I own a Revolt X at 70lbs 30” draw. It is the smoothest draw I have ever felt on any bow. I have zero hand shock or vibration. I think something has to be wrong with the bow you have. I shot every flagship bow this year and felt like the bowtech blew everyone else away in regards to smoothness. Only bow with less vibration was probably the VXR. This was my first bowtech so I’m not a fanboy by any means.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can't figure out why lots of other guys like it that are experienced shooters and I can't figure mine out. I'm going to keep messing with it.
@mikecredeur79414 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 have you tried shooting it at 30" instead of 30-1/2". you look a bit stretched out to me and it could be causing the kick.
@ryanstage39124 жыл бұрын
A speed bow having the smoothest draw cycle? Even Bowtech and Kevin Strother himself would call BS fanboy on that!
@taylorflyfishing75404 жыл бұрын
@@ryanstage3912 It is a 33" ATA 6.5 brace height bow. Not a speed bow by any means.
@taylorflyfishing75404 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 I have mine set to comfort at 70lb 30". I haven't even tried the performance setting so I can't comment on that. I also own an Evoke 31 and I like the X draw much more. I think you got a lemon man... The only thing I am not too keen on about the bow is it doesn't hit IBO. I think they are about 10fps slow. Im not a speed first guy, but I do like bows to hit advertised speeds or at least be kinda close.
@Mikesacco1B4 жыл бұрын
So... watched the review again, appreciate the honesty. Like I said earlier I already ordered my Revolt based on a demo I did with the Revolt, RX4, VXR and the KURE. They all had their plus and minuses. I went and shot the Revolt’s again to see if I had buyers remorse. Just cant’t figure out why you dislike those bows so much. I guess because I chose to live with the comfort setting maybe I might be settling but it just feels great. Not getting hand shock and draw cycle is the smoothest I’ve ever had. You do have to push it forward but that’s the case with any high let off bow... judging the cam integrity by size also is a week judgement. I shoot with guys who still use bows from the 80’s with cams the size of oreo’s and they are still holding up. Can’t help but feel you really didn’t want to like this bow from jump street but... still appreciate the review.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
I talked to the shop owner and he really feels like it's my long draw length. I'm going to put it on 29" draw and switch back to comfort. I will say on comfort, the majority of the draw literally seems easier than the rest and super comfortable. I'm not giving up yet. I want to figure out why some people love it and I don't.
@erice43973 жыл бұрын
I had a Revolt X and it arrived on 27” in “Comfort”. I shot it a couple days then switched it to “Performance” at 28”. It was pretty much a faultless draw in Comfort, and felt dramatically heavier in Performance. I went back to Comfort immediately, within two or three shots. If you didn’t move the draw stops to match the draw length, you could have created a monster valley. With the draw stop set exactly to the right length, the Performance side has very little valley at all and the letoff comes up to about 80%. I didn’t find Performance to be worth it. I sold mine, not because it wasn’t accurate but because the weight of the bow bothered my left shoulder. It was 5.5 lbs with sight, rest, and a 15” Easton Contour stabilizer with only a couple ounces on it. It was very smooth and vibration-free. I’m going to be trying a Carbon Zion next since they’ve upgraded the cams to the smooth/fast ones from the Revolt. Fingers crossed that with the speed turned down both vibration and accuracy will be excellent with some GT Pro 400s I have.
@garrettrowe79172 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this a year ago, totally had a. Lot of preconceived notions about bowtech when I went to look at new bows this year. Only reason I’m watching again is because after shooting almost every flagship bow from the last two years I settled on revolt x. So I had to come back and see why I was supposed to hate it haha. I guess different strokes for different folks. I’ve never had a bowtech but really enjoying this bow.
@rattlingjunkie Жыл бұрын
I just bought one as well to replace my Athens
@coltmedinger4 жыл бұрын
Dude thanks for a review that’s finally brutally honest, I’m tired of the “every flagship bow is a good bow” reviews
@stonehorn46414 жыл бұрын
They are all great bows. That bow is mechanically fucked. I’ve shot a lot of bows, never saw one with a draw cycle like that. Ever. 30 years of archery, i have 7 bows under 5 years old, and have been through dozens over the years. He needs to bring that bow to the shop to be fixed.
@truthsayer814 жыл бұрын
Clary Carrier the one I shot today was nothing like that.
@Johnbobon3 жыл бұрын
Credit to Brandon for the respectful and non-defensive responses he's made in this comment section. I always appreciate humility and self deprecation. Subscribed.
@michaelhatton7704 жыл бұрын
This is the best review video I've seen lol your brutally honest voicing your opinion and you rarely see that in these videos anymore.
@codygorman6914 жыл бұрын
It draws, stacks up and falls. I remember the first time I drew a compound bow.
@rangerguy1963 жыл бұрын
Aren't kids so cute at this age?
@karowhack24 жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad about being honest. If it doesn't work for ya, it doesn't work. Why I tell all my newbie buds that they should go shoot 5-6 brands and go from there! Good stuff as always.
@truthinthematt88754 жыл бұрын
I own this bow, when i was going through the paces with it i shot next to a way over priced hoyt carbon rx-4 ultra and a matthews vxr, the bowtech was much smoother then both and i had no vibration unstabilized. Im no John dudley but this bow did its job.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you commented. Im also glad you like the bow you chose.
@emknight844 жыл бұрын
I had the same experience although I'm holding off the purchase right now looking at all the reviews and such. Did you buy the revolt or revolt x?
@mikemehle15374 жыл бұрын
You pushed the bow. Watch Dudley get help.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
I've actually gone back through Dudley's school of nock videos this year. It's been super helpful. I'm waiting until the shop opens back up and I'll go in to see if anythings out of whack. I'm not having this problem with any of the other bows...
