I Asked 40 Melee Players Who They Hate Playing Against

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7 ай бұрын

Every few years, we've gotta take everyone's temperature on which characters can kick rocks.
I asked over 40 people, almost virtually NO ONE SAID FOX?! Can't get over that. Crazy. Maybe melee is in a good place :D
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@gamecow2 7 ай бұрын

Actually putting the stage up there when HMW said fd got me good. Good vid

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

had to keep the bit going o7

@hnazgul 7 ай бұрын

Of course Wizzy's answer reflects his innate purity

@bloodeyes1690 7 ай бұрын

we have come so far as a community

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

I did, in fact, do this three and six years ago, respectively. Results are on this channel as "Mad Melee"

@OfficialTigerino 7 ай бұрын

aMSa singly handed moving Yoshi into higher tiers, again

@beardalaxy 6 ай бұрын

ice climbers, before wobbling was banned

@nilpholan 6 ай бұрын

i already made that video @@beardalaxy

@il100374 6 ай бұрын

Icies would've been wayyyyy higher too lmao

@kyeperson8041 7 ай бұрын

Wholesome Wizzy

@bman420_ 7 ай бұрын

great editing, the flow from comment to comment was really good, not to mention the gameplay to go with what they are saying 👍

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

thank you for noticing, really tried to create some fluidity

@chemicalfusion1320 7 ай бұрын

The FD Pick instead of characters is so based it's true

@roundupssbm 7 ай бұрын

surprised sheik and ics aren't higher, really fun vid :)

@McWickyyyy 7 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same haha

@LightKnight_Age_Of 7 ай бұрын

Banning wobbling moved them down several spots.

@sirtymoo 7 ай бұрын

Fun video, love seeing content like this that highlights more of the community

@leonblum816 7 ай бұрын

There is my man reporting on my favourite eSport again. Thanks for the good work!

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

o7 my brother 💖

@kikewickens6324 7 ай бұрын

Wizzrobe being based asf unsurprisingly. Long live melee ❤

@liampullman1198 7 ай бұрын

0:20 Those pretzels are delicious

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

lets goooooo

@Howzieky 6 ай бұрын

Great editing! This was super easy and fun to watch

@nilpholan 6 ай бұрын

thank you for noticing!

@dissect123 6 ай бұрын

I like to believe your initial question was "who do you hate most in melee?" and everyone just answers "Leffen". What we see here is just the second take.

@nilpholan 6 ай бұрын

I feel like a lot of the people I spoke to have known or interacted with Leffen personally to some degree and would, in fact, not say that at all. go outside

@Azel954 6 ай бұрын

good vid captures the modern melee scene well

@noahkelly8907 6 ай бұрын

The k up character that is able to make me rage in melee is Luigi. (Mainly online). Really fun when they turn on their lag switch, do one wavedahs across the whole stage, and then throw out a frame 1 Aireal.

@Duffy_SSBM 7 ай бұрын

Luigi way too underhated here

@dyedye2 7 ай бұрын

🥲

@ASTR0NAUT_G0D 7 ай бұрын

2:59 actually cracked me up lol

@125conman 7 ай бұрын

Even though only one person called out Luigi, as i Luigi main i still feel attacked by his painful words.

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

it's def harsh, but you have to remember: Luigi's Italian

@DazlMusic 6 ай бұрын

Amsa 2v1ing that guy's friends and probably him too while smiling is the most Amsa thing ever

@chad0ch0 7 ай бұрын

Waff spittin tho 💯

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

always does

@unclejaws1999 6 ай бұрын

Sweet video! I really enjoyed it

@nilpholan 6 ай бұрын

hell yeah, ty!

@eryxviper 7 ай бұрын

1:04 I have never thought about it that way but fuck me if that isnt spot on.

@242bleek 7 ай бұрын

Really thought Sheik would be higher on this list or #1. Maybe top players don't see her as big of a threat.

@illford6921 7 ай бұрын

She's kind of just a well rounded character tbh

@matty3501 6 ай бұрын

It's because like half the top 100 play spacies and they destroy sheik :)

@242bleek 6 ай бұрын

@@matty3501 True, but unless you're a near perfect spacie player low level Sheiks will shit all over you.

