Single Bevel is better than Double Bevel, but not the reason you think.

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Brandon Mcdonald

Brandon Mcdonald

Жыл бұрын

I dive into the new Iron Will 150 wide single bevel and my surprising results on flight and accuracy.

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@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery Жыл бұрын
To hear "torquage" and "congruency" in the same breath was truly fascinating.
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
Maximum torqueage!!
@adamyoder1
@adamyoder1 Жыл бұрын
The lighting in your videos is killer. Always enjoy when you drop a new video. Thanks for your time!
@DivenByPrecision
@DivenByPrecision 11 ай бұрын
Love your videos man. You always seem to bring something different to the table, you look at things a little different than all the others that seem to rehash the same things. Keep up the good work
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 11 ай бұрын
Very much appreciate that
@charles1075
@charles1075 Жыл бұрын
This sounds like a good reason for a trip to Huntsville Alabama to work with Smarter Every Day.
@hellcatoutdoors
@hellcatoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back, amazing content as always and hope to see more coming out soon 🤙🏼📷
@harveygalloway3965
@harveygalloway3965 Жыл бұрын
It is good to see you back and I never thought about the single bevel the way you presented it.
@kylehouser9176
@kylehouser9176 Жыл бұрын
So glade to see you back with the Hoyt! Love your videos never miss one!
@derekmurphy4096
@derekmurphy4096 7 ай бұрын
What a wicked video! Great editing and layout
@williamworkman1468
@williamworkman1468 Жыл бұрын
I've come to the same conclusions! Good video and very informative. What's even crazier in the larger the bevel edge, the more stabilization. I've been shooting the crafted archery aero 1 in 175 grain. 82.4 LB bow sending 525 grains at 285 fps. Even though it's a large fixed head, bullets at 60 yards. Keep digging! I'm interested to see the next video.
@glenncharles6622
@glenncharles6622 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating to see this today. Just earlier, in very windy conditions, i was out shooting 4 types of Iron Will broadheads. The standard double bevel wides have always shot well for me. Today, in the wind, I was amazed at how well the single bevels shot. Much tighter groups and for whatever reason, way less impacted by the wind.
@feyrband
@feyrband 6 ай бұрын
More spin means less impact by wind. Think about QBs with good tight, fast spirals in inclement weather games vs the noodle arm ones.
@DigtoDef
@DigtoDef 2 ай бұрын
Hey Brandon! Great to see you at TAC-SA. Just getting around to watching this particular video and I recall us discussing this on IG when you were first starting shooting the IW wides. I think you've done a really great job here explaining a complex concept in easy to understand terms. Best regards!
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 2 ай бұрын
Good to see you as well! Sorry I didn’t make it by the booth for a longer conversation. Let me know if you make it up to Nashville!
@ericwiitala5407
@ericwiitala5407 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you and spent a lot of time tuning my arrows. Knowing my bow was tuned, I used different spines (ended up sticking w/Easton Axis 300 spine Match Grade), then adding/subtracting weight up front, then knock tuned. I was punching perfect holes in paper with 610 gr, 250 gr up front. 150 gr field tip, 25 gr ss collar, 75 gr insert. The outsert/insert stiffens the arrow and provides structural integrity. My arrows have 4 fletchings w/a left helical. Then I went with the Iron Will left single bevel. There is no difference in accuracy between my field points and broad heads. Took me a long time to go through the process.
@michaelcolthart4006
@michaelcolthart4006 Жыл бұрын
You are correct….spin averages out build imperfections. Your bow will naturally spin an arrow based on how your string is twisted so ideally your vane orientation and broad-head bevel direction would all match to induce the same rotation. E.G. bow clocks left then left helical/offset with left-bevel broadhead. All other things being equal, that will give the most forgiving arrow flight and the best terminal performance.
@papaschuette
@papaschuette Жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct. My arrows clock left off my bow. So I fletch with a left helical using an Arizona EZ Fletch Mini Max and have a 125gr Iron Will Single Bevel to the left up front. This is my first year using this combination, but they are grouping really well together. So I don't foresee any issues.