@vonster41173 жыл бұрын
Glad I watched this, almost ordered one. I hate a big fall off with a long valley.
@brandonmcdonald61213 жыл бұрын
I'd say at 68lbs the Mathews is the smoothest all the way back with the least drop. Pse evo was nice too.
@shitskadoodle4 жыл бұрын
I own a Revolt X and it is the first bowtech I have owned. Shot all the flagship bows and chose revolt x based on very smooth draw cycle, valley which is good for hunting elk (can hold for a long time easily), essentially ZERO hand shock and the deadlock tunability. Mine is very well balanced with a typical stabilizer. There is NONE of the “kickout” you describe. My impression was more in line the guy from Lusk Archery Adventures. I believe your issues with this bow arise from either a lemon of a bow, a very poorly tuned bow (?cam timing...or did you mess something up while playing with cams) or perhaps your shooting form.
@tonyallen86264 жыл бұрын
I've shot Hoyt nearly my hole life I've had a bear and PSE but I couldn't believe how good the new Bow tech is, and now I will be shooting Bowtechs , it's going to take a amazing bow to be better.
@adamdillman4864 жыл бұрын
i am a fellow bowtech shooter and have had 3 over the past 8yrs. i LOVE the Realm and SR6! i switch between them during hunting season and have them setup for different scenarios, but i digress lol. i shot the new bowtechs and agree, good bows but not what they had the last couples yrs with the reign or sr6. not sure why your having so much problems with feel, but contact bowtech and im sure they can walk u thru it, also not a bad idea to go back to basics and work on form/timing. great vid though and love your humor!
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being a reasonable bowtech fan! Some people have been so mad. It's funny to me. I said a bunch of times it was probably me!!
@CM-pc4xu3 жыл бұрын
Omg I absolutely laughed my ass off @ "there's a decent chance I just shot a hole in the four runner". Love your reviews man they're seriously the best.
@sheyanderson43714 жыл бұрын
To each their own and it’s actually nice to hear more criticisms and honesty of these flagship bows. I watched dozens of videos on bow reviews and they were always “They are all great, just personal preference.” That being said and I actually ended up choosing the Revolt X. I went from a Diamond SB-1 and obviously going from a beginner to a flagship was night and day better. You should contact Bowtech and have them look at it. I had issues but none that you spoke of. I went through two sets of rollers on the flex arm before them sending a whole new arm. 500+ arrows later and it’s good now, but something they may want to look into. Draw in comfort mode is so smooth and for cable stops has a firm wall. Liking the videos and it would be nice for more people that are able to, do similar videos that give better reviews on the bows.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Glad you found your bow. Just out of curiosity, what's your draw length?
@tylercarder5814 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel. You're hilarious. 😂 Loved every second of it.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Welcome
@craigharvey69974 жыл бұрын
Brandon I’ve been a bowtech guy for 10 years, went in to by a revolt x, because of the fine tuning.. had same problems you did, I ended up trying pse, Hoyt, walked out with the Mathews vxr 31.5 now that bow is impressive! Anyway just thought I’d let you know. Great videos..
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Good to know someone else felt the same issues I did.
@zachcarter99274 жыл бұрын
Just a honest review of the video: from the start it sounds like you didn’t have a clue what you were doing as far as making adjustments with the mistakes you admitted to, and possibly damaging the bow. Shots hitting consistently low left leads one to think your tuning is off given the mistakes made previously. Also from the video it’s pretty apparent you pull your shots on your follow through. So seems the issue is as you said, you and not the bow. But it was refreshing to see someone try to give a review that wasn’t pushing sales
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I totally get it. I'm not getting that kick out of any of the other bows. They were also easier to mess with and adjust, That's why I showed it. It's embarrassing... I could have easily left it out, but when all the videos come out it'll be more obvious that the Bowtech performed different for me than the rest.
@zachcarter99274 жыл бұрын
Brandon Mcdonald that’s fine. This issue is bc of the “miss fire” with the improper set up you have no way of accurately assessing it due to possible damage that it incurred compared to the other bows. I do believe you even stated that, so credit to you for being honest there. Everyone has a preference and a fit, and a disagreement on that is fine. Would just prefer they all have their fair shake.
@nettasnyder82364 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@Dark30Outdoors4 жыл бұрын
Good video!! Meanwhile, I’m over here still shooting and loving my 2007 Tribute!! I will have this thing forever!!
@twright12114 жыл бұрын
Tribute was awesome! I shot the Allegiance for about the same amount of time. Switched to the SR6. What a mistake!
@uncleremus50464 жыл бұрын
I’m a recurve shooter but your severely over bowed watching you draw. Your literally shaking on the draw.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
The only draw I do in the video is showing the bow when I had missed the draw module placement. I was showing how hard it was to draw. So, you're correct, if I always had to draw that way, it would be terrible. I may not have made that clear in the video. Thanks for watching.
@DS-vo8me3 жыл бұрын
so you did not read the manual made a ton of adjustments + set your draw to long now the bow shoots funny & its bowtechs fault. totally makes sense
@brandonmcdonald61213 жыл бұрын
I did all of that stuff from the first part but then I got the bow dialed in the way it should be while using the manual, and I still didn't like it as much as the others... I'm not going to hold my willingness to cut corners against the company. I just thought the adjustments on other bows were better.
@DS-vo8me3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 understood & i appreciate you taking the time to reply . It just seems kinda reckless to run a company into the ground because your doing things wrong obviously we no longer live by these standards as humanbeings but just a few short years ago if you printed something like that in a newspaper you could be sued & at the very least have to print a redaction . But i suppose your videos are strictly for entertainment not educational.
