I Bought a king midget That Was Torn Apart.

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Mustie1

Mustie1

3 жыл бұрын

this was offered to me cheap and could not pass it up, its a late 50s king midget micro car made in Athens, Ohio. smaller then most golf carts, lets load it up and see what we got for our money?

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@ZippoVarga
@ZippoVarga 3 жыл бұрын
It's a 1966-67, the engine is a 9hp. They are timed with the distributor like a car and they're tricky to get dialed in. Top speed was 26mph in stock form. Proving grounds in Ohio was a hill that the car must be able to climb in order to "Pass" inspection. One of our King Midget members owns the old factory in Ohio now and Paul can get you just about anything you could want or need. I've been the mechanic for two of these King Midgets and have videos on my channel that you can reference to see what is what and where things go. Also, you can email me and I can put you in touch with the ultimate King Midget Guru. Zip~
@tonyjover
@tonyjover 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one, Zip
@forthrightnight
@forthrightnight 3 жыл бұрын
Serendipity strikes again.
@stephenkissinger4434
@stephenkissinger4434 3 жыл бұрын
I thought 1966 was when they switched from the 9hp Wisconsin to the 12hp Kohler.
@ZippoVarga
@ZippoVarga 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenkissinger4434 There was a cross over period where they used both. In early 1966, the company still had a small supply of the 9hp Wisconsin engines. Also, the 12hp Kohler engines that were used weren't in high supply, so in late 1965 and early 1966, the 12hp was an optional engine to help the company deplete the Wisconsin engine inventory. Or so the story goes from the current club historian. Cheers! Zip~
@richardstone5241
@richardstone5241 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an amazing find! Company was created by two WWII Veterans in 1946 and vehicles (road legal) were manufactured until 1970. It had a 9.2 hp engine (upgraded to a 12 hp Kohler in 1966), a two speed transmission and a top speed of 40mph (unless you fell off a cliff and then you might hit 60) and estimated to get 100 mpg. They made 6,000 of these (3 models) and they originally sold for $500.00 via mail order and in kit form (you assemble). It is estimated that only 1,000 of these still exist.
@whitesapphire5865
@whitesapphire5865 3 жыл бұрын
Only 1k left - definitely needs to be restored.
@richardstone5241
@richardstone5241 3 жыл бұрын
@@whitesapphire5865 Yep! And that figure is considered to be high as no one is sure (it's an assumption) by the National Club.
@melvinjones3895
@melvinjones3895 3 жыл бұрын
the Guy that got the $400 is the happiest guy in the world right now.
@g.n.6471
@g.n.6471 3 жыл бұрын
You got that right.
@fujiuser1968
@fujiuser1968 3 жыл бұрын
Not as happy as Mustie will be when he gets it running :-)
@baronclime6423
@baronclime6423 3 жыл бұрын
Mustie will get it running but the guy should have paid Mustie $400 to take it from him lol. Seriously though, it's interesting and I am looking forward to watching the rest of this video and the others that will be made.
@bobadam7021
@bobadam7021 3 жыл бұрын
@@baronclime6423 whatever the thing was worth in scrap value. I'd say.
@frankcurley
@frankcurley 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but hey I pissed away $400 on far worse things in my life...
@roygunter3244
@roygunter3244 3 жыл бұрын
I remember as a young man seeing these in Popular Mechanics but I have never honestly seen one in person, not even sitting at some automobile show. I am 72 and have been to a lot of car shows. I want to see him get it going and driving it around.
@davidarnette327
@davidarnette327 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely restore it. Quite rare. There is a king midget car club, you should be able to find all the info you need. Awesome find!
@muskokamike127
@muskokamike127 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I posted a link above to it. First thing I'd do is contact them, tell them what you've got, see if anyone wants to buy it for parts OR to restore. If no one is interested then have at it. I'd hate to start hacking on it only to find that you're ruining something desirable. Who knows? Maybe there's someone who is crying for a working transmission and would pay $400 just for that....or someone who needs front fenders or ??
@dodgeme1986truck
@dodgeme1986truck 3 жыл бұрын
@@muskokamike127 if it was closer I'd have paid $1500 for it
@grizzlygrizzle
@grizzlygrizzle 3 жыл бұрын
And for God's sake, don't make it a rat rod. And, BTW, I don't think that the 1/4"-hardware-cloth rear grille is OEM.
@robc8468
@robc8468 3 жыл бұрын
@@muskokamike127 That would be a short uninteresting video Mustie flips a king midget for parts???? He is going to bring it back to life not ruin it, watch and learn....
@muskokamike127
@muskokamike127 3 жыл бұрын
@@robc8468 Mustie has plenty of other interesting videos, just selling it to someone ? who cares? As for watching and learning, I have learned a lot from him, and I'm on board as long as he restores it. It's too desired by collectors to do anything else.
@gtametro
@gtametro 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else talking at the screen trying to tell him where parts go?
@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge
@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge 3 жыл бұрын
Not me because I have no idea.
@whitesapphire5865
@whitesapphire5865 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@Wolfhound.
@Wolfhound. 3 жыл бұрын
was anyone else trying to tell him that it has forward reverse and neutral and that the 2nd gear he felt was flex in the linkage
@ajc7166
@ajc7166 3 жыл бұрын
when I said those clamps were for the tank he immediately said the gas tank has straps on it, But when I said the damper rod probably went the other way around he agreed.
