Yep... Mystery steel with questionable heat treatment

@@heavyweightsound I didn't really get into blade steel because I have no idea what they are really made of. 🤣

​@@appalachianknifereviews yea I get it!

Ya I wish there was a way to easily test what kind of steal it is. Cuz anybody can print m390 on some 8cr,

It's gonna cost me a lot more. I'm for sure buying some Microtech OTF and Benchmade Crooked River.

My thoughts were trying out a clone before I dropped the cash to get the real deal to see if its something I even wanted to carry. I am glad there are others like myself.

I got one of the microtech otf clones to see if I liked it and the thing is an absolute beast. No hiccups in about 2 years

@@ksowderful you are welcome.

I wish I had more of the real stuff to compare but had to use what I have on hand.

Are they worth a damn?

@@appalachianknifereviews Some of their other knives like the avatar, cougar and finnish-s are very nice i dont know very much about the mongoose.

@@Johnny9ers it's an awesome little knife. I wish it was just a tiny bit bigger.

And their already overpriced so it makes the whole thing even worse

thanks for that info. It's a great looking knife but I don't know that I would buy the real one. Mictrotech that is.

ha ha, thanks so much.

You want that goofy Kershaw? 🤣

I haven't taken mine apart but every looks like it lines up. I will take a better look at it.

The Gen 3’s still have a tiny bit of play, at least the ones we got in the shop. We got the Hera 2’s small

Thank you for telling me that. I have yet to buy my first real one and wasn't aware.

@@chrisjosekuehl I realize I didn't specify well enough in my comment. You are correct. The MT Gen 3s have very slight blade play. It's the MT Atreus that they are releasing that claims to have zero blade play. But it's yet to be released as of yet. The Hawk Deadlock is zero blade play and is already released.

I own a few Benchmade OTFs and they all have blade play. Especially the shootout.

Yeah it’s not all the gen 3 Microtechs, it’s supposed to be on the new ultra tech gen 3s that come out this month sometime.

Definitely agree the BHQ 20cv exclusive Demko is your best option. I got one in Ultem and other than it being ground off center, which was admittedly disappointing, it's still rock solid in every other way. The one auto was a fake Microtech LUDT.

I will look into that one. Thank you.

thank you

@@jarofaar8618 ill have to check it out. Thanks for the suggestion.

I thought the same thing when I bought it.

I wish I could start just looking and quit buying. lol

I think that is kind of the appeal for me. People think they are goofy and to me they are just a knife and if it ruffles someone else's feathers watching my field dress a deer or a bear with a pink knife it makes me laugh.

ha ha. We buy once, cry once. Except with real benchmade we cry every time we think about what we paid for them.

Use drill bit for ceramic. And water

Thank you.

Thank you. Only thing I had noticed was the missing red button for "fire" or rather off safe.

Thank you.

you might be right. A "custom" infidel.

Understood. I can see how the design has some blade play. That one "Benchmade" is a bit ridiculous though. The Microtechs are much better.

It's a Mouse pad by Knafs. I bought it on Amazon. amzn.to/3Ll1dPx

I have noticed colors tend to give them away.

I looked and looked and could not find the Bk19 in black. Well, not that I think of it I was only searching Amazon.

You bring up a good point about the steal and I agree. Someone else asked why i don't talk about the steel and I told them because I have no idea what it really is.

A lot of it is D2 regardless of markings. Most is heat treated poorly. I get my ad20.5 scary sharp though. One of my favorite knives and only 30$!!!!

No you don't, the only little that day that are people that know nothing about steel and heat treat, people who don't actually know quality

​@@DABinCHRISTthey sell kizer knives....

@@druidic4353 who are you taking about?, the guy said he bought them from temu,

@@druidic4353 are you taking about the Chinese, yeah, they also make we knives and others, but counterfeit knives are not even those quality, and again the only people arguing for counterfeit quality are people that don't know steel and heat treat, and actual quality, I got scanned a Spyderco knives on eBay once, looked almost identical to the real thing, but it wasn't and I knew it instantly, everything about it was cheap, and weak, and the steel was garbage and I don't think they even heat treated it, but you guys keep arguing that counterfeit knives are quality, those that know the real knives will tell you they are not

Nope. It's an actual Russian brand.