@RedGamer321 6 ай бұрын

It's actually crazy to see some of my friends in this video

@mjdevlog 6 ай бұрын

aMSa's middle finger makes my day

@nilpholan 6 ай бұрын

he really is a legend

@jordanmeyer-bass4557 7 ай бұрын

Sheik dodging bullets out here

@triple.c. 7 ай бұрын

great movie, phil

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

omg its triple c! letsgoooo

@BeansGreens_ 7 ай бұрын

Coming melee alive I love it!

@treehann 7 ай бұрын

I hate Luigi because it’s humiliating to lose to him and he’s just a stupid guy

@SillyGnome 6 ай бұрын

1:04 as a Luigi main that’s 100% true but heeeey come on

@wicho556 7 ай бұрын

Lestsgoooo peach 🎉

@Aoi_Tori_ 7 ай бұрын

Great video

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching :,)

@urallnoobs8943 7 ай бұрын

4:56 soonsay cracks me up, and that clip only makes it better

@rapidretrovenue563 5 ай бұрын

That mf owes me a set he got me dq'd one time when I was up against him 😠😠😠

@afinetap 6 ай бұрын

was that bbatts at 2:00 funny af lol

@nilpholan 6 ай бұрын

the one and only!

@mackdaddy0629 6 ай бұрын

Yoooooo thats my homie Jade at 1:04 lets gooooooo

@nilpholan 6 ай бұрын

she's a legend fr o7

@jiyucy 6 ай бұрын

genuinely surprised Luigi didn't even end up on the board

@Nawakooo0 7 ай бұрын

0:40 Where does that footage come from?

@Rael0505 6 ай бұрын

That guy who hates no one is pure of heart

@Brennanrr 6 ай бұрын

I would love to hear what bobby big ballz has to say about his least favorite character

@yorkie4295 7 ай бұрын

welcome back!

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

feels gr8 m8, thank you

@aaronsutterf 7 ай бұрын

amazing video fr

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

i dont mess around o7

@volvomoneygang1178 7 ай бұрын

bro was spitting in 1:54

@davidhansbury70 6 ай бұрын

Great content (:

@99Fishing_ 7 ай бұрын

Gotta love Wizzy

@vwtdi1579 7 ай бұрын

I can feel the rage through their thoughts. We need a sanctioned boxing ring to settle the scores.

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

this video is that

@caffiend453 7 ай бұрын

Wizzy my goat

@prizm9515 7 ай бұрын

Wizzrobe had the best answer. Lol

@rationalbeast 6 ай бұрын

Not one person said Fox? Insane.

@ChamAramis 6 ай бұрын

Not a single Fox? I hate it so much. Maybe I just suck.

@cjkmelee 7 ай бұрын

I really REALLY want to say my most hated character is fox I hate fox SO much But I can't honestly say that my personal melee hell involves playing fox for eternity And in that spirit, I gotta go with Ness

@MrGetownedLP 7 ай бұрын

Based Wizzrobe take

@SSB_Seal 7 ай бұрын

Funny video, thanks for making this!

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

hell yeah thank you my goat 🙌

@danielfrydman1136 7 ай бұрын

how did more people not say luigi that is actually the vain of my existence

@MetaKnight68 7 ай бұрын

As a Peach main I agree with the Peach votes. We're degenerates and her toolkit is so fun and intuitive to me, but a little part of my conscience dies when somebody accidentally crouch-cancels the 50th down-smash I've thrown out that match. (Of course good Peach play is so much more than that move, but at low-to-mid-level way too many players get hit by it way more often than they should)

@Evan_242 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, that's why I love to be a marth main because you can space that and if you're tight, you will never be hit by this move and that's awesome. Love this mu

@RiggedandReady 7 ай бұрын

As fox I'll run into it all the time but I'm never mad about it. Peach is a blast to play against. I enjoy the combo routes on her.

@kwonza-gamingandanime5727 6 ай бұрын

@@RiggedandReady You're the real one for saying that. I love playing against good Fox players as Peach. I think it's so fun-both sides can mess each other up if you play well.

@illford6921 7 ай бұрын

Only character i never care too much about watching is Fox ig. Idk getting hit by fox isn't very fun and i like my hands to feel good

@TheAlmightyBassist 6 ай бұрын

Hoborg still hating falco is hilarious

@macrodriguez8834 6 ай бұрын

Dood! Love this kinda content! God Bless

@nilpholan 6 ай бұрын

wooooo thanks for watching!

