HYDRAULIC PRESS VS KNIVES, EXPENSIVE AND CHEAP

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Crazy Hydraulic Press

Crazy Hydraulic Press

Жыл бұрын

We will test various knives with a hydraulic press. Expensive and cheap knives. Damascus Steel, Ceramic knife, Swiss knife

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@officer401
@officer401 6 ай бұрын
I'm thankful there was a disclaimer at the beginning. I just got a shipment of knives and was on my way to my hydraulic press when I saw it, and decided they were right. Thanks for saving me.
@builder-KAPPA
@builder-KAPPA Жыл бұрын
There is no knife maker called TUOTOWN in Japan. It says Damascus, but this is a Damascus print. Damascus print is often used on Chinese knives. Knives that say made in Japan are probably made in China.
@builder-KAPPA
@builder-KAPPA Жыл бұрын
The way the handle is made is also different from that of Japan.
@agungh1670
@agungh1670 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, its printed, the core if from high carbon steel would'nt be like that
@kanipirahu1500
@kanipirahu1500 Жыл бұрын
The word "ZHUANGYUN" printed on the blade does not exist in Japanese, and "KITCHEN" is misspelled. It is not a high-quality knife made in Japan. According to my research,Tuo brand is Located in Yangjiang, China.
@yordantomov3974
@yordantomov3974 Жыл бұрын
Chinese 😂😂😂
@AsifAli-lv5ku
@AsifAli-lv5ku Жыл бұрын
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@simonconsumes3901
@simonconsumes3901 Жыл бұрын
For all people who cheer for the old knife. Good kitchen knives are most likely out of a steel with 56-58 hrc(europe) or 60-62 hrc (japanese knives) the ceramic one has probably around 65hrc. Higher means harder. The thing is, the harder the cutting edge, the thinner it is shapened in order to be able to make use of it's advantages (sharper because it is still stable even with a very thin cutting edge). A harder steel stays longer sharp when used carefully but is also much more likely to break. Like the ceramic knife. So for this test harder steel is more likely to break and a disadvantage. Also its likely that the cutting edge of the old knife is much thicker and the angle of the cutting edge it larger. This makes it more robust and so it has another advantage here. So the old knife wins the test but it is not as sharp and therefore less suitable for the kitchen.
@onik7000
@onik7000 Жыл бұрын
It is also MUCH harder to sharpen harder knives. 62-63 hrc knives are almost impossible you sharpen without special machines. So i'd prefer 56-57 hrc knife. It is sharp, it can hold harpness for quite a lot time and i can sharpen in with any rock if needed.
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 Жыл бұрын
Comments like this trigger my curiosity. Could you tell me what hrc stands for? And how can I find out what steel my knives are made of? Is it printed on the blade?
@simonconsumes3901
@simonconsumes3901 Жыл бұрын
Rockwell hardness. At least in europe quite good kitchen knifes with 30€ and above pricepoint normally have it in their product description. In other countrys there are for sure other measurement standards for hardness. But if you know whats common in your country i am pretty sure you will find some conversion table if you search for it :) i dont know of any knife where the information of the hardness is printed on the knife. So its at least no common practice. As a thump rule, cheap knifes are normally not transparent about their hardness or maybe even not consistent so its pointless to find it out there. For good manufactures you should find the information on their product description. So for most home cooks 56 hrc is the better choice since they are cheaper and need much less care, except you want razor sharp knifes and are willing to spend some money and time.
@Sky11631
@Sky11631 Жыл бұрын
@@onik7000 I gotta disagree with you, making the edge is difficult yes, but sharpening (exspecially a carbon steel like aogami super [65hrc]) is still doable, not even that timeconsuming in the carbon steel case.
@nandayane
@nandayane 11 ай бұрын
I think 20 years ago it may have been the case that Knives at 62-63 HRC would be difficult to sharpen on because were mostly Aluminum Oxide sharpening stones or softer used back then if you only use normal water stones you may have problems. However with the widespread use of inexpensive diamond abrasives (Like DMT stones or plates, more recently sharpening sets from Worksharp) they don’t give much trouble. In some ways it’s easier to sharpen high hardness steel because the steel deburrs easier. I carry a pocket knife hardened to 65HRC with vanadium enriched tool steel and it doesn’t give me any trouble on a $30 pocket sharpener. I only really have trouble sharpening really cheap soft stainless because the burr is gummy and won’t detach, or the apex crumbles every time I try to apex it.
@garrettlundy3959
@garrettlundy3959 7 ай бұрын
The moral of the story: Destroying $212 worth of knives costs $212
@alexmoise8996
@alexmoise8996 4 ай бұрын
The moral of the story , with more than 3 mil views , he made more than 212 :))
@andresilva3940
@andresilva3940 2 ай бұрын
And gain a lot of Money with views.