@plantedinpr886
@plantedinpr886 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I muttered a few things. I wonder if he heard me. :D
@prescotthuidekoper658
@prescotthuidekoper658 3 жыл бұрын
Mustie1 - you take on the most eclectic, cool projects. That is why we all admire & enjoy you so much !
@LandNfan
@LandNfan 3 жыл бұрын
What a nostalgia trip! My mother bought a brand new 1957 King Midget, nearly identical to your “junk pile.” Shipped from the factory strapped down on a couple of pallets. Cut the straps, pour in some gas and drive it home from the railway express office. When I got my license in ‘62, I drove a lot of miles around Nashville in that little car. You could, with luck, get it up to 45mph...downhill, and it would make it up most hills. It was tiny. It was quirky. But it was a ton of fun and you could run all week on 3 gallons of gas. Hers was the first year that electric start was standard equipment. The doors were plywood. And the windshield wiper was manual, a bent rod through a bushing at the top of the windshield frame with your fingers being the wiper motor. The gear box is just F-N-R. There are two pulleys on the input end of the input shaft with a ratchet between them. The engine has two centrifugal clutches, the inner one having tighter springs than the outer. That body part that puzzled you is the rear deck that the engine compartment lid hinges to. There was a large, simple canvas pouch between the seat back and the upturned edge of that pieces of metal to provide the limited luggage or cargo space.
@davidcoudriet8439
@davidcoudriet8439 3 жыл бұрын
There are several who specialize in these. Everything is available for them. Briggs v-twin is a popular conversion..
@jordanlittle5391
@jordanlittle5391 3 жыл бұрын
Snowmobile engine even like a 377 would be like 30-70hp
@dsloop3907
@dsloop3907 3 жыл бұрын
He probably has one in mind, remember the twin he put on the go cart?
@bobadam7021
@bobadam7021 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordanlittle5391 I'd take that, or we could just be silly an throw in a 4 cyl motorcycle engine.
@rogersmith9808
@rogersmith9808 3 жыл бұрын
The collectors of these (and there IS quite a following) also use a lot of those Chinese Honda twin clones available at Harbor Freight. Apparently... If those are broken-in properly, they are surprisingly reliable and are a HUGE upgrade to the originals. 👍
@jordanlittle5391
@jordanlittle5391 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogersmith9808 well ya a 200 dollar 212cc with a stage 3 kit makes 20+hp
@sirsteele
@sirsteele 3 жыл бұрын
You see things on Mustie's channel you won't see anywhere else! And ending on a cliff-hanger! Reminds me of when I was a kid, and Batman and Robin were in big trouble... but you had to wait for the next installment... same bat-time, same bat-channel! Can't wait for Sunday morning!
@salvadoravila9095
@salvadoravila9095 3 жыл бұрын
Many are the comments both positive and negative, jus keep in mind how long mustie has been entertaining us. He is such a master in mechanics.
@doomprophet
@doomprophet 3 жыл бұрын
Thats not cloth, thats asbestos on the brakes!
@ianosprey7666
@ianosprey7666 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Woven asbestos. Take care.
@felinespirits
@felinespirits 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, exactly. They were referred to as "fiber faced", and the fiber was indeed asbestos.
@VeyronBD
@VeyronBD 3 жыл бұрын
Arent so dangerous when they are in drums, just make sure you soak them down right away when you open them to avoid dust coming up. Worth remembering asbestos has only been banned in the US for vehicle brakes since 2014. Always treat it like its asbestos and you'll be fine.
@TheXGamer969
@TheXGamer969 3 жыл бұрын
@@VeyronBD Don’t worry, our Cheeto in Chief is working on bringing all the asbestos Russia can dig up back to the US.
@AR1G3
@AR1G3 3 жыл бұрын
@@VeyronBD Wow didn't know that it stayed legal till '14... I'm not American, over here asbestos has been nationally banned since the mid eighties, and banned on the European level since the nineties.
@MrButtonpresser
@MrButtonpresser 3 жыл бұрын
This "DIY Kübelwagen" kit is going to be much easier to build than the Lambo.
@hotrodroadking1031
@hotrodroadking1031 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we see as we haven't seen much of the lamborghini
@fujiuser1968
@fujiuser1968 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't look like any Kubelwagen I have ever seen ;-)
@williamjones4483
@williamjones4483 3 жыл бұрын
@@fujiuser1968 Use your imagination, then you'll see it.
@fujiuser1968
@fujiuser1968 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamjones4483 even stevie wonder could tell the difference lol
@russellfisher1514
@russellfisher1514 3 жыл бұрын
Omg yes!
@Soupy1406
@Soupy1406 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when the chushman came home... We are in for a treat
@danielsweeney6742
@danielsweeney6742 3 жыл бұрын
J Campbell The Cushman was in way better shape.
@SkaterStimm
@SkaterStimm 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielsweeney6742 It was but this gives Mustie the ability to fabricate and not care.
@russellfisher1514
@russellfisher1514 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited for more of this and I am only half way through this video lol
@philerator
@philerator 3 жыл бұрын
"We're missing something" later becomes "Let's go and see what we can find in the stash."