@robert619029 күн бұрын
I have the Bowtech Solution and I have mixed feelings about it myself. Like I wish I never got it. It is very fast,smooth. The main thing I hate more than anything is the grip. It is to narrow (thin) for me. I like the fat grip like I had on my Matthews Outback. I wish I could find some one to machine me a fat wooden grip for the Bowtech. Really don’t want to use bat wrap but I guess I’m going to try it. I like how you kept saying it was you and not blaming Bowtech,everyone has their own preference. Good video
@hamartime174 жыл бұрын
First, I dig your videos. They're well done and polished. Second. Everyone is different, IMO Bowtech makes great bows, if a man or a woman cant seem to get settled in, than it's not a bow for you plain and simple. With that being said. I have a RealmX and LOVE it. I also have a Vertix and love it. Its different strokes for different folks. Good Video
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I am going to take it into the shop and see if something's going on with it that shouldn't be.
@hamartime174 жыл бұрын
Ain't nothing wrong with videos of this subject. I like every bow just about. If a bow doesnt do what I need it to, then it's on to the next. Archery is a lifestyle, not a brand (for the haters)
@hobbyballs4 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a revolt x. Funny because I new nothing about bowtech, until I watched this video when it first dropped. I been looking at bows all summer and finally decided on the bowtech. At first, I didn't think I would consider the bowtech because of your review. I tested the revolt x, vxr, pse nxt 33, and the elite Kure at my local bowshop. I put about 50 arrows through them, and loved them all except the elite. I finally settled on the revolt x because it felt the most natural for how I shoot. I love the comfort setting for the all-around feel of the bow. Big fan, love the content and looking forward for more bow reviews in the future. Good luck, be safe, and happy hunting.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Great comment and exactly what I was hoping people would do. Go shoot for themselves and decide, but take their time, just like you did. Glad you found your bow!
@Mikesacco1B4 жыл бұрын
Last 3 bows have been Elites. So the feeling of having to push it forward I get. I just ordered my new Revolt... I absolutely love the way it felt... with that said I only plan to shoot it at 60lb. In comfort setting so I completely get why the review went the way it did. Great review appreciate the honesty and look forward to more videos.
@donovanstockton444 жыл бұрын
The intro was hilarious! LMFAO!!!! Regarding the safety pin on the Stan Perfex heavy long neck don't lose it. I lost mine with a week. Apparently you can use wax to hold it in the release better. I haven't like the Bowtech handles ever. I agree it doesn't have the feel of a premium bow.
@wcwcgarner27173 жыл бұрын
I have the REVOLT. And it's a great bow. Hamskea rest. Trophy ridge REACT h 5 sight. Trophy ridge hitman front stabilizer and a Apex side mount Trophy ridge hitman rear stabilizer.
@chkchannel34573 жыл бұрын
Iv'e watched a lot of archery channels for bow reviews, arrow reviews, clothing reviews and everything else. I just came across your channel looking for my next bow and ended up watching about 6 of your videos. Probably one of the best archery channels iv'e came across. In regards to the bow, you pretty much answered all of my major questions with the new technology BowTech put into it. Hope the 4Runner is okay.
@brandonmcdonald61213 жыл бұрын
I was a little rough on bowtech this year!
@jordanpowell2284 жыл бұрын
Very under appreciated and underrated content. The production, content, etc all great. I do think the bow is an anomaly though. The revolt x is the realm x with the new deadlock cam system in every way. Watch archery talks review of the realm x
@koypotthoff97504 жыл бұрын
Did you try the comfort setting? While I would say I preferred the VXR and RX4 over the Revolt X, the comfort setting on the Revolt X is much, much better than the performance. The performance setting only gives you an extra 7 FPS, but makes the draw cycle poor.
@ramos2084 жыл бұрын
I’ve shot both revolt and revolt x and feels nothing like what your showing, you might check on sending it back, you could of gotten a faulty one. Also both bows had no hand shock.
@toddlymburner57834 жыл бұрын
Bingo!!!
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
I'm going to take it back to the shop and have them take a look. I literally tore it down today, cut the loop off etc. If I can get it better I'll post an update for sure. Weird part is, it's shooting bullets... Just feels like crap.
@joelcullum92994 жыл бұрын
That's what's wrong, you're supposed to be shooting arrows! Duh!
@truthsayer814 жыл бұрын
The one I shot today was awesome with absolutely no shock, no stabiliser to help. Was easy to draw and effortless to hold
@toddlymburner57834 жыл бұрын
Lukas Van dijk exactly!!
@MickyMouseLimited4 жыл бұрын
Nice video really fun to watch. It is good when someone makes a video where a product is not pushed. I had similar experience with my first bow ever Bear Cruzer G2. I had severe hand shock.After adjusting the draw weight and adding 3 ounce of lead weight in to the riser now my bow is completely smooth and the shock is gone. Regarding the draw cycle I can see how you are suffering when you are pulling the 70 pounds on performance. I was in the same spot now I drop the weight to 56 pounds and man I love shooting the bow. The point I am making is when I was shooting at 70 pound ( actually more like 68) I was able to do it but I didn't enjoy it. I bought my bow for fun and enjoyment not to punish or injure myself. I am not sure why people believe they need to have the bow set at 70 pounds . If the purpose is hunting precision is way more important then 20 % more penetration . Killing an animal only takes a small cut in the right place not sticking a deer on a stick .
@sgtcaboose54074 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos. Keep 'em comin
@2ndAveScents3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, awesome video. Love the feedback and attention to detail, but have you tried the Solution SS?