@FlVE
@FlVE Жыл бұрын
old knife won because it had a very short edge, what i mean is it was 2 mm thick the whole way except the 3-4mm area close to edge whereas the Japanese knife had a longer edge, its thickness gradually increased from edge to back
@xyoungdipsetx
@xyoungdipsetx Жыл бұрын
Agree
@zhec2332
@zhec2332 Жыл бұрын
maybe old is more expensive
@ivanvelickov3118
@ivanvelickov3118 Жыл бұрын
the Japanese knife is a rip off with colored patterns was expecting to go off like it did.
@panda_sinritest
@panda_sinritest Жыл бұрын
日本のものではなく中国のものらしいですよ
@diditpriyantoko1560
@diditpriyantoko1560 Жыл бұрын
the Japanese knife is made from 2 material different
@tsumplay3094
@tsumplay3094 9 ай бұрын
Fun fact: The function of knife is not use to cut another knife. The price is not important, as long as it can cut the vegetables, fruits and meat.
@martinbabl1635
@martinbabl1635 9 ай бұрын
Well when it is a knife fight then it might matter ;)
@jetset808
@jetset808 8 ай бұрын
You 100% have shitty knives..
@Joestudly
@Joestudly 8 ай бұрын
@@martinbabl1635 No, when a knife is used in a fight the quality of the blade is less important than the skill being used to wield it
@lukekennedy6394
@lukekennedy6394 7 ай бұрын
I use my chopping board to chop my veg...because that's what it's called, common sense really.
@NicoScorpio
@NicoScorpio 7 ай бұрын
your comment is not making any more sense than this video.
@larryezell8387
@larryezell8387 Жыл бұрын
this is a comparison of hardness not quality or performance. Harder is only one factor and not always the harder the better as demonstrated by the ceramic knife breaking.
@wrsusinagem
@wrsusinagem Жыл бұрын
Ceramic is harder but is not that resilient
@xs1l3n7x
@xs1l3n7x 6 ай бұрын
It was sexy as fuck, gentleman
@cd947
@cd947 6 ай бұрын
We know
@laughtale1997bee
@laughtale1997bee Жыл бұрын
この方法は、金属強度を比較しているだけで、切れ味とは全く関係のない試験になっています。
@pingobrichon
@pingobrichon Ай бұрын
Tout a fait. C'est une expérience ridicule. Un couteau à beurre en tungstène aurait gagné mais vous pouvez essayer d'aiguiser un morceau de tungstène... Bon courage
@Jcecil17
@Jcecil17 9 ай бұрын
Imagine medieval knights having the strength of a hydraulic press in battle
@essolatem5764
@essolatem5764 6 ай бұрын
according to physic, putting 500 kilos on an edge isn't surprising ^^ it looks like alot but it's really not that much :)
@gePanzerTe
@gePanzerTe 4 ай бұрын
​@@essolatem5764 Physics 🤙
@thomasgougeon2543
@thomasgougeon2543 9 ай бұрын
So satisfying but so painful. It's like a John Irving novel. A rollercoaster of emotions lol
@Jabberwok28
@Jabberwok28 9 ай бұрын
Props for the literary reference that no-one will get.
@maxiseuz2575
@maxiseuz2575 7 ай бұрын
Knifetest
@brianm263
@brianm263 6 ай бұрын
Had to stop watching, cringe factor too high.
@User_not_found_403
@User_not_found_403 4 ай бұрын
Great test. Now I know which knife to use when I need to cut knives.
@MattConnatty
@MattConnatty 11 ай бұрын
One small factor in the old vs new knives, beyond the particular profile of the blade, is that we have 'improved' our materials production to the point where we can specify a material for a particular job within small tolerances. Obviously no kitchen knife should ever be used to cut another kitchen knife so there is no good reason to produce a blade that can do this well. Older knives will not have quite as precise material specifications and so the tolerances will have been larger to allow for material differences and to ensure no premature failure. In other words, 'quality' may not mean that the product is capable of much more than it was designed for, rather that it is made with efficient use of materials and manufacturing processes while still being fit for purpose.
@HouseTre007
@HouseTre007 9 ай бұрын
I.e. ensure returning customers 😂
@user-ul7rl9hu3n
@user-ul7rl9hu3n 6 ай бұрын
Раньше ножи были более универсальные
@user-nj9ru4ef2w
@user-nj9ru4ef2w 6 ай бұрын
you don't cut slices of cheap knives into your breakfast every morning?
