I am completely unable to review Derail Valley
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Күн бұрынI've started playing Derail Valley and I love it to the point I need to tell you all about it. Which is a problem, because it turns out that the moment the cameras are rolling and I'm gathering gameplay footage I become completely unable to articulate just what it is that sets this aside from the usual pulling of a single lever and waiting for things to happen of supposedly more realistic simulators.
Also I make a sandwich and a flask of tea on... er, somewhere slightly to the left of camera in my neverending quest to find a KZfaq niche even smaller than "indie simulators and old PC games". If you're still enjoying things by this point you are a wondrous person and I appreciate you.
List of signals:
0:00 I am late. Again.
0:39 The problem with train simulators
1:43 I make tea in an entirely uncontroversial way
3:03 Finally, some gameplay footage
4:30 I made that tea for a reason
7:07 Ambition
8:14 I am great at shunting. Honest.
9:23 Hilly antagonists
10:42 This video has a problem
12:47 Under pressure
13:12 The economical disco train and its downfall
14:45 Functional naming and more failure
15:45 Life on the edge
17:36 Sensible and proper
19:16 The pleasure of potential failure
22:27 The hopping game
23:25 More safe shunting
24:09 Navigational issues
25:00 The bit with the outcome
25:48 The bit after the outcome
27:05 The sandwich returns
Comments are pre-reviewed to avoid spam. I aim to publish all comments, including dissent, but overly pedantic or negative ones may be moderated.
Additional sound effects CC0 from Freesound.
A brief except of Maple Leaf Rag by E's Jammy Jams is used in this video.
Bonus fact: no, really, this was an absolute horror to record and I found myself consistently unable to say anything interesting about what is a rather enjoyable little indie sim with plenty of challenges to keep you busy. It's great fun scuttling across the map in a little shunter delivering all sorts of things to those functionally-named places, whether you bring along sandwiches and tea for extra authenticity or not. Developer altfuture have a roadmap of even more things they'd like to add, including a potential US-themed future DLC pack with beefier locomotives and a different map.
@Rosseloh 11 ай бұрын
This is by far one of my favorite games of the last decade. It is the perfect balance between a true simulator and a game (and I say this as someone who is very much into true simulators).
@ThisIsPete 11 ай бұрын
My absolute favourite thing about this game is the ability to just leap out of the train you're driving to "just check" things are all in order up ahead, before heroically leaping back into the cockpit through the front window. Realism!
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
There do appear to be some difficulty options that tame down my rather chaotic approach to playing the game into something more realistic and considered... but who doesn't love ghost riding a 500 ton whip full of flammable liquids?
@DaHitch 11 ай бұрын
Having played other train games like Train Simulator Classic and Train Sim World 3 the best part about Derail Valley is that, indeed, it _isn't_ a train simulator. I feel it's more like a model railway simulator. Imagine having a large model railway, completely decorated with villages, industry, bridges and scenery where you drive around with your train shunting cars in a yard, moving cars from one station to another, etc. That's what this game is like basically, and it involves you in every aspect of the railway experience without becoming tedious. As an aside, the fact that this game has been made with VR in mind is actually great as that's likely the reason for the teleport feature (walking around in VR usually leads to motion sickness), having seen several trains bugger off without me after having jumped off with no way to get back on in time in Train Sim World 3 I really appreciate the ability to teleport around quickly. :D
@smingson52 11 ай бұрын
I feel like I’ve stumbled across a hidden gem with this channel, I’ve only seen one video of yours so far but this quality is deserving of a lot more subscribers, views, etc. Keep up the good work!
@23GreyFox 11 ай бұрын
Some game designer once said to never put realism before fun. The devs managed to grip the essence of driving a train and everything around it without going over board like the other simulators. And of course with all the options you can customize your own difficulty. I have yet to find any train sim where it's so fun and engaging to actually control a steam locomotive.
@raztaz826 11 ай бұрын
I really like pushing things fast, and running along the roof of the train to get to the front to see whats ahead then running back. Mainly I like how its not just vast distances with nothing to do.