@marcusnorthagen90184 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I ended up going with the bowtech over the vxr in the end. For my 28 in draw it was a very smooth draw in even performance ( 2” make a huge difference) but in the end it came down to bow fit for me personally.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Glad you found one you like. I think there were a lot of people that feel the same as you did.
@stevepereira6874 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed to your channel. Cool vids. Curious to your camera set up? Great quality.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
All the wrong gear for hunting! Started out with a canon 80d with a sigma 1.8 18-35 and a Tamron 18-400. Now I'm on a canon EOS R with a couple of the RF mount L lenses. Not what I'd recommend to most people but I want to do other things with my gear too. Thanks for the compliment!
@theklutzyoutdoorsman52654 жыл бұрын
Probably the funniest video you've made so far! I didn't like the Revolt x either. My favorite is the mathews vxr 28
@outdoorswithcharlie64314 жыл бұрын
Good review. I own a 70 lb revolt x and shoot it in the comfort setting at 65 lbs. I installed a custom Americas Best bowstring and an 8" bee stinger w/o using the weights. I'm shooting a 30" gold tip hunter xt, with a 100 gr insert and 100 gr field point. For me it is very smooth on the draw, firm back wall and I feel I could almost hold it back for an hour. It is very accurate. I'm not getting the kind of kickback and torque that you are describing in your video though. For me, it is very forgiving and dead in the hand. I'm looking forward to seeing your follow up video. Hope it works better for you.
@jousiammuntakanava4 жыл бұрын
I like this video and the honest opinion of the bow even though i am thinking of buying one because of the adjustability. I have noticed the same draw cycle stiffness in the end of the draw cycle on my pse ferocity when i shoot it after using my mathews vertix a long time. And the first time i felt that it actually scared me and i thought there was something wrong with the bow, so i understand why you are saying the things about the valley. And seeing you are a mathews user too, i know exactly the feeling. And after the vertix i am realy struggling with bows that dont act as smooth and dead in the hand as mathews bows do. I am not a mathews fanboy and i own a plethora of bows, but i just cant get over the fact that my mathews feels better without any stabilisers and accessories than 90% of any other bow's in the market. When i pay over 1000 euros for a bow i expect it to be as smooth and enjoyable to use as possible.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. The adjustability is great, I just don't like the feel.
@brushcountrybowhunter4 жыл бұрын
Funny. Good videos man ! Keep them coming.
@Hungrybird4743 жыл бұрын
I understand a 100%. I know guys that bought flagship bows and didn’t care for them .
@kylemartinson7222 жыл бұрын
Love my revolt x, glad your honest with your feelings
@mikeensign4044 жыл бұрын
Great honest review brother! And production of the video was done very well, I enjoyed it. Thank you.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@oddjob664 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, this has been one of my favorite videos you’ve produced. I know you were conflicted about releasing this but this is a perfect critical look at WHY this bow doesn’t work for you. Really appreciate the humor and self-deprecation along with detailed commentary of the issues you experienced. Perfect, thanks!
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jasonbrady78614 жыл бұрын
Hey B Mac.. did you ever get this bow figured out?.. This is one of the bows on my shirt list to consider buying, may go with the Realm SS instead?.. wonder if you had the cams out of center?.. they could be even, but out of center. Make sense?.. they need to be centered together between the limbs. This could resolve that kick you're getting. Did you give up on it, or take it to a shop?.. what ever happened?.. I've heard nothing but good about this bow from others. Thanks for the honest review.
@nitrojunkie224 жыл бұрын
Did you not give it a test drive before you dropped the money?
@darrind86974 жыл бұрын
You should do a review on the Perfex
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
I'm going to do a full release review at some point when I get done with the bows. That'll be in there for sure.
@ercoutdoors10944 жыл бұрын
Yea I just picked up the resistance. Almost instant improvement
@ericv97454 жыл бұрын
I own a RevoltX. I love it for the most part and don’t have the kicking issue you do, but I absolutely agree on the Clutch Grip insert. It’s cheap feeling plastic and I actually had them send me another one because I couldn’t believe a grip insert would wiggle around like that on a flagship bow. The replacement was slightly better but still not solid, so I wrapped it with tennis wrap and now I’m fine with it, but they definitely need to upgrade that part. In terms of the kicking problem - curious where you have the cams on the axels and what’s your center shot? My cams are further to the right and it looks off visually but the string is centered. Also, the manual is wrong about resetting the cams to factory spec - instead of 1 turn it should be 2 turns. I confirmed this with Bowtech.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
What's your draw length? Just curious as the shop was saying that's a big factor in why it feels so bad to me. I'm sure there's some pretty sweet after market grips that can be bought for it. I actually really like the overall feel of the grip, just not the plastic part ... Last night I stripped the bow, took the cams all the way to the left then all the way to the right then back to center. I'm starting over with it. I'm going to set the draw length to 28" and see if it shoots any better. I really want to figure out the kick. I understand why the draw cycle feels bad at the longer DL
@ericv97454 жыл бұрын
I’m at 28.5” for draw length. Maybe that’s the difference. Hope you can figure it out! Agreed on the grip - the shape is great but when you’re handling the bow or carrying it it’s not a good feeling to have that insert moving around slightly.
@babjwmson4 жыл бұрын
Sand blast the grip. It works well for those who dont like batting or hockey tape wraps. Takes away the slip without losing the hand placement.
@davidconsalvo17114 жыл бұрын
Wonder which company gave this guy an envelope
@john41414 жыл бұрын
The nitty gritties! Love the honesty broda. Good vid, can't wait to see the prime (I have a CT9), but still wanting to know why you didn't pick up a PSE. I know you said it'd be in one of your videos. Sorry, I'm impatient. lol 🤙🏼
@primal_inc4 жыл бұрын
what a great honest video! when are releasing the prime video?
