I really like your reviews. I think your a great guy to be on Here talking about firearms. Honest genuine guy that is knowledgeable and puts effort in each review. I'm big on the semi-autos that we get in Canada so I always get excited when you do one. Also, for people that aren't necessarily in the firearms community, I think your a great personality to represent us.
@wedge30811 ай бұрын
Anytime you buy BCL you become a Bata tester
@Solar_sigma_4 ай бұрын
I've had mine for a year, over a thousand rounds. It had feeding issues but after sending it to BCL it's been great ever since.
@GeorgesStHenry2 ай бұрын
Did they fix it for free?
@frenchie_maple11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reivew. It really helps my search for the best canadian 180 clone!
@mikelalonde687410 ай бұрын
You just saved me a ton a money. Thank you good sir! Just subbed
@jonenglish661711 ай бұрын
Cool rifle, It is a shame it doesn't run. BCL has the same QC issues as NEA.
@BlackBearOutdoors11 ай бұрын
Loving the backdrop :) Pretty rifle and I had high hopes for them. Sorry to hear you got problems with it.
@MeshFrequency11 ай бұрын
That's my favourite Canadian gun chanel over here.
@tomthebomb4511 ай бұрын
It’s tough seeing these reviews. I mean, it’s your experience so it is what it is. I have a Siberian and mine has run well thus far. I really like the gun.
@Huntinggearguy11 ай бұрын
How many rounds do you have into it?
@tomthebomb4511 ай бұрын
@@Huntinggearguy I’m just over 900 rounds at this point with mine.
@wolffswildwest640211 ай бұрын
Mine has been perfect had one screw come loose on the top of the handgard..locktight and done that's all I've had to do
@ThatRedMachinist8 ай бұрын
@@wolffswildwest6402 but how many rounds in are you?
@wolffswildwest64028 ай бұрын
@@ThatRedMachinist I am definitely over 1500 at this point
@vadimvolvo6 ай бұрын
Thanks 4 review. Didn't expect they bring the new generation to work properly :) will wait for the next one
@timothylandon00116 сағат бұрын
Thank you!
@81mrsmitty11 ай бұрын
I am glad I just bit the bullet and bought a bren 2. It’s kinda a shame atr didn’t build a 180clone. If they had done one at least you would know it would work.
@sled926310 ай бұрын
Well maybe BCL’s QC isn’t great. Sorry to hear that you’re having issues. I’ve got around 1500 issue free rounds through mine.
@TonyMontana_.10 ай бұрын
I bought one around 3-4months ago At first i was so disappointed! I litterly hated evrything about it and regretted buying it! Brought it 3-4x to the range and i was just having alot of problems with it constantly! Id shot 20-30 rounds and just change rifles! Then about a month ago someone told me they where having issues also and eventually they all stopped! So i bought 1000 rounds and gave it a full range day! Around half way through the day it was cycling perfectly! No more jams! Nothing! Brought it home installed a carbon fiber bipod and a 6-24x50mm riton scope. And now it’s in my top 5 firearms i own! I would count on it with my life and i know it would shoot! Im very consistent at long ranges! Not one jam or failure in over 2000 rounds!! It’s just so fun simple and easy setup i can sit there for hours shooting without getting bored! Give it a chance it’s worth evry dollar once it’s heavily broken into! Would i use it to run around with or for home defence hell no! I set mine up specifically to accuracy and to have fun with! Won’t be winning any competition’s for damn sure! I have multiple serious rifles that id use for different situations! But if you’re looking to have fun its a great gun!
@TwistysGunShowАй бұрын
I hope you're right I'm at about 350 to 400 rounds and it's been garbage so far, I've had at least 30 to 40 failure to feed and a couple other issues
@bruce85011 ай бұрын
Mine has worked flawless for me so far. It only had one jam for the first 600 rounds and I've only cleaned the bcg once. Hope mine won't become unrelaible like what I have read on the internet
@Earthshipowner10 ай бұрын
Amen on that... i think ive put 6-800 thru mine with no issues... seems to shoot to aprox 1.25 moa... i do clean it religiously... when i first got her i did a full tear down and clean (getting the gas block off was the only pain).. its too bad there have been quality issues.. i think the think on that is that they want to get them into peoples hands , so the government can't or will have a harder time in taking em from us... and then when there are issues they will take care of it....