@macrodriguez8834 6 ай бұрын

Really nice production n everything! and how you caught every ones reactions was top notch! I realize how hard this all is so good shit on pulling this all off! @@nilpholan

@pablopa_SSBM 7 ай бұрын

good vid!

@TitusMelee 7 ай бұрын

banger

@AdolfBinLaden90 6 ай бұрын

I honestly thought Marth would get more hate

@yorkie4295 6 ай бұрын

“I don’t like his vibes”

@FerociTii 7 ай бұрын

Love it

@aplsed 6 ай бұрын

I am SHOCKED that neither Falco _or_ Marth won the hate-off.

@Impact009 6 ай бұрын

The guy who said Peach and Falco were tied for him had his vote counted for Peach, so it's not like Falco lost the hate-off.

@epicwashcloth5677 5 ай бұрын

As a link main, If I could I would pick ONLINE sheiks. They chain throw dair w no remorse. I'm not great at the game but getting Dthrowed until I die from a fair on the edge of the stage doesn't feel good. All other mu and irl sheiks are fun

@pirijuamps 5 ай бұрын

I fucking love wizzrobe

@TheUltraBall8553 6 ай бұрын

As a new Mario main starting one day ago and already destroying level 9 cpu's, I hate fighting Mewtwo. Also nobody hates Mario! Yippee!

@egebamyasi2929 7 ай бұрын

Sheik, blergh

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

I want you to know this is a safe space, and you are heard and understood

@wicklash9065 7 ай бұрын

I agree with wizzrobe.

@izmizzle 4 ай бұрын

Yo is that wizzrobe? What a G being the first to speak fax

@nilpholan 4 ай бұрын

none other!

@MetiCu 7 ай бұрын

HMW spit in this video. Many other takes in this video are heavily biased hot garbage perpetuated by people who don't actually understand how the characters work

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

how many people in this video do you think you can beat in a bo3 set?

@MetiCu 7 ай бұрын

Already have beaten bbatts and tamus in a bo3, the rest I've never played. But even then an iron man is a more fitting test of your overall understanding of every character in the game and the only people in this vid who have a chance of beating me in that, are Moky and Zain.

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

@@MetiCu the only thing funnier than thinking you can beat Amsa is dictating sweeping, specific terms on which you will categorically lose to Amsa. Please do your best to come at this video from a place of lighthearted jabbing humor or take your weird unchecked ego elsewhere

@MetiCu 7 ай бұрын

@@nilpholan 99.9% of melee players wouldn't beat amsa in a bo3 so I fail to see why that matters or is relevant. I wasn't even referring to Amsa's take specifically because I agree with his, peach's downsmash is cringe. I just think takes like milkman's that falco fox is "70-30" is a meme. Like you play one of the most OP characters in the game that is just pure cope man. Idk what to tell you.

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

@@MetiCu you're taking this whole thing way too seriously

@LilKiwi2240 7 ай бұрын

As falco its fox. Honestly when you're plahing Falco you generally get to be a bit more spacy but still rushdoen aggressive and mean bevause he has wonderful combo tools, but against fox you pretty much have to play spacy because fox is simply faster than you. As Dr. Mario its easily Marth. His up special is one of the hardest out of the top teirs to Cape, his spacing can keep doc far enough away so that doc cant exactly get in good combos, and docs linear recovery pattern makes for easy spacing for D-tilts and F-smashes

@usaeagle8244 5 ай бұрын

As a player still learning how to play competitively, out of all the matches I've played. Puff is the most boring to play against, and Marth is the most frustrating. He just has no lag, and unmatched spacing. I can't approach him

@TrueSilenceIsaLie 7 ай бұрын

Flash with the most based answer

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

single handedly redeeming the state of Ohio of all wrongdoing

@mrlucius57 7 ай бұрын

Wizzy

@drinkmug 6 ай бұрын

puff hate at an all time low we need to change this.

@Ponderething 7 ай бұрын

As a falco player, its gotta be Luigi. At least playing against him. Just un comboable cuz floaty and nair, and i hate his dair. Otherwise I support all characters, even Luigi. I just hate fighting him.

@lasagnahog7695 6 ай бұрын

A character being "too easy" is the most hater shit. I know this is just fun and I'm for sure not judging anyone but it's always hilarious to me. One of those insults that are actually a compliment. "It's too easy for you to beat me".