@jshdwhite79
@jshdwhite79 3 жыл бұрын
My only goal in life is to have a "stash"
@the8bitbarn836
@the8bitbarn836 3 жыл бұрын
@@jshdwhite79 Never have enough stash. I have lost so much of my stash now I barrow stash! ;)
@jshdwhite79
@jshdwhite79 3 жыл бұрын
@@the8bitbarn836 my second goal in life is to have so much stash I can't find most of it.
@vonstroop9866
@vonstroop9866 3 жыл бұрын
@@jshdwhite79 lol
@papazahn
@papazahn 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like my sons project. It’s a former Shriners parade Jeep go-kart with a Honda motor. Using your techniques, he was able to rebuild the carb and it now fires up on the first pull. He’s currently rebuilding the body. :)
@bcgrittner
@bcgrittner 3 жыл бұрын
For sale: King Midget, basket case, basket included.
@BrucesWorldofStuff
@BrucesWorldofStuff 3 жыл бұрын
HaHaHA... Some assembly Needed! :-D LLAP
@ronaldheit196
@ronaldheit196 3 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅😅😎
@robdixson196
@robdixson196 3 жыл бұрын
A basket from a busted old freezer no less. Some how that's just to perfect. :))
@The33TIGGER33
@The33TIGGER33 3 жыл бұрын
Only missing one box of parts.
@CliffLewis28
@CliffLewis28 3 жыл бұрын
Lol!! Some assembly required.
@jebsails2837
@jebsails2837 3 жыл бұрын
One of the parts boxes had the ACME writing on it, making it a Wiley Coyote project vehicle. Not Road-runner approved. Narragansett Bay.
@daverunion2162
@daverunion2162 3 жыл бұрын
So, that mean we’re gonna see rockets attached to it? COOL!
@dgc940
@dgc940 3 жыл бұрын
Mustie Hi from Texas! All I have to say is I like the fact I can watch your videos without hearing any foul language. Thank You!
@walterlang151
@walterlang151 3 жыл бұрын
My first time of encountering these vehicles happened in Athens, Ohio. I stayed at a hotel there one night as I was passing through the area. When I awoke, they were holding a small convention of King Midget enthusiasts with a car show in the parking lot! It was quite interesting to see 20-30 of them in various colors, years, etc... It's on the maybe someday side of my bucket list...
@SirDuck9951
@SirDuck9951 3 жыл бұрын
Athens, Ohio, was the birthplace of the King Midget.
@walterlang151
@walterlang151 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirDuck9951 Yes, I found out that day, It was a great learning opportunity for me, getting to talk to owners and people who had been involved with the company. I think it was sponsored by the International King Midget Car Club...
@gordonmcmillan4709
@gordonmcmillan4709 3 жыл бұрын
This thing needs to be painted to match the Econoline and live in the back of it. Sort of an automotive spare wheel for the the Ford breaks down.
@KarelRode
@KarelRode 3 жыл бұрын
and pack a pair of roller skates in it for when that thing packs up! - "the pessimistic approach"
@gordonmcmillan4709
@gordonmcmillan4709 3 жыл бұрын
@@KarelRode Maybe one roller skate would do? No sense in spending too much.
@StevenIngram
@StevenIngram 3 жыл бұрын
Considering Mustie1, I'd imagine him having a folding motorized bike strapped to the back of the king midget. LOL :D
@icondonnied
@icondonnied 3 жыл бұрын
@@StevenIngram He has that suitcase scooter already... That would fit....
@josephtaverna1287
@josephtaverna1287 3 жыл бұрын
More like a Chevy breaking down
@rcbloke626
@rcbloke626 3 жыл бұрын
Screams for a restoration series Mustie. Got my fingers crossed to see more of this one. Weird stuff is always fun. Keep up the great vids :)
@tommypetraglia4688
@tommypetraglia4688 3 жыл бұрын
Sheeet. Settle in for about half a dozen 1 hour vids
@russellfisher1514
@russellfisher1514 3 жыл бұрын
The more odd the better!
@dominickserignese8837
@dominickserignese8837 3 жыл бұрын
Hey mustie1, my name is Dominick . I live in Connecticut. I'm a big fan of your Channel. I'm a couple years younger than you and I have the same sickness you do LOL. I have been tinkering with cars motorcycles mini bikes go karts, pretty much anything with an engine all my life. you're teaching me a lot about carburetors. I was always intimidated by them. Keep up the Great Tech. I loved the Yamaha 175 revival! I had a Suzuki 100 Enduro when I was 14 years old. The sound of that 2-stroke brought back so many memories! I wish you great success. Thank you and stay safe..
@mikedeclerck1421
@mikedeclerck1421 3 жыл бұрын
After watching this episode, I found multiple sites re: the King Midget following. Quite a group of people in the midwest that have King Midgets. 60+ owners and midgets met for a large rally in Ohio. Multiple sites/owners provide good history on the midget. These sites should be of considerable help to you in piecing together the rebuild of your bundle of "trash". VERY INTERESTING project!
@ZippoVarga
@ZippoVarga 3 жыл бұрын
I am the care taker/mechanic for two of these cool little cars here in Muncie Indiana. I've got videos of these on my channel if you want to see some finished out and modified to handle highway speeds as well as in original condition. I also have numerous parts if the owners wish to revert them back to stock which includes drive line components and engines. Cheers! Zip~
@brianknecht3216
@brianknecht3216 3 жыл бұрын
Had a King Midget when I was 10 years old. My dad licensed it and was the only chain driven car in Michigan at the time. My brother and I drove it around the neighborhood until someone called the cops on us. Recall it was painted white.