@gaborfodor2519
@gaborfodor2519 5 ай бұрын
If the goal of anyone is to have such a tool in the kitchen that may cut any knives, the best to use an angle grinder. It needs some practicing to spread butter on the slice of bread by...but it worth all the time and effort for sure.
@D00MTR33
@D00MTR33 Жыл бұрын
Not the best comparison fince the Swiss and Japanese knives are full flat brings and the cheap and old only have a small bevel and are mostly full thickness stock. You can see in the Japanese vs Old that the oldis cut right to the point of it's bevel and once it's at full thickness it becomes thicker than the Japanese knife and is much harder to cut now. Still a great video that shows that things used to be made better before and you get what you pay for. A cheap $2 knife is much softer than a $110 Japanese one and will get duller much faster.
@kenvenom2
@kenvenom2 6 ай бұрын
Why did I feel the need to wear safety glasses while watching this? Lol
@Ghost-dh1vv
@Ghost-dh1vv 11 күн бұрын
Because you’re a smart g(eye) … haha … you’ll never see this banger of a joke
@BURG
@BURG 7 ай бұрын
Perfect , if I ever need to buy a knife to cut another knife with I’ll remember this video for reference. 😊
@JustinCrediblename
@JustinCrediblename 7 ай бұрын
don't forget to buy a giant hydraulic press and specialized tool holders while you're at it
@rasmuswittsell10
@rasmuswittsell10 7 ай бұрын
That was what I was expecting. The old knife is far less brittle than modern kitchen knives, but it also requires sharpening more often. The old knife behaves more like an old sword, like a sabre or similar.
@darkdestroyer4228
@darkdestroyer4228 7 ай бұрын
Nope, it's all depend of what sort of steel knife are made, modern or not.
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 7 ай бұрын
Old swords were most definitely not made of soft steel. That's a meme, as meme as that Japanese blades are automatically better.
@user-ul7rl9hu3n
@user-ul7rl9hu3n 6 ай бұрын
Со временем сталь становится мягче
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 6 ай бұрын
@@user-ul7rl9hu3n No it doesn't. Aluminium does. Steel doesn't. It can become softer for someone tampering with the heat treating, but it most definitely does NOT become softer; oftentimes, it becomes even stronger due to work hardening (which may or may not be a good thing).
@QwoaX
@QwoaX 6 ай бұрын
Actually, medieval Japanese steel was extremely bad since they lacked knowledge in metallurgy compared to China or Europe. That's why they folded it so many times "Come on, iron... do something." I think the advantage of the old knife was the dull blade, which means the initial point of contact was wider and therefore tougher.
@markvonsteiner3080
@markvonsteiner3080 6 ай бұрын
Why am I thinking of Kill Bill?
@BaresEatBeats
@BaresEatBeats Жыл бұрын
Predicted the outcome perfectly lol
@ZacBuchananKnives
@ZacBuchananKnives 2 ай бұрын
This is more of a hardness test than a sharpness test, very fun to watch
@kosai_asaiki
@kosai_asaiki Жыл бұрын
多分ジャパンじゃなくてチャイナだと思いますよ。 補足 メーカー名で検索したらロシアのメーカーのようでした。 あと日本のブランド名ではこの綴りはおかしいです。
@drantigon
@drantigon Жыл бұрын
Why?
@RomekRolnik
@RomekRolnik Жыл бұрын
Because it was shitty knife. Buy knife from Japan not from AliExpress.
@SAMI_SPACE_FLASHLIGHT
@SAMI_SPACE_FLASHLIGHT Жыл бұрын
Does Japan not make knives?
@wolvescrest
@wolvescrest 7 ай бұрын
I'm just impressed by the ceramic knife.
@Immenreiner
@Immenreiner 7 ай бұрын
just until your ceramic blade gets dull and you've to sharpen it - what isn't working. You've to throw it away ...
@inah-sakhalin
@inah-sakhalin Жыл бұрын
1:10 That knife was made in China. Not made in Japan. TUO ZHUANGYUN is a Chinese cutlery manufacturer.
@daewooparts
@daewooparts Жыл бұрын
Now that's a knife 🔪 fight
@rickwilliams967
@rickwilliams967 7 ай бұрын
Speaking as a butcher who uses victorinox almost exclusively, those are some of the best knives you'll ever use. Just keep 'em sharp and honed (two different things. Sharpening is sharpening, honing is straightening the blade)
@Zellnerz
@Zellnerz 7 ай бұрын
Also ... as a professional knife sharpener, please use the fluted metal "hones"
@ingnitedtoast4312
@ingnitedtoast4312 6 ай бұрын
As someone who has sharpened knives for a cub scouts badge I can say that keeping your knife sharp is very important (the scout master said so)
@jeromebraden7364
@jeromebraden7364 Жыл бұрын
Spectacular use of time and money! Subscribed.