@billyjohnson811
@billyjohnson811 Жыл бұрын
Agreed..Kayuga's Pilot and Zot are super forgiving. The rotation is manifested with the ferrel design on the Zot.
@brandonbonner7559
@brandonbonner7559 24 күн бұрын
Videos are always on point sir, I also shoot Iron will heads and can 100% backup what you are saying. To the point that I shot some M3s to see the difference and the iron will single bevel heads definitely grouped better at 60 yards. I did the exact same thing, basic paper tune then shot the broad heads and they were spot on with a slightly imperfect tune. I just picked up the new 100 grain wide vented that I will be testing this weekend, see how they do.
@grantsenechal1011
@grantsenechal1011 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I love it!
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gibsonlife573
@gibsonlife573 Жыл бұрын
You can tell people miss you great job bud great explanation great job thank you buddy
@bigald9560
@bigald9560 Жыл бұрын
Tuning, tuning, tuning. Makes your life so much easier when changing broadheads. Bareshaft paper tuning and nock tuning preferred
@scottm2244
@scottm2244 2 ай бұрын
Makes complete sense to me. My bow rotates arrows left so I put my fletching on left offset. Gives far better accuracy. Then I buy kudu single bevel left broadheads and it’s very accurate to 50 yards.
@ianmorcott3113
@ianmorcott3113 Жыл бұрын
The ranch fairy is happy.
@johnheitkamp4792
@johnheitkamp4792 Жыл бұрын
I don't always agree with you but i like how you do things, keep it up
@beaubellamy2999
@beaubellamy2999 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you made this video. It may have been me being a moron but this whole time I thought single bevel just meant one side was sharp and the other completely dull and I couldn’t figure out how that would be helpful.
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
Haha, well we’ve got the basics covered now at least
@HuckFTW
@HuckFTW 3 ай бұрын
0:00 I definitely thought that squeaky door was an elk for a second…
@HuntsT
@HuntsT Жыл бұрын
Well I can tell you with 100% confidence that your arrow has begun to spin the moment it leaves the bow. Not 18" or 2 feet, instantly. This occurs with a bare shaft and a field point just due to the strings serving direction. So that theory is definitely not why it is more consistent. My guess is that it is a consistent force vector on the arrow thet overpowers any irregularities in airpressure within the first 10 to 15 feet from the bow. Instead of the front of the arrow having to decide which direction it wants to go (like a knuckle ball), it acts on the air in one direction( like a fast ball). That's my theory.
@ronaldirvineII
@ronaldirvineII 6 ай бұрын
Brandon so are you shooting rip tko elite 300s with the 150grain iron will single bevel. Are you using the iron will collars too or whats ur entire aarow setup, weight and what fps you getting. Also i noticed and you mentioned your shooting the iron will right broadheads so does ur bow naturally spin arrows to the right. Asking all this cuz I shoot the rip tko elite 300 with hybrid vanes max helical to the left with iron will collar and my mathews setup naturally spins my arrows to the left. Anyways im thinking about adding the iron will left broadheads to my arrow setup for 2024 so wanting opinions on it now that u been shooting it for while. ABT
@torreyintahoe
@torreyintahoe 3 ай бұрын
In my experience, if I can get a bare shaft hitting with my field points, my broad heads will too.
@Jimbowiejr
@Jimbowiejr 4 ай бұрын
Decided that after changing front double bevel to single bevel a few yrs ago. Thought it was me. In fact I shoot single bevel at 80+ better than practice head. Again thought it was just me.
@88northoutdoors29
@88northoutdoors29 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Makes sense to me.
@DeadHeadArchery
@DeadHeadArchery Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the VPA's? single bevel or double?
@mikebarriga
@mikebarriga Жыл бұрын
How I see it. If you can get a broad head to hit in the same place as a field point then the broad head isn’t doing much to affect the flight of the arrow aside from how it exits the bow. If the broad head spins faster I’d think that it would affect arrows drop more so it could hit lower than the field point at further distance. That’s just how it makes sense in my brain.