@niterockerone
@niterockerone 3 жыл бұрын
1960 , Dad bought a new one ,shipped to Michigan by rail..
@vettekid3326
@vettekid3326 3 жыл бұрын
There is actually a lot of information on line about the King Midgets with a lot of pictures. The only thing I didn't see in your parts pile was the Shriners Fez hat. Those King Midget were real popular in the 60's & 70's for Shriners parades.
@mk-jf1ux
@mk-jf1ux 3 жыл бұрын
shriners running a lot of them recently in the Bar Harbor July 4th parade.
@madal55
@madal55 3 жыл бұрын
Right. It's that sort of vehicle!!
@tomtheplummer7322
@tomtheplummer7322 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the ones that did wheelies in the parade when I was a kid.
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen or heard of these cars. I bet google are wondering why so many folks are searching for them all of a sudden. 😁
@Techman4567
@Techman4567 3 жыл бұрын
how long will it be before these cars become classic collectables? just sayin how about 55000? LOL!
@TheXGamer969
@TheXGamer969 3 жыл бұрын
Once the great AI overlords get a wind of this, it’ll be all over everyone’s Amazon, KZfaq and others suggestions.
@batterymakermarkii2654
@batterymakermarkii2654 3 жыл бұрын
OMG a King Midget! It's your moral imperative to restore that car!
@bjorn0909
@bjorn0909 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE more videos on this weird little thing! I find it strangely cool and it seems right up your alley. would be awesome as a rat rod beach buggy of sorts, but honestly whatever direction you choose to go with it turn that camera on and take us along for the ride! keep up the great content mustie
@adrianmutimer3820
@adrianmutimer3820 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Mustie! This is the project I have been waiting for. Its going to be right up there with the Meter aid!
@davescrimshaw7781
@davescrimshaw7781 3 жыл бұрын
Got this from the KM club - Dry and Orcutt introduced the Model 3 King Midget in 1957. The basic body design of this model was used through the end of production. Other significant changes included unit body construction, with the frame and all fixed body components welded together for strength, four wheel hydraulic brakes, and 9.2 horsepower. As time progressed, other improvements evolved. The Philippine mahogany doors were replaced by aluminum doors and, near the end, steel doors. The electrical system was upgraded from 6 to 12 volts in 1961. The old standby Wisconsin AENL engine was replaced by a 12 horsepower Kohler K301 engine in 1966. The clicker low speed pulley was replaced by a silent Borg-Warner one-way clutch in 1967. The brown canvas top was replaced by a vinyl covered black or white top. An optional electric windshield wiper was offered, along with a windshield washer, radio, carpeted panels, floor mats, safety belts and new paint colors: Corinthian white, Rangoon red, yellow, blue and aqua.
@Mojoman57
@Mojoman57 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen a few Mustie1 videos and this looks to be one of the more challenging ones. Can't wait to see how this turns out.
@charliemanson4808
@charliemanson4808 3 жыл бұрын
Loving this one Mustie1 I remember when you got the fork lift saying there where big plans ahead... Loving the new shop...but it was nice to get a glimpse of the original the other day. Peace Charlie 🇬🇧
@davidstrock6493
@davidstrock6493 3 жыл бұрын
MUSTIE1, I JUST FOUND OUT THESE KING MIDGETS WERE BUILT IN ATHENS, OHIO. THEY STARTED BACK IN THE '50s. THERE IS A PLACE CALLED MIDGET MOTORS LOCATED IN NORWALK, OHIO. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET PARTS THROUGH THEM.
@thomasleemullins4372
@thomasleemullins4372 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Midget Motors is around anymore.
@greensfarmland
@greensfarmland 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome find. Look forward to seeing what you do with it. Thanks for everything you have taught me.
@don1031
@don1031 3 жыл бұрын
Watching you try to piece it together makes me think of the first builder(s). Someone back in the day spent a lot of time and effort and treasure to make this thing in the first place. It would be fun learning more about them while watching you bring it back to life. One description I saw said it was "a cross between a golf cart and a lawn mower." Seems pretty good.
@willbesquared6260
@willbesquared6260 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I don’t let my buddies come over and drink beer when I’m working on my rides...cool find Mustie.
@ladamurni
@ladamurni 3 жыл бұрын
0:34 that yellow car is a Daf, I never knew they were imported into the USA. Funny little car from the: van Doorne brothers in the Netherlands. They were the inventors of the CVT (constant variable transmission) That car has that CVT wich is called Variomatic. 2 belts driven. Engine is from Renault so it should not be to hard to get parts for. It might be an interesting project for you Musti?
@persimonsen7504
@persimonsen7504 3 жыл бұрын
Had one of those DAFs. (55). Spare wheel bolted to the engine, and its preassure drove the windshield washer liquid. Loves that little, mustard coloured thing
@CaptHollister
@CaptHollister 3 жыл бұрын
It is indeed a DAF, but they were not the inventors of the CVT transmission. Zenith-Gradua motorcycles were equipped with a CVT transmission starting in 1911, but even they didn't invent it as they were in use in saw mills during the 19th century. Even if you ignore saw mills and motorcycles, DAF still weren't the first cars fitted with a CVT, that would be the 1923 Clyno.