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
Ooh, I like the "classic action film" tactic. Maybe they should add some baddies to beat up along the way.
@raztaz826 11 ай бұрын
@@TimberwolfK To be the hero engineer/lone-ranger, defending my train against hordes of robbers, across the frontier would probably be my dream game :)
@HashDogg06 8 ай бұрын
Is the game forever expanding or is it something that you can complete in a week & move on to other games, reason i ask is that i do not want to buy it & a VR set just to chuck it in the cupboard a week later after spending so much money for very little game play. Also is there an online live play where you see other gamer's?
@silveradverto3448 11 ай бұрын
I was introduced to this channel via this video and Im very much enjoying it. Keep up the good work!
@GRY_59 11 ай бұрын
You deserve alot more attention, you're videos are Top Tier and the commentary is great too!
@2talltyler152 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the nice review of a game I've been enjoying quite a lot lately, and your thoughtful commentary on what makes the game fun. As a professional railroader (in UK parlance, I'm qualified as both a guard and a signaller) I immediately went for the most-realistic mode, which limits teleportation, removes the exterior camera and keyboard shortcuts, increases cargo value but also damage liability, and extends the bonus time limit. After watching your video, I can't help but wonder if I've short-changed myself by taking away the silly challenges. The time limit extension in particular is too easy -- given a remote control so I can ride shoves and work the ground without trying to use the switch remote at long range or teleporting all over the yard, I can complete a 180-minute switching job in 25 minutes. I'm not even rushing, just working efficiently like I've done many times before, up against the clock of another train's arrival or my crew hitting our 12-hour duty limit. Maybe I should lean into the silliness of weak DE2s, exploding oil tankers, and frantic teleportation against an unrealistically short time limit, to make the game more fun and less like work. Also, you comment on pulling apart air hoses "correctly" by hand rather than letting the train do it. We actually let the train do it, because pulling the hoses apart by hand while they're still pressurized with residual air can cause back, eye, and ear injuries. There are also rules against bottling the air of unattended cars, so to drain the air systems -- again without potential eye and ear injuries of opening an angle cock by hand (plus bruised shins if you don't hold the hose tightly!) -- we often leave the angle cock open on the cars being left, so that when the hoses are separated it releases all the air in the brake pipe. This makes a lot of noise and kicks up quite a cloud of dust, so you always turn your head away to avoid eye injury. Work smarter, not harder!
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
That's quite cool! I did wonder even as I said it, "I bet this isn't actually the proper way". Thanks for the detailed explanation of why!
@altornadoathome 11 ай бұрын
I'm playing the realistic mode and once I've fell off my locomotive. That was quite a chase trying to catch up the train and get back into the cabin.
@modelenginerding6996 11 ай бұрын
I like it as a model railroad sim. Turn on the UI, external views, zoom out from above to disable fog, hover over the cars to ID and sort before starting the job. Super simmy and feels like work but interesting. I do everything, switches, brakes, coupling with the external UI.
@Simone-xe9cw 11 ай бұрын
It may sound weird but I appreciate the fact that (so far) you are the only person operating that whole system: some kind of Shining-like situation where you're the only employee needed to maintain a little independent "county" railway. 😂
@Skilltoyz 7 ай бұрын
Great review, love the humour. Not so sure about the mayo. I would love to see you try Railroader one day.
@RobHoward83 11 ай бұрын
I love Derail Valley so much. But I honestly subbed due to the shear *Britishness* of this channel. Bravo and Cheerio good chap!
@DolioFoilio 8 күн бұрын
Great video. Fantastic game, cant wait for the Foundation 4 uodate to be done, its shaping up to be an even bigger upsate than Simulator or overhauled.
@Allan003 11 ай бұрын
I enjoy you. You remind me of a friend I had as a child.
@geronimo5537 11 ай бұрын
Sold me on this random I didnt know existed game. Though I will wait for a sale. Overall a quality review. Only critique is I felt the video cut through scenes while in the middle of fun moments you are showing.
