Martins Licis was sittning her looking for a comment that said you are the current WSM, and here i find you

@@MrMrVicke haha thanks bud =)

Martins Licis thanks for being an inspiration, started doing strongman because of you, thank you :)

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The biggest disadvantage That thor suffer from😂

Long and lean ........plus 50 kg of weight become short and stocky

Wolfe Mooney I’d argue that longer limbs help everyone, but weight classes in strength sports tend to hurt tall athletes

Zack is the strongest natty

Next video - Why Johnny Sins could be the strongest man.

aww

your imagination can take you to both very wanted and unwanted meanings

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We are talking about Humans Bro

No it's the '405 brigade homie' as he is so strong that he is not even allowed to participate in strong man .

Lmao@ Castleberry😂

Shirts off, pants down

while also being natural

What

Great

Sarychev did mention the guy who got him into powerlifting was significantly stronger than him at a lower bodyweight. Was benching 160kg for reps at under 100kg while he was still a novice.

No, that is stupid. You can't get elite athlete strong by lifting random stuff. You get it by training like an elite athlete for years upon years, building your life around your identity as an athlete. If you want to say that the person with the best genetic potential to become the strongest person alive is not into strength sports, then you're probably right, but that is a completely different thing and has absolutely no bearing on one's occupation. But such speculation is gratuitous in the extreme anyway.

Erik Van der Zee Rhodesians never die, brother

That's what I think with elite athletes and sports. I believe that many people can excell at something due to coordination, strength, genetics and/or injury resistance. Now, not everybody in the whole world will practice the sport in which they are most likely to succed. And, on the other hand, there are cases where people are just good at sports and they might succed at any. For example, former NBA player Nate Robinson was very good at American Football and also as NBA player (in my opinion. They guy was 1,75m, won two dunk contests and made a name of himself in the best basketball league in the world). Also, you might heard the story of an athlete and how she or he started in a different sport. Then there is the motivation, discipline, will and perseveration to train, which not everybody might have, and finally, to be lucky to be in the best position to be the best you can ever be (access to the sport, popularity in the country, equipment, couches, personal situation, family support). It is hard to be a champion regardless of drug use (which I don't support)

Not strong but more power

Regarding the first statement, that doesn't mean he isn't or can't be strong[er].

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Zack Telander hey, it got me so it works

KO KO He's the most powerful then, the most balanced man between strength and speed

Yes but technique is a lot less important in strongman than in weightlifting, the training time is mostly beneficial for technique and not strength reasons

signs technique is not important for strongman? dellusional. have you ever watched any strongman events

@@axeman7509-tf2kf i would dissagree with that, strongman has so many events that all require perfect technique

not so much in the US. It's just as hard to be a weightlifter in countries that the sport doesn't get as much funding to support the athletes

V8ToYy nah

Man I missed that the first viewing. Such a casual display of strength.

lol

he did use steroids and everyone knows the story about it but he is also incredibly hard working and talented man.

XD

I mean Mariusz Pudzianowski never said that he is not using and know he is a mma fighter, so i guess hard work is the part of the process

Lasha is on peds too, everyone is

good. I hate it when people are like "atleast lasha is all natrual" as if anybody at that level of strength sports could afford not doing everything in their power to get strong...

@Es Tim but usain bolt is the fastest ...someones potential somewhere else isnt the same ,all nfl players etc have all run sprints and non can match bolt ..same as strongman there isnt someone working on a farm somewhere whos stronger than Big Z its impossible ,he might have potential but its meaningless ...the strongest is someone who has insane genetics plus years of dedicated training

@@Gbonejohn1974 this is fact. People don’t understand how much faster bolt is than everyone else. But I think he just asked the question for the videos sake

m kl yeah that’s what happened with Pudzianowski

m kl imagine being caught for cocaine in a drug test in strongman .. All the drugs in the world , and you took the one that was illegal ..... *sigh*

The full potential of a man is on drugs to build strength & muscle, excite the nervous system, and kill pain. Don’t we wanna see the absolute max performance?