@YoureSoVane
@YoureSoVane Жыл бұрын
You're not wrong but you're missing something critical. All broadheads slow down the arrow, so when you tune the bow such that the field points fly the same, you are giving the arrow an offset trajectory. Just the extra surface area alone will slow down the arrow, as well. In fact, compared to the forward speed of the arrow, the extra spin has very little effect on slowing it down. The surface area of the broadhead plays a bigger role is wasting speed. The issue with accuracy is then there is not enough spin, which allows the front of the arrow to catch the air and fly in a random direction. Hope this helps!
@ralphdeniscojr6198
@ralphdeniscojr6198 Жыл бұрын
Thank's for your study on broadhead flight you might be on to something. I have been bowhunting for over 40 years. I remember not having as much flight problems with fixed blade broadheads 1-1/4" wide or narrower as long as your bow was squared up right I'm talking compound bows and your arrows were straight and the broadheads spun true you had pretty good flight with old launcher rests and alot of people shot with finger too. I really feel that when they introduced carbon arrows in the begining speed and durability was there only concern. If you shot an old xx75 easton arrow they were . 003 straightness and the walls of the arrow was almost perfect in thickness. They also payed attention to the grade of Aluminum which was 7075. My point is they flex consistent as long the bow was repeating properly. So know we got carbon and the flex rate between arrow vary alot more due to having an area on the arrow shaft that is thicker which will flex different unless each arrow is inspected you will experience a erratic flex that's why nock tuning is necessary to get fixed blades to be close to your field points. Target archers have to nock tune each arrow to get the flight they need to compete and sometimes even with the best arrows they get some in the dozen that will not turn well that is multiplied when you introduce a fixed blade broadhead to a hunting arrow. Although technology has done some great things in archery alot of people have become rich because of it. Everything unfortunately in todays world is dollar motivated and in my opinion the heavy double bevel fixed blade is a good example. I myself cannot afford this venture if you can yes it will be better but is it really necessary in most cases. I do understand the need for such quality systems for dangerous game animals. They require alot more durability and structure in the arrow and broadhead. In my opinion a well placed shot with a quality broadhead gets the job done cleanly and ethically on most big game animals as long as you have enough power in your setup. Thank's again for your input you got me thinking about the blades causing more spin. It's really great even at my age I'm still learning. Thank's Ralph
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
A lot in this comment and I appreciate you taking the time.
@WillsGoneWalkabout
@WillsGoneWalkabout Жыл бұрын
Good to have you back in my feed sir. Interesting hypothesis. I want to question it in good faith discussion. While I think your reasoning of getting the arrow to spin quicker is sound, I wonder if the effort to get all arrow spines, all fletchings in the equivalent spot (in relation to spine weakness/stiffness - pick your poison), and broadhead indexing exactly the same across a dozen arrows is feasible. Then we have arrow squaring (nock end and pointy end) to contend with. I have to assume if your broadheads are seated slightly differently (because you didn't square each arrow the same) then you will have additional variation. I want to believe that a double bevel, three blade broadhead would be more forgiving as it is imparting less directional / torsional effects. But that's just what I think, let me know what you think.
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
My guess is if I had a dozen arrows that were 90% good verses 100% the limiting factor is still my shooting ability.
@WillsGoneWalkabout
@WillsGoneWalkabout Жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 We are all in the same boat there mate! It's fun to tinker and play with out gear, it only makes us better archers/hunters. I enjoy your perspectives and trialing some of it myself. Cheers.
@samivey8416
@samivey8416 6 ай бұрын
Hey Brandon! It's Sam. I have a question about broadhead tuning. I do the Ranch Fairy process and then screw in my single bevel broad heads. They always hit right with my field point arrows. So I'm wondering what is the difference between the two?
@MossyOakFreak
@MossyOakFreak 23 күн бұрын
Ive always nock tuned bare shafts through paper to get them all close. Then fletched and nock tuned what minor differences the vanes made in paper. I've never had to broadhead tune any head ever in my life.
@brockpeck7073
@brockpeck7073 Жыл бұрын
Hey Brandon what bow are you shooting. Vtm 34?
@RugerNuger
@RugerNuger Жыл бұрын
Haha clarksons farm tee-shirt love it 🤘🤘🤣🤣
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
My wife bought it at their shop in England while she was there!
