I Almost Gave Up On This CHEAP UTV ($3000 Mistake)
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10 ай бұрынI buy an Odes Dominator 800 UTV and rebuild it. #Odes, #800cc #sidebyside,
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@Jeffrose_ 10 ай бұрын
It's hard to believe such a critical part was made out of plastic. Great work Joe.
@2vintage 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I couldn't believe it
@pjm204 10 ай бұрын
Fairly common. The oil pump and water pump gears on the Vstrom/SV650 are plastic and my Vstrom has over 125,000 miles without any issue. This is not a new thing either. The timing gears on the old Ford straight 6 were plastic to reduce noise.
@13Sala13 10 ай бұрын
I have a Kawasaki engine on my lawn mower that has a plastic cam gear. That works out about as well you would think too.
@gtisid 10 ай бұрын
you'd be amazed how many big power engines use plastic gears and give you service intervals when they should be changed , just another consumable part to keep the $$$$ rolling in . and it makes less noise than metal against metal
@ricksmith4736 10 ай бұрын
Small Block Chevies had/have plastic timing gears from 60's up... The tales were that it made the engine quieter....
@norcal8718 10 ай бұрын
I really admire you Joe, not afraid to jump in and split cases on an engine you've never worked on before, most guys would say f#@k this and bring it to a shop. Good on you brotha 👍🏻
@darrynruzicka2883 10 ай бұрын
One word for the clutch pull debacle - HEAT!!!
@snowyowl7042 10 ай бұрын
Nothing goes with scrambled eggs and coffee like a good engine teardown. Seeing joe frustrated is like extra syrup on the pancakes
@Antiquefarmequipment 10 ай бұрын
Lol!
@lloydbethel252 10 ай бұрын
Glad you didn't give up on this machine.
@thebigguy8306 10 ай бұрын
First, love the channel, have been watching it since you were popping wheelies in your parents' yard. Two, you have the knowledge and patience, to work on the problem. Third, never a total loss, stripe it down, using the frame as a foundation - build it better, stronger, faster
@TheCamperDanFiles 10 ай бұрын
@2vintage, I'm gonna be honest I didn't think you would ever get that clutch to come off, tenacity wins again way to go. It's amazing what one can accomplish when using a quality tool👨🏾🔧 Chris.
@johnb5519 10 ай бұрын
Good going. You should always put some grease on the puller threads, plus some heat on the clutch would help it pop off.
@Trinity_Window_Products 10 ай бұрын
I was going to say heat it up too. But then it came off i was like...WHEW! He got it LOL
@lonniemartin1084 10 ай бұрын
you need too use a bigger hammer would help to
@GNX157 10 ай бұрын
Joe you need to add a Ductor induction heater to your tool set.
@alexandreblanc2842 10 ай бұрын
Amazing deep dive ! Thanks for sharing ! Well, while learning a lot, not ready to go through it ! I was telling myself with the extractor "it's gonna strip, it's gonna strip" but it did hold ! Crazy ! Amazing video anyhow, it shows that it's not always quick and easy !
@tylers1krr 10 ай бұрын
honeslty joe u might not read this but i just want to say thankyou i love bikes there my whole life and have recently just got into college to become and motorcycle mechanic and can i just say your videos and deep description about every party h check and fix is amazing there ain’t no one else on youtube that does it like u do ur such a inspiration to me and i’ve learnt a lot from your videos i’m a big step ahead in college all because of you and your deep descriptive amazing videos so from the bottom of my heart thankyou so much man your the best of the best and i mean it i can’t thankyou enough the pure depth of your videos and the specs and parts and how h describe them is exaclty what i want to learn and the way u do it and fix things is how i wanna do it so thankyou joe your my hero seriously it would be a dream of mine to meet you and work on a dirtbike some day ❤️
@edkennard72 10 ай бұрын
I was always taught never being a hurry never take your time Make sure everything is correct and perfect then you don't have to do it a second time I'm happy to wait for the next video it's really interesting watching you take that apart and put it back together that is actually a marvel of engineering the way they interacted everything to make it work thank you for the video you got you have a great day and I hope everything is going good for you
@johnhummingbird6837 10 ай бұрын
Another awesome video I can't wait to see it all back together and running I'm working on a project of my own it's making me excited to get mine done and running 😊
@MLWAM 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Somtimes I find it easier to insert the piston to the cylinder before connecting it with the crank rod, it really depends on the length of the rod. However you made it look easy.
