I agree 100% Kirk,..........the Dutch Star at 450 hp is perfect 99.897% of the time! And I couldn't afford to pay for any more improvement.

Same here have done it on Harley several times both ways. One car trip we made we got caught had to get turned around because of mud slides.

Glad you enjoyed it! We will be making one in a few months with 8% thru 14% grades recently while driving with our Adventure Carans group. YIKES!

It is constantly dumbfounding to Sue & I!

I can't imagine what this trip must have been like without this impressive, wide and smooth road!

Glad you enjoyed it Larry,.......it was a fun video to make. Watch for the one coming up with 12% and 14% grades,..........going 24 mph up them.

We discovered that one too!!!!

How will putting a bag of chips on the dash to use as a pressure gauge let you know you're in high altitude conditions?

Thanks for taking a look Dennis.

You are always welcome along Jeff,........

We just drove a number of 8,10, 12 and 14% grades! That is going to be a fun video to make!

You were really smart. I think unhooking with a gasser with tow haul is a fantastic payoff,.....and saves on your equipment and nerves for both the driver AND passenger.

Thanks for always checking up on us Pius!

I have watched a few of those videos where they are putting the Ram against Chevy against Ford! Those are fun videos! Thanks for stopping in.

Very true! If I had the dough, I would be driving one as well!

Thanks for watching Derric! We went on TWO separate travels that made this video look like child's play since we edited & produced it. Watch for that in the future.

Thanks for the awesome comment Adam. You know what we were trying to tell folks about Glenwood Springs,......it was no exaggeration,........it is breathtakingly beautful.

What a great comment. As I write this I TOO AND JOSTLING around! We just got off a 5 hour ride on the Combres & Toltec Railway train in CO to NM. I will have to regain my sea legs! Train was AWESOME. Video to follow in a month or so.

Thanks for sharing! The 450HP is great 99.99% of the time. Only in my dreams will I ever have a 605HP!

@@OurJourneyInMyles I average 5.5 mpg so when I'm planning a trip I just budget $1/mile and try and top off at 1/2 tank to ease the pain in the wallet 🙂 Still want a 600 horse? I think maybe the biggest advantage is that I have a 2-stage engine brake and it'll really slow our coach down on those steep inclines. In fact so much that I have had to disengage the engine brake going down hill at times to keep pace with the traffic.

So nice of you to say that Daffy,.........thanks.

Thanks for the great tip for others following this route in the future!

Hope you enjoy it! Get a spot along the river!

Thanks for all the kind words guys! We just had another couple oddball pit stops. I am very thankful Sue is always looking for spots and asking me "how are you doing". The team work while driving and RVing together is 37% of the fun.

Thanks Rhonda,.......your home is in a beautiful area!

Yikes,........I would have a heart attack in snow.

You got it guys!

I am actually OK with the performance 99.98% of the time! I am a slow driver that stays in the right lane out of everyone's way! I would worry about which components of the 450 hp engine wouldn't be up to the task at 500 hp!

I'm also a trucker and own a diesel pusher. Probably wouldn't be good idea to turn up the ISL9 past 450hp especially towing uphill. Although it can be done technically, your limitation will be adequately cooling the engine especially if running at full throttle at that load.

@@nomadbiker4040 That's certainly up to the owner but I've seen Rv owners that love the difference it tunable but agian it was just a idea I had one on my 3406B and it was amazing and on top of that I got better fuel mileage.

Thanks Benoit!

Thanks Tom,......

Thanks for watching Bill and the words of encouragement!

Wait till I create the video where we did some 10% thru 14% grades!

I DO LOVE to make drive videos!

Anytime you want to ride down hill, we are there!

Thanks for watching the adventure Bryan!

Yikes,..........what a ride that would be!

Don't rush in,.........think it through,............and do your research at your pace. RVing is so expensive you don't want to start with the wrong equipment for you & your travel partner. Good luck!

Thank you Andrea! You guys make sure to drive safe too!

Glad you enjoyed it Keith!

Our pleasure Sherri!

You are welcome Linda!

I guess I understand the truckers traveling down hill faster than me,...........they are working still! I am simply driving to my next spot to rest!

Glad you liked it Gerry!

The USA, and all the National Parks are breathtaking!

Awesome, thank you Robert!

You are welcome Dennis.

Awesome! Thank you John!

I think I remember when you went out west! Were you already at A.O. Smith, or were you at your previous job, and while on vacation got laid off while gone?

@@OurJourneyInMyles just before aos...got laid off when we got back...rcs then started law school and i started aos at the same time. Sept 1983

I am looking forward to this drive again someday!

Glad you liked it Prophet!

There is virtually nothing else to pick from except an awesome looking state park campground south of Denver that you need to book a year in advance for a big rig!

We have driven on roads the last month we have been on the Adventure Caravans Tours that have popped out our eyes! The USA is a beautiful place,......

Not true that Grizzy will be closed for a year. It is weather dependent. I was there in August walking along Grizzly Creek but true it was closed last week when I drove by.

Thanks James,.......this was a fun video for me to make,......I LOVE to make drive videos!