@pyotyrprepka1875
@pyotyrprepka1875 3 жыл бұрын
I remember these a neighbor had two of them new in 1965. One for husband and one for the wife to go back and forth to town on the back roads. The largest of the Wisconsin's were 9.2HP in the sixties models. If you had more than that it would have had a 12.5HP Kohler. If you have a 10HP it may be a replacement for the original that may have been unrepairable. There is a club for these you can reach out to who might be able to help with missing parts. Good luck on the project. Hope to see it all finished soon. I will be waiting patiently. Have fun
@fredvanarnam6080
@fredvanarnam6080 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Sir, As a kid growing up in the early 1960's I saw the Midget King ad's in some of the Hot Rod or Popular Mechanics magazines. I was always interested in them, being a farm kid with no money it was always "what if"?? Then Vietnam was hot and I was called shortly after graduation. Now at 75, spending 17 years in foreign countries around the world I still have the fascination. Because of my military career with injuries, I can no longer drive. I still would love to see this. Funny, my wife is from the Philippines and not much over 5 foot, could be a perfect fit. Thanks. Love to see it completed.
@MrMichaeljab
@MrMichaeljab 3 жыл бұрын
Yours is a single speed transmission, not the two speed automatic. The two speed auto had two pulleys (one large, one smaller) and belts driving the trans. The shifter on the trans is only F-N-R. Your Wisconsin engine is a 9 HP.
@richardcline1337
@richardcline1337 3 жыл бұрын
MrMichaeljab , that cylinder head looks amazingly like the ones that used to be cast at Teledyne Continental Castings back in the early to middle 70's when they had a plant on Panama City, Florida out near the old Fanning Field airport. I've made and deburred quite a few of them until I got burned so badly I quit and found a job elsewhere.
@nunyabidness9895
@nunyabidness9895 3 жыл бұрын
That trans makes it pre-'66 per the King Midget Club....whatta thing, I've never seen one until now!
@ZippoVarga
@ZippoVarga 3 жыл бұрын
Not to contradict you MrMichaeljab, but Mustie does have the second pulley and the dual clutch on the engine IS the Two Speed clutch when coupled with the two drive axle pulleys. One pulley is just not mounted to the axle but he does have it. I work on two of these on a regular basis, maintaining them for two members of the King Midget Club and know them inside and out. Check my channel for videos on them. Zip~
@MrMichaeljab
@MrMichaeljab 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZippoVarga Of course you are correct Zippo. I only saw the one pulley that was attached to the trans and jumped to the conclusion that his had the single speed trans. I completely missed him saying that it is supposed to have two pulleys. I haven't seen one of these since the 70's, Thank you for correcting me. BTW you have a great channel.
@Hammer0165
@Hammer0165 3 жыл бұрын
Oow look at that cute little Daf, that would be a fun car to see featured on this channel. A bit of Dutch pride over in the states, can't be many of them over there.
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think there will be many ANYWHERE. Horrible little cars, was it "Variomatic", does that sound right? Were they not plastic bodies? That would help with rust certainly. 😁 Just for novelty value, it might have been a good buy but I'm sure Mustie would have looked it over at least. Who knows, he maybe towed the Midget home with the Daf.🤣
@Hammer0165
@Hammer0165 3 жыл бұрын
@@2H80vids I agree the variomatic isn't great, although at the time it was the only option to viably provide automatic transmission in a small, low powered car. A conventional automatic at the time just ate way too much power. And they do allow for excellent 0-30 accelleration. After that it's quite slow though. The body on a Daf is normal sheet metal, you're probably mixing it up with the somewhat similarly styled Trabant, which is an interesting bad car in its own right. Those are made of a cotton-resin composite, similar to the one used to make cheap toilet seats called Duroplast.
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hammer0165 Yeah, I knew Trabbies were plastic. Don't know why I thought the Daf was too; thinking about it, I've seen rusty ones so ....... 😁
@nesr8786
@nesr8786 3 жыл бұрын
That's a cool project you have D , cant wait for the follow-ups on this build Stay Safe all ...Mac
@phbrinsden
@phbrinsden 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Saving this for a relaxing lunch! Tomorrow!
@amandagardner565
@amandagardner565 3 жыл бұрын
those 2 rings may hold a generator on the rear panel. i found a pic on the doing a quick websearch on king midget images and found a pic that it looks like the same engine setup, with a belt going to the rear left hand side (from drivers position facing forward. . we never got these in Australia, so will be great to see this put together. search on "can't sleep rear-engined front drive" images, there's a yellow bodied engine bay which shows the layout nicely.
@hajow9303
@hajow9303 3 жыл бұрын
A DAF!!!!! In the USA!!!! Makes me proud to be Dutch.
@Populiervogel
@Populiervogel 3 жыл бұрын
Geinig hè.
@sjaakcobain
@sjaakcobain 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, ik zag m ook!