@monsantogmo505
@monsantogmo505 Жыл бұрын
How clever, this video is cutting edge!!!!
@findrich
@findrich 3 ай бұрын
Some things at play here: Get a utility knife if you want to cut paper! The old knife was the only un-honed or sharpened edge so it was more close to axe vs. katana as opposed to saucy knife-on-knife action
@mightytheknight2878
@mightytheknight2878 6 ай бұрын
That 2 dollar knife is quite formidable against more expensive knives
@here_be_dragons9184
@here_be_dragons9184 6 ай бұрын
It's just the blade is thicker and the edge angle is pretty obtuse.
@gePanzerTe
@gePanzerTe 4 ай бұрын
Enough for some carots and meat. 😎
@zondafernandez
@zondafernandez 9 ай бұрын
La geometría del filo (ángulo de los biceles primarios y secundarios) tienen mucha influencia en la prueba. Para un análisis justo deberían enfrentar cuchillos con los mismos ángulos de bisel y allí la diferencia si sería en la calidad del acero o material. Y no sacar el cuchillo de cerámica flexionando la hoja.😮
@bojandimitrieskimilenkovic9226
@bojandimitrieskimilenkovic9226 Ай бұрын
Thanks for that disclaimer, I almost went right for my home hydraulic press
@calw2728
@calw2728 9 ай бұрын
What make was the "old" knife?
@parkinsontatak
@parkinsontatak 6 ай бұрын
So.. what did we learn from this test? "Do not cut other knives woth a knife."
@phoenixgodtimothy7479
@phoenixgodtimothy7479 Ай бұрын
That new blade making will never be as good as the old way. Cause the new way is being done on a cheap as possible matter with the least amount of materials.
@gugaptc
@gugaptc 6 ай бұрын
Que satisfação!!
@RachelHophes
@RachelHophes 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou for doing this for us. No longer curious
@alexis2k233
@alexis2k233 Жыл бұрын
Loved your video, I know they are probably more expensive but would love to see an old knife vs a Wusthof vs Victorinox vs Japanese Global Knife vs Japansese Shun. Also would love to see it against Eskilstuna, Boker Arbolito which are argentinian brands and Mundial and Tramontina brazilian brands commonly used by butchers and low cost kitchen equipment but that in my opinion are quite good. Can send you a sample just for the joy of seeing it. Your videos are highly satisfying, keep em coming!!!
@ashenshugar964
@ashenshugar964 Жыл бұрын
I use the zen just above the shun. The price is not accurate to show how deeply it can cut into a fake cheap knife actually made from high carbon steel if you couldn't tell. The black colour is not a patenia. If it wasn't black it would be rusting. I like my zen long knife but the home gamer can not sharpen it like it was brand new even if you buy the special grinding wheels made for that brand to make it easy. I tried to grind out a nic. Took me an hour on the miny water wheel resharpen it.
@hariseldon1990
@hariseldon1990 Жыл бұрын
Eskiltsuna y Boker no son marcas argentinas.
@alexis2k233
@alexis2k233 10 ай бұрын
@@hariseldon1990 Eskilstuna y Boker Arbolito si son marcas argentinas. Si bien Eskilstuna es una ciudad sueca famosa por sus cuchillos tambien existe una marca Eskilstuna en Argentina de Fabricas Australes S.A, que lleva fabricando cuchillos en Argentina desde 1957. La marca Boker si es alemana pero la marca Boker Arbolito es argentina. Los dueños son Boker de Alemania pero abrieron una fabrica en Argentina y para que los argentinos se identificaran con sus cuchillos crearon una nueva marca Boker Arbolito eligiendo al ombu, arbol tipico argentino para su logo para que sea facilmente reconocible por los argentinos. Pero no se guie por mi respuesta, investigue la informacion institucional de ambas marcas.
@thomasgougeon2543
@thomasgougeon2543 9 ай бұрын
As a chef I almost cried. As someone with ADHD, I couldn't be happier lol
@saschafunk1644
@saschafunk1644 Жыл бұрын
In Germany, some knives are made out of the cannon tubes from old Leopard 1 tanks. That knives cost 400$ and can cut almost everything. Lets try one of those knives.
@onik7000
@onik7000 Жыл бұрын
We call this "magic". When you need to sell something to someone who doesnt know the subject you add magic. "it's from old cannon steel" or "it's from jet turbune wings steel". Steel has marks. Marks has properties. No magic. Leopard tank knives can cut no better than any other knives made from same steel.
@PiotrSzw
@PiotrSzw Жыл бұрын
Where I can buy this knive?
