It's not even a problem for reliability's sake. The problem is that you can't literally do ANYTHING while driving, without removing your eyes off the road. In my 370z; while driving, I can effortlessly touch and feel exactly where the buttons are for adjusting volume, station, heating, climate, ventilation, seat heating, seat adjustment, mirror adjustment. Everything, without taking my eyes off the road. Not that I need to do those things constantly...but the mere fact that YOU CAN'T do it in these new cars is morbid. We recognize the hazard of texting while driving, using mobile phones while driving - while at the same time, we completely ignore the fact that people fiddle and play around on the screen in their car to do a basic thing such as OPEN THE GLOVE COMPARTMENT (fckn tesla).

@krane15 Күн бұрын

Tesla bots: I don't see the problem? Are VW buyers too old to know how to push buttons?

@eppyz 2 күн бұрын

I think there are a few reasons. 1. The Toyota GR Corolla exists. 2. Honda Civic type R exists. 3. VW can't make a water pump that won't leak. 4. VW brand reputation of being unreliable really hurts the brand. After owning 2 GTI's a MK6 i bought new in 2013 and currently driving a MK7.5 GTI S i just prefer my car inside and out over the new car. So the people that are willing to put up with Volkswagen quirks aren't willing to trade their current cars for new ones.

@r32guy10 Күн бұрын

I love my mk6 and mk4 r32. Wish toyota would bring the GR yaris state side.

@DontDrinkTheFlavorAid Күн бұрын

The GR Corolla isn't much to look at. It honestly looks like something someone with a 580 FICO would buy around tax season via that earned income credit

@paulherbert5548 Күн бұрын

The water pump is sacrilege. How many generations of Golf has this effected? Two, Three?

@eppyz Күн бұрын

All EA888 for sure of all generations@paulherbert5548

@oradaz Күн бұрын

After a warranty WP on my 19 at 36k it was definitely part of the equation of selling at ~62k. If the interior was simply retained from the 7.5 I'd have a mk8 instead of the GRC I own now. FWIW I'd gladly trade that sunroof for some plastic buttons

@nathanjones4039 2 күн бұрын

Not to mention us DSG owners that have to kill auto/start-stop every time we start the car, and it’s also in the infotainment menu, no physical button. Yes, it can be flashed off permanently, but already have a passive/aggressive relationship with the dealer, rather not make it even more complicated.

@diarx1 Күн бұрын

Would the stop start being on at startup possibly be to newer Euro regulations or something? Have been in a few newer Euro cars and they all seem to behave this way.

@_brrr Күн бұрын

@@diarx1 yes. the emissions testers will not reconfigure the car at all, so OEMs make sure the most compliant settings are present at ignition.

@paulherbert5548 Күн бұрын

that in itself would drive me crazy.

@kevinc7632 Күн бұрын

They sell a module that plugs in the button that automatically pushes the button. No flashing needed.

@paulkillick3419 Күн бұрын

I’ve fitted an inline module to the stop start switch and no longer have to worry. It only cost a few quid too 👍

@CubanRider 2 күн бұрын

Great video, very thorough. The main problem with the Mk8 is that the Mk7 was near damn perfect and they changed it a lot, and not for the better. We sold our '22 GTI prematurely and briefly considered a new Golf R, but the local TX dealer wanted $71k 😆 We ended up with a M240i which is good, but we miss our VWs.

@HumbleMechanic 2 күн бұрын

71k HELL NO!!!!

@DontDrinkTheFlavorAid Күн бұрын

Isn't that like Audi RS3 money

@phillxor Күн бұрын

@@DontDrinkTheFlavorAidnot it the RS3 is also marked up 😂

@gregoryneal2852 Күн бұрын

@@phillxortrue

@stevenmcmaster Күн бұрын

nothing wrong with a m240. i feel BMW is still 'that' car for enthusiasts. #drivingexperience

@miika-williammadjar Күн бұрын

This channel has been my go to channel for VW Golf MK8 stuff. I actually ordered mine in the summer of 2021 and got it in the summer of 2022 (through multiple delays and chip shortages in the EU) Even though it’s a regular one and an estate, still the best place to learn stuff about my car. Thank You @HumbleMechanic for being as awesome as you are! 🙌🏼 Greetings from Estonia! 🇪🇪

@PAC0TAC0 Күн бұрын

The biggest thing I hated about my Mk8 GTI was the fob, whoever though it was a good idea to not recess the panic button, but have all the other buttons recessed is a nut... I was constantly accidently pressing the panic button with the key in my pocket, while driving, getting in and out of the car...

