Bitch-boy Leffen needs some spanking to be put in place

Holy shit, you didnt have to murder the man, lmao

Ever played vs puff on meele tho?

Nox' Gil yeah it’s his fucking matchup to win, he is such a fucking bitch complaining that he lost a -3 matchup

@@noirlavender6409 have you tried to actually play the game instead of bitching? Most Puff players get rekt because Puff is actually an easy match to fox, falco and marth (the 3 most played characters on melee). Hbox is just good. He learned how to counter 20XX meta. He deserve his throne.

To this day

The set that retired Armada.. Plz come back Adam!!

@@BobbyReborn I mean he won the following year's Evo lol. But I guess he never recovered from losing Evo 2016...

@@mrm64 which is dumb because it was just Hbox using his stalling tactics that win him every tournament . Armada shouldn't think any less of himself and we are all so proud of him

Bobby Reborn You can’t play aggro puff against Fox unless you are asking for a beating.

imo any sort of anger is reasonable, because it's a human emotion. however then you take it out on other people that's when it's never okay.

@@plvto1 you could argue that Leffen is just playing up the whole villain of smash persona he had which I can see. But Wobbles punching the wall is definitely unreasonable though.

1. Mew2King 2. Leffen

@@genericalias6307 bruh no like mew2king is a fucking crybaby

@@plvto1 depends why theyre angry. if you consistently get mad over every loss, even if youre respectful about it, its unhealthy. you may not be hurting other people but you can be hurting yourself. i still do think some anger or frustration at oneself every once in a while is warranted. at the end of the day people just need to remember though that its a game

ThatGuyWithGlasses armada lost evo (biggest FGC tourney of the time) to hbox, can’t remember the year. I think that was one of the last major tourneys he played before retiring.

@ThatGuyWithGlasses it was his opportunity to win either his 2nd or 3rd evo I believe. I remember him having soooo many times where he was one good hit away from winning the tournament, but hbox ended up clutching it out. I can't imagine what kind of emotion he went through. Being so close to that victory and yet falling short multiple times.

@ThatGuyWithGlasses The end of an era.

You guys definitely have the stories mixed up. It was EVO grand finals 2016. Hbox won after resetting the bracket in two game 5 last stock situations. Armada super choked game 5 of the first set and game 4 of the second set, either one of games won would've made him win EVO. Armada was going for a two-peat EVO win, while Hbox got 3rd, 2nd, and 2nd in the three EVOs before. When Hbox won the set, he popped off and started crying on the floor. Armada had to walk over to Hbox to get a fist bump, and after, Hbox kept crying and popping off while Armada just went back to his chair with that look of depression in the clip until it was time for the award ceremony.

To be fair to Hbox, it was his first EVO victory ever so I kinda understand that pop off, but damn…seeing Armada like that is soul-crushing.

"he always has been"

That was hilarious!

Bars 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Leffen Lied

@ThatGuyWithGlasses Yeah, in the anime and in Sun/Moon (games), he seems to redeem and change for good, so Gary is more likeable than leffen

Leffen is a wannabe god..

Smell ya later

Yeah it's the funniest shit ever

Lol how is ice climbers even fair

Inb4 "jUsT DoN't GeT gRaBbEd lul"

Wobbles (despite the name lol) barely ever uses wobbling when he plays

@@izzywooperstan That's why I got respect for him; he has the cheap exploit at his disposal, but he doesn't abuse it. Pure skill. Nintendude and Army should take notes. Edit: He also doesn't pull out pictures of salt shakers when he abuses said exploit.

6:05 If this doesn't look like a broken man, I don't know what does

@@asvenson5267 it doesnt. just looks like someone whos upset. pretty normal

Yes...

Sadness eventually turns into anger

deadass!

I saw this comment with the new KZfaq update, and I thought that someone hacked my account because it looked similar to the “add a comment” icon. That spooked me lol

Finn Shelton everybody hates in hbox, but honestly I love him cuz he can kick Leffen’s ass time and time again

That last clip reminds me why I hate watching finales of anything.

s0n4r well then 2019 must have been a rough year since HBox only won one set against Leffen which was SNS but I'm sure HBox could maybe beat Leffen this year since he's been playing pretty good recently and Leffen is the God of choking this year

leffen has cooled a bit, still a bitch sometimes. hbox is rarely an asshole to other players now.

He's just a guy still he's not Hitler or anything you don't know him either

mitt romney damn lol

I'd just like to interject for a moment.

Actually true

Oy, I resemble this comment!

armada has that nordic energy tho

That sounded it so wrong..

@@darlisaward3103 what do you mean?

LOOLLL!!!!!9

Agreed!

@@Sturgioni It's kind of funny or entertaining either way, though.

Yeah that's not anger, just intense disappointment. Sucks to see

Hungrybox too. At least Armada won twice.