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
You really did get just the fun bits. If you'd seen the more than an hour long stretch of near-unusable footage I had to rip apart to show the game as it feels while playing...
@geronimo5537 11 ай бұрын
@@TimberwolfK ah through the disco and tea haze. we got to see the true essence. lol
@tramlink8544 11 ай бұрын
09:20 reminds me of the German yard worker standing between two such waggons coupling as they ram together XD
@latbat58 11 ай бұрын
til locomotives use sand
@DownundaThunda 11 ай бұрын
One thing I would recommend all players do once they start taking concurrent jobs is to arrange their train so that the highest paying job is on the tail of the train. You then break your train down to each of the orders after parking the job cars in the correct sidings, then before moving on, claim the job. That way, you have the highest chance to get the bonus payout on the highest paying job.
@SteinBee 11 ай бұрын
I know someone who got his fingure chopped off from a train running over when he was standing between 2 trains
@shadowinthevoid 11 ай бұрын
Great video. I am probably going to have to pick this up at some point
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
I did wish I'd picked it up before the Simulator update price increase, but then on the other hand I don't begrudge more money going to a small developer.
@Subtractive-et2nm 11 ай бұрын
Never saw such a realistic review! Full of irony on the good things in this game ;)
@dreadedyeti7050 11 ай бұрын
Been playing on pc without vr for a while, I’m very excited to derail in vr once I get back to my headset
@Streaky100001 11 ай бұрын
Little tip if you want to continue that cavalier attitude to yard safety, when reversing train without the remote control, you can leave the throttle set to keep pushing the train backwards, not too high mind, and then jump onto the rear most car of the consist, allowing to to ride what is now the front of the train while you're reversing. This gives you a much better view of where you're actually going and means you can get at switches and stuff easier. How do you control speed I hear you ask? Well, with the throttle set you'll constantly be accelerating to a speed, if you get a bit fast, just look down and pop the angle cock on the end of the brake pipe open briefly to take a set of breaks. Once you close it the brake pipe will recharge and release the brakes since you left the brakes off in the cab. The trick is learning to judge speed, and judge your break sets in this manner based purely on how long you open the angle cock for to give you just the right amount of breaking. I find this is also very useful when coupling a train to another cut of cars.
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
I love that DV is enough of a sim that this is possible, and enough of a game that it doesn't try to stop you :D
@Streaky100001 11 ай бұрын
@@TimberwolfK Hahaha yep, exactly. It lets you do it, then makes you deal with the consequences when it goes wrong.
@WhatHoSnorkers 11 ай бұрын
To the victor, the spoils! That was lovely, nice that there are failure states rather than instant GAME OVER.
@bjarnenilsson80 11 ай бұрын
Ok while this might not be a quick review fit for the shorts/reels/TikTok generation I found you showed the game off, talked about gampky and progression. So the title is at least IMHO a bit misleading the only thing you left out is what most reviews youse as somthing of a punchline. The "is this game worth the full prize, or should ( the viewer) wait for a sale.. the bit with the sanwitch at the e End was jus so sweet, and it kind of meshed wery well with your repeated tea references throughout, for some reason I allways injouy such internal monologues spilling out
@ctrlaltrees 11 ай бұрын
Only a psychopath would brew tea in a Thermos!
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
Or a sociopath? Or, perhaps someone who can't even remember the words in their own script.
@bubo1 11 ай бұрын
I do hope the final unlock in the game is a stalwart old nag called Luminous Bob 🐴
@AKATenn 11 ай бұрын
it's a fun game, I like the whole contract system and needing to buy licences and pay off fees, also the trains all have limitations, and figuring out routes that don't have steep up hills helps... I listen to an audiobook while i play, very relaxing and laid back... you can also steal objects and stuff from the buildings, and customize your trains driver compartment.
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
I did find a room full of old tower PCs in one station and got *very* tempted to come over all light-fingered...
@tryphonsoleflorus8308 4 ай бұрын
Hilariously interesting review!