@HumbleMechanic Күн бұрын

Oh same!!! I had it go off while I was driving

@darthnatas953 Күн бұрын

Yep, mine went off two days ago. How can they not test things like this?

@russellvoth5161 Күн бұрын

Thanks for all the little issues , just waiting for my Kings Red 24 GTI arriving in August . It has plenty of power for city and hwy driving plus verry good mileage. NowI have a shopping list of parts to order for mine. Thanks for your informative videos and Love that blue on your R.

@Seelingfahne 3 сағат бұрын

The Dieselgate bills were also piling up at this point in VW history. For me, it was the different plastics between the front and rear door panels that tipped me off

@mnypit 2 күн бұрын

Have a Mk7.5 GTI and have zero interest in the MK8. I think it looks fat/bulky and kind unattractive. The interior/cockpit treatment just makes it worse, no buttons and putting everything behind a screen that’s slow and laggy. 🤦‍♂️ The cost is still about $7-10k more than it should be…count me out and probably will be switching brand when it’s time to unload the MK7.5

@_brrr Күн бұрын

Despite actually owning and living with a mk8 I think I've thought about the touch screen less than any reviewer who has only had it for a week. Also, shoutout to a fellow that has set all the lights to purple, the objectively best color.

@PerformanceProjects Күн бұрын

I love mine. I never had a MK7 but had a 6 GTI, 6 R and 4 GTI and they were all great. I wanted a GR Corolla but after test driving it, feeling how unapologetically rental car the interior is and a 10k ADM, I walked on it . Found a MK8 GTI 40th the next day for MSRP, drove it and realized how I love VW and drove it home. It took just a couple days to get used to the interior functions and I love them now. Crazy thing is my 24 Rav4 Hybrid has a way worse functioning infotainment and a much cheaper interior (and for much more money spent.).

@bshwayde Күн бұрын

My wife’s ‘22 Tiguan is now on its third haptic button steering wheel. Travel assist error was the reason for the first replacement and probably why it was originally traded in at a gmc dealer. Originally the steering wheels were back ordered for over a year which given the incessant travel assist error I can under why someone would dump a one year old car at a gm dealer. The second replacement was due to faulty steering wheel heating. It just comes on at random and immediately at startup even in 100 degree temps. Really just a failure of engineering and execution on vw’s part. And the egregious omission of illuminated controls on the head unit for volume and climate still continues in the 2024 atlas. Really a head scratcher they’d continue to push out such garbage knowing that everyone hates it. I’ve owned something like 10 VAG vehicles over the years but these last few years of poor design and execution really make me wonder about them.

@bryce850 2 күн бұрын

I was unsure of the mk8 till I seen one in person, then I drove one and the pros outweigh cons imo. The seats are much better than the 7.5 as is the streering wheel, I got over the haptics in a couple of hours due to how good the car drives. I also enjoy the way the interior looks in comparison. Is it perfect nope, but I think its a improvement in all the areas that are most important to me.

@user-se8lu5qy6c Күн бұрын

We have a 2023 Golf R, and we love it. Like you said in your video, it has multiple personalities that are tailored for ours on different days simply by flicking a switch.

@du3lcitiz3n Күн бұрын

I'm loving mine, coming from a MK7 GTI DSG to an MK8 R Manual... my only complaint is the fact it isn't offered with a 2 door. I've done a bunch of mods... and absolutely adore the car.

@MetalJesusRocks Күн бұрын

I have a 2022 as well and got the travel assist problem. New steering wheel later and fixed. I also had a problem with wireless apple CarPlay…and replacement of the WiFi unit and that’s fixed too. Other than that, I’ve really enjoyed the car a lot.

@1alexnewman Күн бұрын

I picked up a 2024 GTI 380 SE a couple months and so far it’s been an absolute blast to drive and own like he said. I have actually got the rear end to come out on multiple occasions! A couple gripes I have were included in this video like the infotainment system is slow to boot and overall is a melancholy experience. I could complain about it for hours, but to me this car is about driving. One of the gripes with driving is the shifter is not that great for a 40k hot hatch. The first 600 miles its was very hard to shift into gears before break-in and only about mile 600-2000 did the shifter feel okay. But now at 6k miles it feels sloppy and sluggish and it’ll make me miss shifts because Im not trying to force it into gear. Definitely going to upgrade the linkages/bushings soon. I put an APR Stage 1 tune on the car at 1500 miles and never looked back. Smoothed out the cars power band in every mode (including twitchy sport) and added a significant amount of healthy power. It pulls hard all the way to redline and peak torque at 2000rpms kicks you in the seat! I added a CTS intake for more turbo sound and I plan to add lowering springs soon as well as the clubsport muffler. If only this car wasn’t so ******* expensive. I remember when a brand new E-class started at 40k…

@jonkR96 Күн бұрын

Boomba shift knob and quick shift kit works wonders. Easy install too!