@aarongrabowski3775 10 ай бұрын
You should oil the cylinder before putting the piston in. Don’t put an aluminum gear in unless you do the rest of them too. Aluminum gears will chew apart the plastic gears.
@keyper555 10 ай бұрын
If I ever need a ATV engine rebuilt I will contact you lol, great job on all your projects Sir, very impressed! Looking forward to see this one breath fire.
@stevefairchild3337 10 ай бұрын
I like your thinking with the rebuild. Cudos on clutch removal, I was getting worried, that it was not going to come.
@markuswatson2123 10 ай бұрын
My Dad taught me, do it right the first time and you’ll save yourself a lot of extra work. Doesn’t always work that way but I try ! You are a perfectionist and your results prove that.
@donnicoats7212 10 ай бұрын
Definitely not disappointed you didn't finish it this video..I wish I had your knowledge on builds like this..I'm really good with 2 strokes..Good video Joe..
@Skis878 10 ай бұрын
the two different gasket thing is for different year engines, some take thicker/thinner gaskets for squish clearance or something along the lines.
@cousinstu 10 ай бұрын
I've never seen a clutch take that much to get off. At one point I figured something was going to snap. You have more patience than I do! Nice job!
@Mr_Hatfield797 10 ай бұрын
I'm probably wrong but I feel like your second piston was installed backwards. both intakes will sit in the center therefore the exhaust side would be facing away from the transmission on cylinder 2 so the arrow should be facing away from the center also if its supposed to face the exhaust.
@stephenweston2973 10 ай бұрын
I caught same thing.. Hope someone else did as well... Also use lot of assembly lube.. Its your friend.. Dont be afraid to use to much...
@Military-Museum-LP 10 ай бұрын
My gosh Joe you are pumping these fabulous videos out !
@thatcrazyguyjay 10 ай бұрын
Always love your videos bro and I’ve learnt some thing I never even new thanks to you bro. Keep the content coming love 2 vintage bro 👌😊
@SwedenLover090 4 ай бұрын
Very nice work! Yeah, its good that you take your time and dont miss anything. Love to see your videos. 🎉 You are a good mechanic and a good youtuber. ⭐️🏆🎖
@rainerjaschke5216 10 ай бұрын
You 've got to love the Carpenter Hammer. Ball Peen Hammers must cost a fortune!
@thebigdustin 10 ай бұрын
Or a mini sledge.
@allan9603 10 ай бұрын
That's right Joe, take your time so we get more videos😅
@DusterNutbar 10 ай бұрын
Excited to see this one brought back from the dead! Keep at it!
@marte1a256 10 ай бұрын
I am really proud of you brother you’ve come a long way. I remember your first videos getting so much criticism and crap. Now you’re someone everybody should look up to.
@thomascline8151 10 ай бұрын
Great job Joe. Nice attention to detail.
@cylewinkler916 10 ай бұрын
Hey Joe. I dropped a comment on you FB post in the odes owners group but I just had time to finish watching this video. I have rebuilt a few of these motors & they definitely are cheap & a little different. But stay away from that aluminum gear like another comment said & I believe you put the piston in backwards on cylinder #1. The exhaust is on the front side of the motor on cylinder #1 & the back side/ transmission side of cylinder #2 which you installed correctly. Nest of luck with the wonder odes build. I have a few videos on my channel Limitless powersports service & repair of a few newer odes I have had in my shop. But of luck my friend.
