I bought the cheapest rapid trigger keyboard (so you don't have to).

I bought the cheapest rapid trigger keyboard (so you don't have to). - Redragon K617 Analog review

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@Doenstop Ай бұрын

Great video. Made me more okay with going for the wooting 80he

@Haru_no_ki 18 күн бұрын

Its 50 usd now on amazon. Even cheaper than on their site. The fact that it has the rapid trigger functionality for this price is mind blowing

@shentobento1079 Ай бұрын

HE boards are about to change drastically. You should consider taking a look at more premium customs that are adding hall effect boards, such as the zoom65v3 or the qk65v2 classic edition. Even the neo65 has a hall effect pcb planned. All of these blow wooting out of the water in terms of quality and sound.

@leizerg Ай бұрын

Im more interested in performance :) Polar 65 was supposed to be super amazing but their implementation of rapid trigger is meh. But I will keep an eye out for any high end boards 👍

@xypan5552 2 сағат бұрын

@@leizerg did you try zouya x86? how good is it

@arisvalo Ай бұрын

Can you test the Latenpow looting 68 its also a budget hall effect keyboard with an aluminum case and it sounds pretty good from what ive seen.

@thekaneallwaywin Ай бұрын

Good to know that it has a very high latency compared to other alternative. Would you be able to review the zuoya x86? It's about the same price as the redragon but at a 75% layout.

@nikita3.14 29 күн бұрын

Nice, thanks! Could you test the Zuoya x86 with RT?

@umk3mafioso Күн бұрын

Hi, Leizerg, I'm glad at least some reviewers know how to test this kind of keyboards, especially the input lag information is crucial, I mean people spend up to 300$ for a gaming kb, you gotta think they care about performance, this rapid trigger boom is made for and by gamers. Now I have a question, I happened to notice that the input lag results on redragon keyboards with RT (different models, but i believe the pcb and swithces are the same) vary from test to test (by other youtubers), there is a thai reviewer who used to use solenoid rig just like you and he now uses some device that registers the current on the usb cord of keyboard itself, excluding PC and monitor lag from the equation , with his tests redragon has only 5ms input lag when wooting has 0.8ms, and around 15ms with the solenoid test for redragon. So i was curious who's test is correct his or yours, granted 5 is more than 0.8, but it is not 30ms vs 70ms from your tests. I mean if the pcb lag data is correct, then the solenoid test should be 30 and 35 respectively. So i opened two of your videos where you slowmo the release of the button and i counted frame by frame (60 fps youtube frames i mean) the wooting, apex, nj98 and redragon results and found out that the same keyframe appears on the screen roughly at the same (KZfaq 60hz) frames after the release of the button. I dont know where this 70+ms lag came from. The only reasonable answer would be if wou slowed down your 1000fps camera's footage differently from one review to another, so 1\60 frame would result different time irl. I hope you add to your tests in the future some kind of frame counter on the screen when you record the game in slow motion, so it would be easier to count the delay by viewers themeselves, and maybe something more recognizeable within the game animation, maybe a gunshot muzzle flash or something. Sorry for the long read.

@leizerg Күн бұрын

Hi! This is all very fair points. Please remember that my methodology does include all types of delays - from the system itself, from the monitor as well as the game. And that can vary very much if for example there was some kind of system process interrupting in the background. But that’s why you do 10-20 tests to get a good average. I think testing just the signal going through the cable is much more accurate but it’s also very „synthetic”. It doesn’t apply in any way to real world scenario - I hope you understand what I’m trying to say. Plus I’m not sure what the current on the cord is - it might be the button press or it might be something else, RGB or whatever. But I’m not an electrical engineer to be 100% sure whether this is true or not. Using visual method at least guarantees you can see the result. I’m also not sure how big of an impractical drivers have on the whole system latency, it might be that what’s causing the massive delay. I think in the end it’s important to stick to the same method to be consistent. I used 1000fps camera but the footage is saved as 50fps so it’s already slowed down 20x. After you put it to resolve you basically count 1 frames = 1 ms. Thanks for the input I’ll try to improve me testing process and maybe use Wooting each time as a reference. Hopefully this will help a bit.