Same

I just looked and it tells me it has been discontinued. However, I have seen that then the item pop up again.

@@gasmaskcollectorreview1537 thank you.

@@appalachianknifereviews no problem

Trade?

yeah. gonna be doing that one real soon.

Based on China. Hard to do anything about it, I think.

*know

Learn to spell

agreed. I would rather they say Huang Fu or something.

Thts not true

@@eskee1 ok, name one clone that is a good knife with good steel that is the actual steel it claims to be and which has a good heat treat, and also has the same quality scales and parts as the original......... Well.....We're waiting, ok maybe that's a little hard, ok, name one knife expert here on KZfaq or anywhere else that says clones are the same or better quality than the originals, that says clones have great steel and a great heat treat and great scales and other parts but it's somehow just selling it really cheap....... No....... You can't think of any.... Oh well, I guess you will still go on thinking your right and thinking you know knives and quality, I'm curious about something, what's your favorite steel and hrc for edge retention, for strength, for corrosion resistance, and what's there optimal hrc for that given attribute, what exactly is your favorite steel and hrc of that steel and why, why does hrc matter less than most people think it does, what's the best hrc for magnacut, and what we're most companies running there magnacut hrc at first, and why was it a problem when doing the same thing with every other steel wasn't as much a problem for these companies before, why was magnacut so different in that respect, what makes magnacut truly innovative and why is it so different from all other steel, what is the Pinnacle of sharpness, what attributes does a truly sharp knife have, what angle would you run a full flat grind rex45 with thin geometry for edge retention, what angle would you run a hard use knife at, what company would you call truly innovative, what was the most innovative knife at blade show 2024, not the knife that was awarded most innovative, but the knife that was actually the most innovative, which company would you say experts think of when they think of hard use and extremely strong folding knives, what production company has tier1 heat treats, what production companies are in 2nd place, what is the strongest folding knife lock, what is the best folding knife lock for safety, that keeps your fingers away from the edge while closing, what synthetic scales would you say are true quality and have excellent strength to weight ratio, which synthetic scales would you say are not quality, what type of titanium is considered quality and which is considered a downgrade quality, what is the most innovative thing to happen to titanium knife scales in the past 5 years, or here's a really good one, why will you never, ever ever ever hear a legitimate knife expert calling a counterfeit clone quality, should I keep going, can you answer any of those extremely simple questions, because believe me they are extremely simple and I'm no expert

@@DABinCHRIST I agree with you. But some of them can be good enough users, regardless. I don`t buy clones myself, but have handeled a few, and tested them out a bit. Best one was a somewhat expensive Sebenza 21 clone. Out of all my knives i think my old AUS8 American Lawman, has the most pocket time. And then my Buck Vantage Avid 13c26, or the Maix2 in 154cm. My newest favourite is the Stretch 2 in K390. I don`t buy into the steelhype that much. If you have good geometry, HT and sharpening it`s all good for 99.9% of the population. "Right tool for the job" and blablabla. :) If i had to pick: Carbon: 80crv2. Stainless: CPM154. Toolstell: K390 . Reason: They are fairly balanced, and can be used for most types of knives. Now K390 is hardly what most people would call balanced. But for what it is, i think it is. Even with all the alloying elements (esp. Vanadium) it still has good enough thoughness, and is quite "easy" to sharpen. The patina is just a bonus feature to "make it yours." I prefer backlocks or mod. Backlocks like the Tri-Ad lock for my hiking/camping/woods knife folders. And linerlocks/framelocks for EDC stuff. In general i also prefer thin grinds, and i make most of them semi-convex. Im not a fan of lockbar inserts/balls on titanium framelocks. Hence i my last Sebenza is a 21 made in 2014. And a gen4 Hinderer XM18 3.5. Can`t speak of Magnacut since i don`t have anything in that steel. And frankly, with the whole "debacle" surrounding it, im not going to for a while... As a sidenote I`d be interested to know what you think of the ESEE 1095 HT?

Go look them up dude but just know they are cheap as hell 😂

@@alexandregraulle607 because the prices change. Constantly. All these were sub $30.

David, feel free to make a video to your standards. I had less than 400 subs when I made this video. I wasn't pandering to anyone.