@krispetrov6545 10 ай бұрын
Keep grinding bro this isbthe right way
@gtisid 10 ай бұрын
got a nod of appreciation from me for taking this thing on , my engine knowledge is pretty limited but i know a nightmare when i see one and that is a bad day. but im guessing a niche market as not many would attempt this unless you're getting $$$ an hour
@RC-fu6hg 10 ай бұрын
I like your idea of finding a metal gear. I see a lot of manufacturers going the “plastic” route for cost savings. They just need it to make the warranty period. After that, all bets are off. Plus now they get sell the parts or dealer gets the job. Shame how companies have cheapened engineering.
@paulweigle6872 10 ай бұрын
What a pain. Not going to lie, I would have given up a long time ago. You have the patience and skill to do this job. Good on you man.
@brentwithers4584 10 ай бұрын
Good job man I’m glad you like working in stuff a lot!
@brnschr 10 ай бұрын
Same exact thing happened to my OG 2016 Can-Am maverick. The teeth on that gear broke off and I lost oil pressure. I got lucky on mine, I didn’t have to pull the engine out just the clutch and side cover to replace the oil pump and gear. Mine shut off when I lost oil pressure. This off brand machine you bought didn’t shut off. Those bearings look like they were in there a long time without oil lol
@mikereed174 10 ай бұрын
Can you say another Rinse and Repeat video, check points, check compression, check spark, change plug and don't forget to clean the project up.🤣
@dickritchie2596 10 ай бұрын
Just like professional golfers, professional technicians make it look easy. 👌 Bravo. Great job.
@anthonyz4515 10 ай бұрын
Love the Channel. I’m learning so much watching your videos. I appreciate it.
@user-jp8tl1wi7g 10 ай бұрын
Great job thus far. What a massive undertaking.
@oldjarhead386 10 ай бұрын
Never seen a clutch that stuck. But the whole time I’m watch you wrestle with that thing I’m thinking would have heated the snot out of that inner sheave before using that much pressure. But you finally got it!
@thomasdausch8557 10 ай бұрын
Great video ,Joe , look forward to next video , sir, great comments and excellent support from viewers,,
@beentheredonethat6219 5 ай бұрын
Great job! You got the clutch off! You did an amazing job!
@Patshes 10 ай бұрын
That was some intense watching getting the pully off.🆒😎👍💪!
@frankrusso2093 4 ай бұрын
Next time try water or oil. Fill it, Teflon tape the bolt real good, then impact it. I use this method to pop generator rotors off the crankshafts. Works pretty well.
@anthonyblacker8471 10 ай бұрын
"That thing is ON there." Joe I'm thinking that's the understatement of THE YEAR!! Holy SMOKES that things is on there, it's almost like there's a PIN holding that thing on.. I'm only 6:36 in but my gosh this is.. I've seen some tough clutches to get off.. but that BOLT was about to shear off.. HOLY SMOKES!!! Wow man
@Trinity_Window_Products 10 ай бұрын
One thing i would've done differently was oit assembly lube on the rod bearings cause now they will dry start
@mrfixit603 9 ай бұрын
If you look back on your first video, when you removed the cylinder jug, you remarked that it was dry of oil around the crank. That was the sign of no oil or low oil pressure. Who would have thought that they would put a plastic gear to run the oil and water pump. Cheap i guess . Being in the trade, i was as curious as you to get to the problem. Great vid, thks.
@luuk-out-below9804 10 ай бұрын
This episode: Joe versus the clutch pulley!!
@mattbeaderstadt4668 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video sir. I absolutely love your channel. Binged watched every video. God Bless. Hi Vinny!
@raimoe4512 10 ай бұрын
Crazy work compared to other small engines
@frostbitevinnie 10 ай бұрын
Heat dat biatche clutch up!😁 Good watch Joe!