It hurts less that way, if it was a brick wall, and it bounces off, that's what hurts the most

Id be surprised if that dude or the smash community gets invited back by the host again. Ruin your own image but dont bring the community's down with you.

@@benjaminmolnar3881 This gotta be a joke.

Ok So I know now. This is Marth's sword dance's fourth attack (holding down). Surprisingly I've never seen it being used before. Certainly not used that much by Zain. This is the only time I've noticed this move in professional melee.

Marths side special, he held down to do a triple poke over the standard slash. Cool to see it used in tournament play, never seen that before (discounting people using the first swing for aerial delays)

Here's how Jeb can still win

More than likely, and it probably resulted in someone's potential career in a competitive game being stopped short.

@@Rexcalibar ouch I would love to see a source that if possible lol

@@Hardrian_Hardrada_Cicero I'm not sure if it's actually happened, but knowing how some people can be I'd be more surprised if it hasn't or if it has. I wouldn't expect it at a Smash tournament, or at least not any non-local tournaments, but some competitive scene has probably seen a fistfight.

Actually, I've got one worse than a fist fight. I think during a local Madden tournament someone lost and decided that grabbing a gun he had in his vehicle and trying to threaten/shoot the guy who won would be a good idea. The full details are hazy but I know it happened a few years ago.

@@Rexcalibar I faintly remember hearing about that. Totally crazy.

@Car Ram-Rod 1. Anxiety/stress 2. Possible relationships getting ruined 3. The cost to fix the hole.

4. Being that much of a lil bitch lmao

@@ComposingGloves well I mean he more or less did quit to become a commentator you are talking about wobbles right?

Yeah kinda. U mean cus he's toxic? I mean, I can "kinda" understand him, but if he gets four stocked, he should probably learn the Match up, Instead of being disrespectful.

@@papalattederkek9683 i meant more of how they're both controversial figures . and also blond twinks

actually all of this is pretty rare in melee at high level. Ultimate on the the other hand...

He's known to have some anger issues with the game, part of why he switched to just being a commentator. He's really skilled, but doesn't have the mental. Still glad he's in the scene though. I mean he's got the most iconic/controversial move of his character named after him.

rabe wobbles😂

He wobbled the wall out of rage

Yeah but melee competitive interactions are so much funnier with leffen even if we hate him we cant deny that

I fucking hate hbox and love leffen. This is why

I hate both

In case you haven’t found out yet, he had to move all his old vids to this second account.

ultimateAI ya I realized it. thanks thoe

*lost 1 stock in a 20 year old game

Armada, one of the greatest to ever play the game.

The goat for some people

His track record shows he is the GOAT and he was the most serious about achieving that

x9x9x9x9x9 I agree

Exaaaaactly! I said the same damn thing. I get it is a lot harder for Armada to make it to tourneys because he lives in Europe, I totally get it. And I understand losing Evo.. but damn man, Hbox been through a lot of shit, even before Melee. Yet look how he handles losing Evo 2013-2015. I won't judge it all because Hbox has obviously been pouty before(losing Apex 2013 to Armada as an example), as I'm sure we all would at some point. Both Hbox and Armada worked hard. But people need to stop shitting on Hbox like this.

There are plenty of examples of Armada losing grands and being graceful about it/happy for his opponent: he smiled and seemed excited for M2K at summit, he smiled & hugged Plup when he beat him for the first time, was excited for Leffen after losing to him at Evo 2018... and he's hugged and expressed excitement for Mango about a million times. I don't think it's fair to say that he has a poor character, or that he was pouting and being immature. I think that he was deeply saddened by his performance and extremely disappointed with himself, as he held himself to such crazy high standards when it came to melee... it's not a reflection of how he feels about Hbox or any personal resentment. In fact, unlike many top players, Armada's always been kind to Hungrybox and doesn't throw shade at him.

@@katiieeardley I was using that as an example. I like armada. I don't think he has bad sportsmanship or anything. It was more just using the example in this video.

@@x9x9x9x9x9 Ah sorry I suppose I misinterpreted you :)

neutral aerial attack n-air for short

It's their job bro, they fly to these events and have to place well in order to break even in terms of food and lodging. Now imagine you lose in a bs way or people shittalk when you're tired and hungry and greasy from a weekend of grinding, I'd get tilted too

Surprisingly, he's typically the opposite when he loses, congratulating his opponents after they beat him

@@collinVG That or he sits there and looks like he wants to cry

@@unironiccloudshrug340 That's Armada on that last clip u thinkin of

@@Themonkeymartin Armada has had his moments. But Hbox has plenty of depressed moments.

Unironic Cloud Shrug nonono that's HBox when he gets sent to losers in Ultimate he's totally fine with losing in Melee