This is a great drive when not snowing or raining. If you are towing a car with a gas motorhome, I would suggest to unhook and have your travel partner follow the RV. Towing a trailer without an exhaust break is not advised. Good luck Rodney, and thanks for watching.

It's actually all part of the fun in traveling together!

Welcome aboard William!

Glad you enjoyed it Jerry!

Thank you so much Holly!!

Your welcome. Hopefully you got to experience the George Mickelson Bike Trail in the Hill City SD area. It is our #1 trail.

Thanks Ken,.......appreciate the support!

Wow! Wow! Gulp! Wow!

Thanks,...

Thanks for watching and the kind comment!

I did not have a good experience with my grey tank piping getting pressurized between the gate valve and the end cap. Lets just say I hope know one saw me.

In summer,.....not winter!

Don't know what your torque curve is, but your going to be just fine. Prevost buses are made for this! I am a little bit more timid than the average motorhome driver! Enjoy the ride to Glenwood, and from Glenwood going even further east it gets even BETTER. We are going to be in the Pacific Southwest this winter. We will not be at Tampa, but will be at the ABQ Balloon Fiesta in a few days.

Great comments BSF!

It will be like dying and going to heaven! Your smile will return!

We totally agree!

Totally agree Bill!

Wow,..........people are still enjoying the hot springs,.......glad to break out a few old memories for you.

Your turn will be coming up soon!

Wow! I see driving this route again in my future at least once again. We thought it was beautiful,.....

Glad you enjoyed it Stephen!

Our ENTIRE travel season out west this year has been an eye popping experience.

Welcome aboard Janelle! I made CERTAIN to read your comment to my wife. I got a hug, and kiss on the lips! Thanks.

@OurJourneyInMyles Ahhh! That's sweet! You two are a fantastic team for certain...and your videos are top notch. I appreciate them and you.

Oh wow! You are a brave soul. I'm thinking after the first time, I would have been scared away for a second pucker party!

Very cool! Some of my High School jobs were memorable. Yours sounds like it was better than most of ours!

That two lane road trip must have been a terror.

We camped along the CO. River in Greenwood Springs back in 1985 on our motorcycles. Several trains went by us and the scenery was amazing.

@@Donfleebie1 Hope the video brought back some memories!

Yikes,........10 mph must have taken forever! Glad you made it after all those trips.

@@OurJourneyInMyles Yes it did. An example would be the westbound downgrade coming out of the Eisenhower tunnel which was referred to as Straight Creek Canyon took around 45-50 minutes to get down that hill. I considered Dillon/Silverthorne to be safely down to the bottom.

It's a rite of passage eventually!

Thanks for the encouragement Michel!

Not yet! The RVGeeks did an excellent one 6 years ago on rear tire tracking!

We did go, and will have and episode on it!

Thanks Terry,...

We were challenged way more in our drive between Bryce Canyon and Capitol Reef National Park in episode #245!

You are the man Kevin. Stay safe, and drive slower in the snow. I always try to stay out of the way of the working truckers!

You have to admit this road keeps you on your toes!

With a 400 hp cummins diesel in your Motorhome and a Jake Brake, I doubt you would notice much difference driving with the jeep attached or not. It will be slow any way you look at it. I DO recommend folks with a GAS MH to disconnect for braking safety when you are relying on the engine brake/exhaust brake system to keep your down hill speed under control.

Honestly, for me, Mark, the driver it is an absolute treat to drive the pass. The Jake Brake affords you total control of the descent. The passenger seat is terrifying. Any DRIVER that doesn't believe me needs to switch seats and take a turn in the hot seat. The driver needs to always talk to the passenger what is happening and what to expect. Talk about the lag between the jake brake kicking in, and the slow down process. Talk about having to step on the accelerator to INCREASE speed going down hill sometimes. The more you communicate, the faster the passenger will become more comfortable. Remember, they have NO brake pedal, NO gas pedal, NO steering wheel,..........only a windshield.

That would be a dream!

Thanks for the great comment for folks to study SSD!

I know,...........when you tell folks that you don't use your brakes going down hill hardly at all I always wonder if they are believing me!

@@OurJourneyInMyles ya, thought I'd have to downshift but no, Jake brake did all the work.

We felt totally same with the Jake Brake,..........totally!

I would leave well enough alone! You will be fine,.......the few times we all drive in the extreme mountains. We have a video coming up with 12% and 14% grades. Remember the trick of driving the tow vehicle separately for part of the trip in these extreme situations.

We have a drive video that I am planning that will make this one look like a church parking lot go kart track.

Those darn Industrial/Manufacturing engineers are still checking my work!

Thanks DOC. We try to mix up the video themes and styles to keep everyone on board with the channel!

It will do the trick!

We are off to Sante Fe NM shortly!