@fastfatboy1 10 ай бұрын
Next time you have a stubborn primary clutch fill the hole the puller goes into with grease. The grease causes hydraulic pressure and the clutches will pop right off with an impact.
@Woodsrider9338 8 ай бұрын
We use water and Teflon tape on our sleds, same idea less mess just need to make sure to get the water out when finished.
@Goomer 10 ай бұрын
Quite a tear down, nice work.
@markyedlicka 10 ай бұрын
Having a plastic gear to drive the oil and water pump saving the company a few bucks per engine just about guarantees the customer will hate Odes for life, never buy an Odes product again and tell everyone they meet to avoid like the plague, great work Odes engineers and accountants you did it!
@higheriam 10 ай бұрын
Nice work. Progress looking good. Are you going to repaint the frame while you have the engine out? Make this thing look the part. $ 💰✨🎞️
@donnicoats7212 10 ай бұрын
Chrome sockets are cheap for using as impact sockets..He do es awesome work with what he has..
@max9343 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always! If you didn’t have this KZfaq channel would you have still rebuilt this one or just sold it for parts?
@stevemayo1175 5 ай бұрын
The Clutch Thingy that Kicked Booty Dang man Ok A Bit of Grease on the Tip of the Puller where it hits the Crank and Some Lube On the Threads of the Puller and when you get it ran down and Whacked with the Hammer Throw Some Heat on it and TING Wah Lah
@user-sh3ms1hw5p 9 ай бұрын
you do a good job showing the repairs and trouble shooting but a heads up you need a good ballpeen shop hammer keep up the good work
@joebinder6119 10 ай бұрын
I’m thinking you need two rods and a crankshaft. I doubt that you can find someone to turn the crank, but then you need over sized bearings that they probably don’t make.
@ronethridge9875 7 ай бұрын
QUALITY WORK/and check that ring gap-PROFESSIONAL /you are building a NEW ENGINE /was the new cylinder cross honed /did you take a course on mechanics any where/i just read ALL kinds of books/learn by doing too/a big nice too you/thanks much
@MatthewSmith-to1hz 10 ай бұрын
You use chrome sockets on an impact? You're braver than I am.
@RockyFranklin 10 ай бұрын
Hey Joe I’ve been a mechanic for almost 40 years and this bye far is probably the worst power train design I’ve ever seen. Great videos I’m hooked on your channel
@barney2970 10 ай бұрын
Love your videos, joe, keep up the great work :)
@grayfool 10 ай бұрын
Coming along well. Quite a job.
@davidfrederick392 10 ай бұрын
In the future, put some grease on those puller threads and use a 4 or 5 pound sledgehammer, instead of that little claw hammer.
@johnb5519 10 ай бұрын
I fixed a CBR1000rr that had a bearing that spun like that, and I had to put a new oil pump in it because the old one was all scored up from all the metal debris going through it.
@paulbudford 10 ай бұрын
That clutch put up a good fight. Glad you eventually got it off .in o e piece.
@user-fi3fx5my2s 10 ай бұрын
Use light wedging action behind it, sometimes helps a lot.
@user-dg2ji4cj7g 9 ай бұрын
Great job on the clutch
@bigcaputo09 10 ай бұрын
I'm a diesel mechanic. Tractor trailers have so many plastic parts that fail as well! It's crazy!!
@benschlack5814 10 ай бұрын
You ruined the clutch with the wrong puller in the first video
@riccochet704 10 ай бұрын
And I don't know if it's worth it, but that crank can be saved. A machine shop can take that journal down 5-7 thousandths, polish it down another 3 thousandths, then use 10 thousandths oversized bearings. Or it can be filled and machined/polished down to factory spec.
@user-dg2ji4cj7g 9 ай бұрын
Good job keep them coming you do a great job
@chrisryder1546 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Holy Moly. How do you keep track of all the parts bolts on reassembly.
