Hunter Field Target (HFT) Challenge - Episode 1 - Weihrauch HW77K and Pellet Test

Hunter Field Target (HFT) Challenge - Episode 1 - Weihrauch HW77K and Pellet Test - theGunLocker

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6 ай бұрын

So it begins...my HFT (Hunter Field Target) Challenge has begun and in this episode, I try out a load of different .22 pellets to see which ones my Weihrauch HW77K prefers.
See my review on this rifle: • Weihrauch HW77K - Airg...
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As always, my videos are lengthy so time stamps / chapters below if you want to fast forward or skip sections
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Pellet Test:
1. Victory Shock 14.6 grains - 00:05:18
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2. Air Arms Diabolo Field 16 grains - 00:07:57
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3. JSB Match Diabolo Exact Jumbo 15.89 grains - 00:10:38
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4. JSB Match Diabolo Hades 15.89 grains - 00:13:03
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5. Bisley Long Range Gold - 00:15:46
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6. RWS Superdome 14.5 grains - 00:19:08
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7. H&N Field Target Trophy 14.66 grains - 00:22:07
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8. Premier Ultra Magnum 14.3 grains - 00:24:30
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9. Crosman Premier 14.3 grains - 00:27:00
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10. H&N Baracuda Hunter 18.21 grains - 00:29:31
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11. Webley VMX Pell 14.66 grains - 00:32:23
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12. Norma Golden Trophy FT Heavy 17.6 grains - 00:39:24
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Summary - 00:39:24
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Пікірлер: 76

@TheKillboxer 6 ай бұрын

As mentioned before, Hold Hold Hold, look at the energy transfer into the rest and table during each shot, thats why the hand under the rifle is important

@V4victory2025 6 ай бұрын

@TheKillboxer 100% agree 👍🏼

@user-dq6ix8xs2p 6 ай бұрын

As said below, you need to let the gun recoil naturally backwards. Resting the fore end on something solid will throw your groupings all over the place. I find the best groupings with mine, is by placing the fore end on me upturned clenched fist, as that's the way I shoot prone while touching the peg. Wishing you well in your HFT comps.

@Kurt_Steiner 6 ай бұрын

I shoot a 97 and if i shoot it rested as you have it goes all over the place... rest it on my hand its a different ball game like a lazer....try baracudas or jts dead center as mine seems to like them....all the best

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

There'll be an episode on different holds and what works best for me... thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. All the best

@markbrown4127 5 ай бұрын

Me too! I use a sandbag for my HW100 sometimes, if I want to make it even more accurate and boring, but if I try to use the bag with the 97 the shots are everywhere. Then I just hold the gun rested on my knee or whatever, and the accuracy and consistency is back! I actually came on here to post this very thing!

@paulspeller968 6 ай бұрын

now not that i am an expert but what i did notice and it’s exactly because i used to do it (again no criticism just an observation) you pull the trigger and let go almost immediately what i found works for me if i pull the trigger and don’t let go until i see the pellet hit the target . for me personally i found i got a lot less of those wondering shots not off by a mike but those ones were you think i am sure that was bang on . as for hft shooting range finding and shooting in the wind mate is the hardest issues to face well unsupported kneels and standers are also a challenge 🤣🤣🤣 . its funny but today i was down the range practicing my trigger control as in follow through and had some pretty outstanding results . like i say it may not be for you but it definitely made a difference for me just that split second that i held that trigger back after i take the shot

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

I totally agree... you're not the first to say that and it's definitely something I have to work on...fun and games. All the best, thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment constructively.

@V4victory2025 6 ай бұрын

Look at this logically you’re using arguably the most accurate spring rifle ever made and tried loads of different pellets and the groups are horrendous! Your hold and rest is perfect for a PCP however springers are a completely different kettle of fish please use the artillery hold you’ll amaze yourself.

@BionicRusty 6 ай бұрын

Fully agree. The barrel is visibly lifting. A springer needs to recoil rearwards in order to get the best out of what is an amazing rifle.