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
It's the one I'm working on now. Probably late next week.
@africanwidow4 жыл бұрын
Hi Brandon! Just a quick hello and to say that I am really enjoying your videos. So keep them coming. I am not interested in a Bowtech yet I would be interested in what the pro shop said about that particular bow. I am shooting an Hoyt Nitrum 34 right now from a few years ago. I am happy with it. Perhaps a Matthews VXR or Traverse sometime. Take care. And I subscribed. Rick
@jeanenebishop1124 жыл бұрын
I'm shooting the bowtech Realmx. As the draw drops into the valley it takes a conscious effort to slow the draw so that I do not hit the back wall with so much force that it causes a violent vibration into my grip. Thoughts? The power disc on the bow is set to comfort
@Pdro-gw7lu4 жыл бұрын
Jeanene Bishop does setting it to power instead of comfort reduce the let off? Maybe trying that, reduce the “depth” of the valley perhaps
@drested17934 жыл бұрын
Man, I REALLY wanted to get into this bow. Can’t speak to shooting because I don’t own it but for the price, the plastic limb pockets were a turn off. The way the cams can be moved to replace shimming is awesome but only time will tell about the durability of that system on the end of the limbs as they are. I wasn’t willing to gamble. I know everybody complains about Mathews mass weight but they just look like they’re built for the long haul.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
The Mathews feels like I could use it as a hiking stick and still shoot straight with it! I'm with you about the adjustability and the plastic parts, not just on the limb pockets...
@BosleyBeats3 жыл бұрын
Ok second comment after watching. Very interesting review. Honest and you’ve earned a subscriber and I can’t wait to go through your back catalog and see what you do next. I really like the “what not to do” for this bow. The executive summary here from my thoughts and your review is: This bow is about trade offs. Lack of absolute comfort (end to end) versus session after session; season after season consistency in shot-to-target placement. Curious to see if this is where you land after your in-depth review. Feedback/Long comment: I may have missed it but I’m not sure how long you shot the bow before reviewing. This may like you say, it’s a matter of your personal preference. I think the cost differential is you’re paying for the cam lock system. There are a few reviews that note the bow holds steady between field to broadhead and keeping solid groups. That alone, adds a good deal for the R&D surcharge we see with the bow. That and you’re saving on the cost of having it be professionally tuned or buying a bow press to do it yourself. Again looking back at other reviewers I can see a commonality in which they are heavily in favor of the consistency for grouping, in conjunction with the ease of tuning. This may offset for the fit and feel of this bow that did not appeal to you. Overall, I’m curious how you would feel running a few hundred arrows through this bow. Just out of curiosity. As an experiment I purchased a Diamond (Bowtech) Infinite Edge Pro. I’ve put about 3000 arrows through it and 2 accidental dry fires. Bow was about 349 not including upgraded 5 pin sight. Bow runs exceptionally well. Has the same “thud” you y’all about regarding vibration as well. This may be a bowtech thing. Shooting that many arrows I would thing it would bother me; it doesn’t. It’s just the architecture. The grouping for that cheap bow is still great; but after 3K arrows ive lost 1 pound of draw weight. So I think for that cost and abnormal shooting scenario, a thud for aftershock and 1 pound of draw weight drop after 2 months of consecutive shooting is doable. The same may be scalable up to this much more professional bow that by design won’t lose a pound of draw weight after 3K shots; you can essentially set it and forget it. In short it’s about trade offs... consistency versus absolute end to end comfort, it seems.
@brandonmcdonald61213 жыл бұрын
I shot the Bowtech a while lot. It grouped well buy I didn't enjoy the shooting experience as much as the others. The kick out based on my grip was funky but that's not the bows fault, just not the best one for me.
@BosleyBeats3 жыл бұрын
Brandon Mcdonald makes complete sense. You have to feel comfortable with the tool you’re going to use long term and so on. There’s no use forcing yourself into the shoe if it doesn’t fit.
@stephenw33694 жыл бұрын
I’m curious if bowtech contacted you. I shoot a older boss and was thinking of upgrading. Great videos, thank you.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
They messaged me a couple times but we didn't connect. Honestly, I just think it's me and my shot. I really wanted to like it...
@Yoitsbrian_4 жыл бұрын
Wow i just bought this bow today. Shot it for a long time before i made my decision. Over the pse evo nxt and the new prime bow. Thought it was neck and neck with the pse.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that if you liked it.
@LAsportsman273 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying that this is NOT an honest video, but there are so many people saying this without having shot the Revolt for themselves lmao. I have seen guys fall in love with this bow and have 0 complaints. So are they being superficially impressed? Because this is "FINALLY, AN HONEST REVIEW" stated by so many with 0% first hand experience with this bow? Brandon you've created a can of worms! Bravo, sir!
@brandonmcdonald61213 жыл бұрын
After basically a year of having heard feedback about it here's what I've concluded. Guys with draws under 28" like the draw cycle, longer and the cams just feel like crap at the end. I didn't like the way the bow finished for me and my grip which is obviously subjective.
@LAsportsman273 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 I'm genuinely impressed with your videos-including this one.
@BigwoodzOG4 жыл бұрын
kicking out to the left usually indicates too weak an arrow spine.
@JustShootYourBow6 ай бұрын
This video aged like fine wine.
@brandonmcdonald61216 ай бұрын
Hahaha. Still can’t shoot that bow! Picked one up at the shop the other day. Same issue.