@Prestone44
@Prestone44 3 жыл бұрын
Ja de gele wagen een Daf 44 meest waarschijnlijk
@edwardwerick2420
@edwardwerick2420 3 жыл бұрын
Your best bet is to contact the King Midget club. Nearly every part of that car is available either new or good used. You got a screaming' deal on that thing. That model KM in running condition is worth $3000 or more. I have seen customized examples go for $11,000. If the engine is shot, let me know I have a 12HP Wisconsin which will run. As long as your crank shaft is good you can make it work. The engines in King midgets had special crank shafts which were longer to accommodate the dual clutches. I have also seen Briggs Vangard and Predator V twins adapted to these cars by using a CVT drive to replace the dual clutches. BTW the transmission is a forward-reverse only and it HANGS from the mounting bracket by the u-bolts. The guys in the KMC are a great bunch and will be happy to help you in any way they can. Please register your car with the club. They have a roster listing every car KM made and the current owner. A great find, Darryl! Congratulations!
@butler386
@butler386 3 жыл бұрын
That is definitely a basket case. But I imagine Sir Mustie will get it up and running. Thanks for sharing.
@RuneTheFirst
@RuneTheFirst 3 жыл бұрын
That turn signal switch was a common auto supply item in the 50s to add signals to cars from the 20s to the early 50s that originally came without them. Signals were options after the war for some brands. Hand signals were the norm till then.
@boathead22000
@boathead22000 3 жыл бұрын
I still use hand signals once in awhile but only one finger.
@muskokamike127
@muskokamike127 3 жыл бұрын
You got it. I remember seeing them in the 60's. For vehicles that didn't come with signals from the factory. My dad brought home a Morris Midget (or something) that had flags that flipped out of the B pillar then flashed. It was so cool.
@snorman1951
@snorman1951 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a lot of those working for Sparton, the manufacturer. Actually helped build them too in the 70's. That rubber disc is indeed the canceler. We made the horn briefly seen in a box too.
@iroffman
@iroffman 3 жыл бұрын
I remember those kits for sale in mid 60s Canadian Tire catalogues.
@milantrcka121
@milantrcka121 3 жыл бұрын
@@snorman1951 Oh dear! Sparton propaganda in 2014 was about Sparks and Whittington starting in 1900 and first product was an OOGAAH horn. That lasted into the seventies?
@Thematt11
@Thematt11 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at the paint and texture of the metal those quarter panels look like they're from a different car. Almost like the previous owner hacked out a load of rusted metal and cut the new ones to fit and never did the welding. Also, as others have mentioned, the brake liners potentially contain asbestos fiber so be bloody careful with them.
@russellfisher1514
@russellfisher1514 3 жыл бұрын
All brakes contain asbestos
@Micah561
@Micah561 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure those brakes are just straight up asbestos cloth.
@Thematt11
@Thematt11 3 жыл бұрын
@@Micah561 They possibly are although they could contain none at all. There are non asbestos alternatives to them. Assume they are, hope they aren't, treat them accordingly.
@Thematt11
@Thematt11 3 жыл бұрын
@@russellfisher1514 Not true actually. There are non asbestos alternatives which are made of rock wool and heat resistant resins and things. Brake technology evolved beyond asbestos pretty quickly because whilst it's good at not burning up, it's not the best brake material. A better statement should be "All brakes should be assumed to contain asbestos."
@gooseknack
@gooseknack 3 жыл бұрын
I once saw someone who paid $10,000 for a bare shell here in Australia. It was a shell for a Holden Monaro, HK model(1968-69 year models).. Admittedly it had been acid dipped and the rusted areas cut out and replaced and given a base coat to protect it. The particular car is a two door and very, very rare today. Moral to the story? $400 for a rolling shell with a pallet of bits to go back on it, is a bargain for something unusual. Will be very interested to see what you do with it and will enjoy watching the process!
@hdrk59
@hdrk59 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting to hear it run. Thank you for sharing .
@goodnough1
@goodnough1 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like you are missing a generator, probably what those other strap brackets are for.
@donabele1243
@donabele1243 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, and those brackets on the rear that he was thinking was for a dampener is where the generator mounts to.
@MrMichaeljab
@MrMichaeljab 3 жыл бұрын
And if I remember correctly, wasn't the generator also used as the starter motor?
@Endfloat
@Endfloat 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMichaeljab No, there's a starter under the fuel tank there. I was looking out for one myself which is how I saw it.
@danielsweeney6742
@danielsweeney6742 3 жыл бұрын
Darren I think, this one is going need every bit of ingenuity you can muster! If anyone can do it my guess would be you. You have other car projects that need to see the light as well.
@jftureson
@jftureson 3 жыл бұрын
Fenders cut.... maybe we're gonna try and put big tires on. Maybe a mud buggy. Would need a much bigger motor. Looking foward to future vids on this one!
@gregmaggielipscomb9246
@gregmaggielipscomb9246 3 жыл бұрын
4 bills is more than plenty for a carcase, Iam sure you will have some fun rehabing this rig.
@aserta
@aserta 3 жыл бұрын
For this model, the headlights go on the fenders, hence the bracket. The trunk cover isn't original, it's supposed to have a curved lip. Someone put something so water doesn't go in the engine area. And the holes on the weird puzzle piece, around the curved rim are the caps for the roof. Shame about the tires, those are original factory ones :))
@drbahb1
@drbahb1 3 жыл бұрын
"Some Assembly Required", with no Instruction Sheet.