@smievil
@smievil 3 ай бұрын
my brother got a candle holder made out of an old train rail for Christmas dovo also got some straight razors made from mammoth bones it's an interesting use for history
@Treyk901
@Treyk901 Жыл бұрын
A good knife is rated by its hardness rating relative to how brittle it is. How long it can keep a straight edge and ease of sharpening. And that’s just the start of it.
@expectation0
@expectation0 Жыл бұрын
a good knife must bear a pressure up to 50000000000kg/cm³
@jameslovrek8634
@jameslovrek8634 Ай бұрын
Not necessarily true. I have learned, recently, that people who butcher meat, for a living, don't want the hardest blades. They need to sharpen their lives quickly and get back to work. That came from someone who cuts meat all day long.
@Treyk901
@Treyk901 Ай бұрын
@@jameslovrek8634​​⁠please re read what I wrote. Hardness rating relative to how brittle it is AND ease of sharpening. A good knife will have a good compromise in these 3 metrics. But it’s hard to make a one size fits all blade. A Japanese chef will need a different material than a French chef.
@DanPrado01
@DanPrado01 Жыл бұрын
Old but gold!
@MrAbu033
@MrAbu033 7 ай бұрын
The steel of knives is mainly made of iron and carbon(also chromium for stainless)...carbon improves hardness of steel to make the blade sharper but less strength and easier to chip... The blade with more carbon most likely more expensive (1-1.5% carbon in Japanese blade or 0.5-0.6% in German blade)... that's why the old knife seems to have more durability than the expensive knives bcos it might have less carbon and also the thickness of the edge... to me i prefer sharp knives over the unbreakable dull knives...
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 8 ай бұрын
Looks like it's the old Finish knife for the Win!!! 🤠👍
@Brandon_Makes_Stuff
@Brandon_Makes_Stuff Жыл бұрын
That was cool. Now we want to see a katana vs a longsword.
@lll9416
@lll9416 7 ай бұрын
Much like the comments are pointing out knives are made for specific situation. But THE OLD knife does make a good point, the fact that todays knives are supposed to be like magical in their cutting edge when it's just the fact that they're slim Asian Style, designs, thanks to the economy of scales and modern metallurgy. OLD European/American style knives are made to occasionally hit a bone, so versatility IS KING. Super slim knives like the Japanese make are made for processing soft, vegetables and boneless fish. They Are incredibly sharp but also very delicate and will chip when hitting hard bone. So both STYLE KNIVES are perfect for what they need to do, but one is not inherently better than the other.
@az72495
@az72495 Жыл бұрын
You have to measure thickness behind the edge. That is real comparison
@oceanman4460
@oceanman4460 Жыл бұрын
Old metal is built different.
@theblackwidower
@theblackwidower 9 ай бұрын
I'm honestly surprised the ceramic knife didn't just break in half.
@filipbitala2624
@filipbitala2624 9 ай бұрын
Well it did
@justinmorgan2126
@justinmorgan2126 7 ай бұрын
it did
@supertuesday600
@supertuesday600 6 ай бұрын
LMAO dummy didn't watch the video properly 😂
@JayJadhav
@JayJadhav Жыл бұрын
Old one from which country and it's still available for buying
@sayly-colus
@sayly-colus Жыл бұрын
1:10 Please stop misrepresenting products made in China as made in Japan.
@nickotis2497
@nickotis2497 Жыл бұрын
Man them results are pretty cool.. I didn't expect the ceramic to do as well as it did & that last one looked like the old knife melted through the Japanese then looked like no the Japanese knife won it but old school you can never go past 😊 good stuff 🤙
@cheapbruh9778
@cheapbruh9778 9 ай бұрын
completely feel you, I cant help myself being extra gentle around ceramics as if the wind would break them, I can see here I definitely was too gentle
@rjgaynor8
@rjgaynor8 7 ай бұрын
Except that’s not a Japanese knife.
@IlexxSolo
@IlexxSolo 7 ай бұрын
A test for amateurs. It is necessary to compare not only the butt of the knife, but also the thickness of the cutting edge, the thickness of the blade, and so you can compare an axe with a shovel. And a good Japanese knife from Damasteel costs more than 110 bucks. 😅
@cutecat.kahool153
@cutecat.kahool153 10 ай бұрын
Indeed, mastery has gone with the days of time. Can you conduct an experiment on wood? We want to know which one is more flexible before it breaks. I want to make a bow. This experiment will benefit me.