@jessestevenson8041 2 күн бұрын

I must be in the minority because I love my MK8 GTI (2023 40th Anniversary Edition). I do have the infotainment with the knobs but I really don’t use them. I was a little nervous about no manual controls for HVAC but I haven’t had any issues so far and I just set it to AUTO at like 65-70 degrees and let it do its thing. I don’t accidentally trigger any buttons on the steering wheel and the I’m used to the shiny black plastic by now, if it gets scratched up I’ll wrap those pieces with vinyl. My previous VW was a Kerma tuned Golf TDI which was fantastic in its own right, but definitely showing its age on the inside after 12 years of use. I test drove a couple lightly used MK7.5’s before finding my MK8 new and the MK8 won. I guess I’m just the odd man out.

@dirkdesouza5975 Күн бұрын

Great review, but I got a ‘23 anniversary edition and I absolutely love it!!! Sure the no button thing had to get some “getting used to” now it’s basically set and forget. As a daily it’s very good, and a “b” road carver it’s excellent, as a track day fun toy, bet you it will get to your limits before you get to its limits. All in all, my first Vee Dub and I’m impressed.

@MarylandCarGuy Күн бұрын

As a driving instructor, my student on skidpad had one of these and I was ultimately impressed how such an inexperienced driver ended up looking so good sideways on a wet circular SkidPad. Just seeing this car sideways and watching the driver able ble to straighten the car back out was very impressive.

@peterroberts4753 2 күн бұрын

Brilliant review and very fair to the car especially after all the software updates. Just wish it did not have a opf and sounded a bitter better from stock.

@TheEyeball3000 Күн бұрын

Starting the video strong with a clip from Charles' acceptance speech at the Playa Haters' Ball 😂

@derekfriday7931 Күн бұрын

Hate hate hate hate

@keithwalsh1882 Күн бұрын

Hum, Car and Driver put the Mk 8 GTI/R on their Ten Best list at year one, while they criticized the new controls, fair enough, the rest of the car was highly praised and still is (see their recent long-term review).

@alfredodiodati208 Күн бұрын

I drive a MK7.5 GTI. Stock for stock, the MK8 is unquestionably a better car to drive. It feels tighter, it's quieter and it's noticeably quicker. I love my Clark plaid, but I do find both the cloth and leather chairs in the MK8 to be comfier. But... the MK8 interior overall feels a bit cheap. The screens are sharp and the touch controls really aren't that bad, but climbing back into my 7.5 after sitting in a MK8, the older car has a certain "rightness" about it that's hard to quantify. The MK8 is good enough that I've seriously considered trading in to get one, but the MK7 is just that much better (to me) that I can never quite go through with it.

@jasonm456 Күн бұрын

Still loving my 7.5 R and this makes me feel even better

@kennethhealy1629 2 сағат бұрын

Thanks Charles - great summing up (as usual). I can get used to pretty much anything as long as I have a good driving experience. What I cant forgive is a boring color palette and dealer rip-offs (I mean "mark ups"). I was fortunate that my local dealer wasnt attaching a mark-up when I bought my Spektrum but I am certain that when the 8.5's come around he will go for the gusto - cuz, you know, GREED is the in thing

@fitz2589 Күн бұрын

GTIs should max out at $30k and R’s should be $40k max. These things are ungodly overpriced, and no real buttons are the absolute worst.

@wnturck Күн бұрын

I certainly don’t hate mine. Simply wonderful to drive. Controls are easy and not an issue! Have owned 4 of the 8 versions of the GTI.

@miketeeveedub5779 Күн бұрын

My Mk1 Jetta GLi coupe laughs at your haptic steering wheel and dodgy infotainment center. But cup holders and a hood strut would be nice...along with all-wheel drive, AC, and a turbo. Oh, and sunglasses holder too! 😄 All joking aside it's a technological wonder, but sadly it isn't made to last. I doubt these will last 40 years like my Mk1, but you'll have fun for a time. Always enjoy your videos Charles - cheers!