None! Folks should always refer to the free, online PDF documents, that the Family Motorcoach Association compiles (The Dingy Towing Guides) listing all the approved cars and trucks by model and year, that you can pull behind a motorhome. Additionally, it proves notes on any added preparation needed before towing can start for the day. I would probably NOT RECOMMEND pulling a Honda Odyssey. We are taking a chance,….we have a lot of money on the line with the faceplate mod and Air Force 1 Braking Mod. We paid top dollar to get an extremely low mileage 2013 EX-L, (about 23k miles) so the transmission was in as good a shape as possible. Are you willing to risk this like we have? We corresponded with someone on irv2.com in June of 2017 that was pulling a 5 speed Honda 2013 Odyssey for over 25k miles. This prompted us to “go for it!” He has since (about 1 year ago, had a trans failure.) He maintains he thinks it was NOT related to towing it. He liked his Honda enough he put a rebuilt trans in! We love our Honda and will do the same if we have an issue. WE CHANGE THE TRANS FLUID every year! We needed to pull a garage for our expensive bikes! After many conversations, WE DECIDED TO TAKE A CHANCE, AND PULL ONE AS WELL. We tow a 2013 EX-L Honda Odyssey. This is the latest year model (2013), and highest trim level (EX-L) model you can THEORETICALLY tow. Honda DOES NOT recommend towing it. Yes, I know, you are not supposed to tow it! Honda decided it wasn't worth the warranty claims of damaged Odyssey transmissions when NOT shifted into neutral following the EXACT instructions they provided way back in 2004. (YOU MUST SHIFT INTO NEUTRAL FROM DRIVE ONLY, NOT FROM REVERSE!) They gave up on the Odyssey towing public, because of this Odyssey peculiarity and said you can’t do it. I corresponded with a few other brave souls that had over 20,000 miles towed on their Odysseys before I was man enough to do it. We have PULLED it about 25,000 miles since June of 2017, and we have DRIVEN it 59,000 miles. SO FAR, SO GOOD. The 2013 Honda Odyssey Touring was a 6 speed, and CAN NOT be towed. In 2014, EVERYTHING went to 6 speed. You can search for the Honda Vin number decoder on the internet to make certain your Honda is a 5 speed to see if you would be OK. Any other years you would want to buy, you would want to research the internet and vin # to make sure you are not buying another 6 speed! We liked our (2) 2015 6 speed Honda Odysseys so much, that we sold them to get our (1) 2013 5-speed Odyssey. We are Full Time, and just need one car now. YOU DO NOT NEED ANY ADDED LUBE PUMPS! THIS IS THE TOWING PROCEDURE WE USE,…….EASY AS PIE,….. It has been simplified, directly from the 2004 Honda Odyssey towing instructions, which is the last year they "allowed" towing. The "PV1A Transmission” is the ONLY Honda Odyssey Automatic transmission you can tow, IF YOU FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS from Honda back in 2004 when they allowed the PV1A to be towed. It MUST be this 5-speed transmission. I left in a lot of the Honda legal jargon at the end just for your info. • Start the engine and get it to operating temperature. (I am usually still packing something up.) • Press on the brake pedal. Shift the lever through all the positions (P,R,N,D,2,1). • Then shift up from 1, 2, Shift to D, then to N. DO NOT GO INTO REVERSE! Let the engine run for at least three minutes, then turn off engine. THIS IS THE KEY, AND THE ABSOLUTE ISSUE THAT MUST BE FOLLOWED. SHIFTING TO NEUTRAL FROM REVERSE WILL SET YOU UP FOR PROBLEMS, AND/OR TRANSMISSION FAILURE. How many times you can do it wrong, I don't know. I am absolutely vigilant on this procedure. You must shift to neutral from DRIVE. • Make sure parking brake is OFF. • Leave the ignition switch in ACCESSORY (1) so the steering wheel does not lock. Make sure the radio and any items plugged into the accessory power sockets are turned off, so you do not run down the battery. (Our tow electric cord has a trickle charger line to keep the battery from going dead. We have an SMI Air Force One brake system,.......Honda is around 4,600 lbs. loaded.) If you travel more than 8 hours in one day (including stopping time), you must stop and repeat the above procedures. NOTICE: The steering system can be damaged if the steering wheel is locked. Always leave the key in the ACCESSORY (1) position to prevent damage to the steering system when towing behind another vehicle. CAUTION: Severe automatic transmission damage will occur if the car is shifted from reverse to neutral and then towed with the drive wheels on the ground. NOTICE: Improper towing preparation will damage the transmission. Follow the above procedure exactly. If you cannot shift the transmission or start the engine, your vehicle must be on a flatbed truck or trailer. If you tow a Honda/Acura vehicle with automatic transmission, the fluid must be changed every two years or 30,000 miles, whichever comes first. Although experience has shown that the Honda/Acura transmission and powertrain are capable of being "motorhome towed", America Honda does not assume responsibility for any vehicle damage or liabilities incurred due to the towing device, towing vehicle, lighting hookup, or other towing equipment or towing procedures; any responsibility for these items is assumed by the owner/operator. If you have additional questions, please call American Honda Motor Co. Inc. (National Consumer Affairs) at 800-999-1009. Good luck,…..as I said,…….I would think it is not a good, sound, financial idea,……although we are taking the chance!

That sounds good! We are just too big of a pile of "Condo on Wheels" and we really need the jake brake to handle the entire RV + Honda package.

@@OurJourneyInMyles yea with your setup you need a diesel for sure 😁 I bet a tune on yours would really wake it up.