@ebolapie 11 ай бұрын
to be quite honest i am unable to produce a quality comment by a quirk of my current mental state but i do appreciate that this video is very much deserving of more attention from the algo. however i am quite good at picking fights. i have autism please be patient
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
Hey, it's fine - one trick which can be useful (I have a few friends that way, possibly even a bit of it myself) is when someone seems obviously "wrong", trying to work backwards to the universe in which they could logically be correct and reasonable, often you end up seeing the cue you miss first time round. Although some of us are just wrong. Me, particularly often.
@bujin1977 11 ай бұрын
Really enjoying the game, but I wish I had understood the copay system earlier in the game! It's making the task of getting enough money to upgrade to a better loco a bit more of a challenge. I played the first few days in VR and it really is a fantastic experience. Unfortunately I get a really bad back when standing for long periods of time so I've had to switch back to the non-VR mode, but it's still just as much fun.
@bujin1977 11 ай бұрын
Also, I think the stopwatch has become pretty much useless in a recent update, unless I just haven't worked out how to use it properly. The dev claims that the job time bonuses are in-game time now rather than real time, but that doesn't appear to be true. They still show, e.g. 45 minutes, which is real time, while several hours can pass in-game, so you have to then know the sim-rate and convert real time to in-game time in order to be able to use the watch to time your job. You only seem to be able to set the alarm for on-the-hour too. From earlier videos of the game, it looked like the previous version of the watch was much more useful, being able to wind it forward to a number of real-time minutes and count down from there. I waste $5000 on a watch that I don't use.
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
Yep, I realised too late that you have to be very careful about your first few licence purchases to avoid stalling progress from fees exceeding income, and get manual service before the copay rises so much you pay full fees on nearly every job. (Although you don't have to pay all fees before taking a new job, meaning you can store up a few and get some help from copay when it's only just above the fee level)
@peddersmeister 11 ай бұрын
When you get the remote control and then stand on the rear truck if you have to reverse ;)
@NinaFelwitch 2 ай бұрын
My most favourite train game!
@TheNightquaker 11 ай бұрын
You do have a point about the train sims sometimes not being stimulating enough. Perhaps they could use an addition of an occasional lad (or a lass) trying to game-end themselves by jumping in front of the train. Now that's some real stimulation. Besides, it wouldn't be much of a train simulator if it didn't include as many real-life aspects in it as possible, would it.
@torhansen8570 11 ай бұрын
Subscribed for more egg-mayonnaise sandwich videos!
@tsalVlog 11 ай бұрын
Subbing for the Yorkshire Gold and absolutely no other reason. Okay maybe one more reason -- clogged sinks.
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
Horrible admission time: what we keep in the Yorkshire Gold tin is actually Twining's Everyday. You can just about see the yellow box in the background.
@ebolapie 11 ай бұрын
Guess some folks prefer watching trains go off the rails while the rest of us are busy mastering the art of locomotion.
@djjemo 11 ай бұрын
I'm back!
@Yesterzine 11 ай бұрын
"Things are constantly on the verge of going wrong". Yes they are.... now what's this about a train game?
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
It is attempting to be a simulator, after all!
@RoseTintedSpectrum 11 ай бұрын
Now I just really want an egg sandwich.
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
I had this mayonnaise recently which I really liked, adds a nice subtle curry flavour without overwhelming things. Can't for the life of me remember which brand it was or what it was called, though.
@ebolapie 11 ай бұрын
v british idea, tbh the idea of egg + mayo maks me puke ham n chese for life
@OrangeNash 2 ай бұрын
Yorkshire Gold +++++ Egg mayonaise sandwich ----- 🤢
@MarquisDeSang 11 ай бұрын
WTF? You should try it in VR. Why would you want to watch trains on TV instead of being IN the train for real?
@TimberwolfK 11 ай бұрын
Welcome to my laziness in relation to getting things which are currently in boxes out of said boxes. Besides, you don't want to watch a video presented by someone in some kind of space hat, do you?
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