Im pretty sure the video is about winning the worlds strongest man competition. And when he trained for that deadlift he wasn't even properly able to compete in strongman since he lost so much mobility and speed. There is so much more than raw strength that is needed in strongman. I would go as far to say that strongman is closer to olympic lifting than powerlifting.

@@Leksuttaja149 id say strongman resembles crossfit more than others. aside from body weight movements both tend to use odd implements, differing movements and odd gimmicks to make it interesting. So basically crossfit is a smaller persons strongman lol.

@@ah7027 don't ever make that comparison again

Nippel_Cripper thor is gonna pull 501 is he going to be king of strength then? Also eddie won one wsm what about big z or brian shaw who both won multiple also eddie never one an arnold so his case for beimg the best is very weak

@@philipmeisterl he's either pulling 510 or 520

Not to mention the change in training style and focus. He would lose certain strengths as he worked upon others due to the total workload.

Big Z squatted 420 kg for 5 😐

Eddie Hall confesed that he used a high quantity of illegal substances like insuline and roids

Daniel Topete and lasha is on heavy dosages of crap too lol

@@danieltopete4230 every high level strongman is on (probably a high quantity of) roids

was looking for this comment.

Anyone have a link?

He did it ATG too 😱

Bob of Astora im gonna say around 450kg would pretty much be a guarantee if that’s all he did

@@lennyganado3975 450 raw in sleeves seems a bit high. Given his build Id say that with some specific training a 420+ dead would be a reasonable guess though.

the strength in "slow" heavy max lifts like deadlifts and squats will carry over to Olympic lifts if absolute perfect proficiency and high volume training of Olympic lifts is there. Ilya ilyin recently described his training when he trained "Bulgarian style" during his teenage years which led him to be a world champ at 17. Hitting 170sn 216cj at 85kg bw. Do you know what the training consisted of? squat, clean & jerk, snatches and deadlifts. The highly successful Chinese system of the past 20 years also prominently featured deadlifts, done at weights heavy enough that back starts to round. 1-3rep max efforts! We all know that weightlifters all squat all day, but the deadlifting is lesser known. Both Soviet and Chinese systems also use a wide array of accessory exercises. Some to improve technique but many are straight up bodybuilding exercises.

If you can't move it slow, you can't move it fast. Strengthmatters.

@@oliverallen5324 the amount of upward movement in O lifts is actually much less than what newcomers assume. The whole "being fast" thing is a more about being fast to get under rather than being fast in pulling the bar up. This is obviously much more true of the clean & jerk. Someone fast and flexible should be able to drop into a front squat to get under a 70% deadlift. The amount of upward movement in the "2nd pull" is tiny. A couple of inches and it's about the same for the jerk too. Anyone can move fast over a couple inches. A 2016 Eddie hall included.

dfpguitar Speed can be taught, if you just don’t have it, you just don’t have it. Genetically speaking.

@@dfpguitar the clean has almost no correlation with the deadlift, wtf are you even talking about????

he would make an ok strongman

You need a lot of mobility and agility in strongman too. The whole point of it is lifting and or carrying akward objects for as long as possible. I believe that olympic weightlifting and strongman really aren't that far a part especially since both are very old and there have been legends in the sports that have done both. The best example of this is Paul Anderson. I believe that If heavyweight weigtlifters would train strongman they would excel at it. And if strongmen would train olympic weightlifting they would excel at it too.

@@meginna8354 he would make an amazing strongman. He is insanely strong and allready has the built for it. If he trained a couple of years he would be competetive in worlds strongest man

​@@Leksuttaja149 He is not insanely strong compared to strongmen, after a couple of years he might qualify top 10. Just because someone is a good olympic lifter or powerlifter does not mean that they excel at strongman, and a strongman would never excel at olympic lifting unless they started training it as kids.

@@Leksuttaja149 no way.