@RugerNuger
@RugerNuger Жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 awesome haha
@jasonmc6997
@jasonmc6997 Жыл бұрын
You realize you just proved something the Ranch Fairy has been preaching for quite a while with nock tuning and shooting your broadheads. The best part is it costs you nothing but 2 to 3 minutes of your time. I wonder how many would've blamed the broadhead and proceeded to shim cams, twist yolks, change top hats, adjust the technologies, without even giving a thought to spinning the nock?
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Super easy to do, just to see if it gets better.
@allenr6687
@allenr6687 Жыл бұрын
Nock tuning is great when your bow has a decent tune on it. He did say bow was shooting almost perfect bullet hole.. Ranch fairy has also gave tuning advice to compound shooters to keep adding point weight till arrow bareshaft tunes. Great for trad guys but for a guy all about efficiency and science it’s a tad ironic.
@jimmiekaelin4804
@jimmiekaelin4804 Жыл бұрын
A little bit of Ranch Fairy goes a long way.
@bigwestreviews4933
@bigwestreviews4933 Жыл бұрын
Spine index before gluing fetching and you'll never have to knock tune plus, you'll be way more accurate
@wayneswendsen8310
@wayneswendsen8310 Жыл бұрын
I would add that "nock tuning" is just finding the stiff point in your arrow. Either way you look at it, you are creating consistency because every arrows spine is coming out the same way. Before nock tuning, you're guessing where the stiff point in your arrow.
@nathanmccutchen5272
@nathanmccutchen5272 Жыл бұрын
Love the Diddly Squat Farm tshirt!
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
Wife got it for me while she was in England. Pretty Badass!
@Ughmahedhurtz
@Ughmahedhurtz Жыл бұрын
Sail area. I would be very surprised if the single-bevel's relatively small bevel edge exerted more rotational force in air than the large vanes, though that would be highly dependent upon how much spiral your vanes were installed with and how wide/stiff the vanes are, yes? I think it could be argued that if the single-bevel exerted that much force, you would see a measurable drop in arrow velocity vs a similarly constructed double-bevel. I expect that situation inverts once the arrow hits a medium denser than air. I'll grant you that it probably helps a measurable amount, meaning the rest is academic if you're not seeing radical changes in velocity or drift at longer ranges.
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
Between the bleeders, the blades and the fact that it’s steal so it doesn’t bend at all, I think the iron will specifically is catching a pretty decent amount of air.
@tirsogarza6799
@tirsogarza6799 9 ай бұрын
What insert are you running with your 150g setup?
@KA-lm6sp
@KA-lm6sp 11 ай бұрын
I've started hearing more about the DCA Super Sabre vanes that you're using. How have they been for you?
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 11 ай бұрын
Solid choice. I don’t think they steer as strong as a blazer but they are definitely not as loud.
@rickscheurer
@rickscheurer Жыл бұрын
another ? that came to mind, would less FOC help or hurt spin rate. does it take more fletch to spin a high FOC vs low FOC....
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
I think it actually changes. Off the shot the arrow flexes harder, so a larger vein right out the gate would be nice to have but once the arrow is in the air and stabilized a lighter weight, Smaller Vane would be fine since there’s more wait out front. We are definitely getting into the nitty-gritty. After seeing some of these results, I may just switch to a giant set of vanes even though they are super loud and get maximum stability.
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
I’m using the talk feature and it definitely used the wrong “wait… “ I hate spelling but I’m not that bad
@YoureSoVane
@YoureSoVane Жыл бұрын
Without getting crazy, no. The force applied to the arrow is the same, as long as the fletching is the same. It's more about the stiffness of the shaft, stiffness of the vane, and overall weight of the arrow. Heavier arrows take more fletching to spin up.
@rickscheurer
@rickscheurer Жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 True true. Per Seans note below, and, yes, this is a long rabbit hole, BUT, making the assumption the arrow doesnt change, the trend now is high(er) FOC, which i can agree with but need to weigh all factors. if you have to throw larger vanes on back to obtain stability, you then have to throw more weight up front to maintain FOC. i just havent ever seen or heard of a "study", nor am i an engineer, that analyzes FOC and spin (etc). just interesting with trends and inevitably consumer demand/marketing/etc. Having spent a tremendous amount of time and money over the last 3 months tinkering, just makes me laugh cuase my setup will kill anything on continent (which i knew before tinkering)...