@seedsoutdoors37219 күн бұрын
Can you change the mag release to the left side ?
@bigideasrhinomilk427811 ай бұрын
Not surprised. Hopefully their V3 (?) is better or the Templar V2 fixes the issues that rifle has
@markkent843611 ай бұрын
I'm pretty interested in the new templar, would love to try one out.
@shaangill604711 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing a review on this rifle how is your WK180c gen 1 doing so far just curious?
@Huntinggearguy11 ай бұрын
Sold it long ago but they don't do well with high round counts either. I've meant to do an update video comparing the alternatives on the market, instead we'll just cover it on Slam Fire Radio next week.
@shaangill604711 ай бұрын
Oh i see i look forward to hearing more about that on the Slam Fire Radio show thanks again.@@Huntinggearguy
@cobramastr695711 ай бұрын
Hey, will you be doing a review on thw Templar Gen 2? Thanks
@Huntinggearguy11 ай бұрын
Maybe at some point.
@Z33risH11 ай бұрын
Hoping we see some reviews on them soon. All the changes they made are promising and should cover most of the issues people had with gen 1.
@sheslikeheroin166111 ай бұрын
It's too bad your experience had some issues. Im 500ish round into my siberian so far without a single hiccup. Soon as i got it home I tore it apart degreased all the component in the trigger, bolt and any where something could move. There was a thin layer of preservative grease everywhere which I read some stories of it mixing with out and gumming it up. I greased every moving part with g96 grease which is use for my garand l, xcr-l, rdb and gsg 16,they all run best with grease instead of oil.the gsg was a jam-o-matic until i abandoned oil for grease. I know a few other people with siberians who have been great so far. If you still have rifle id be curious if lubing it with a thicker grease would help reliability.
@Huntinggearguy11 ай бұрын
You shouldn't see a difference between grease and oil for the stress that the parts on this gun see. It was well oiled and the action was nice and slick by the time I ran it at that rifle match.
@dsmtsi10 ай бұрын
I have been looking for a good gun grease for the heavier wear areas. I'll give the g96 a try. How thick do you put it on?
@sheslikeheroin166110 ай бұрын
@@Huntinggearguy sorry i didnt see your reply, thats fair but I've had several firearms where they should have been fine with oiling but werent hence my comment. My old mossberg 352ka and kb, my tangfoglio appeals in 22 and 22mag all ran unreliably and, they fed and extracted poorly and were all fixed by switching to grease. With oil they all felt slick and smooth until put under a load then theyd bind up.
@sheslikeheroin166110 ай бұрын
@@dsmtsi depends on the firearm. I usually put a dab on moving components like springs and guide rods and manually run them until they have a thin film, ill wipe of excess lumps or ad more as needed, i repeat the same for cam pin grooves or surfaces the bolt carrier rides on. Usually a thing film is good and ill get a little bit that accumalates in the receiver after firing. For my garand i cake it pretty thick under the guider rod and along the recoil spring, and smear the bolt and its rails i used a dab a bit bigger than a pea for my siberian Even with a heavy coat you will use less than you expect, i have a fairly big collection and being rural shoot almost daily in the summer, i maintain stuff regularily and will usually only need a couple syringes of the g96 to do everything for the year. I dont grease my bolt guns they are fine with oil except for a couple really worn out cooeys.
@dsmtsi10 ай бұрын
@@sheslikeheroin1661 Thanks for the reply, I need it for a break action shot gun that actually spcficies grease in certain areas, but may try it for a few others. I have been looking for a good gun grease for a while.
@clemkelly21597 ай бұрын
The 180 now the srv.. every rifle I plan on getting gets bad reviews.. not just here every where... what would be a good semi auto in this range... anybody got a suggestion
@Huntinggearguy7 ай бұрын
This video might help: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7WSq65zuJ-7p6M.html
@spetsnaz8926 ай бұрын
In this price range? Nothing... Gotta spend some money for the combat proven rifles
@Solar_sigma_4 ай бұрын
Lockheart Tactical Raven. It's worth the price
@tazzthedoodle78615 ай бұрын
I really like the look and the non restricted but BCL has burned me in the past
@ricin824 ай бұрын
So if im willing to pay more for something reliable what do i get??
@lotfyken275911 ай бұрын
How does thing compares to a templar ?
@kevinlowe64677 ай бұрын
Will you eventually sell it, because of the reliability?