@sunnst 6 ай бұрын

As already mentioned,change the rest and shoot from off your hand and if possible practice how you will have to hold and shoot a hft competition. Then re do your pellet test.

@alanmullock381 6 ай бұрын

Blooming big hill you're climbing Mark!🤯🤯🤯🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎😎

@davidrobinson4553 6 ай бұрын

A few years ago a Good Friend and Myself used filming our technique whilst training as County/ Country Archers it was invaluable and tiny but significant mistakes were shown in the footage. Looking forward to following your journey Mark. PS. I Remember with my old 77k no matter what I tried I always went back to Eley Wasp 5.5's (They also did 5.6 Brit .22 back in the day) simpler times maybe.

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

Now archery is a tough sport to master. I've got a recurve bow but tore my rotator cuff last year and had to stop whilst I get it fixed. Thanks for taking the time to comment and of course watching. All the best

@MrRockstar1968 6 ай бұрын

I test around 120 different brands and weights of pellets and the variation in groups can be quite significant. Some rifles may only have tight gourps with 5 or 6 different pellets types out of 120 and other rifles may be far less pellet fussy.

@mazshah1534 6 ай бұрын

Good luck, all the best excellent video

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

Thank you! And thanks for watching. All the best

@keith6930 6 ай бұрын

TBF those are all pretty poor grouping, the Weihrauch isn't that pellet fussy. You'll be holding and shooting completely differently in the field and would suggest maybe trying that next time and see if the grouping is any better?

@24745037 6 ай бұрын

Shooting with cold hands ain't easy, i can't help thinking your rest wobbles around and your rifle is gripping the foam and could be battling with the unstable rest on recoil? All the best on your journey 💪👍 PS i won't mention the unstable platform any more😅

@Steve_7867 6 ай бұрын

Not sure you mentioned the range. If it's about 30yrds then those groups don't look very good. Should be close to a ragged one hole 20p piece size assuming no wind in that comfy shooting position. When you do HFT it won't be that easy as you'll be in various positions which ain't easy with a springer. You'll def' benefit with a hamster. You can fit one using 10mm inserts and they won't spoil the stock.

@SpringsAndPistons 6 ай бұрын

Go and lay down on a mat, with a peg, get to know your rifle in the way you wil shoot it in hft, not on a bench

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

Soon enough...all the best and thanks for watching

@cjnev9618 6 ай бұрын

may I suggest if you're double grouping with your pellets but still on almost the same elevation you are more than likely canting your gun , i use a scope cant bubble level on my hw95k .177 and it makes all the difference, and believe me the hw95 k is much harder gun to shoot , hold sensitive is an understatement . where as my hw97k .22 will shoot pretty much anything I put in it , jsb exact , express , aa field , fx , accupell and even Bisley practise flat nose , all will give me 5p groupings at 25 meters . I also shoot with both eyes open , obviously my main focus is down the scope but I find it help stopping the occasional flinch when the shot is fired 👍🏻

@jskyg68 6 ай бұрын

I set up an indoor range, it's only 10 yards but that's enough to practice and I can definitely tell if my guns like certain pellets or not.

@redpillnibbler4423 6 ай бұрын

It’s a good way to select contenders for longer range.

@user-vm3tk6uj3s 4 ай бұрын

Hi G.L i have the same rifle as you and have tried many pellets at 25yards as thats my zero and at that range i can hit the bull constantly using RWS HOBBY in 11.9 grain 22 this pellet may not suite your rifle as my HW77 is very old mk1 made in 1983 but it wont hurt if you give them a try love your blog all the best fred.