@kurumineko767
@kurumineko767 Жыл бұрын
僕は日本人ですが、このJAPANの包丁は本当にMade in JAPANですか? ブランド名は日本語ではなく中国風です。 箱書きの日本語は意味不明です。。
@meat1110
@meat1110 Жыл бұрын
The price of a blade is not the ease of cutting, but the hardness of the blade. Cheap blades can be sharpened quickly, but the blades are soft, so they will soon lose their sharpness after use. However, expensive blades are hard, so it is difficult to sharpen them, but once the blade is firmly attached, it will not lose its sharpness even after many years of use.
@edgewatersbestguitarist1524
@edgewatersbestguitarist1524 7 ай бұрын
Well, it looks to me like the steel ones all tied... being made from the same thing. Once those edges curled flat it was pretty much just compacting evenly. Harder steel just means it will take longer to rust
@Armafly
@Armafly Жыл бұрын
I need an hydraulic press ASAP
@brianthesnail3815
@brianthesnail3815 6 ай бұрын
Interesting experiment. I could tell the old knife was a good one straight away because of the way the handle was fitted and an old knife only survives if its a good one. It didn't cut well because it needed to be sharpened really carefully on a good wet stone and then honed. I bet it would hold an edge well.
@ThomasVWorm
@ThomasVWorm 6 ай бұрын
It is a stupid test. Cutting needs thinness, otherwise you could use a brick to cut your bread. But thin structures are weaker than thick ones. The sharpness of a knife comes from the most thinest parts of the blade. It is easy to break thin things, which is why you have to sharpen your knife. Then cutting does not come from pressing the knife. This is a complete wrong way of using it. So it does not need to stand a pressure of 500kg. On the wrong surface - some use glass cutting boards instead of those made of wood - you easily lose the sharpness of the knife since glas is a very hard material and the sharpest part of the knife is at the same time its weakest part. It is also no surprise that the ceramic knife is breaking under pressure. Ceramic is used, because it is extremely hard but not because it is very flexible. So it breaks easily. On the other side due to its hardness it stays much longer sharp.
@Wuqz50.
@Wuqz50. Жыл бұрын
un comentario en español,estos videos son muy relajantes,el ritmo de fondo,lo tranquilo que son,son como mi asmr,me agradan estos videos tranquilos,son para relajarse.
@yollotlxochitlhernandez1174
@yollotlxochitlhernandez1174 Жыл бұрын
Lo que no me esperaba era encontrar un comentario en español y que el cuchillo antiguo sea más resistente que el japonés
@huymammin5915
@huymammin5915 7 ай бұрын
i have 200€$ knife from japan and its kind of made usefull. its sharp so much as you may need and its easy to sharpen it too. i like it. its made good
@yugifly
@yugifly Ай бұрын
The cross sections are of different length, the load is distributed differently on the sheet, in addition to that after the first cut the crack changes all the mechanical behavior, it is not the same. I don't think it's a fair comparison, but what a great video Bro, thanks for sharing it. 😊
@Anubis78250
@Anubis78250 Жыл бұрын
"All knives have the same thickness" Proceeds to show all different measurements.
@onik7000
@onik7000 Жыл бұрын
It's not their video. Original author are commenting about this.
@bestsmartwork
@bestsmartwork Жыл бұрын
Anyway old is gold
@jyunnheikusada7003
@jyunnheikusada7003 9 ай бұрын
Interesting video, but it's much like the battle between materials. The higher the carbon in the steel the harder, while keep the tenacity from cracking like the ceramic will perform well in this test, but not necessary the best to do the job. As for the sharpness test. Any knife can be sharpened razor sharp, but stay for how long.
@user-vj2wt7jh7j
@user-vj2wt7jh7j 9 ай бұрын
Good quality ceramic knives can be very sharp but are fragile. I wish you had given more information on the old knive besides just old. Knives have always varied in quality, if the old knife was high quality steel made in Solingen Germany your results would have been much different. It looked like a cheaply made old knife. Like somebody else mentioned the supposedly Japanese knife was probably actually Chinese- real high quality Japanese knives are very expensive and hard to come by. Although in reality a high quality homogenous steel knife is actually stronger and has no laminations to fracture.
@user-ft9ul5ul5v
@user-ft9ul5ul5v Жыл бұрын
Old knife (if you have a spare one as well) should be sharpened and it will retain this sharpness. At least so it seems.High quality.
@user-yr8vx8yv3e
@user-yr8vx8yv3e Жыл бұрын
包丁の良し悪しは切れ味で、包丁同士で強度を競って何になるのか? ただただ無駄としか思えない。
@WontSeeReplies
@WontSeeReplies Жыл бұрын
More importantly, how well the knife maintains its sharpness.
@SAMI_SPACE_FLASHLIGHT
@SAMI_SPACE_FLASHLIGHT Жыл бұрын
It is true that the most important thing is the sharpness of the blade, even if it is made of bad metal
@bernardo6422
@bernardo6422 Жыл бұрын
Gostei muito do vídeo!!!