@nilpholan 6 ай бұрын

thank you for playing along haha

@ChamplooMusashi 7 ай бұрын

please get bobby on the mic

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

which one

@ChamplooMusashi 7 ай бұрын

the chicken man@@nilpholan

@beardalaxy 6 ай бұрын

bobby's balls were too big for his own good

@thegamingguy1 6 ай бұрын

Definitely peach. Only character in the game that will legitimately beat you by doing nothing. They literally never even have to come near you the entire game and they'll still win.

@spicy_taco2267 7 ай бұрын

Kinda thought I was alone on the falco laser hate. I main falco but I never laser like most falcos do. I’ll throw one out sometimes for a mixup but I know how lasers make me feel in a mirror and I don’t wish that upon my worst enemy. I’d rather lose than win because of lasers

@Jon-of6pd 7 ай бұрын

Falco dittos are so annoying if your playing a laser camping Falco. If neutral b was banned from the ditto it would be a top 5 match up easily

@Ponderething 7 ай бұрын

Its tough because its such a good tool, but you feel bad playing it. At least spamming it, Im still the noob that does two approaching lazers and then dairs. If im in tournament (or losing in ranked) then i feel less bad.

@deejay4139 7 ай бұрын

Lmfao at ranking #7

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

gotta max out on representation

@TimeEnthusiast 7 ай бұрын

Was that squid?

@brandonnleyva100 7 ай бұрын

Peach spams down smash makes the player base look like brainlets

@MikeyCyan 7 ай бұрын

0 foxs? Doubts.

@morphball2314 7 ай бұрын

Wizzy with the godtier answer as expected.

@1v1ed 7 ай бұрын

U ask mid level and marth wins unanimously lmaooo

@Jon-of6pd 7 ай бұрын

You ask any Marth player and it's a mid tier lol. I respect it tho fuck ganon

@DP3mo24hofosho 7 ай бұрын

What is mid level

@FlamingZelda3 7 ай бұрын

Thank you. This vid really had me scratching my head with how non-existant the marth hate was (I'm a marth main btw, he's awful.)

@dddmemaybe 6 ай бұрын

@@DP3mo24hofosho @DP3mo24hofosho Smack dab "level" between casual players and top players. Prolly like standard local tournament (typically 8-100 entrants) players who can get a game/match win here and there but don't win events too much.

@burntfish123 5 ай бұрын

Falco because falco players pick the coolest most combey character and just camp instead

@FastFeudal 6 ай бұрын

0:12 i knew i liked bbatts

@frogchip6484 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely amazed by the lack of fox, even as a fox main that character is bullshit

@adamj6853 6 ай бұрын

I have come to the conclusion on this video that I hate every melee not for their character but for their character bias

@bby7630 7 ай бұрын

Easy Luigi or ice climbers

@Evan_242 7 ай бұрын

I don't think stating marth is unfair because he has a sword is a good argument because roy 😂 but yeah I can see why he could be hated. Playing him for ten years and he's broken and I love it. Hard to find the rhytme with him sometime tho but once you find it oh man

@matty3501 6 ай бұрын

As a marth hater myself my main gripe isnt the sword or the range (although that is a pain with any low mobility character) but the fact that he just has good spacing built into some of his animations. He ducks way down while dashing away and makes it rly difficult to hit him unless u way overshoot, and when he uptilts he twists his body away and causes short moves to whiff at close range

@matty3501 6 ай бұрын

It legit feels like any marth with a decent dashdance game is so slippery and impossible to hit unless they shield

@il100374 6 ай бұрын

Sheik or Falcon fs.

@Akiironzo 7 ай бұрын

Now make them play their most hated characters.

@happymonkeyfish 7 ай бұрын

I live for the puff hate

@Penguno45 7 ай бұрын

Lmao this is a great vid, I'd say icies prob

@nilpholan 7 ай бұрын

thanks for checkin it out!

@x9x9x9x9x9 7 ай бұрын

As a Peach "main" I hate peach. I should clarify Peach is my best character for some reason but I dont really main anyone I just play like 80% of the roster. Anyways Peach is stupid and easy and down smash is broken, RNG and items are lame... but at the same time she can be hella hype with the right rng and the right DI. But I understand the dislike of most characters. Almost every character has some OP move that just feels lame. Except Ganon and Mario I feel like both of those characters are hype and dont really have a busted move. Marios cape against spacies is kinda lame but because it feels lame to do its not a big problem.