I'd say if it leaves the Olympics And he has a break period in his 30s He might

More impressive certainly possible. Harder? I'm not so sure. It depends what you mean by harder. Peaking (properly) for a powerlifting meet really takes a toll on your body, especially at higher levels.

Julia Williams Well I agree powerlifting is difficult but I think it’s way more impressive to see a nearly 600lb clean and jerk than to see a 1000lb squat or deadlift. Just my opinion though 🤷🏾‍♂️

@@djrobinson6602 that's not the part of your post I was responding to though lol. I even might agree with you there. My point is being a competitive powerlifter is extremely taxing on your body as well as extremely time consuming so I have a hard time believing olympic lifting is harder over all, although it is certainly more difficult technically. They are probably pretty similar in how "hard" they are at the highest level for very different reasons.

@@juliawilliams1355 That is completely incorrect. Look at the mobility that weightlifting requires. Do you honestly thing slowly picking up or squatting 1000lbs is more taxing than throwing up and catching 600lb on your shoulders? A lot of weightlifters train twice a day. I haven't heard of any powerlifters doing this. You talk about "peaking", don't you realise that weightlifters have to do the exact same thing for their contests?

@@fudruckers3916 You just defeated your own argument. First you said- " Do you honestly thing slowly picking up or squatting 1000lbs is more taxing than throwing up and catching 600lb on your shoulders?" Then you said- "A lot of weightlifters train twice a day. I haven't heard of any powerlifters doing this." .... Yes, powerlifting is taxing enough that you wouldn't train twice a day -_-

You do realize lasha is like 25 while the strong men are 30+ juicing a fuck ton more. Clearance Kennedy deadlifts 700+ beltless for reps at half the body weight of lasha. Lasha's deadlift is way closer to 1k than most strongman that compete juice to the tooth

arianjel hernandez pure strength continues to climb as you age. There are guys in their 40s at the top level. The juice comment is irrelevant as multiple bans for drug use have proven. Your boys are still on. They just haven’t been caught. Lance Armstrong wasn’t caught either.

@@Xplora213 exactly. Lasha can be just as competitive if he trained to be a strongman starting now and start competing at 30

@@Southerneng larry wheels is also 25.. Can he compare to his pr numbers?

@@Dave-se4sb I am sure larry could but he moves more products by being a shredded lifter with amazing powerlifting totals. If he bulked and trained in strongman he would be competitive.

He never could, trust me. It's not that simple. Don't argue with half knowledge.

@@sabasanodze2319 woooosh

You're factually wrong then, it's a technique feat, c&j and snatch are two out of a hundred thousand lifts and dn't come down to pure strength. Someguy out there can bent-press more than Lasha yet still be weaker, doesn't come down to strength, and in terms of strength Lasha is very weak compared to the strongest men.

@@meginna8354 whats next? anyone with 10 mins of coaching can throw 100kg over their head? Technique makes it possible for 57kg lifters to snatch 200kg?? This idea is almost baseless. If you can snatch 200kg, your probably pretty fucking strong, good technique or not.

@@alexb12272 nice strawman

Supposedly?, explain

Szilárd Hompoth citation needed

Right, well, this is because of a few things, weightlifting is only two movements, while there can be five of possibly 30 or more events in strongman in any given competition. Strongman has also only really existed since the 80’s, and until around a decade ago the sport had ceased to puch itself. Weightlifting has been a very prominent sport for generations, given time, strongman could reach a similar plateau.

That's true just like gymnastics also

Strongman has so much different exercises if you've been training for general strength you will probably do well rather quickly when you carry over. I'm competing in amateur strongman competition and most of the time a lot of competitors have never or only once tried an event before a competition (especially things like truck pull and car deadlifts) yet they still manage to do great as there is huge carryover between general strength training in gym and strongman If you can be good at viking press while trying it for the first time I'm pretty sure you wouldn't even do decently at a weightlifting competition if you never snatched before. Unless of course you're the only one in your weight class like it happens sometimes lol

If I know the 5% of lasha's personality he wouldn't like that. I think that unless you are the most motivated person you don't want to start a sport from scratch after testing yourself for decades

Never guna happen.