@heathmarcum5390
@heathmarcum5390 Жыл бұрын
Sorta like a rail car drag racing.. torque the framing up and also twisting... with the veins sorta acting like the slicks.. sorta lol
@timl8302
@timl8302 Жыл бұрын
Single bevel continues to rotate inside the animal. Also, the torque will split bone. It is like a wood chisel. I'd love to get a set of single bevels. But, I'm too invested in double bevel. Stingers & Black Hornet Ser-Razors.
@papaschuette
@papaschuette Жыл бұрын
Absolutely nothing wrong with either of those double bevels. I do prefer the Stingers over the Hornets, but only because of the length to width ratio being better for penetration on the Stingers.
@timl8302
@timl8302 Жыл бұрын
@@papaschuette That's true. I just want to try the Ser-Razors just because they look like a flying Battle Axe. LOL! I also, try to get them at least razorsharp.
@papaschuette
@papaschuette Жыл бұрын
@@timl8302 I would still go with the Buzzcut 4 blade or Killer Bee 4 blade. Both have sharper angles, leading to better penetration. The hornets are just too blunt of an angle for me.
@chrismacomber9727
@chrismacomber9727 Жыл бұрын
Cool video I need to get out shoot my broadheads but dam after getting of the roof from working here in NC I just can't bring myself to get out in the heat till the weekend lol..
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
I’m the same… it sucks right now
@ashesofamerica3753
@ashesofamerica3753 Жыл бұрын
What kind of target is that?
@aarongoeppner413
@aarongoeppner413 Жыл бұрын
I got them double bevel iron will wide 150’s!!! Badass head but damn they’re hard to get to fly straight! Id sell them if I could
@Michael.Outside
@Michael.Outside 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like a tuning issue. Mine fly like field points with no broadhead tuning.
@aarongoeppner413
@aarongoeppner413 10 ай бұрын
@@Michael.Outside idk what the deal is! I’ve tried everything. Shoots good at 20. 30 & beyond all over the place
@nrango3574
@nrango3574 9 ай бұрын
@@aarongoeppner413you’re not alone. Looking at selling mine now. I’ve never been less confident in my accuracy in my life. I had my bow tuned and Lancaster Archery and tried every fletching, wrap, collar, insert, etc and they just do not want the fly straight. I will agree that some/most of it is me and my form but I haven’t taken a “perfect John Dudley form” shot since I started hunting.
@aarongoeppner413
@aarongoeppner413 9 ай бұрын
@@nrango3574 man just sell them and get ya some qad exodus, trocars, or the new beast heads by bowmars
@maxgeorge8746
@maxgeorge8746 Жыл бұрын
Thais guy has some great slow mo of All kinds of arrow flights with different broadheads. 1nestly on KZfaq.
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
Another argument…. Use bigger fletchings?
@michaelficarro2591
@michaelficarro2591 Жыл бұрын
4 fletch with those fletchings, also try 3 and 4 with bigger vanes.
@sheyanderson4371
@sheyanderson4371 Жыл бұрын
If the single bevel is already proving to be more accurate with your current setup, more fletching would just reinforce the single bevel being more efficient. You would likely hit a point where they are equally accurate, but at the unneeded cost of increased drag and wind drift. My question now is, what is the difference between a single bevel 2-blade and a single bevel 3-blade? Would it also just further reinforce my argument above?
@GarrettLaPolt
@GarrettLaPolt Жыл бұрын
I had an interesting occurrence happen with my Mathews which clocks left naturally, at the time I was shooting 680g bigger vanes(can’t remember which one) and a 200 spine arrow with about 270’ish grains up front. So when I decided I wanted to shoot a faster arrow I dropped down to about 540 grains for reference I have a 31” draw and a 73 lbs set up, the arrow was now a 250 spine with a slightly shorter vane and different profile and roughly 175g point weight(tip and insert) it would actually sort of knuckle ball. So my thought were either the foc of the 680g arrow made it so it could overcome that natural clocking motion much easier or the vanes made a difference but I just thought it was really interesting that the “lighter” set up was sooooo much more finicky especially when it came to broadheads. Both set ups now with a left helical on the lighter arrow will both shoot field points and broadheads out 60 yards as a group. It just blew my mind how much of a difference it made.