@18wheelerham4 жыл бұрын
Do you sell the bow you don't like just curious. Just found the channel I like the honesty in you reviews
@RzAk-ut1hb4 жыл бұрын
Hilarious that I just shot the Revolt X today and come across your video today. And yes I was expecting to like it but I was very disapointed.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Might just not be our thing.
@bretthill35344 жыл бұрын
Been on the hunt for a new bow. Thanks for making such well made videos. Thursday I found your Channel and ended up watching your videos for at least 2 to hours. Great job and thanks for helping me make a decision. Tomorrow I'm off to archery world USA Fairfied Ohio to shoot a couple you liked.
@scottrockett63823 жыл бұрын
Great detailed honest review! Subbed.
@Jay_Michael4 жыл бұрын
I own the Realm SR6 #70 @ 29" in comfort mode. It's basically the same bow, minus a different cam and cam lock. I've never shot such an amazing bow in my life. In all honesty, I think something is wrong with the bow... Let us know if you follow up with any issues..
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Will do. I'm totally open to that being the case, or it just being me! I haven't given up. I really like the draw in comfort until the last 2 inches. I'm going to drop it to 28 or 29 and see how it feels. I'll let everyone know
@Jay_Michael4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 yeah, definitely keep us posted. I'd be interested to know the issue. Even my Destroyer 350 didn't have a snap at the last few inches, and that bow wanted to always just take off! I usually don't mess with cams myself.. I bring it to my tech guy. Too much going on these days
@thylacine19623 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, what a review. Got to subscribe here. At last, some who really knows how to do a bow review. How refreshing.
@brandonmcdonald61213 жыл бұрын
Haha, glad you liked it. Thanks for the sub
@thearrowguru52764 жыл бұрын
Bradon, there are so many things with your review and description of this bow I do not know where to start. You either have something really really wrong or out of whack. I almost get the feeling that you went into this "review" with the intent not to like this bow. I would not be surprised of one of the other bows you review get a glowing review and maybe we find out they are now supporting the channel. It's hard to take you seriously when the pin indicator goes into the cam in a position that the actual draw length is printed on that cam confuses you but changing the draw length on a Prime is just so easy? Not buying it
@toddlymburner57834 жыл бұрын
The Arrow Guru he clearly is intentionally trying to disparage Bowtech as every other review has it being one of the best draw cycles of any bow. I have a RevoltX and I bought a RX4 and shoot the rest of the new bows. Bowtech made good bows this year. I would say the VXR is the best bow this year and the RevoltX is right there behind it. Or he is messing with the bow taking it apart and trying to adjust it and he himself has no idea what he’s doing. He did a video about why he won’t shoot pse however the entire video is about a particular bow shop. He’s doing stuff for attention nothing more.
@brandongrinstead35363 жыл бұрын
Todd Lymburner I was between the VXR and bowtech. The main reason is I went bowtech to be able to work on my bow myself without bowpress. Do the Matthews spacers have the adjustability with the spacers as the bowtech? Or is the bowtech able to be adjusted more precisely than the Matthews for specific shooters? Real question
@1arrowshort3 жыл бұрын
you head the nail on the head!
@garthweathersby942610 күн бұрын
Looks like the draw weight is to much for you
@christopherfaber78764 жыл бұрын
Great video, Brandon! Thanks for sharing your honest experience with the Revolt X. Also, maybe it’s just me but for some reason when I’m looking at your channel via the KZfaq app it only shows your last 3 uploads and nothing else. On the Chrome web browser everything looks normal though.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that about other people's videos too. Not sure why it's doing that... That's for letting me know!
@MotoGPatrick4 жыл бұрын
The manual has a table with flip disk pin settings and post settings for draw lenghts.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Correct. I did look it up after my dumbass wasn't figuring it out easily. Obviously the flip disc issues were my fault.
@aaronwilder99924 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! 👍 Thanks for posting it. I was curious how each bow compared to the Traverse that you shot last year. My local shop has one left from last year since they are 9 weeks out on the VXR 31.5, I thought about picking it up and going to the Total Archery Challenge with it instead of my using my Triax.
@drested17934 жыл бұрын
Aaron Wilder I don’t think they do compare. The closest I’ll bet will be the Prime. I ordered a Traverse in January after looking at these same bows. I’m curious what he thinks as well ‘cause I think the Traverse still tops em.
@aaronwilder99924 жыл бұрын
Hey Dre Sted, I had a chance to shoot the Traverse and I thought there was just a slight amount of vibration, but I was able to shoot it really well (like Xs) right from the first shot and the next 10 to follow up shots. I was only at 20 meters. I thought it was aggressive, but much more comfortable to shoot then my Triax. I am curious about how the VXR really compares to the Traverse at Longer shoots. I have shot my Triax out to 76 meters accurately. It just wasn't as comfortable to shoot (I have a 30 inch draw) as the Traverse.
@drested17934 жыл бұрын
Aaron Wilder My traverse is really quiet and vibe free. The one you shot may have been out of synch in the cams. Despite the ultra long riser the VXR still felt like a short bow and for me personally wasn’t as nice to shoot.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
I'm going to shoot the winning bow against the traverse to see how it does. For me, Id rather have the stability and forgiveness that the longer bow gives me. I'm a 30+ draw though so the triax never felt good for me.
@aaronwilder99924 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I guess I will have to go pick one up.
@ericleong14534 жыл бұрын
Agreed when the feeling just not right for you. Any idea you could do review comparison on any lower end bow ?
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
I'd like to but it won't happen this year. Too many other video ideas I want to get to first.