@micke_mango
@micke_mango 7 ай бұрын
The only knife I ever use in the kitchen is a saw toothed standard/cheap bread knife I mistakenly brought with me from the student corridor kitchen 35 years ago. I have received more expensive knifes as presents during the years but I never use them cause I find them annoying compared to my trusty old bread knife. Someone even gave me some knife sharpening equipment/tool which I never use either. Total lifetime cost of sharp kitchen knives $0 and total time spent in my life bothering about knives 0 hours. If I want to cut paper I typically use scissors or a cheap razor blade from a hardware store if I'd like a long straight cut... And I never found a rational reason to cut a knife with another knife...
@TellywoodGyan
@TellywoodGyan Жыл бұрын
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@anstef1485
@anstef1485 Жыл бұрын
What's the point?
@alexis2k233
@alexis2k233 Жыл бұрын
1 It's incredibly satisying 2 Shows how some brands such as Victorinox are highly overrated. Don't know about the japanese one, would have loved to see a Shun or Global know though I doubt the results would have been much different. 3 Proves that almost any knife will get the job done and the only difference is in sharpening but in a kitchen you don't cut paper, you cut harder stuff or more corrosive such as onions.
@ytwos1
@ytwos1 Жыл бұрын
@@alexis2k233 why would this show any knife is overrated? The only test that has some bearing to the function of the knife was the paper cutting. And even that is imho not really a very convincing test.
@richardkammerer2814
@richardkammerer2814 Жыл бұрын
I would rather have seen a reciprocating device with the knives versus various grades of medium cooked beef.
@alexis2k233
@alexis2k233 Жыл бұрын
@@ytwos1 if a $70 knife performs the same as a $2 knife and can stand the same amount of abuse, clearly the $68 difference is only because of the brand, you would think the price or brand or country where it's made makes a difference but it doesn't. Why would you spend $70 while a $2 knife performs the same. Yeah paper cutting doesn't mean anything in the kitchen world. It would be understandable if you were a barber and you were sharpening a razor. In the kitchen and in any other circumstances you would use a pair of scissors to cut paper. It's all about the maintenance and treatment you give to your tools. Softer metals will get sharp easier and will also get dull easier, harder metals are harder to sharpen and the edge takes more time to get dull and that's about it. You can break an $200 knife just as easy as you can break an $2 one.
@WontSeeReplies
@WontSeeReplies Жыл бұрын
@@alexis2k233this isn’t testing the performance of a knife. I.e. Sharpness, maintained sharpness after use, comfort/ease of use, how well/easily they can be resharpened. All this video proves is how hard the steel of each knife is. Great performing knives are not made of hard steel. Hard steel will chip before maintaining a sharp edge, and it’s difficult to sharpen.
@user-ds9qg9nl3z
@user-ds9qg9nl3z 7 ай бұрын
包丁のみなさん「ええーっ!?鋼材や硬度調整も研ぎも違うのに値段だけで比較されても・・・」 セラミック包丁「ワイ咬ませ犬やんかっ!」
@gt3266
@gt3266 7 ай бұрын
Wonder if it has anything to do with downward pressure vs stationary resistance
@heartsandpearls239
@heartsandpearls239 6 ай бұрын
I feel the same way too
@mwangisheldon4756
@mwangisheldon4756 Жыл бұрын
poor old knife
@de_bombivandebumbo
@de_bombivandebumbo Жыл бұрын
Sad history
@why_plays_fl_studio
@why_plays_fl_studio Жыл бұрын
​@@de_bombivandebumbo sad history
@Gromitdog1
@Gromitdog1 Жыл бұрын
Somewhere in Japan the guy who made that knife is sobbing and weeping while watching this.
@sayly-colus
@sayly-colus Жыл бұрын
1:10 Not made in Japan.   That knife is made in China. TUO TOWN seems to be a Russian brand.
@mariusghirolteanu
@mariusghirolteanu 10 күн бұрын
Oldie but Goldie
@germangarciamartinez4097
@germangarciamartinez4097 7 ай бұрын
You gotta try the Albacete, Spain knives.
@amorsolocanuto-ju5eo
@amorsolocanuto-ju5eo Жыл бұрын
That japanese knife looks fake,
@Ecojuice
@Ecojuice Жыл бұрын
🤣 I think yes
@drantigon
@drantigon Жыл бұрын
What makes it look fake?
@RomekRolnik
@RomekRolnik Жыл бұрын
It’s fake 1000%. 100$ Japanese knife? Good Japanese knife should have over 60 hrc.