@theGunLocker 4 ай бұрын

Hi Fred, thanks for the advice. I'll certainly give them a try. All the best and thanks for dropping me a line

@funkygrib1 6 ай бұрын

Just an observation. H&N FTT 5.53 are my .22 HW95 go to. Weihrauch FTT are also OK, they are a H&N FTT with a extra small band between the head and skirt. Today +1C the weihrauch pellets out classed my preferred H&N FTT @ 45M ??? "Dont ask I dont know why" Also try 5.52 and 5.54 there will be a slight difference. BTW I only shoot .22, your a Brave Man ;-) GUESING those holdover distances ! I salute you sir for trying.

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

Hi @funkygrib1....thanks for watching and more importantly, thanks for the constructive comment. I may well end up with egg on my face over this, Ha! All the best and Happy New Year

@samwheller8919 6 ай бұрын

Have u checked the stock screws to see if they are loose I was shooting my hw99 imp mk2 the other day and it’s wasn’t shooting as it would normally when I checked the screws one was loose and after tightening the gun was shooting bang on 👍

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

Thinking about it, I had just taken it out of the stock to clean it. Will recheck to see if everything is tight. You never know! All the best and thanks for taking the time to comment

@philipbooth9755 6 ай бұрын

As a “newbie” to HFT an AA TX 200 in .177 may have been a better choice.’ Is the 77 run in? Why .22? I always thought you did rush shots on previous videos , but thought that was to speed things up for the video? Resting a springer is a big no-no you’re absolutely totally wasting your time pellet testing doing that, that’s why there’s no conclusive results! You need to master the artillery hold, with left hand cupped under the forend in the identical place each shot - grip is critical. You need to test as you would mainly shoot in competition! Up the peg prone? Seated etc? Go running to get fit and reduce heart rate, wear a heart rate monitor on your wrist watch Small objective ie 32 mm 8-10x fixed mag is the best scope choice. Weighing pellets would be of benefit too. When pellet testing I’ve always used at least 50, and barrel cleaned between different choices, 5 is no good! There’ll be too much lead from the previous pellets in the bore.

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

Hi Philip...sorry for the delayed reply. Watch the next episode and I'll explain my thought process behind this. All the best and Happy New Year

@Pokemjon 3 ай бұрын

Weigh each pellet. Then use the ones that are the same weight and best condition

@theGunLocker 3 ай бұрын

I intend to. All the best

@kevinp1948 6 ай бұрын

With a springer the very small recoil could effect the height as you are resting the stock on the change in thickness which may be on a slightly different place on some of the shots Try placing it on the level part of stock to see if it improves

@matty1255 6 ай бұрын

The best pellet is almost always JSB, H&N or QYS.

@riendekkers9539 6 ай бұрын

I have been studying and looking at the pellet test , it looked like hail was being shot everywhere the pellets ended up nowher not a nice group , i hope you find out what the problem is , there is still a long way to go , i wish you luck .

@Airgunfunrich 6 ай бұрын

Ideally I would say/think you want to be shooting in the positions you will be when competing….

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

That's coming... I'll explain my plan going forward in my next episode. All the best

@alanevans9483 6 ай бұрын

Specsavers mate lol

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

Ooof! That's harsh. But saying that, I've just picked up a couple pairs of specs...from Boots!

@andybrown8293 6 ай бұрын

My advice to you would be shoot holding onto a post in a prone position so you get used to zeroing from that position. Secondly using a .22 really is making life difficult for yourself. The flattest trajectory is the best for your aimpoint spread. Best of luck!

@majorscope 6 ай бұрын

Interesting. I took two guns onto my garden range and got similar groupings to you. Could it be anything to do with weather/humidity?. I gave up and decided to try another day.

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

I do struggle with the cold...need to man up! Sometimes it just doesn't flow right and today was one of those days but it's important to keep it real. Saying that, cold and humidity will have an affect... especially when we're looking at thousands of a millimeter deviation at muzzle making all the difference at distance

@DG-19826 6 ай бұрын

Have you tried FTT’s

@zimborapt5351 6 ай бұрын

I think .177 could performe bether (and to avoid the win effect you can increase the weight of the pellet). Have you tested any Cometa 400 Fusion of 400 series to see is performance as well??? Have fun.