@jasont42 Күн бұрын

You hit the nail right on the head. I love my 24 GTI but those are definitely things that annoy me. Especially the dash temperature and volume controls not being illuminated. You can’t see them at night. My Road Sign Display has been acting up lately. The haptic buttons are okay but are a little too sensitive at times.

@fredericfortin 2 күн бұрын

Thanks for the video Charles ! Any chance a future video on Torque vectoring diff maintenance before you sell it? I love my mk8 R :)

@HumbleMechanic Күн бұрын

Yes. I have all the stuff for it.

@AJRestoration 2 күн бұрын

I am still stuck with my MK6 and I will probably not upgrade anytime soon. Everything after the mk6 to me feels like meh. I am really happy with my MK6.

@jakwadd 2 күн бұрын

Same here for me. Mk5 enjoyer here and all I’m keen to do is mk6 steering wheel and maybe dash swap in the future (owned 5+ years so fancy a slight uodate). Perfect era of golf’s imo! Do love the 7.5 Rs but the MK8 just doesn’t excite me 😂

@prawnstar502 2 күн бұрын

mk6 is ugly

@bagofsunshine3916 2 күн бұрын

The MK7.5 is a hefty upgrade from the MK6

@vr6gls Күн бұрын

MK7/ MK7.5 is leaps and bounds better than the MK6.

@leospaceman2976 Күн бұрын

Good call out to the hill assist in the 6spd! It’s too aggressive and sucks until you get the hang of it.

@MyShadowblue Күн бұрын

This explains why I kept looking at Rs and none of them had engine covers! Ended up with an S3 when it came down to it.

@RadostinVelchev 2 күн бұрын

It is a great car but the monobrow styling in the front puts a lot of people off.

@JeffreyNishimura Күн бұрын

Took delivery Feb 2022. Heard all of the complaints and comments pre-delivery. Safe to say I have not had all of the problems others had to put up with. Love the car. It's a blast to drive and own. Got used to the haptics and submenu stuff. Had a 76 Scirocco, 84 and 2011 GTI and they were all wonderful cars, but this is the best.

@rbx4487 2 күн бұрын

Happy with mine so far! Got it in april. In Canada less than MSRP as well. My only gripe is having to shut off auto start and front assist every damn time

@darthnatas953 Күн бұрын

I have had a new 2024 GTI for about 4 months now, after having had a Mk7, and many other cars, including several Porsches. Dynamically, the new GTI is excellent. Nothing else has that perfect suspension blend of not too firm, not to soft, but just right for spirited street driving. The car is comfortable, quiet, has a decent motor, great brakes, good handling, excellent suspension, a great size, and practical with 4 seats. Of course the mk7 sport had the perfect interior, with 3 simple knobs for climate, real gauges, and a real parking brake. On the Mk8, those stering wheel touch things are garbage, but I don't touch them too much. The center screen is annoying, but mostly fine. The hill hold is the worst thing about the car. They should issue a recall on it, it is that bad.

@Denileism 16 сағат бұрын

Had an mk8 for almost 10k miles now. The buttons on the wheel are honestly completely fine. I prefer them, works just like a phone, never accidentally touch them. The buttons for AC can definitely be annoying sometimes but you get use to it after like a week tops. Otherwise no complaints, the car is awesome and fun.

@HumbleMechanic 16 сағат бұрын

Yep. Super fun car! Even with the quarks of the UI, you learn ways to work the system.

@AdiusOmega Күн бұрын

I love my MK8 and I love the infotainment and steering wheel controls. Once you "get it" it's super easy to control in my opinion. There are things that I dislike though like every car.

@chrisking6740 23 сағат бұрын

Very similar situation playing out with the new Tacoma. It will have a few growing pains but in the end I think will be a fantastic truck loved by most.

@The1sunnydmusic Күн бұрын

sweet thanks for this. Ive been looking at R's for a bit and was cautious of all the digital side of the R models. Glad to hear the issues have been solved. Also ive been finidng a bunch of R's now selling for under MSRP.

@HumbleMechanic 23 сағат бұрын

you can buy mine HAHAH! The car overall has been so much fun

@The1sunnydmusic 21 сағат бұрын

@@HumbleMechanic lol I'll go through all the videos of you mk8 and decide from there!