@Ecojuice
@Ecojuice Жыл бұрын
@@drantigon Just how it was packaged or its overall appearance. It looks like a Japanese knife from China.
@drantigon
@drantigon Жыл бұрын
@@Ecojuice if you're talking about the pattern, that's because it's layered damascus, and etched in acid. Doesn't have a very high layer count, but it's still very clear, and the more layers, the harder it is for it to chip. That didn't help the blade under the hydraulic press, however.
@BlueFlash25
@BlueFlash25 6 ай бұрын
my grandma, she has a ton of really old kitchen ware and while they are not the best those things are made of adamantium 😂
@chris86nbg
@chris86nbg Жыл бұрын
Old but gold 🥇🎉
@jordan_velasquez
@jordan_velasquez Жыл бұрын
Old, not obsolete 👊🏼
@ironfist6518
@ironfist6518 Жыл бұрын
That's y old is gold 🤗
@javiersp01
@javiersp01 Жыл бұрын
That old knife is tough !!
@elessartelcontar8208
@elessartelcontar8208 Жыл бұрын
Best classification ever. Forget about Rockwell hardness or alloy. Just classify them according to supposed country of origin, price and something called „old“
@jamiealexander9450
@jamiealexander9450 Жыл бұрын
So what's the hardness, edge retention, or anything else that matters when cutting vegetables?
@runeofferdal5623
@runeofferdal5623 Жыл бұрын
Kinda fun to watch, but irrelevant for my knife choices, though. (Except for the brittleness of the ceramic, but I kinda knew that already and steer clear)
@wickthorya7110
@wickthorya7110 2 ай бұрын
Là ! vous commencez à comprendre l'efficacité de l'acier chinois face au Damas japonais et européen, très bonne vidéo, merci la chine.
@JohnCrebo
@JohnCrebo 6 ай бұрын
This is essentially a hardness test. The cheaper knives tend to use a high carbon steel and focus on edge retention. Ie holding the factory ground edge for as long as possible. The more premium knives will be sharper- they use a lower carbon steel but can have a better edge profile. They are razor sharp but won’t hold the edge long- which isn’t important to the professional- as they will check their knives daily/weekly/monthly depending upon use. The average person won’t be stropping or sharpening their knives in quite the same fashion and will not be impressed at having to do so- hence the ‘blunter’ edge, but harder material.
@NorpestThePro
@NorpestThePro 6 ай бұрын
This is how uzui tengen forged his swords
@filmtabletta
@filmtabletta 9 ай бұрын
What does this prove? We don't cut knives with knives, we cut food(or wood). The cutting edge angle of the old knife was much larger than all the others.
@SeutesTercero
@SeutesTercero 7 ай бұрын
It proves that people keep watching videos at 2am
@mikepwnsu28
@mikepwnsu28 4 ай бұрын
The sound of ceramic cracking is Heaven 🤲
@marcinjablonski8201
@marcinjablonski8201 Жыл бұрын
old super knife. gj bro.🤩
@serdarkaraves156
@serdarkaraves156 Ай бұрын
the flexibility, keeping the flatness ,and the sharpness also matter, not only the hardness..
@bigwebbs4925
@bigwebbs4925 4 ай бұрын
That 2$ knife still messed up every knife 😂😂
@luillyyampierroederluna7784
@luillyyampierroederluna7784 7 ай бұрын
Muy buen producto me gusta
@HansOvervoorde
@HansOvervoorde 7 ай бұрын
So where can I buy an old cheap Japanese knife made in Switserland?
@EN.EL.BLANCO
@EN.EL.BLANCO Жыл бұрын
Muy bueno . lo importante es estar arriba . el de abajo , poco mas poco menos resulta con el corte mas profundo
@free__all254
@free__all254 7 ай бұрын
Очень странное сравнение , где японский нож , с 15 градусами , и старый нож где за 20 Градусов, естественно где 15 градусов , там меньше толщина металла , но и как один момент , возьмите старый японский нож , поверьте , он будет самый крепкий ,у меня есть старый японский нож , примерно 1920 года , это типа наша семейная реликвия , он настолько прочный , что им можно и дрова рубить и гвозди забивать
@IDFSurvival
@IDFSurvival 8 ай бұрын
What about the knife geometry?!
@mhlatki
@mhlatki Жыл бұрын
Edge retention, toughness and ease of sharpening is important for knife. Test knife made from tool steel .
@VineetKumar-js1do
@VineetKumar-js1do 10 ай бұрын
What we learnt from these demonstrations? That OLD is GOLD. 🤣🤣
@copkhan007
@copkhan007 7 ай бұрын
I never use one knife to cut another knife. Most of the times I use the knife to cut meat and vegetables, and the $2 Walmart knife works just fine.
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