@NorthwestScout11 ай бұрын
Mr MeatShower channel did a 1000 round test on video…gun didn’t fair too well. Still issues to resolve
@556Cross8 ай бұрын
1000 round tests are a meltdown, you can find czs or iwis that would fail that also.
@3DVIDEOSMurray11 ай бұрын
Been waiting for most of 4 years lol
@nick5408 ай бұрын
How does this compare to the Kodiak Gen 2? I am trying to decide between these two
@Huntinggearguy8 ай бұрын
They're both kinda bad in their own way. What kind of shooting do you want to do?
@nick5408 ай бұрын
@@Huntinggearguy I am a total noob. So far just at the range to practice but will be for home defence and hunting as well as collecting. Just getting into the hobby. So far I have the IWI Tavor 7 and GSG 16 for a little plinker. But wanted something nice and robust and sexy. I like the look of the Kodiak. Can you recommend anything? Thanks for helping a noob to the hobby!
@nick5408 ай бұрын
@@Huntinggearguy I also only have my non- restricted license
@theangrycanuck833111 ай бұрын
You could use your off hand to pull the charging handle. Feels like 1600 is alot for what you get and quality control seems to be hit and miss. I think I'm just going to stick with a Lockhart Tac build or an R18 Sterling.
@alexxu300411 ай бұрын
it's front heavy, charge it with off hand hurts especially with factory trigger guard
@theangrycanuck833111 ай бұрын
@@alexxu3004 rest stock in shoulder, tilt up to even the weight, use elbow to support if needed
@sk8snwmx11 ай бұрын
@@alexxu3004 I find this to be a really sleek light rifle, maybe because I'm used to flinging around my .22 PRS rimfire that weights more then twice this... LOL
@theangrycanuck833111 ай бұрын
@@sk8snwmx Homie said "Sniper trainer? I AM THE SNIPER!"
@alexxu300411 ай бұрын
@@theangrycanuck8331 ya, but that's not optimal either
@kennethbrantley958211 ай бұрын
I really like your review. Can you use Is black powder firearms? In america some people hunt with them including me. What about Cap'n ball revolvers? In america, in most states. Can you do that in canada yesterday?
@Huntinggearguy11 ай бұрын
No handgun hunting here, but we can use black powder. I used a muzzleloader last year, will do again this year.
@kennethbrantley958211 ай бұрын
I found a muzzle loader with a twenty three inch barrel. I am disabled and the shorter barrel Is it easier for me to handle. Do you think it will be as accurate as a 29 inch barrel when hunting?
@alexxu300411 ай бұрын
weird, that right hand bolt release stick out like 10 deg more than mine
@Huntinggearguy11 ай бұрын
It might be messed up. That'd be the second time that it was messed up and sent back for warranty though.
@alexxu300411 ай бұрын
@@Huntinggearguy Ya, i think it might be more of QC issue than design issue(pain in ass gas piston aside), I havn't have any problem yet 1000rds in
@shawnc19367 ай бұрын
I fondled one and I think I need it. I’m just hoping it’s not a lemon. Also a bit sketchy buying used with how their policy is worded.
@MannysWorldd5 ай бұрын
I've put 1000 rounds through mine last year and only had it jam twice. There are good ones out there.
@RM-ub1xd11 ай бұрын
I think the crusader arms Templar or crux arms temp(renamed)rifle gen 1 and new gen 2 chambered in 5.56 is a more robust and better quality rifle then this. It’s more bulky yes but better beefed up internals for sure. For a bit more you can get a trigger tech trigger installed from the factory. I think it’s the best non restricted rifle on the market that uses AR mags. That’s just my 2 cents
@linuscartips973211 ай бұрын
If you spend the money and don’t mind bull pups, the Tavor is vastly superior to all the 180 clones
@RM-ub1xd11 ай бұрын
@@linuscartips9732 I agree but I can’t justify spending that much on a rifle when majority of the videos you see the tavor barely shoot moa at 100 yards. When you have a sw mp sport 2 rifle that cost 2grand less shoot sub moa groups with different types of ammo in a non free floated barrel then it’s not even a hard choice. They can barely get the tavor to shoot a inch group with match grade ammo. Not just smith there are many budget ARs that shoot sub moa and are reliable . Even though we can’t shoot ARs anymore just the thought of proven platforms like the AR that cost way less pushes me away from the tavor . Iraqveteran8888 did a melt down on the smith rifle firing fully auto until it fails. It failed 13 rounds less then a rifle that cost thousands more and failed at the gas tube where it was designed to fail. If I’m going to spend 3grand plus on a tavor it better shoot sub moa with off the shelf rounds. That’s just my 2 cents. But yes it is very reliable with the piston.