@ObeyMeRo4 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. Can you do a review of your little place
@kevinwright89554 жыл бұрын
I shot the Revolt X a couple of weeks ago and thought it shot well. Still waiting to shoot the Bowtech Reckoning 35, PSE NXT 35, and Hoyt Axius Ultra. I've shot the Elite Ritual 35, but wasn't that impressed.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Long hunting bow or 3d/ target bow? I'm curious about the Prime black 5 and 8 (I think it's 8). I'm really liking the prime.
@jmtgolf2756 Жыл бұрын
When soccer dad's that let their wife have an open relationship review a bow
@jethroscooter72144 жыл бұрын
I don’t shoot pse, the bowtech feels box brand, I’m going to buy 5 bows but throw out the most expensive because it’s too expensive, them I’m going to be a homer and pick a short axel to axel bow just because. Unbiased, I think not.
@halfstep674 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem is that your draw length is long and those bowtech cams don't feel near as good in the longest draw setting. If you were a 29" or shorter draw length, the cam would feel a lot better. Try a reckoning 35 or 38 and see if you like the way those feel. But as far as the revolt x, the cam will dump hard toward the end with your long draw length.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
I called the shop today and they said the same thing. I'm actually going to shorten to 28 just to see how it feels. Nice thing about the bowtech, it's super quick to adjust.
@halfstep674 жыл бұрын
That is actually a common problem with most manufacturers. They try to cover too much of a draw length range with their cams and the long and short settings are always harder to tune and the draw feels worse. I try to avoid a bow where I will have to adjust the cam in the longest position. I have worked on some Hoyts that would do the same thing. Hoyt usually have 3 sizes of base cams so it makes it easier to avoid setting the draw in the longest settings. The closer to the middle of the cam a person can set the draw length, the better it will feel and it will tune easier. Sometimes it can be a bear to tune in the longest/shortest positions. I will probably buy a reckoning 38 sometime this year. I have a 30" draw so I will okay with the bow. You may have to step up to a longer ATA bow regardless of brand. At you draw length, you will get good speed. I am a 30" draw myself so I try to avoid those short bows where I will be at the longest draw length setting. Good luck.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
@@halfstep67 I just started setting up the hoyt tonight and noticed that the draw range on this one was from 29 or 30 (can't remember exactly) up to 32. This makes a lot of sense to me. Too much adjustability on one cam and the very short, and very long dl guys are getting the shaft... I get it from a bow shops perspective though. No press needed and you can change stuff out QUICK.
@halfstep674 жыл бұрын
A lot of shops don't really tune a bow anyways, they just set it up and the customer doesn't really know. I am a 30" draw so I want a bow that will go to 31" or longer. If it only goes to 30", I won't bother with it. I am also a lefty and usually have to order a bow so I want to make sure it will tune before I buy one. The vast majority of archers are in the 27" to 29" range. Very few archers are actually 30" or more. But bows are speed rated at the 30" and 70 pounds. in the past, some manufacturers would make the 30" setting hotter in relationship to the other settings. This gave the impression that the bow was faster than what it really was in the other settings. Guys would set it at 29" thinking they would only loose 10fps but would loose closer to 20 fps. Bows have gotten pretty short and having a 30"+ draw length can reduce one's choices by a 1/3 or more. Always buy with at least an inch of draw length to spare on the long or short side. The good thing about having a longer draw is that the speed will be there. The drop away rest and expandable broadhead has become standard equipment these days. Mainly out of necessity. A lot of today's bows have short ATA and low BH with big aggressive high let off cams and the shootability has surpassed the average archer's abilities. Archers today need to have better form and shot execution to get the bow to tune and shoot well. The draw length and poundage needs to be adjusted properly to give the archer as much forgiveness as possible.
@vangthao8884 жыл бұрын
So it draws like the old bowtech admiral. Stacks up hard right before it breaks into the valley.
@josephtreadlightly56864 жыл бұрын
Pandoras box was opened & Must Be Nice slipped through the cracks...reminds me of some of these grips going on flagship bows these days
@aesopsoze4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Mathews Traverse. Unfortunately I don't pick it up until tomorrow evening.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
You're gonna love it. Still shoot mine even with the new vxr as an option
@aesopsoze4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 Thanks! I do. I went from a $125 bow to a $1000 bow. It makes a huge difference.
@aesopsoze4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't remember the brand of my other bow, They said it was POS.
@stokermeister34 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to get it set up better by a bow tec just to make you feel better?
@windstretch2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have that Bow
@Terpedup9253 жыл бұрын
Did you test the bow before buying it??
@kghunter77054 жыл бұрын
Move over James Cameron!! Great movie trailer or I mean bow review ... still going to shoot one just not going to buy first without trying…..thanks for the honest, well put together review!!
@vm8594 жыл бұрын
Bowtechs are know for not having a great draw cycle on the last inch of the cam adjustment. Calling them cheap looking is kind of silly though cam tech is most advanced out there and the finish one of the best only rivaled by g5 prime. Its a great bow shot it a bunch but ultimately went with mathews as ive owned a realm x and sr6.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
I think it was just the plastic parts and the way things fit together. Plus the actual machining around the grip and some of the tighter turns wasnt as precision as some of the others are. I called the shop today and he said just want you're staying about that last inch on the draw. I'm going to try lowering it to 28 dl just to see. I've liked bowtech in the past. Almost bought an sr6 last year.
@toddlymburner57834 жыл бұрын
You are completely wrong dude! Bowtech is WELL KNOWN for having one of if not the best draw cycles.
@mattthecat50364 жыл бұрын
I second the Perfex review comment.