@user-oj4sk7rp1u Күн бұрын

Just picked uo my 2024 GTI mk8. no bugs and everything works. never buy the first year so wait till 2026!

@davidgrenon4384 Күн бұрын

Yeah you right have 2024 work like a charm, stay away of the first year model or first edition shi.....😊

@Daeyx 2 күн бұрын

I passed on the MK8 after seeing the interior and haptics and changed brand entirely. I had a Mk6 GTI, MK6 R, and finally a Mk 7.5 R, finally sold it 3 months ago and bought a Lexus IS500. Other than missing the manual and dealing with a slower (albeit extremely reliable) transmission. It was the best decision I made. No more rattly interiors and nothing but V8 goodness.

@JacesOwnWorld 2 күн бұрын

And $80+ dollar fill-ups to get 15mpg’s 🤣

@Daeyx 2 күн бұрын

@@JacesOwnWorld nah, 18 city 28 highway, not much worse then my mk 7.5.

@4ampaul 2 күн бұрын

@@Daeyxnot to mention the IS500 will actually hold value

@ivanjovanovic362 2 күн бұрын

Yeah bro no shit, that's completely different car and class and everything. How do you compare those two like wtf is your point? 😂

@Daeyx Күн бұрын

@@ivanjovanovic362 it’s not that much of a stretch, Golf Rs in Canada are 60k now, I bought my 7.5 for 45K in 2019. The problem is the MK8 is in a class of car it has no business being in for its price.

@jaskamoh7255 Күн бұрын

Just got an engine cover last week for my 2023 GTI under VW service notice.

@rob5631 Күн бұрын

Just curious, how many trips to the dealership did you have to make for this car compared to your Mk 7.5? I despise going to the dealership and will avoid going there as much as possible. (I have trust issues, I know). I am personally glad that I bought one of the last Mk 7.5 R's and have zero regrets not waiting for the Mk 8. I plan for this R to be my final new car purchase (hoping to retire in 4 years) and I really don't think that I could be happier unless I moved into an RS3 which is financially out of the question. As always, love your content and can't wait to see what your next project is.

@aidonis98 2 күн бұрын

I test drove it on launch, and hit the r drive mode button twice on accident during the test drive (It's right where I have my thumb). That was that for me. The 8.5 is supposedly December, with the triumphant return of actual buttons. We will see how that goes, as this will likely be the last ICE Golf R.

@HumbleMechanic Күн бұрын

Not for the R. The R will have haptic still. Allegedly anyway

@hovan2yourjunk Күн бұрын

I wonder if the GTI buttons can be retrofitted. I’m sure DAP will come up with something

@MishtahPoog Күн бұрын

Yes, like Charles mentioned, the 8.5 Golf R will be haptic-controls only. According to VW, they've modified the sensitivity of the controls on the periphery of the wheel so it's very hard to accidentally activate them.

@MishtahPoog Күн бұрын

@@hovan2yourjunk If I would ever buy a Mk. 8 with a haptic wheel, the first thing I'd do is see if they could swap the steering wheel for the one with buttons. There's no way it wouldn't work -- not only did VW already have a version of the wheel with buttons on lower trim levels of the same exact car, but just in the name of cost-cutting and inter-platform efficiency I'm sure the wheels are probably plug-and-play.

@highmolecularweightRDX Күн бұрын

@@HumbleMechanic With the sensitivity "improvements", how will the haptics compare to real buttons?

@verde629 Күн бұрын

Great Vid! What are your opinions on the new Mk8.5 I personally think it looks amazing

@RaceCarFriends Күн бұрын

Great video everything you said was valid and real, also cool Chapelle Show intro lol.

@Gonin60 Күн бұрын

I have an MK8. I unlike most love the tech! A light up bar at night is the only thing I wished it had for the slider.

@Fk8_Theory Күн бұрын

My son just bought a mk8 gti. Such a great car. Impressed thoroughly and is beginning to convert me from jdm to euro

@seansomers2903 Күн бұрын

I very much appreciate the chappelle’s show reference! Most of the younger guys in the shop nowadays don’t even know what Chappelle’s show is! 😢

@UndermobzRec Күн бұрын

The looks grew on me and it looks really awesome with a wide bodykit. If im going for a later golf i would pick a 3door mk7 or a mk8. Budget(and personal choice) go more towards a mk4

@waynemurphy4288 Күн бұрын

Got my car around the same time. And I absolutely love my golf R. Looking at the 8.5 im tempted to make the jump, but with the new law coming into effect on the 7th of july in the uk and europe. Im not too sure how restrictive the new ISA system will be.