@theangrycanuck833111 ай бұрын
Crux is in .308 not .556
@theangrycanuck833111 ай бұрын
Crux is in .308 not .556
@RM-ub1xd11 ай бұрын
@@theangrycanuck8331 I said crusader arms Templar which is 5.56. They changed their name to cru arms because of some name issue. I meant to say cru not crux
@Dmac696911 ай бұрын
Those pins that you were talking about that tend to fall out on the BCG for the firing pin are called cotter pins. Absolutely should try to spread them as much as you can anytime your installing them regardless of what system it's on. And then you just use Pliers to flatten them when you want to pull them
@Huntinggearguy11 ай бұрын
I always refer to the fully split ones as cotter pins, but these solid ones with split tips are a bit different.
@Dmac696911 ай бұрын
@@Huntinggearguy ohh gotcha I don't think I've even seen those!
@theangrycanuck833111 ай бұрын
@@Huntinggearguy they're roll pins
@Huntinggearguy11 ай бұрын
@@theangrycanuck8331 roll pins are hollow in the middle. These are solid pins with split ends.
@theangrycanuck833111 ай бұрын
@@Huntinggearguy oh then just a dowel pin with a split in the end kind of thing?
@tonyzhu40311 ай бұрын
With Domestic and International Components
@user-kt8yp5ho2y11 ай бұрын
Is this rifle made in Canada??
@alexxu300411 ай бұрын
ya
@haterhayder11 ай бұрын
Please please please do the Raven 556, I will literally name my first kid The Hunting Gear Kid if you do!
@theangrycanuck833111 ай бұрын
Yeah they seem to be a good option. Expensive af for a buiod kit but the modularity is pretty nice with the caliber change system
@haterhayder11 ай бұрын
Right?? I want a 300BLK Raven so bad, but there are no reliable reviews that ive seen.@@theangrycanuck8331
@theangrycanuck833111 ай бұрын
@@haterhayder I was looking at using AR15 components to make a 6.5 Gren build myself. They seem to use AR15 parts, bolt included, with their own DI bolt carrier design. Hopefully all in all it's reliable. I hope reviews come out soon.
@georgeligonis619111 ай бұрын
This is in the works I believe
@sk8snwmx11 ай бұрын
As usual, your review is honest with good explanations and in good taste. Too bad you had to test a dud that was already abused. How much oil and dirt is jammed in that thing!! The last video I saw they had SO much oil and dirt in the chamber no wonder it wouldn't go completely into battery a bunch of times. I'm assuming its that same rifle. MIne has been fine so far, (maybe because its newer, all black model) but I'm also only just over 600 rounds of reloads that it likes. The one I have now likes bulk Hornady 55gr w/ 24.5g H335, 2.23 COAL and campro primers cycles good and shoots about 1,1/4" @ 100 out of the Magpul Gen3 mag that it came with and a few I had, that's off bags with a 1-4 LPVO Nikon I had on one of my AR15s. I'm sure it would do WAY better with a trigger that didn't feel like you were dragging a 2x4 down a country road and a real scope off 1x of my PRS rifles that I could actually make a precision shot with when I ladder loaded the ammo.
@Huntinggearguy11 ай бұрын
I cleaned it before shooting so I don't think it was a dirt/gunk thing causing the stoppages.
@sk8snwmx11 ай бұрын
@@Huntinggearguy But why bother keep testing a dud rifle and expect a different result?