Lol, Eddie Hall Lifted 216Kg from the floor to over his Head strick Only using muscle strenght. I don't think Lasha is anywhere Close to these strongman monsters.

YAHya chafiq "Strict muscle strength" Idk if bouncing the weight of your belly is that strict

@@yahyachafiq4112 And what does Lasha use, if not 'muscle strength' when he C&Js 264kg? His psychic abilities? It's not a question of who uses 'muscle strength', but simply that different motions use different muscles, and different force over time profiles. Eddie trains sustained peak muscular force production over periods of seconds. Lasha trains much greater muscular force production, but over fractions of a second. Of course the C&J involves momentum. But you generate that momentum by exerting a huge force on the barbell over a very brief time ... with your 'muscle strength'. It's a question of how you define strength. In terms of momentary peak force ... Lasha wins. In terms of force sustained over a couple of seconds Eddie wins.

Lasha did 500 aswell (dont ask for the link, i dont have it, but its true

100% and anyone who thinks otherwise is seriously in denial

@@getstrongby4038 why have you been replying with the exact same thing under several comments for the past week? Get a life 🤣😂

But he also isn’t taking enough steroids to kill a small child

And they’re nowhere near lasha in weightlifting

awdw cd if they learned the technique, i bet they would beat lasha easily lol

@@pr0v1c97 weightlifting is literally a whole different animal to anything else. the way they deadlift and squat wont transfer to weightlifting

@@pr0v1c97 you have never attempted a snatch or C&J in your life.

I believe licis foundation is oly lifting. I think Licis has gotten to big. I think lasha static strength would be better than Licis

specificity... the whole basis of the video. if Lasha trained like Ray does..... use your imagination for the rest.

Lasha squats high bar ass to grass though

@@alexb12272 If, if, if, that's the thing. Maybe he'd be so much better. Maybe just a little. We don't know and we won't know.

@@alexb12272 What if Ray trained like Lasha? We already know Ray is strong enough. We don't know if Lasha is strong enough.

And lasha doesnt pull nearly as much as top strongmen on strongman exercises. 2 different sportw makes no sense to compare. But strongmen are overall much more complete

Thor did one powerlifting comp, had one or two mislifts and posted the second largest total in history. Top strongmen could carry their skills over to other disciplines and dominate at will

@@liamfergie One of my favorites is Shaw casually breaking the WR for rowing 100m on his first try

Liam Laddy then why don't they lol

@@mrunknown2341 because they want to compete in strongmen? Being able to be good at something doesn't mean someone should.

@@liamfergie Lol if you think any Strongman would come anywhere close to Lasha's 484 total.

Thor does not have good enough shoulder mobility to snatch well.

Lmao, was cringing for him when he made that mistake.

hutchmusician yeah he is but haftor is stronger

k3431D3 No, by definition he is not.

he would struggle to win an amateur show.. there is no smooth spinning 28mm weightlifting barbell in any event lol

Never heard of her.

Because he was disqualified in 2004 for roids.

luke g he has the potential to be,, thats the point of the video

@@aidanchambers6317 based on height alone lasha does not have the ability to over take thor. thor can deadlift 1000 lbs, lasha cannot. thor can squat 900, lasha cannot, etc.

nope, just good at olympic lifts, Eddie Hall can deadlift any weight quicker than him and toss any weight farther than he can. c&j and snatch are two out of a hundred thousand lifts and don't come down to pure strength. and in terms of strength Lasha is very weak compared to the strongest men.

What if they were trained in it from early adolescence like Lasha was?

Doesnt make sense at all... if he can press 270kg over his head he can benchpress it aswell... wich woud allready higher numbers then thor and shaw and very close to eddie. Also the warmup squats are acutally crazy heavy... not even elite powerlifter can bounce up 330kg just to warmup their knees. Larry did 395Kg and broke the worldrecord 2 weeks ago with that... by the look of those squats he can at least do 430kg and he doesnt even train for it.