@davidoldboy5425 6 ай бұрын

.22 the best choice???? and the full rifle rather than a carbine would be my choice for target work, so in my humble opinion you're making it hard before you start, but hey ho.

@kitcarson7572 6 ай бұрын

Just a Hint to try. Try it and see if it works in yours. I have seven HW rifles although they are all FAC so is it the same for 12 rule, dunno worth a try though. Try the 11.75 GTO non lead pellet, forget all the rumors and urban tales and give them a try. Another one is the H and N FTT in 5.53 or 5.54 head size, one of those will work well, never had a HW shoot 5.55 well. Cheers Kit

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the advice, I'll see if I can get my hands on some...and thanks for watching. All the best.

@redauwg911 6 ай бұрын

H and N FTT in 5.53 or 5.54 these are the best in my HW97 in 22...

@anthonybritwistle3103 6 ай бұрын

I think 1.77 slugs 12 gr would be interesting and get a 45 mtr good grouping with a sub 12 lbs rifle

@redpillnibbler4423 6 ай бұрын

Only one way to find out.

@mackem7311 6 ай бұрын

Did you zero gun in or just shot loads of different pellets

@michaelholt7963 6 ай бұрын

You don't seem that positive today, try another day. Probably be better indoors untill you find a good pellet, those norma seemed good, quick get your hands round a nice hot brew. Enjoyed that thanks!

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

Thank Michael...the cold was getting to me a bit. Need to toughen up! All the best

@Nick-Antoniou 6 ай бұрын

Have you cleaned your barrel recently

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

A couple of months back...once I decide on a pellet going forward, I'll clean and polish it before properly leading it in and going on from there

@michaelhicks708 6 ай бұрын

Correction dividends

@michaelhicks708 6 ай бұрын

Check your scope mounts, it realy pays dividens.

@redpillnibbler4423 6 ай бұрын

And stock screws

@V4victory2025 6 ай бұрын

Put your hand under the rifle fore end and hold it gently’ you can literally see the rifle bouncing about on your rest.

@adventurebeforedementia.2248 6 ай бұрын

If that was my gun I’d be really disappointed ☹️….I’ve got various old BSA’s that group a lot better,and also not as pellet fussy….just saying 🙂

@redpillnibbler4423 6 ай бұрын

It’s not the gun it’s resting the forend on a too solid surface making it jump.

@Mike_P646 6 ай бұрын

Shooting a .22 springer in hft might be making things unnecessarily hard for yourself? Good luck though 👍

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

Hi @Mike_P646...I'll explain why in my next episode. All the best and thanks for watching

@shaunharris3690 6 ай бұрын

Is that gun shots in the back ground?

@michaelholt7963 6 ай бұрын

No a car back fireing

@shaunharris3690 6 ай бұрын

Funny Fucker! @@michaelholt7963

@redauwg911 6 ай бұрын

Wouldn't a 177 be better?

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

A 177 has a flatter shot no doubt but is affected by winds more...but the challenge is taking my HW77K as is (or as near as) to a major tournament. This isn't about taking an easier option for me, it's seeing whether I can do as I preach! All the best.

@redauwg911 6 ай бұрын

@@theGunLocker Can't wait to follow along, thank you for the videos👍

@stevenjarrett 6 ай бұрын

Why 22?

@theGunLocker 6 ай бұрын

Sorry for the late reply... I'll explain why in the next episode. All the best

@jamieogorman9461 6 ай бұрын

The set up is totally wrong for a spring gun

@christighe3203 25 күн бұрын

Your technique is totally wrong, those guns are as accurate as any pcp in the right hands. Firstly hold, you are not holding the front end at all, Spring guns need a gentle hold back and front and the same hold every shot. You are also snatching at the trigger and not holding for the follow through. As for pellet choice the 77 is not really pellet fussy as long as you use good grade pellets.