@Kai-ky6tf11 ай бұрын
@@sk8snwmxcope
@Al-sg7kr11 ай бұрын
@@sk8snwmxI'd sooner ask BCL why so many of their rifles are duds
@vincentboileau19919 ай бұрын
Could you guide me with your experience.Looking for the best/reliable non-registered semi auto rifle in Canada 2023. Looking for a 1 gun quiver Shooting/Hunting...self defense if needed. Thanks for your help Ps: Also if I could know best place to buy in Canada (I'm from Montreal)
@spetsnaz8926 ай бұрын
If youre still looking, the FAMAE SG-543-1m is a very good option for reliability. It's a modernization of the SIG 540 and in use by several militaries. It's got an AK style bolt/receivier so you know it will last. Not cheap though.... 3600 CAD
@vincentboileau19916 ай бұрын
@spetsnaz892 thanks for taking the time! Ill look into it 🙂
@SpecimenX-900010 ай бұрын
Brittle carrier labs
@msylvestre11 ай бұрын
Saw one at my local gun shop today, asked to handle it... it wasn't great. - Much heavier than it should, - Upper and lower rattled together, - Controls were super stiff, - Metal edges were crude and uncomfortable, Great to have Canadian-made rifles. But at least they should spend more time and money towards quality control. For the price, this is a disappointing rifle. Save your money and buy a well built, well designed rifle.
@paulthompson436711 ай бұрын
Bummer. (great vid though!)
@Dmac696911 ай бұрын
I'm surprised to hear the type of issues you experienced with this rifle. I sure don't hear alot of people talking about them. Even on reddit
@Huntinggearguy11 ай бұрын
Mr Meatshower put out a 1000 round test video that was pretty clear. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZmfmNaD0b2-iqM.html
@sk8snwmx10 ай бұрын
This is that exact same rifle...
@Huntinggearguy10 ай бұрын
@@sk8snwmx Yep, same one that's been back to BCL twice for warranty.
@slister19119 ай бұрын
No spring on the gas system? That thing must rattle like crazy! What a poor design, especially since the "AR-18" gas system design and it's offspring are readily observable. Nice review.
@Huntinggearguy9 ай бұрын
Eh, some of the pistons on the 180's have used a squared edge to hold the spring and that ends up being a failure point for the piston. At this point, I'd be happy if the design stops them from breaking.
@matthewspeller11 ай бұрын
My hope longer term is eventually with enough of these companies making modern sporting rifles that one will figure it out and get great. Meanwhile it's hard to be mad at them for releasing stuff like this, not like they have a billion $ in dev money. Still hurts though.
@strech851211 ай бұрын
Get ur hands on a Raven u will never look back gen2 BCG fixed and rocking it out there
@theangrycanuck833111 ай бұрын
What caliber you running? Are you using their bolt as well or swapped with an AM bolt?
@strech851211 ай бұрын
@@theangrycanuck8331 I have both 9mm and 556 upper ( with gen 2 bolt)
@cameronjaeger10 ай бұрын
*Read as a sad cartoon horn* WHA-WHA-WHAWHAWHAWAAAAAA
@belliduradespicio800910 ай бұрын
holy shit what a joke of a rifle
@frostypreppersk359310 ай бұрын
Please get a Crusader Arms Templar. I'm honestly tired of watching videos on KZfaq with crappy guns. It's getting old. Oh and decent for the money? I wont soend $2000 on a gun that wont run. 😊
@basswars706011 ай бұрын
I know they're not perfect, but Canadians really need to buy Canadian made guns. My WS-MCR has been mostly good and I value its role in keeping our freedom. Because, it is a whole lot easier for Trudeau to stop guns from being imported than to shut down a Canadian factory and fire its workers.
@Chris-si7yj11 ай бұрын
No. Canadian manufacturers need to make quality guns for Canadians to buy.
@Kai-ky6tf11 ай бұрын
No. I dont want to waste my money.
@theangrycanuck833111 ай бұрын
It's a double edged sword. On one hand, the more money they make, the more can be invested into better products. On the other hand, it's alot of money to ask for products that have some serious flaws.
@Al-sg7kr11 ай бұрын
No, I don't need to waste my money. And if passsing the laws they want to means shutting down a factory, best believe they'll do it, thinking anything else is cope.
@Kai-ky6tf11 ай бұрын
What scope rings are ypu running? Sorry if you said in the video i must have missed it.
@Huntinggearguy11 ай бұрын
I had 2 in the video. Close in review in my gun room was the Nikon P-series. At the range shooting 3 gun was the Cabela's Covenant 1-8 scope with included mount.
@Kai-ky6tf11 ай бұрын
@@Huntinggearguy Thanks!
@Ringwolf15 ай бұрын
You talk a lot but can you shoot a gun? Maybe it's time to show something.
@Huntinggearguy5 ай бұрын
Watch one of my 3 gun match videos of you want more shooting. I'm one of the best 3 gun shooters in the country.