@themarvel2004 Күн бұрын

At least you could option a manual - here in Australia we're stuck with dsg only for Mk8 😢

@kevinclarke9933 Күн бұрын

I’m in the UK. It took two years for my 2023 Clubsport to be delivered. It the meantime the specifications had been updated and the prices increased. Volkswagen honoured the original deal and even bettered when it came to trade-in. (What are US dealers thinking?) I love the car. All those gripes across social media from people who drove the car for a couple of hours and thought they knew it.

@JohnClinger1 Күн бұрын

@HumbleMechanic - Any tips on removing those fender extender plastic bits? Can you just pull them off or are there any fasteners or anything?

@davidsawyer1599 Күн бұрын

Thanks for your observations. I enjoy watching your presentations. The slowness of the technology is more than likely related to the vendor or vendors VW gets to choose from. Unfortunately, VW, like the rest of us, is captive to choosing from blah to awful. Engine covers. Isn't the job of the engine cover to hold heat in? That's great for first start up in cool to cold weather. After that, not so much. My wild guess is that the engine actually performs better without it. Have a great day, Charles!

@66rollincoal Сағат бұрын

I very much like the looks of the mk8's and that liquimoly graphics on yours just looks so good.

@pkt1213 Күн бұрын

I don't understand VAGs war on buttons. I can't touch my phone while driving, but it's cool to strap a massive table to the dash and scroll 3 menus to get my heated seats on.

@TOPWEWOK Күн бұрын

I’ve loved my Mk8 R, quirks and all. It’s really awesome on the snow.

@draneldavid4472 2 күн бұрын

You’re awesome Charles. We need more MK8 vids on YT!

@draneldavid4472 2 күн бұрын

Let’s go 3pedal gang gang and coverless engines gang gang lol.

@MrCthur 2 күн бұрын

I want to spend the money where I spend the time and have a (once configured) no-look, minimum effort HMI. Happy with the mk7.5 GTI SE infotainment (at a time its knobs/buttons are what brought me back to VW since other manufacturers were experimenting with none). The R center console/button/cup holder in general just reminds me of 2002 focus- weird for 45k. I'm just grumpy and frustrated, because that drivetrain sounds sooooo nice.

@mxderry 16 сағат бұрын

Love my MK7.5...waiting for the MK9

@kevinklein1875 Күн бұрын

I just traded in my 2018 7.5 Golf R for the last 6 spd 2024 Golf R and LOVE it!!!!!

@t0eknee959 Күн бұрын

Lotta people have reported that software updates to the larger screen make it snappier. I have the smaller screen in my 40AE and it’s okay but occasionally does freeze and reboot. I’ve also heard there’s an update for it too

@stevenmcmaster Күн бұрын

who needs an engine cover n-e-way. not a fan of touch screens, but hey, its the sign of the times. you get used to a new car after a couple of years, and that is your exact experience. looking forward to the next epic project.

@BenLinn Күн бұрын

lol the last part reminded me of Mulan "dishonor on you, dishonor on your cow" etc

@robjaeger2132 Күн бұрын

We have a 2022 GTI. Just finished a 2k mile road trip. I will agree on the infotainment system. It sucks! Everything about it sucks. I hate they stole my knobs. The lag and general functionality is terrible. That being said I adapted to the things that annoyed me. Everything else on the car is great. Was impressed with adaptive cruise, Eco mode is phenomenal on gas and the heads up display on our autobahn is elite. We drove through Moab and monument valley and I couldn’t get enough of how well it handled.

@oreostastegoods Күн бұрын

That outro was fantastic

@Fresh-tw7ev Күн бұрын

I’ll stick to my 2019 Alltrack which was the final model year run in the states. They are now officially rare and very comfortable.

@moss550M Күн бұрын

*on both my MK5 GTI and MK6 TDI the sunglasses holder has been broken before I got them lol... but it helps that I cant leave much in my car because organized car theft is a boomin in Colorado Springs

@jeanjeanmich Күн бұрын

Removing the strut from the engine bay was enough for me to skip vw from now on. If they skimp on a hood support, that was there on the prior model, what else they cheapin' on?

@irvnegrin2211 Күн бұрын

Still love my limestone grey mk7 R with analog gauges and buttons. Call me old school. BTW, the adaptive cruise control is fantastic.