@mikehottinger4212
@mikehottinger4212 Жыл бұрын
Brandon, I’ve had good luck with full helical (right) fletching with my Iron Will SB 125’s.
@skankhunt9078
@skankhunt9078 Жыл бұрын
​@@GarrettLaPoltI prefer dabbelbebbel
@bucko1172
@bucko1172 Жыл бұрын
Could you not test this by simply marking a vain or a line on the shaft and then shooting a target 3 feet from the bow and see which one rotates more in that distance? Maybe you would be able to tell if there’s enough difference in rotation with a single bevel that it would pay to do more testing with a high speed camera.
@neonomad6078
@neonomad6078 Жыл бұрын
Agree but might require using the cut angle at target entry point since the single bevel will rotate in the target too.
@jimmytillman206
@jimmytillman206 9 ай бұрын
I dunno man..I built my arrows to my bow and every single head I’ve put on has flown the exact same. No “broadhead tuning” at all
@yourmomma2995
@yourmomma2995 Жыл бұрын
lol, that is a tough one to believe, that a single bevel will shoot better than a double bevel, thats almost like saying a sharp broadhead will shoot better than a dull broadhead, i just dont believe it.
@DCBA1234.
@DCBA1234. Жыл бұрын
So i have 1 honest question that anyone is more than welcome to answer. I have wanted to use the Iron Will single bevel braodheads. A guy I know that owns a bowshop, told me to not waste my money on IronWills. If I want single bevel broadheads then I need to save about a 3rd of the cost and get Kudu 125g single bevel broadheads. I will say that they enter and come out with so much force. Almost every arrow hits the ground after a full pass through and shatters into multiple little 3 to 7 inch sections. Victory Vap Game elite 300. Total arrow weight is 487g
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
I’ve shot those before and they were great. For some reason I just like the IW stuff. I think the spin of the single bevel is more the point for this one as long as the surface area of the blade is similar
@jons858
@jons858 8 ай бұрын
Ive shot Kudu's. They are awesome. My complaint about the Kudu's is that I sometimes have issues re-sharpening even with the stay sharp guide. Can't really sharpen the bleeders and they are really small. I find IW to be easier to sharpen even though its a harder steel. Bleeders on IW are wayyyy better than the Kudu. But cant go wrong with either head. If you're on a budget, buy the Kudu. If you can swing the IW, you wont be sorry. You're going to kill whatever you hit with both heads. It comes down to budget and what your preference is for sharpening.
@DCBA1234.
@DCBA1234. 8 ай бұрын
@brandonmcdonald6121 thank you for taking the time and responding sir. I have been using the IW 125gr single and I won't go back to the Kudu lol. Kudu were nice but IW is noticeably better in my personal opinion.
@DCBA1234.
@DCBA1234. 8 ай бұрын
@jons858 I completely agree now that I've been using the IW this season. Got a 6 pack and I am impressed.
@zerotheklr650
@zerotheklr650 Жыл бұрын
I've always believed that the aerodynamic ability of a 125gn target tip is equal to the aerodynamic ability of a 100gn broadhead. Add that concept to helical vanes and single bevel equals the G.O.A.T arrow
@yourmomma2995
@yourmomma2995 Жыл бұрын
i agree with you, my 125gr field points shoot perfectly with my 100gr swhacker broadheads at distance, when i was shooting 100gr ramcats i had to use 150gr field points to match them at distance. i would never expect the same gr broadheads and field points to shoot perfectly together because the aerodynamics are totally different.
@thor1087
@thor1087 10 ай бұрын
@IronWillOutfitters Can probably test this theory in a day.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
The only useful information I got from this video is that we have very similar taste in reality TV shows and apparel....
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha! You make your own then. I’m subbed
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 you miss understood... The broadhead information I completely agree with, you explain it well. Just saying we both apparently enjoy Jeremy Clarkson's adventure into farming...