@fairlanefivehundred
@fairlanefivehundred 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! We don’t need no stinking instruction sheet!
@heaven-is-real
@heaven-is-real 3 жыл бұрын
free for all
@honkeytonk
@honkeytonk 3 жыл бұрын
@Nicole King yep!
@born_again_torinos
@born_again_torinos 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things you have worked on. I look forward to much more of this.
@nancyschisler2940
@nancyschisler2940 3 жыл бұрын
As a kid growing up in the late 50's and early 60's my hometown was not far from Athens Ohio. My Dad drove a route truck for a towel and uniform service. He serviced the place where the King Midget was built. I was more than interested in motorized things and Dad would come home and tell me about the little plant and how neat these cars were. Being pre 16 I thought it would be the greatest thing to have one. I never did own one or see one in person until recently there was one cruising the streets of Waverly, Ohio. That was great to see my first one and I'm 66 years old. So when I saw you had one I was 12 all over again. I'll be very interested in watching the evolution of your King Midget !
@Will-dm1kt
@Will-dm1kt 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, another Mustie1 Project, just the thing for a lockdown....Stay safe everyone...
@j.cheeverloophole9029
@j.cheeverloophole9029 3 жыл бұрын
Almost 33 minutes and mustie hasn't finished it? He's slipping.....
@datadavis
@datadavis 3 жыл бұрын
Bet you next vid hes riding it around!
@thomasleemullins4372
@thomasleemullins4372 3 жыл бұрын
funny. :)
@honkeytonk
@honkeytonk 3 жыл бұрын
fantastic find mustie i cannot wait to see if the engine runs it gave me a memory of my wisconsin just like this one that i brought back home from when i was in the army cant wait until assembly starts ill be inpatient until then stay safe your friend mike from TEXAS .
@RickRose
@RickRose 3 жыл бұрын
Only Mustie1 would find a matching wheel to the rare vintage mini-car he just bought, same day, at a yard sale, for $2. Bravo.
@andyhamilton8940
@andyhamilton8940 3 жыл бұрын
The shriners might need that for a parts car.
@nynexman4464
@nynexman4464 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen enough mustie to know this is going to get rustored and not restored :P Cool project though, look forward to it running around on the road.
@mushroomhead3
@mushroomhead3 3 жыл бұрын
Who else searched Midget cars and saw all the Mustie1 comments on the videos? This guy is a legend.
@cheeto4493
@cheeto4493 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for it. Reminds me of the Meter Maid truck. That was where I discovered Mustie
@rickbrownsberger8181
@rickbrownsberger8181 3 жыл бұрын
There is a guy in Ohio that has redone 10 of them. He’s on KZfaq!
@samuelglovacz4510
@samuelglovacz4510 3 жыл бұрын
Hey brother if your going to tease us like that at the end, you could atleast wear a little lipstick... hahaha... one of those I'll give you $20 bucks just to look at it.. cant wait for the next vid! And thank you so much for sharing noggin power with us!
@ronaldcarroll2947
@ronaldcarroll2947 3 жыл бұрын
The Wisconsin is the AENLD, rated at from 3+ hp to 9 hp and features a reciprocating exhaust valve for even wear. The transmission is, as you have determined, has forward, neutral and reverse. The clutches have the low speed clutch to power up to about 25 mph when the high speed clutch over rides the low speed and can take to up to 50 mph, more or less. I had one of these back in the late 60's. Being a right rear wheel drive you had to let off the gas when turning right and step down on it for left turns. Later I had one that used the 12 hp Kohler. It could hit 65 mph but the engine sounded like it was wound way too tight at that speed. And yes, I was happy when someone "found it" in my barn and bought it. It was a fun car but my concern was any kind of collision with another vehicle would likely prove fatal.
@robertjean659
@robertjean659 3 жыл бұрын
This is going to be interesting. Looking forward to this build!
@Tuitjemobiel
@Tuitjemobiel 3 жыл бұрын
The yellow car is a Dutch one (DAF)
@garchompy_1561
@garchompy_1561 3 жыл бұрын
cant wait to see what you do with this. would be fun to see some V-twin or something put in it but might be a bit much
@insomniac2233
@insomniac2233 3 жыл бұрын
It would make a wicked golfcart! lol Something drunk people could drive around a retirement resort....or a pro class street racer! I always enjoy these videos,thanks for posting.
@nikolaslarson6891
@nikolaslarson6891 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning. You think you are looking at something hopelessly dead and it probably is for a common mortal. Then comes Mustie and suddenly the dead thing takes shape and comes back to life. Fascinating...
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, to anyone else this is just a pile of rusty scrap metal.
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage
@TylersNeighborhoodGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Chances that Mustie will get it back together and functional: 100%. Chances that the original engine will stay in place permanently: 0%.
@Cinder2008
@Cinder2008 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! I’ve toured the “Factory “ and have their sales brochures.
@tobyyork9502
@tobyyork9502 3 жыл бұрын
I remember as a kid seeing these in parades in the 70's back in Ohio. They were very cool. Looks like you have a great winter project!!!! Good Luck. Can not wait to see your vision for the car..
@pappagene
@pappagene 3 жыл бұрын
I had seen the directional switch before. My dad installed turn signals on my mothers '53 Chevy with an aftermarket kit. The wheel, like you found out, is the cancel unit and is operated by the steering wheel.