@umk3mafioso Күн бұрын

@@leizerg thanks for the answer, i think too the solenoid test is perfectly good, as long as the solenoid is consistent. I agree that drivers, screen capture or other apps can affect the results. It is good to know the slowmotion parts are all 1000 to 50 because that makes my frame counting to be relevant, i mean i want redragon to be not so bad 😀 because it is cheap enough to try RT keyboard without breaking a bank. If you are interested i'll explain what i counted: the frame when i see the switch to pop up/release it is frame#1,then i frame advance on youtube's in-browser player with >, so with all of those keyboards i advanced to about 50th frame and the image of the HUD overlaping the gun was pretty much identical, +-5frame advances difference, i recon 5 frames of slowed down footage won't cover extra 40 ms, as you said it would be around 5ms, which corelates perfectly with reviewer's results with electronic device that i was mentioning before. So maybe there was an error in your results, otherwise idk why frame counting gave me identical results between thos kbs. Anyway, best regards

@silentov4081 9 күн бұрын

Nice, thanks! Could you test the ATTAK SHARK K85 ? plsss

@Speedy94uru Ай бұрын

thx for the video!

@romangritsak Ай бұрын

Hi! Love the video! I noticed that you have a lot of great content on your channel. My recommendation is to add more text to thumbnails to make them more catchy. The style is already great (I mean colors and overall positioning), but something more "clickbaity" on the thumbnails could add more viewers to your channel. Cheers!

@leizerg Ай бұрын

Thanks for the hint! I’ll try that

@mohamedking777 24 күн бұрын

I have glorious gmmk 1 compact and the windows key not working why

@DennisLaurence-sg8um 17 күн бұрын

I hope you can test VXE ATK75

@aarnotamio5974 Ай бұрын

Love the Vid! could you do a video on the new Wooting 80he By any chance?

@leizerg Ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s out yet right?

@aarnotamio5974 Ай бұрын

@@leizerg it Is and if you order now you get free switches and A founders Edition case on it 👍

@halleffectcontroller 21 күн бұрын

@@aarnotamio5974 but they will be shipping in July/August the first orders, so still some time away

@aarnotamio5974 21 күн бұрын

@@halleffectcontroller oh i didnt know. Thanks for the info!

@Bizyze Ай бұрын

Oh boy, after your advice, I actually bought both wooting and the razer huntsman v3 pro tkl. Right now I am writting from the huntsman, its quiter than my huntsman mini clicky version, the quality and aluminium is amazing plus its pretty heavy (which I like), the feeling of the keys feel premium to me, and I also have media buttons and arrows, I am soooo looking forward to see what difference the wooting can make, this razer is alreadyt amazing lol, idk if I will give back the wooting when it comes (in 3 weeks) or the razer. What do you think are going to be the main differences? :D PS: The wrists rest is horible with my mousepad, the rest is amazing! (also the RGB is amazing compared to my last huntsman mini) - this is also probably the first liniar switches for me after my roccat vulcan tkl but they are sooo smooth to click on, but also clicky in a way

@leizerg Ай бұрын

Yeah Razer stepped it up a notch in the recent releases. I think the main differences you will see in sound and stabilizer feel. The Razer is much more useful in everyday scenarios since it’s Tkl and has arrows. In performance there is close to no difference from what I’ve tested. But for Wooting I believe you can replace the switches while Razer has the soldered in so you need to return the keyboard to them if anything fails. And after warranty you’re on your own. But the new optical switches are amazing really like them.

@Bizyze Ай бұрын

@@leizergi am really wondering the new tkl wooting, how good will it be in terms of quality and everything, what do you think?

@leizerg Ай бұрын

@Bizyze I already ordered it for tests, we’ll see :) I hope it puts the bar even higher

@ahyanisbott5616 4 күн бұрын

Can you please test the atk 68

@Bizyze Ай бұрын

What do you think are the main differences between a costumer that buys the wooting 60e and the razer huntsman v3 pro one?

@leizerg Ай бұрын

Someone who buys Wooting buys with his head (good value for the money) and someone buying Razer buys with his heart (brand loyalty, ecosystem etc.). Both are great keyboards with amazing performance but Wooting has better build quality and more reasonable price.

@Bizyze Ай бұрын

For me the wothing is 193euros *but the shipping is around 10 euros and Razer is 197 euros (shippment included). Which one would you suggest is a better overall deal?@@leizerg

@Bizyze Ай бұрын

193 for the wooting board + 10 euro shippment + 30 euro for the wrist = 233euro And RAZER Huntsman V3 Pro TKL, Analog Optical Switches Gen-2 (shipment included and ofc wrists rest included) = 197euros Which one is a more overall better deal? @leizerg@@leizerg

@kurukiddo5759 16 сағат бұрын

I have gateron browns and cherry MX switches, will there be an advantage switching to this? Mostly FPS games. Thank you!

@leizerg 8 сағат бұрын

I would say yes. Rapid trigger is great for fps.