@josephtreadlightly56864 жыл бұрын
perfeX vs. SX3
@stevepereira6874 жыл бұрын
Hi Brandon. When is the hoyt review coming out? Do you tune your own bows? Is so. Can you show your set up.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Before I start to judge them I get them shooting bullets with a bare shaft. Even the bowtech shoots straight. The hoyt got in last so it'll be last. So far, I like it! Biggest issue so far is how much more expensive it is.
@christohercopley66014 жыл бұрын
I have had the worst experience trying to get a new PSE. Been Mathews guy for ever. The shop I have that’s close had nothing to shoot mainly bc I am left handed but totally understand why you would just say screw it 30 buts to shoot a bow is ridiculous
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
I actually paid the money! I wanted to see if they'd actually follow through! As they were ringing me out I kind of mentioned it to the shop owners wife. She just smoked and took my money! Ha. The Mathews is shooting pretty sweet this year, just saying.
@Ari--d3 жыл бұрын
that crazy letoff sounds pretty good
@coreytrick4 жыл бұрын
I had a massive brain malfunction with the stud in my Stan release, luckily the release only broke the arrow retainer on my Hamskea rest as it went sailing through my bow. But otherwise, yes I love my Stan Perfx as well. Thanks for the objective view of the bow. I really like my RealmX but I'm not an every year bow guy and there is just something about everything going on with the Bowtech that makes me want something simpler and less moving parts.
@l.i.archer5379 Жыл бұрын
The Mathews cams are made of 6061 aluminum, and the Bowtech cams are made of 7075 aluminum. It will last way longer than the Mathews cam. Believe me, I know. I shoot a Bowtech Destroyer 350 that I've dry-fired 3 times now in the 12 years that I've owned it, and not one single bend in either cam. Try doing that with a Mathews.
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
Might be true. They haven’t really had a bad rep for the last few years.
@madman4320003 жыл бұрын
How are those Cuban cigars compared to Nicaraguan, or something rolled in Miami?
@brandonmcdonald61213 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't know the difference! I did like these. They were really mild.
@finlayc1213 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Production quality 😁
@truthsayer814 жыл бұрын
I’m watching this after spending my day shooting every flagship bow I could get my hands on today, bowtech revolt, revolt x, Mathews VXR 28&31.5, elite Kure, Carbon RX4 hot axius ultra. I thought the revolt and the revoltx were hands and shoulders above everything other than the grip on the carbon RX4, the axius wasn’t close, the Hoyt draw cycle wasn’t close. The revolt x at 70# felt easier than the Hoyt at 65#, and everything else was terrible in comparison, very disappointed with the Mathews, I’ll be going with a revolt, if I could put the RX4 grip on it I’d have the perfect bow.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
Good feedback. Bowtech reached out to me. We shall see if something's just wrong with it. If there is I'll do a new video for sure!
@truthsayer814 жыл бұрын
Brandon Mcdonald id be pretty surprised if there wasn’t something wrong. I haven’t heard too many negatives about these bows so far. I hope so anyway, I just dropped $1900aud on a revoltx haha
@CJLiveFromTheOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Mcdonald, Well done. I'm looking to get a new bow and I've narrowed it down to either the Elite Kure or Bowtech Revolt X. You've given me some good points to ponder. Thanks for putting your videos out there. I'll be subscribing and looking forward to more.
@brandonmcdonald61213 жыл бұрын
Go shoot them all and see how they feel. Thanks for watching!
@jeffmwoods3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. very refreshing. in this very strange age of people being offended and irrationally loyal to things for god knows why , i for one still appreciate someone speaking from a personal perspective.
@BigInjun053 жыл бұрын
I have a bowtech realm that is identical accept for the cam lock. Love the bow and the grip is supposed to be solid not squishy. Only other bow id consider is a mathews. 2 best companies right now imo.
@tybowhunter89874 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on arrow fletchings. I am currently running 3 Blazers 2 inch long. I am thinking about maybe going to a 4 fletch set up or add some offset or both. Or maybe switch from blazer to max hunters. Do you have any recommendations. The broadheads I use are flying arrow toxics 125 grain fixed broadhead. They are 1 inch in diameter from either side of the cutting surfaces.
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
I think you have to test your setup out with multiple options. First, get your bow set the way you like it with field tips. Then you have to guess... I assume you don't want to buy 50 different sets of vanes and 100 arrows (2 sets for each) I stand on the shoulders of the type A archers that have come before me. This season I tested a few setups based on other recommendations. Blazers on a helical, three and 4 Fletch Aae Max on a helical, three and 4 Fletch. I went with a three Fletch aae Max because I decided to hunt with VAP micro diameter arrows and I couldn't get 4 on them easily. As far as head goes, I'm a fan of mechanicals... The ever present battle. More forgiving in flight. I know if I hit the vitals with a fixed or mechanical, the animal is going down so I'd rather have something more forgiving if I have a wierd shot angle and give any torque to the bow. I'll do a video on this. Just haven't wanted to Wade into those waters yet. I like the Sevr heads right now because you can use all of them to practice with and not ruin them. The blades screw shut. Makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.
@tybowhunter89874 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 thanks. I have been looking into what people like about each and what may be better so far. Cant do to much yet until I get my news string in for my Bowtech Carbon Icon in terms of getting everything dialed I'm since things will be put out of whack once I get that on for a bit. The flecthimg arrangements was just something my local shop was suggesting and same with the other veins. Dont have a fletchkng jig yet to play around with that stuff yet but will probably be looking into getting one pretty soon too.
@martinaddison14614 жыл бұрын
I work for years to buy one bow must be nice to buy five
@brandonmcdonald61214 жыл бұрын
We are going to talk about that too. I gave up some dreams to pursue a career that made money. It's been an interesting journey.