@@falkpilz369 Koklayev did c&j 250 and bench 230. So no Lasha can't bench 270.

does ur brain even function? or is it dead like xxx tentacion

@@mirkomarjanovic3234 But he can bench 250* logic

you literally name dropped the guys with the biggest "pure strengh" ever to make your point lmao. pretty much no one as more raw strengh than these guys. People who benefit from technique are more people like Mateus Kieliskowsky or Martins Licis, but the 3 guys you talked about are no more than freaks of nature

actually in sports at this level drugs are a huge factor. Two athletes putting in the same effort the drugged one will see better results.

@@ah7027 yes of course. but the point is talking about if was allowed to take the same stuff as strongman (i.e more/mainstream peds). Thing is he already is, and most likely it's more effective than what most strongman take (your everyday test, tren etc). I'm willing to bet he has a team of doctors giving him multiple peds that help his performance, as we know weightlifting is very corrupt when it comes to ped use.

Wouldnt even be close to Hathor ... Lasha has refined two functional moves to perfection. He obviously has a big engine behind them but he isn't even close to Hathor. Honestly, not even close. Hathor can squat 450kgs, bench in excess of 260kgs, and is approaching a 500kgs deadlift. Being the best Olympic lifter is a great achievement but honestly, he is not competing against a big gene pool. I would argue that everyone that gyms at some point tried these three lifts (S.B.D), so the potential candidates are huge. Both are great athletes, Hathor is by far the strongest man in the world at the moment.

You're very impressionable and gullible/naive/irrationally thinking then. just good at olympic lifts, C&J and Snatch are two movements out of a hundred thousand lifts and don't come down to pure strength, it comes down to his technique mastery. Eddie Hall can deadlift any weight quicker than him and toss any weight farther than he can. and in terms of strength Lasha is very weak compared to the strongest men.

Like Stalin?

you're a lit lax on the rational thinking, Eddie Hall is wayy more powerful than Lasha, he can deadlift any weight quicker, literally any weight. And are you saying that Big Z is strongest ever just because of his number of trophies?, Eddie was stronger than him at deadlift, overhead pressing and propably squat as well. Hafthor is in many ways stronger.

megin na eddy and big z were very close on pressing but eddy definitely had it in deadlifting

megin na yet Eddie only won 1 major competition by only a small margin... Big Z won the Arnold 8 times and WSM 4 times it's the consistency of your performance that makes you the strongest of all time Eddie was only able to get so much and had to pull back because it would have killed him, yet he only won 1 world title... bottom line while Eddie will go down as one of the strongest Big Z remains the goat because of his consistency

Domrick Exactly, big z had no weakness, he was good at everything, for a long time too. Eddie has his run in a short period of time for a couple specific movements. But still Eddie is absolutely insane no doubt.

@@domrick783 No, consistency of winning titles has nothing to do with being the strongest of all time, only variable that defines that is strength. Reason for Big Z's number of titles is because of career span and eras, half of his career was in a very weak era with barely any competitors, 2009 and after he was only equal to Shaw and they traded titles. GOAT status is a different subject.

Cin Please look at them again and reconsider

He recently squatted 305kg for an easy triple...

Lol Strongman Eddie hall Squat 380 for Easy 9reps

@@henrikk3309 and eddie hall squatted 315kg for 15 reps

@@Samuel-zo2rc Dude there are powerlifters and strongmen that squat 330kg like that

just the title and not for long.. don't get me wrong i love martins but he was lucky last year with thor's plantar fascia injury, thor is clearly the strongest and better athlete of the two, just look at his placings since he started competing

I saw many complain last year was world's strongest crossfitter. Hafthor soundly beat him at the Arnold this year. That said, I'm a fan of both guys. I think Martins has very impressive mobility/agility compared to the monsters in Hafthor and Brian.

I felt bad for Martins because so many got injured and the normality of WSM was not the same so for many years, people will say he got lucky. It doesn't help his cause that every other time Thor and before the last several months Shaw beat him.