@isam950
@isam950 Жыл бұрын
Probably because they want to rotate. They are not a wing fighting rotation they are forcing rotation. This makes so much sense its nuts. Ithis is why I love this channel. You dick around with stuff and observe what matters and works. Not some blowhard that is closed minded.
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy messing around and learning stuff. I think this is getting into the weeds pretty far but i think it’s interesting
@isam950
@isam950 Жыл бұрын
@brandonmcdonald6121 No, because this actually helps people others keep talking about hiw it does in the animal and never do any thought into the actual shooting. Like you sorta mentioned if you can't hit what your aiming at then the animal walks away un harmed or injured not dead.
@jons858
@jons858 8 ай бұрын
How’s that target holding up to repetitive broadhead abuse?!?
@bbmas1930
@bbmas1930 Жыл бұрын
a good test that maybe confirms your suspicions: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rraFkteXvri1das.html The BH has a deliberate wing design though.
@jmar7744
@jmar7744 Жыл бұрын
Ok im sorry but I've shot single bevel, and double bevel regardless what you shoot you always make sure your equipment is ready for the shot. Sounds like the bear suffered from poor judgment and preparation or bad shot placement.
@billmcstay194
@billmcstay194 Жыл бұрын
Please buy the $10k Uber Slo-Mo camera.
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
The one I want is 18k… it’s so badass though!
@ItsDburch
@ItsDburch Жыл бұрын
Tl;Dr: Gyroscopic stability from a single bevel is technically present but practically and likely statistically irrelevant. Confirmation bias is far more likely. There is no way air pressure creates enough force on the bevels to cause a noticeable(read practical probably even measurable) difference compared to any other broadhead of the same shape/wieght with a different edge grind. It's WAY more likely that you're running into confirmation bias. I especially suspect since you don't show any steps towards removing bias.
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
It’s for sure possible. Only way to really know is to remove the human element altogether. I’m a redneck tester. I don’t think I agree with you, but your fancy words tell me you might be smarter than me 🤓
@georgewashington1621
@georgewashington1621 Жыл бұрын
try sticking something like a broadhead out a car window at 80 miles per hour and see for yourself how much air pressure there is. now think 200 miles per hour. also its not the gyroscopic moment that reduces deflection, its that deflection is spread through 360 degrees of rotation. lets take extremes so that its more obvious: when the arrow doesnt rotate and the aerodynamics pull it to the side - it deflects way off to that side. but when an arrow is pulling to the side but at the same time is rotating, its pulling to a different side every moment, thus greatly reducing the overall deflection.
@terrycalvert7812
@terrycalvert7812 Жыл бұрын
Omg I liked you a lot better when you shot mathews
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
Haha! The v3x was too much poundage for that arrow. Dialed the Hoyt down to 68lbs Mathews is at 76.5
@deanbrantley
@deanbrantley Жыл бұрын
Why not just stick with the big mechanical? You can’t argue with your own results. With such high efficient bows, high quality arrow builds for me mechanicals are working better than ever.
@brandonmcdonald6121
@brandonmcdonald6121 Жыл бұрын
I go back and forth. Should have used the biggest damn mechanical I could in Canada. I think it’ll be a thing I’ll always mess with over time. Back and forth. Heavy, light. Mechanical, fixed.
@deanbrantley
@deanbrantley Жыл бұрын
@@brandonmcdonald6121 I do the same thing. I have a drawer full of different heads. Arrows of many weights. The RIP VI with 150g Micro Hades with a TAW of 375 has beeen nothing short of amazing on pigs this year for me. Even questioned it for my elk set up.
@georgewashington1621
@georgewashington1621 Жыл бұрын
​@@deanbrantleywow, 375 grains on pigs! thats NOT ranch fairy approved (lol), what speed does it manage?
@deanbrantley
@deanbrantley Жыл бұрын
@@georgewashington1621 I’m not sure. Prime Inline 5. 70lbs, 29”dl. If I had to guess 300 or maybe alittle more. I’ve had them blow through so fast they split saplings behind them.
@jlapp
@jlapp Жыл бұрын
www.youtube.com/@1nestly This guy has done some interesting slow mo filming.
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