@mikef3300 Күн бұрын

Still driving my MK6 Golf R. It’s been pretty much trouble free with just routine maintenance and the window regulator needing replaced. Doesn’t come close to 30mpg though lol. More like 18-20

@dksaevs Күн бұрын

I HAVE A 22 mk8 and my biggest complaint is BLxxxx401 STILL LOCKED. Your review is spot on.

@PeteTheL337 Күн бұрын

Some of those complains sounds an aweful lot like what I had for my Seat Leon 2021(VAG). The infotainment system while a lot better today, still has its moments where I want to tear out the last bit of hair I have left. The climate and volume adjuster on the infotainment not being illumated. The top holder is actually fine but I've had to replace an engine control unit and the wiring harness connected to it(well not me, the workshop cause I cant do that) and 2 water pumps. I've also had to replace buttons on the steering wheel as they broke and update the cars firmware trice.. all in 6 months of ownership. I was just about ready to sell it and take the loss and the icing on the cake was the lane assist feature that tried to murder me twice on the highway because it couldn't figure out the temporary markings during road work. Thanks to kit like OBDeleven, that lane assist will never bother me again. I will say that now, I'm actually starting to grow a little fond of the car. It lags a manual shifter as its the plugin hybrid version but my gosh I think its a pretty car and surpringly roomy. Spite only having 204 horse power it's also fairly rapid. I really want a new exhaust on it, preferable one from the golf GTI as i've heard some stories about it being done, but due to all the ffing rules in my country(Denmark) that is going to be a hard one to accomplish. And for those who don't know, the cops take your car if they find such modifications in my country. There are tons of court cases going on about it at the moment.

@pojay52 Күн бұрын

Nice Haters Ball routine! Thanks for the review.

@OhCorny 2 күн бұрын

Love the Dave intro

@adamg3911 Күн бұрын

Do you have any content showing the engine, turbo, fueling, intercooling, ecm differences between MK7R Versus MK8R?

@jameshaulenbeek5931 Күн бұрын

😂 that ending felt like you were gonna go Ugly Kid Joe! I've seen a few Mk 8 models in the wild, but not many. If I could afford a new car, I'd certainly love to see what kinda of special edition *might* come out...

@davidmanning7052 Күн бұрын

Thank you! Peace & God Bless, You and Yours...

@MrTurboFour Күн бұрын

I don't hate you and your content! Keep up all the great work!

@scotturich 2 күн бұрын

I got a Mk8 GTI in Jan of 22 so a very early car and i was lucky and I didn’t pay a markup, had the shifter problems, steering wheel, engine cover never replaced, coolant hose issue. I still liked it but the SCCA allowed Anniversary and 380 edition in on my Autocross class it made my S obsolete and I decided to go with a Type R.

@MattHughes_89 Күн бұрын

Interesting that North America haven’t got an engine cover yet, we here in the UK have been refitting new engine covers on the Mk8 Rs and GTIs for a while now

@startodo Күн бұрын

Hi Charles are you still running the Milltek non res cat back system on your Golf R?

@TheSibster86 Күн бұрын

Coming from a number of gtis over the last 11 years I’ve had 3 mk5 2 mk6 1 mk7 and I currently own a 40th anniversary mk8. Personally i love the styling on the mk8 more then any of them. They all have there flaws. My mk7 was short lived to only about 8 months from being totaled in an accident in 2017. Didn’t really like the mk7. My mk6 2 door base model was one of the funnest cars I ever drove on and off the track. Never had an issues with it. Was tuned within the first 1k miles. Basic stage 2 car with good wheels and r compound tires and coilovers. It never slipped a beat. Only complaint I have on the mk8 would be that everything is through the touch screen. Bring back the buttons!! lol but it’s not that bad.

@tbix1963 Күн бұрын

They still lost me with a 4dr golf. Now they add my other item I hate passionately no real buttons somehow I missed that. The only saving grace I heard lately is that VW is teaming up with Rivian for their interface software. It looks very impressive in the Rivian, let’s hope they bring over a few other things like the led headlights that turn off the segments that would impact oncoming traffic when the high beams are on.

@laalaa99stl 2 күн бұрын

It has those three magic words that are music to my ears though: limited slip diff. Too bad I'd probably only rarely be able to use it to its full potential. I don't see Spektrum ever coming back. You'll just have to take you car to a good paint shop. How 'bout a nice Robin Egg Blue?