@vinbladi. Ай бұрын

Hey, is the wooting truly 0.15mm or is that just a lie, also theres another keyboard called the drunkdeer and its pretty good was wondering if youre gonna review it anytime

@leizerg Ай бұрын

It’s on my channel already. Wooting is 0.15 and very precise. DrunkDeer I can recommend it’s good for the price.

@vinbladi. Ай бұрын

@@leizerg Oh okay thanks, so far would you prefer the wooting or the huntsman v3 pro, ignoring the layout

@leizerg Ай бұрын

@@vinbladi. Wooting

@mehanyt1 Ай бұрын

but what are the differences between a normal mechanical keyboard and this?

@leizerg Ай бұрын

Normal mechanical keyboard has a fixed actuation point. Analog mechanical keyboard allows you to change that plus it can reset as soon as you release the button (0.1mm travel) and activate again after you start pressing it (0.1mm) regardless of set activation point.

@prussomc Ай бұрын

Hey I just got this keyboard and I downloaded a software along with it from the redragon website, however the software only showed macro and lighting settings, could you link the software shown in this video?

@leizerg Ай бұрын

cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2695/9506/files/REDRAGON_K617_M.zip?v=1706769714

@shockat5070 26 күн бұрын

bro... dont tell me you got the mechanical switch version😢

@prussomc 26 күн бұрын

@@shockat5070 i did LMAO

@shockat5070 26 күн бұрын

@@prussomc yeah... when i was searching on aliexpress for mine the price was so low i instantly knew something was wrong, and rapid trigger was nowhere to be found on its page, after 3 days of searching aliexpress gave me discount for the already cheapest option with actual magnetic switches and i ordered it yesterday for like $50(no more tax or shipping cost)

@ilovedurians02 Күн бұрын

can you review AE68 Everglide

@leizerg Күн бұрын

I’ll put it on my list

@yourshotsalwaysmiss Ай бұрын

Nice Hipyo Tech style video title 😂

@leizerg Ай бұрын

🤫

@ducnguyen-wb8ik Ай бұрын

Should I go for the akko mod007b He pc bro

@leizerg Ай бұрын

Akko is pretty good

@AndreiStancu-qc1yz Ай бұрын

Ok look, I have two deals, please help me to see the differences here. 193euros for the wooting board + 10 euro shippment + 30 euro for the wrist = 233euro And RAZER Huntsman V3 Pro TKL, Analog Optical Switches Gen-2 = 197EUROS (shipment included and ofc wrists rest included). Which one is a more overall better deal? What are the biggest differences that I get from the extra cash on wooting board?

@leizerg Ай бұрын

hmm... tough choice. If you want better quality - pick Wooting (imo it's better). If you want to save some money - get the Razer, it's still a great keyboard but the feeling is in my opinion worse than wooting. if you have anything else from Razer (mouse, headphones etc.) go with Razer for the app integration.

@AndreiStancu-qc1yz Ай бұрын

I believe top 3 rapid trigger gaming keyboards right now that are high end are 1.wooting 2.razer 3.probably steelseries..? Would you agree?@@leizerg

@leizerg Ай бұрын

@@AndreiStancu-qc1yz SteelSeries has some issues with their switches sometimes. But yeah o think it’s one of the more popular ones. You should also add DrunkDeer there. Good value.

@chunk3875 Ай бұрын

so would this keyboard be good for games like valorant and csgo?

@leizerg Ай бұрын

Yes but it’s pretty high delay. At least the price is low.

@shockat5070 Ай бұрын

wow 77ms higher delay is crazy wtf

@BuBull Ай бұрын

Is it still better than most mechanical keyboards that dont have HE ?

@leizerg Ай бұрын

Yes

@BuBull Ай бұрын

@@leizerg So its still a great valure for it's price, thank you

@fraud523 Ай бұрын

there's an even cheaper one called HUO JI E-YOOSO 60% Mechanical Gaming Keyboard

@leizerg Ай бұрын

It’s analog too?

@fraud523 Ай бұрын

@@leizerg prob not

@glarhd Ай бұрын

reapid?

@leizerg Ай бұрын

Thx!

@glarhd Ай бұрын

@@leizerg 👍🏿

@MaybeTrex Ай бұрын

The keyboard sound is just 🤮

@leizerg Ай бұрын

Its 65$, cant expect much :) But yeah its a bad sounding keyboard.

@H313AT Ай бұрын

as owner of one and have been using it for 1 year 3 months, and recently mod it 2 months ago, I don't want to go back to stock K617 without tape & foam, (didn't have enough willpower to start lubing though 😅)