@anthonybullis6941 10 ай бұрын
very important to change you oil according to manufacturers recommendation oil is alot cheaper than a rebuild ore new one
@Stuckin330 10 ай бұрын
Next time heat that clutch up with a tourch if your doing a bottom end anyways just put hella heat to it an it would pop rite off . It may melt crank seals but your doing the bottom end anyways
@patbriggsmbr 10 ай бұрын
I love this program, can’t wait for the next episode 👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@cutum 10 ай бұрын
I'm not a mechanic, but could you have applied some heat to it? Or would the heat destroy seals etc? Great video
@tonyaxeman4381 10 ай бұрын
Get Yourself some high tac for the gaskets . I used the stuff myself and it is super good .
@jhawk1985 10 ай бұрын
😂 some things just fight you the whole way. Glad you managed to bust that clutch off
@Sageofhalo 10 ай бұрын
You were swinging that hammer like John Henry!!!
@robinnorman1170 5 ай бұрын
In your opinion should a buyer beware of a used side by side that says engine rebuilt or replaced ?? Tks love your channel very informative! 👍👍
@jjjuarez312 10 ай бұрын
Never use a aluminum socket for impact very dangerous it can split in to sharpnels always use the black sockets rated for high torque also always ware safety glasses!!
@2vintageDeamonFan 10 ай бұрын
As always gunna be a great video
@animematty 10 ай бұрын
Good morning big guy how about going the opposite direction pushing the force down
@TheMburchfield 10 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your videos and appreciate your content.
@mjjr1000 10 ай бұрын
33:25 that looked like you put the casings together with dry crank to shells- that doesn’t usually end well.
@just4kicks950 10 ай бұрын
Nicely done 👏👏💪. The crank failure is a big reason why the clutch was almost welded from the 🔥🔥🌡. 89% would've gave up including me & parted it out 😔 lol. Truly a nice job & wonder if they make a metal gear upgrade to correct a major flawed design 🤔. Thanks for sharing the awesome progress. I have faith in your skill set 🙆👍. Salute 🎬😎✌️
@arturomedrano3606 10 ай бұрын
Good videos on rebuild bike . U videos motivate me to look for my first motorcycle when I was 10 and I didn't a restoration on the bike the was a 1983 Honda atc 185s I will love to send you same picture motorcycle
@dowdawg 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for exposing that brand I would never ever buy those in the future
@jeremyrich9307 9 ай бұрын
After doing polarises for some time I learned that penetration spray is a good thing also heat works
@SantaClaw 10 ай бұрын
the reason why those clutches get so extremely stuck, is most often due to not cleaning the shaft/clutch prior to assembly, incorrect torque on the bolt, a temperature difference between the crank and the clutch, for example having the engine out in the cold, and bringing your clutch out from a warm house. And, of course, a combination of those things. Using a little bit of heat, however, can do wonders in such cases.
@boosteddiesel1834 10 ай бұрын
I think some heat would have helped you get that off. Glad to see your making progress on it.
@RussellGiffin-is8pq 10 ай бұрын
Fill The hole in clutch with grease gun grease.then insert puller.had pretty good luck with it
@tuberNunya 7 ай бұрын
You have a good eye for small clearances. That means lots of experience. No ring compresser?
@louisjohnsonjr.4934 10 ай бұрын
I'm glad you made it as far as you have with this thing. Its been a pain in the butt since you bought it so good job Joe.
@nath_-fq7tq 10 ай бұрын
Great job👌
@ronaldrecord3011 10 ай бұрын
That engine is identical to my 2014 maverick 1000 xmr ,just did the same rebuild
@peteraitken6494 10 ай бұрын
Wtf plastic gearing ,unbelievable joe thank god you got the clutch off what a bear yeah take your time mate you’ve put a lot of time and money into it will be top notch when fixed though great video joe thanks for sharing take care to you and your family and dogs all the best 👍👌🔧🔧🔧🦴🐾🏁🏁
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