@mikeheintz6861
@mikeheintz6861 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a gas powered barbie jeep
@williba24
@williba24 3 жыл бұрын
Sand blast and prime every piece of metal before starting on the rebuild.
@ChitwoodMitwood
@ChitwoodMitwood 3 жыл бұрын
I had one of these when i was about 10 or so , drove it mostly on private road , sometime rural public road , early 60s , broke down a lot , dad had friend fix it all the time , we kids loved it , did about 35 , use to sit on front fenders with legs around the bug lights !!!
@mrdanforth3744
@mrdanforth3744 3 жыл бұрын
King Midget made in Athens Ohio from 1946 to 1970. First model was a single seater with a wooden frame. Yours is the third model, made from 1957 to 1970. Engine most likely a Wisconsin 9HP. The last few years were slightly more powerful Kohler motors. Transmission 2 speed automatic plus reverse. They made their own transmission, it had 2 belt drives with 2 centrifugal clutches, low gear clutch took hold first, when you got going fast enough the second speed took hold. Chain drive to one rear wheel. Headlights go on top of the front fenders. There is a King Midget club and a web site. I am sure you can find all the information you need to restore your Midget. Right after WW2 there were probably a dozen attempts to launch a new car company in the US. There was the Tucker, Davis, Kaiser, Frazer, Playboy, Keller, Bobbi Kar, Crosley and others. Of them all King Midget survived the longest. I find that fascinating.
@MRrwmac
@MRrwmac 3 жыл бұрын
Mustie1, That’s gonna be one heck of a build. Too bad it’s to big for little kids (real little kids like Josh).
@kidd1072
@kidd1072 3 жыл бұрын
I was praying that it was the yellow car, next to this bucket of bolts!🤦‍♂️
@tommypetraglia4688
@tommypetraglia4688 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I thought he was pranking us with the thumbnail. He's talking easy... a thousand hour built and for Mustie... make that 1 a 2
@starpuss
@starpuss 3 жыл бұрын
*GREAT FIND!!!!!* Years ago i seen one in person, But rear end was upgraded to one from a John Deere gator. and tons of Frame upgrades , they had a Vtwin on her.
@FreedomRock44
@FreedomRock44 3 жыл бұрын
This will be fun Mustie!!! Keep going on it!
@pebear
@pebear 3 жыл бұрын
You can put it back together and then sell it to the Shriners....
@steveanderson5888
@steveanderson5888 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like a poor man's Jeep 400 bucks I don't nobody that would buy that take care of mustie1 you've hit new levels
@johnstrange6799
@johnstrange6799 3 жыл бұрын
King of the Midweek! Thank you.
@AZVIDS
@AZVIDS 3 жыл бұрын
Hah, perfect cut at the end👍. Cannot wait for the next installment!
@cidercik
@cidercik 3 жыл бұрын
You know it's bad when you have to google it to find out out how it should look...
@n3glv
@n3glv 3 жыл бұрын
Are those front turn signals from a bug? It sure is a friendly little car, it waved at us (rear fender). For more pep how about a 420cc v-twin and torque converter from go power sports?
@mrmagoo916
@mrmagoo916 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward, to the rebuild.
@roxanneabbott8424
@roxanneabbott8424 3 жыл бұрын
Fun to hang out with you!!! Part 2, cant wait!
@stevem268
@stevem268 3 жыл бұрын
i would have gone for the little yellow car behind it during the intro! looks to be a DAF, built in Holland it looks to me that the engine cradle swings to allow belt tension to stay constant as the variable pulley on the engine changes diameter. maybe there's even a cable to control the swing allowing the belt to slip for a "neutral"! definetly qualifies for the world's worst car award!
@Hankie56
@Hankie56 3 жыл бұрын
Sure is a Daf!! In the fifties the inventor of the Variomatic, nowadays CVT.
@Populiervogel
@Populiervogel 3 жыл бұрын
Yep looks like a DAF 46 variomatic from the 70s, the grill is different though.
@masterfranco01
@masterfranco01 3 жыл бұрын
stevem268 agree on the daf, model 44 or 46, 44 had 2 belts, 46 was driven by 1 belt. Both had the 2 cilinder boxer engine.
@stevem268
@stevem268 3 жыл бұрын
@@masterfranco01 lol, i thought so! never see them in north america, unique transmission for sure!
@Xyleksoll
@Xyleksoll 3 жыл бұрын
I was double taking at the yellow DAF, not believing that there is one in the US...I could not believe my eyes, thank you for confirming that I am not seeing things. Did this Daf come wit the Renault engine?
@harveypyke4897
@harveypyke4897 3 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking this just might be a great little rig for a 10 - 12 year old to scoot around the neighbourhood in his/her own rat rod. Fat tires and an enlarged go cart steering setup, just a thought👍
@SirDuck9951
@SirDuck9951 3 жыл бұрын
They're surprisingly spacious. They can comfortably fit two 6ft adults with leg room to spare.
@jsimm4587
@jsimm4587 3 жыл бұрын
The Shriners used to have several of these they drove in a local parade every year . Had them all decorated up . They do help lots of children which is great .
@car2069
@car2069 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you saved this one... those are so awesome. I'd swap a small motorcycle engine into it, but whatever you do with it, I cant wait to watch it!
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